Re: Reassurance

[Guest guest]

Greetings all,

I could just use a reassuring word or two . . . despite normal thyroid

hormones, I'm still having some annoying problems that seem to anecdotally

be related to Graves: hard, swollen lymph nodes (some I've had for over a

year and a couple are new) and another ovarian cyst! I have an appointment

with my m.d. to check it out in two weeks, but the Chinese medical doctor

I'm seeing assures me taht the cyst (which is exactly in teh same location

as the old one) is undoubtedly part of the endocrine abnormalities, as can

be the swollen lymph nodes.

If I'm remembering correctly from teh NGDF BB, these problems do seem to

crop up frequently in Graves patients. Anybody with them? I'm putting

castor oil/ginger hot compresses for an hour nightly on the cysts.

Thanks,

somewhat of a paranoid wreck about my health,

[Guest guest]

,

I had never heard anything about having swollen lymph nodes in graves'

patients. However, I know that would explain mine!! The one

or two that I've noticed are directly under my jaw, near my ears.

Tina:)

B wrote:

Greetings all,

I could just use a reassuring word or two . . . despite normal thyroid

hormones, I'm still having some annoying problems that seem to anecdotally

be related to Graves: hard, swollen lymph nodes (some I've had

for over a

year and a couple are new) and another ovarian cyst! I have an

appointment

with my m.d. to check it out in two weeks, but the Chinese medical

doctor

I'm seeing assures me taht the cyst (which is exactly in teh same location

as the old one) is undoubtedly part of the endocrine abnormalities,

as can

be the swollen lymph nodes.

If I'm remembering correctly from teh NGDF BB, these problems do seem

to

crop up frequently in Graves patients. Anybody with them?

I'm putting

castor oil/ginger hot compresses for an hour nightly on the cysts.

Thanks,

somewhat of a paranoid wreck about my health,

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B wrote:

>Greetings all,

>

>I could just use a reassuring word or two . . . despite normal

>thyroid

>hormones, I'm still having some annoying problems that seem to

>anecdotally

>be related to Graves: hard, swollen lymph nodes (some I've had

>for over a

>year and a couple are new) and another ovarian cyst! I have an

>appointment

>with my m.d. to check it out in two weeks, but the Chinese

>medical doctor

>I'm seeing assures me taht the cyst (which is exactly in teh same

>location

>as the old one) is undoubtedly part of the endocrine

>abnormalities, as can

>be the swollen lymph nodes.

>

>If I'm remembering correctly from teh NGDF BB, these problems do

>seem to

>crop up frequently in Graves patients. Anybody with them? I'm

>putting

>castor oil/ginger hot compresses for an hour nightly on the

>cysts.

>

>Thanks,

>

>somewhat of a paranoid wreck about my health,

>

>

>

>

>

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>Hi ,

Swollen lymph glands, enlarged spleens, and enlarged thymuses are all

seen in GD and have to do with the autoreactive process. your immune

system cells are still busier than usual despite your normal thyroid

levels. As for the cysts, what does your TCM practitioner say or are you

still having language difficulties? From what I've read about the stages

of disease in TCM and sankapu, you're bound to see other phases of the

disease as you go through the healing process. I had a cervical cyst

(benign) and lots of people spoke of ovarian cysts. There are also

ovarian autoantibodies related to GD that might contribute to this.

I'll do some more research on the ovarian connection, but if I were you,

I'd give some thought to stress reduction.

In your Herculean efforts to finish your dissertation, teach and care for

the kids, while worrying about the lumps and bumps, you may be

exhausting the immune suppressor cells which ordinarily keep weirdo cell

from growing. Remember your old stand by, lemon balm, and don't forget

how you felt your goiter shrink during after a yoga class that one time.

The ginger and oil should help, and so will some cleansing breaths and

a eucalyptus scented bath and taking time out for you. Keep well, and

I'll e-mail you anything I find. No doubt I'll be blaming hormonal

disruptors.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Trust in your chinese doctor - given the ovaries are part of the endocrine

system, perhaps it is just your body rebalancing itself after the excesses

of the hyperT?

Good luck and keep us posted,

Jules

Re: Reassurance

> Greetings all,

>

> I could just use a reassuring word or two . . . despite normal thyroid

> hormones, I'm still having some annoying problems that seem to anecdotally

> be related to Graves: hard, swollen lymph nodes (some I've had for over a

> year and a couple are new) and another ovarian cyst! I have an

appointment

> with my m.d. to check it out in two weeks, but the Chinese medical doctor

> I'm seeing assures me taht the cyst (which is exactly in teh same location

> as the old one) is undoubtedly part of the endocrine abnormalities, as can

> be the swollen lymph nodes.

>

> If I'm remembering correctly from teh NGDF BB, these problems do seem to

> crop up frequently in Graves patients. Anybody with them? I'm putting

> castor oil/ginger hot compresses for an hour nightly on the cysts.

>

> Thanks,

>

> somewhat of a paranoid wreck about my health,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Elaine!

The TCM says that the cysts are undoubtedly part of Graves, she thinks of

the disease as a whole endocrine issue. . . I do think it's stress. I

haven't been going regularly to yoga or practicing daily (just teaching

yoga, feeling somewhat hypocritical!) and I even forget to take my herbs

some days. I suppose I'm going to have to return to that focus. It's been

hard learning how to work very hard under pressure while staying sane and

healtlhy!!!! That hasn't been my route in the past. During this time of

writing the dissertation, I've been thinking that I need to learn how to

work differently (instead of churning myself up into a frantic mess, not

sleeping etc). I guess my body is starting to tell me I better get with

it.

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> >Hi ,

> Swollen lymph glands, enlarged spleens, and enlarged thymuses are all

> seen in GD and have to do with the autoreactive process. your immune

> system cells are still busier than usual despite your normal thyroid

> levels. As for the cysts, what does your TCM practitioner say or are you

> still having language difficulties? From what I've read about the stages

> of disease in TCM and sankapu, you're bound to see other phases of the

> disease as you go through the healing process. I had a cervical cyst

> (benign) and lots of people spoke of ovarian cysts. There are also

> ovarian autoantibodies related to GD that might contribute to this.

> I'll do some more research on the ovarian connection, but if I were you,

> I'd give some thought to stress reduction.

>

> In your Herculean efforts to finish your dissertation, teach and care for

> the kids, while worrying about the lumps and bumps, you may be

> exhausting the immune suppressor cells which ordinarily keep weirdo cell

> from growing. Remember your old stand by, lemon balm, and don't forget

> how you felt your goiter shrink during after a yoga class that one time.

> The ginger and oil should help, and so will some cleansing breaths and

> a eucalyptus scented bath and taking time out for you. Keep well, and

> I'll e-mail you anything I find. No doubt I'll be blaming hormonal

> disruptors.

> >

>

>

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> ,

> I had never heard anything about having swollen lymph nodes in graves'

> patients. However, I know that would explain mine!! The one or two that I've

> noticed are directly under my jaw, near my ears.

When I was a kid our family doctor told my mother that he wanted to remove the

lymph nodes in my neck because they were larger than normal. There was nothing

wrong with them, he just thought they were big. She said no.

Me.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,

Welcome to our group!

> Week 4, however, saw a

> reoccurrence of both simultaneously. I've spoken to my nutritionist

> about this who says that it could be an example of a 'healing

> crisis', and having read the Healing crisis article on this site I

> understand the premise.

I would agree with your nutritionist on this...healing symtpoms come

and go....your exzema and acne will likely go away and then return

again as you continue on the diet and supplements. I don't know if

you're treating your skin topically with anything but I suggest you

rub some coconut oil on it....coconut oil will help your skin to

heal....just a warning tho...coconut oil will also cause a helaing

reaction so it could increase the skin symptoms making them look worse

before they get better....but they will get better!

> Any thoughts - and hopefully reassurance that I am heading in the

> right direction - would be appreciated.

you ARE heading in the right direction, Mike....one thing I have

learned through this is that patience is definitely required!

)

best of luck,

jackie

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group Mike!

>

> Hi all, I'm new to the group, although I did register a while ago

> and have browsed intermittently.

>

> I've been working with a nutritionist for the last 4+ weeks on an

> anti-candida programme. This has included adopting the anti-candida

> diet and beginning a programme of various probiotic and liver

> cleansing supplements etc., all of which mirror the information in

> the How to overcome Candida article on this site.

>

> The main problems that I want to overcome are facial eczema and

acne > which I've never been able to shake off, general allergies,

and some > digestive difficulties i.e. excess bloating and gas. I

decided to > get help from a nutritionist in order to approach

Candida > effectively, as the amount of information out there can be

kind of > intimidating when you begin dealing with the condition.

>

> Anyway, to my question! I know it is early days in my programme, but

> for the first 3 weeks I saw some real improvement in my skin, in

> that both the eczema and the acne cleared up. Week 4, however, saw

a > reoccurrence of both simultaneously. I've spoken to my

nutritionist about this who says that it could be an example of

a 'healing crisis', and having read the Healing crisis article on

this site I understand the premise. I just basically wanted some

reassurance, if possible, from experienced members that this is

actually likely to be what is happening?

==>Like Jackie, I agree with your nutritionist. According to

Hering's Law of Cures during natural healing your dody goes backwards

through every single symptom, disease, illness, or injury it has

experienced in the past. It is like peeling off layers of an onion,

where the body breaks down and then rebuilds. As the body gets more

of the nutrients it needs to do its job it will re-experience past

symptoms, etc. - it's not the " real thing " , but more like a " copy of

it " or a re-experience. Do not get discourged. We had a member a

few months ago who went off cortisone treatments for his eczema that

he had been on for 12 years. He did the candida program and cured

his ezcema. But it does take time and patience.

==>Do remember that the body externalizes healing to the skin to

protect vital inner organs. So skin problems is not a bad thing. It

means your body is fighting hard to heal.

>

> My diet has remained consistent during this 4 week period, the only

> thing i have noticed however is that this flare of eczema and acne

> has occurred at the same time when my bowel movements have become

> less frequent - is there likely to be a connection?

==>I've never heard of that kind of connection. Maybe re-check your

diet against what is recommended in my article. Your nutritionist

may be good, but may have some things incorrect about foods and diet,

which is the most important aspect to curing candida.

>

> I will be seeing my nutritionist again in 6 weeks, to see what

> progress I make in the time until then. She told me to take a

> digestive enzyme to help my digestion, and I will be starting on

the > anti-fungal element of the programme as soon as the product

> (Candigone - I had to order it mail-order) arrives.

>

> Any thoughts - and hopefully reassurance that I am heading in the

> right direction - would be appreciated.

==>I do not recommend cleanses, because they are often too harsh and

complicated so one cannot know what ingredient is causing a problem.

Also when starting on anything new you need to start at a low dose

and gradually increase it over time to allow your body to adjust and

utilize it in its own way. The diet I recommend cleanses the body

over a longer period of time, in addition enemas, which are less

harsh than cleanses. A coffee enemas is excellent for helping the

liver and adrenals detoxify - see our Enema Folder.

==>Do ensure you add the lemon juice and ocean sea salt drink to get

minerals needed and the lemon helps detoxification and both

ingredients aid digestion. See our Digestion folder for more info on

it.

>

The best in health,

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to say thanks to Bee and Jackie for their replies, which

did help. The eczema flare subsided within a couple of days of

posting my message... but then an acne flare occurred, of the type I

haven't had in a year, leaving me with 3 enormous spots on my face.

I was a bit frustrated as I was due to go visit my family for the

holidays, and had hoped that my skin would have shown more

improvement so everyone could have seen how my anti-candida

programme was working. 2.5 weeks later and these spots are still

there, though subsiding gradually. Back to work tomorrow too. Ah

well!

Jackie - I haven't tried coconut oil on my face. I have tried Jojoba

oil, and though it is an excellent moisturiser and skin softerner, I

did start breaking out in spots, so for the time being I have put it

to one side. I use EMU oil sparingly on my face now, which seems to

suit my skin well. If ever I get problems with this too, I will give

coconut oil a try.

Bee - Checking through the Candida diet recommended on this site and

the information my nutritionist gave me, the main difference is that

she says grains such as oats and brown rice are okay - especially as

I am quite thin already and she doesn't want me to lose weight on

this diet (and neither do I!). I tend to have a gluten-free muesli

in the morning and oatcakes with humous as a mid-afternoon snack -

the rest of my diet is pure veg and meat... is this the equivalent

of taking one step forward and two steps back? I've been doing the

diet (well, I call it more of a programme than a diet) since mid

november now. I do feel my skin is improving gradually, and am

anticipating it will probably take me up to 6 months before I really

start to see and feel the benefits of my 'hard work'.

I have to say, I love the concept of " eating my way to good health " .

I don't find sticking to the diet hard at all, and I've even

developed a healthy interest in cooking, which previously I hated.

Who would have thought! :-)

thanks, Mike

> >

> > Hi all, I'm new to the group, although I did register a while

ago

> > and have browsed intermittently.

> >

> > I've been working with a nutritionist for the last 4+ weeks on

an

> > anti-candida programme. This has included adopting the anti-

candida

> > diet and beginning a programme of various probiotic and liver

> > cleansing supplements etc., all of which mirror the information

in

> > the How to overcome Candida article on this site.

> >

> > The main problems that I want to overcome are facial eczema and

> acne > which I've never been able to shake off, general allergies,

> and some > digestive difficulties i.e. excess bloating and gas. I

> decided to > get help from a nutritionist in order to approach

> Candida > effectively, as the amount of information out there can

be

> kind of > intimidating when you begin dealing with the condition.

> >

> > Anyway, to my question! I know it is early days in my programme,

but

> > for the first 3 weeks I saw some real improvement in my skin, in

> > that both the eczema and the acne cleared up. Week 4, however,

saw

> a > reoccurrence of both simultaneously. I've spoken to my

> nutritionist about this who says that it could be an example of

> a 'healing crisis', and having read the Healing crisis article on

> this site I understand the premise. I just basically wanted some

> reassurance, if possible, from experienced members that this is

> actually likely to be what is happening?

>

> ==>Like Jackie, I agree with your nutritionist. According to

> Hering's Law of Cures during natural healing your dody goes

backwards

> through every single symptom, disease, illness, or injury it has

> experienced in the past. It is like peeling off layers of an

onion,

> where the body breaks down and then rebuilds. As the body gets

more

> of the nutrients it needs to do its job it will re-experience past

> symptoms, etc. - it's not the " real thing " , but more like a " copy

of

> it " or a re-experience. Do not get discourged. We had a member a

> few months ago who went off cortisone treatments for his eczema

that

> he had been on for 12 years. He did the candida program and cured

> his ezcema. But it does take time and patience.

>

> ==>Do remember that the body externalizes healing to the skin to

> protect vital inner organs. So skin problems is not a bad thing.

It

> means your body is fighting hard to heal.

> >

> > My diet has remained consistent during this 4 week period, the

only

> > thing i have noticed however is that this flare of eczema and

acne

> > has occurred at the same time when my bowel movements have

become

> > less frequent - is there likely to be a connection?

>

> ==>I've never heard of that kind of connection. Maybe re-check

your

> diet against what is recommended in my article. Your nutritionist

> may be good, but may have some things incorrect about foods and

diet,

> which is the most important aspect to curing candida.

> >

> > I will be seeing my nutritionist again in 6 weeks, to see what

> > progress I make in the time until then. She told me to take a

> > digestive enzyme to help my digestion, and I will be starting on

> the > anti-fungal element of the programme as soon as the product

> > (Candigone - I had to order it mail-order) arrives.

> >

> > Any thoughts - and hopefully reassurance that I am heading in

the

> > right direction - would be appreciated.

>

> ==>I do not recommend cleanses, because they are often too harsh

and

> complicated so one cannot know what ingredient is causing a

problem.

> Also when starting on anything new you need to start at a low dose

> and gradually increase it over time to allow your body to adjust

and

> utilize it in its own way. The diet I recommend cleanses the body

> over a longer period of time, in addition enemas, which are less

> harsh than cleanses. A coffee enemas is excellent for helping the

> liver and adrenals detoxify - see our Enema Folder.

>

> ==>Do ensure you add the lemon juice and ocean sea salt drink to

get

> minerals needed and the lemon helps detoxification and both

> ingredients aid digestion. See our Digestion folder for more info

on

> it.

> >

> The best in health,

> Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- mike_oconnor33 <mike_oconnor33@...> wrote:

> she says grains such as oats and brown rice are okay

> - especially as

> I am quite thin already and she doesn't want me to

> lose weight on

> this diet (and neither do I!). I tend to have a

> gluten-free muesli

> in the morning and oatcakes with humous as a

> mid-afternoon snack -

> the rest of my diet is pure veg and meat... is this

> the equivalent

It seems to me like if you are at a good weight for

your body you won't lose weight. Also with all the

great meat in the diet, you might put on muscle. I've

known people that followed an anti-candida diet to

lose weight and cure their candida for 10+ years

straight.

They did lose weight until they hit their ideal weight

and then the weight loss stopped, so I wouldn't worry

about it. Just make sure you have adequate protein,

fat and calories and vitamins and minerals.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Thanks Debby. My weight and BMI are both fine for my height and age,

I'm just one of those people who never puts on weight as my

metabolism is very quick. I'm absolutely fine with my weight and it

isn't an issue for me in the slightest - but saying that, I would

hate to LOSE weight so I am happy to deviate slighty from a 100%

pure Candida diet by including some slow-buring carbs such as

oats... provided that's not cancelling out the effects of the rest

of my Candida diet and the effects of the supplements I am taking...

> > she says grains such as oats and brown rice are okay

> > - especially as

> > I am quite thin already and she doesn't want me to

> > lose weight on

> > this diet (and neither do I!). I tend to have a

> > gluten-free muesli

> > in the morning and oatcakes with humous as a

> > mid-afternoon snack -

> > the rest of my diet is pure veg and meat... is this

> > the equivalent

>

> It seems to me like if you are at a good weight for

> your body you won't lose weight. Also with all the

> great meat in the diet, you might put on muscle. I've

> known people that followed an anti-candida diet to

> lose weight and cure their candida for 10+ years

> straight.

>

> They did lose weight until they hit their ideal weight

> and then the weight loss stopped, so I wouldn't worry

> about it. Just make sure you have adequate protein,

> fat and calories and vitamins and minerals.

>

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

>

>

>

> Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

> http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Just wanted to say thanks to Bee and Jackie for their replies,

which did help. The eczema flare subsided within a couple of days of

> posting my message...

==>You are very welcome for the help, always! That's excellent news

about your eczema Mike!

but then an acne flare occurred, of the type I haven't had in a

year, leaving me with 3 enormous spots on my face. I was a bit

frustrated as I was due to go visit my family for the

> holidays, and had hoped that my skin would have shown more

> improvement so everyone could have seen how my anti-candida

> programme was working. 2.5 weeks later and these spots are still

> there, though subsiding gradually. Back to work tomorrow too. Ah

> well!

==>I understand how you felt about visiting your family and having

outward evidence of your new found health.

> Jackie - I haven't tried coconut oil on my face. I have tried

Jojoba oil, and though it is an excellent moisturiser and skin

softerner, I > did start breaking out in spots, so for the time being

I have put it> to one side. I use EMU oil sparingly on my face now,

which seems to > suit my skin well. If ever I get problems with this

too, I will give coconut oil a try.

==>I use coconut oil all over my body, still. I use it as a

moisturizer on my face and swab it into my ears too. It's wonderful.

>

> Bee - Checking through the Candida diet recommended on this site

and > the information my nutritionist gave me, the main difference is

that> she says grains such as oats and brown rice are okay -

especially as I am quite thin already and she doesn't want me to

lose weight on this diet (and neither do I!). I tend to have a

gluten-free muesli in the morning and oatcakes with humous as a mid-

afternoon snack - the rest of my diet is pure veg and meat... is this

the equivalent of taking one step forward and two steps back? I've

been doing the diet (well, I call it more of a programme than a diet)

since mid november now.

==>I lost tremendous weight on the candida program; at first it was 1

lb. per day, then 2 lbs. and then 3 lbs. per day. I was skin and

bones. I stopped my weight from plunging by eating a buckwheat cake

that my mother made for me; unfortunately I have not been able to

find the recipe. Oats however are gluten containing. Brown rice,

buckwheat, millet & quinoa are non-gluten grains, but they all need

to be soaked properly to remove phytates which block minerals

absorption. So, yes, brown rice is okay if you keep it to a minimum -

preferably 1/4 cup per day, but you might do okay on more if the

rest of your diet is very strict. It is best if you always eat them

along with good meats and fats, and not alone.

I do feel my skin is improving gradually, and am anticipating it

will probably take me up to 6 months before I really start to see and

feel the benefits of my 'hard work'.

==>That's fabulous your skin is improving!

>

> I have to say, I love the concept of " eating my way to good

health " . I don't find sticking to the diet hard at all, and I've even

> developed a healthy interest in cooking, which previously I hated.

> Who would have thought! :-)

==>Eating your way to good health makes the most sense, doesn't it?

Food is medicine! Good for you on developing a healthy interest in

cooking. That's a real " take charge " attitude!

Lotsa hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

--- mike_oconnor33 <mike_oconnor33@...> wrote:

> Thanks Debby. My weight and BMI are both fine for my

> height and age,

> I'm just one of those people who never puts on

> weight as my

> metabolism is very quick. I'm absolutely fine with

> my weight and it

> isn't an issue for me in the slightest - but saying

> that, I would

> hate to LOSE weight so I am happy to deviate slighty

> from a 100%

> pure Candida diet by including some slow-buring

> carbs such as

> oats... provided that's not cancelling out the

> effects of the rest

> of my Candida diet and the effects of the

> supplements I am taking...

That's the thing that I am saying, is that it seems

you are cancelling out the effects of your candida

diet because you are giving the candida too many carbs

to feed on. I think this is unnecessary because you

shouldn't lose weight - you are probably worrying

about losing weight for nothing.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Well, the weight issue is secondary to me (though still something I

want to bear in mind) - I'm more interested in keeping to a diet

that doesn't feed Candida. As Bee has explained in a previous post,

as well as being high in carbs, oats are also a gluten grain, and I

know from reading the files that gluten grains feed candida. So it

looks like for this reason alone, I'm going to stop eating oats for

now. I'm going to stick to my gluten-free muesli for breakfast

though - there are no oats in this, the ingredients are brown rice

flakes, millet flakes, soya flakes, buckwheat, sunflower seeds,

chopped dates, hazelnuts, flaked almonds, cashew pieces in variable

proportions.

I'm fine with losing the oats... only now I need suggestions please

on what to have as a mid-afternoon snack with my humous dip! :-)

Have to say, I'm not totally convinced that people in general would

stop losing weight on a Candida diet once their ideal weight is

reached... but hopefully it isn't something I will have to deal

with.

>

> > Thanks Debby. My weight and BMI are both fine for my

> > height and age,

> > I'm just one of those people who never puts on

> > weight as my

> > metabolism is very quick. I'm absolutely fine with

> > my weight and it

> > isn't an issue for me in the slightest - but saying

> > that, I would

> > hate to LOSE weight so I am happy to deviate slighty

> > from a 100%

> > pure Candida diet by including some slow-buring

> > carbs such as

> > oats... provided that's not cancelling out the

> > effects of the rest

> > of my Candida diet and the effects of the

> > supplements I am taking...

>

> That's the thing that I am saying, is that it seems

> you are cancelling out the effects of your candida

> diet because you are giving the candida too many carbs

> to feed on. I think this is unnecessary because you

> shouldn't lose weight - you are probably worrying

> about losing weight for nothing.

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

>

>

> Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

> http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

>

[Guest guest]

--- mike_oconnor33 <mike_oconnor33@...> wrote:

> though - there are no oats in this, the ingredients

> are brown rice

> flakes, millet flakes, soya flakes, buckwheat,

> sunflower seeds,

> chopped dates, hazelnuts, flaked almonds, cashew

> pieces in variable

> proportions.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't fruit (dates) and

nuts (flaked almonds and cashews) not allowed on the

diet?

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

you're correct, Debbie...there really isn't anything in those

ingredients that is allowed on Bee's diet...not until much later, when

the candida is back in balance.

jackie

> > though - there are no oats in this, the ingredients

> > are brown rice

> > flakes, millet flakes, soya flakes, buckwheat,

> > sunflower seeds,

> > chopped dates, hazelnuts, flaked almonds, cashew

> > pieces in variable

> > proportions.

>

> Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't fruit (dates) and

> nuts (flaked almonds and cashews) not allowed on the

> diet?

>

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Debby Padilla-Hudson wrote:

>

>

> --- mike_oconnor33 <mike_oconnor33@...> wrote:

> > though - there are no oats in this, the ingredients

> > are brown rice

> > flakes, millet flakes, soya flakes, buckwheat,

> > sunflower seeds,

> > chopped dates, hazelnuts, flaked almonds, cashew

> > pieces in variable

> > proportions.

>

> Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't fruit (dates) and

> nuts (flaked almonds and cashews) not allowed on the

> diet?

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

Dates are definitely not. They have a a LOT of sugar in them.

The nuts are OK later on in the diet, when you're getting well, if

properly soaked according to Bee's instructions.

Zack

[Guest guest]

I used to pick out the dates anyway. Everything else I assumed was

okay because this is what my nutritionist, who I am paying to help

me follow an anti-Candida programme, told me to eat. As well as the

oatcakes and humous.

On the one hand, I'm very glad I found this site and the information

in it so that I can re-adjust my diet accordingly - and it's clear

I've had to make some adjustments over the last few days.

But on the other hand, it's little bit frustrating that I've been

following a 'Candida diet' for the last 6 weeks now and wondering

why I hadn't seen as much improvement in the condition of my eczema

(which is my main Candida symptomology) as I would have liked. Well,

I guess now I know - some of the things I was advised to eat weren't

that Candida friendly after all. The diet I was placed on seems more

of a combination low GI/anti-Candida one. I've decided to just take

a deep breath and move forwards from here on a pure anti-Candida

diet based on this site's guidelines, with no more grains or nuts or

high carbs, even those with low GI values.

I'd still like to thank everyone for their input though - I do feel

better knowing that I'm now on track to becoming healthy again.

Mike x

> Dates are definitely not. They have a a LOT of sugar in them.

>

> The nuts are OK later on in the diet, when you're getting well, if

> properly soaked according to Bee's instructions.

>

> Zack

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, Debby, you are correct about dates and nuts not being allowed on

the diet. If nuts are added later they must be raw and then properly

soaked to remove the mineral blocking substances in them.

Bee

> > though - there are no oats in this, the ingredients

> > are brown rice

> > flakes, millet flakes, soya flakes, buckwheat,

> > sunflower seeds,

> > chopped dates, hazelnuts, flaked almonds, cashew

> > pieces in variable

> > proportions.

>

> Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't fruit (dates) and

> nuts (flaked almonds and cashews) not allowed on the

> diet?

[Guest guest]

Dear Mike,

Unfortunately some nutritionist are schooled in modern methods of

nutrition and do not understand about foods like my article advises.

You are on the right track now. Go for it! To see improvements in

your eczema it takes time and patience. The body takes its own time

healing, and you can't push it. It took me 2 1/2 years to cure my

candida and I was in a very bad state.

The best to you,

Bee

>

> I used to pick out the dates anyway. Everything else I assumed was

> okay because this is what my nutritionist, who I am paying to help

> me follow an anti-Candida programme, told me to eat. As well as the

> oatcakes and humous.

>

> On the one hand, I'm very glad I found this site and the

information > in it so that I can re-adjust my diet accordingly - and

it's clear > I've had to make some adjustments over the last few

days.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee.

>

> I have been on an all meat-fat diet (pemmican) along with broths / stocks for

the past 2 weeks. Exclusively!

>

> Not even a taste or smell of fruit or any carbs. I have been getting brain fog

and slight depression lately. I was on worthless depression medication

(Wellbutrin) because my physician could not diagnose 'adrenal fatigue'.

>

> Does the body 'retrace' brain fog?

+++Hi LukeC,

Yes, you do retrace brain fog and depression.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee.

So if I'm very strict with your program can I add 1/4 cup of brown rice a day

without problems or they are likely to delay healing?

Thanks.

Fabio

> ==>I lost tremendous weight on the candida program; at first it was 1

> lb. per day, then 2 lbs. and then 3 lbs. per day. I was skin and

> bones. I stopped my weight from plunging by eating a buckwheat cake

> that my mother made for me; unfortunately I have not been able to

> find the recipe. Oats however are gluten containing. Brown rice,

> buckwheat, millet & quinoa are non-gluten grains, but they all need

> to be soaked properly to remove phytates which block minerals

> absorption. So, yes, brown rice is okay if you keep it to a minimum -

> preferably 1/4 cup per day, but you might do okay on more if the

> rest of your diet is very strict. It is best if you always eat them

> along with good meats and fats, and not alone.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee.

>

> So if I'm very strict with your program can I add 1/4 cup of brown rice a day

without problems or they are likely to delay healing?

>

+++Hi Fabio,

You copied my message from 2006 - 4 years ago? You sure had to dig deep to find

it.

I've discovered many things since then so currently I don't recommend having any

brown rice or other grains of any kind.

Bee