Is there a doctor in the house?

[Guest guest]

I have recently moved to the Pensacola, Florida area. I am trying to

find a doctor who treats candida but have had no luck so far. If you

know of a doctor in any of the following locations, I would really

appreciate your help! Locations: Pensacola, FL, Destin, FL, Panama

City, FL, Mobile, AL, Montgomery, AL, or Birmingham, AL. I have been

trying to cure candidiasis by diet alone but I know I need the help

of a good physician. Thanks so much! Amy

[Guest guest]

Hi Teri

These are my thoughts too.

My 2nd CT was last friday morning.

The hospital told me to go home and call my GP, they wouldnt give me any info right then.

I called friday afternoon late, left a message, and then they were closed for the weekend.

Last monday I called again.

No callback until today [wednesday], so since I was picking up my meds, I went around the corner to the clinic and asked to see someone.

All Ive wanted to know is what my CT said, and how to proceed from here.

Its been 5 days.

Still no info.

And some pain meds would be nice.

I have Oxycontin time release [1 per day], and that is good for Fibro and general discomfort, but not for sharp, localized pain.

I dont intend on eating them up, and getting addicted.

Been there, done that.

I shall be exploring my options.

I cannot accept a doc who wont give me personalized care, and work with me.

I also will not accept another Dr God.

[i did that before and he almost killed me from West Niles Meningitis.]

Neither of these things is an unreasonable request.

The problem is - breaking in a new doc.

I am facing HCV TX, and I want to be secure with my care.

Gad.

love

don in ks

From: Teri Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>Subject: Re: [ ] is there a doctor in the house? Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:15 PM

Uhm Don,

You're not in the wrong here. I wouldn't try to fix this. I would find a new doc. Period. You should have had answers before now. When you call a doctor's office with an issue it is EXPECTED that you get a return call that same day. If you call in the morning, you should have a call back before the doctor starts seeing his afternoon patients, if you call in the afternoon, you should have a call back before the doctor leaves for the day. That's how it is supposed to work in a well run office. You have been suffering with this for far too long. Now as far as the CT Scan is concerned, if it was done today, today is too soon for the doc to have reviewed the results. I wouldn't expect that til the day afterwards. Dropping into the office unexpectedly is never looked on highly by a medical staff. They hate that. The doctor usually does not come out when a patient shows up

wanting to speak with him. I do know that many doctors are intimidated when a patient has prior medical training and is able to keep up with their illness. It takes a real special doctor to put up with me because of that. This guy sounds like he is intimidated and it sounds like he wants you to go elsewhere. Not sure why but that's how it sounds to me. Sometimes they get this way when they can't figure out what is wrong and you are out of the scope of their comfort zone. That's what happened with my last doctor. After 10 years, medically, I was more than he could handle. His way of telling me that was to blow up at me after he sent me to the emergency room. He wanted me admitted and the on call doctor said I didn't need to be admitted. My doc was pissed and the relationship ended over the phone the next day. He did tell me that he would have to send me to specialists because he had no idea how

to proceed with me. Fresh new doctor fixed me right up after the first visit. Sometimes you need a set of new eyes. I definitely would not go back to that office.

Hugs,Teri

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>WebWarriors grp < >Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:49:24 PMSubject: [ ] is there a doctor in the house?

Hi everyone

Well, I had an interesting day.......

As you all know, I have been dealing with my kidneys for the past 4 weeks.!!!!!

I have barely been functioning.

Today it may have come to a head....hummmmmm.

Last week on tuesday I called my GP's nurse, needing info on my prognosis, and advice on how to proceed because I am urinating blood, clots, and no stones are passing.

I have been in a lot of pain with no pain relief, general discomfort, unable to sleep, nausea, etc., for a long time.

I have followed all the things that I have been asked to do - proceedures and meds.

I left a message, and got no responce all week, so on thursday eve I called again, and left a message with the clinics Compliance Officer? [whatever the H that is?], stating my needs.

Still no callback, but later on a nurse did call me, and told me to go to the hospital the following morning for a 2nd CT.

I did the CT, and later on called the clinic again to find out what the CT showed, like the hospital told me to do.

No responce, and then they were closed all weekend.

Monday, this week, I called the nurse again, and left another message.

No responce so I called again this morning, and asked to speak to the CO again.

She was at lunch, but I was told to call back at 130PM.

At 130, I was around the corner picking up my med refills with my home caregiver guy, so I though I would just drop in and speak to her in person rather than call when I got home.

No big deal right?

So Im sitting there with my home caregiver guy, and the CO.

- I told her Im sorry for bothering her, but the medical staff is not responding to my calls.

- I told her Im not trying to make waves, or get anyone into trouble, and dont want to file a complaint.

- That all I want is my CT DX, and to know how to proceed with my kidney problems.

- I told her that I am also concerned that maybe I offended someone, somehow, and that is why - for the second week - I am not recieving any callbacks from the medical staff.

In walks my GP, and he proceeds to tell me, he is going to talk, and I am going to listen.

errrrrr.....Ok???

- He told me that I am being impatient.

- He told me that I am being offensive and disrepectful of him, his staff, and the clinic by demanding answers about my labs and health concerns in a timely manner.

- He told me that if I dont like the way things are going, that I am welcome to find a new GP.

[And a few other choice things.]

Then he walks out, leaving the 3 of us sitting there with our mouths hanging open.

This was the doctor that just a few months ago, I was raving about being such a good doc???

I turned to the CO lady totally shocked.

- I told her that this tiraide was totally unexpected, wrong, and out of line.

- I told her that I was expecting the doc to tell me what my CT showed, and how to proceed....and maybe give me a new appmt date.

- I told her that I have NEVER been ordered by a doctor to shut up and listen, brow beat, treated like a child [i am 60], and not given a chance to respond to defend myself.

- I told her that it is MY HEALTH that I am concerned about.

- I told her that it is wrong of the med staff not to bother to call me back....for 2 weeks in a row....how much trouble is it to make a 5 minute phone call.....I have an answering machine.

- I told her that the whole reason I am sitting there with her now, is that I cannot get beyond the receptionist, or their message machine.

- I told her that I am shocked because this doctor and I have had a very good patient/doc working relationship for 2 years....because he would listen to me, and talk with me about my health concerns.....until now.

- I told her again that I didnt come in there today to make waves or complain or get anyone into trouble. That I was in the neighborhood, so why not show up in person?

- I told her that I deal daily with folks in crisis mode, and have learned to walk somewhat lightly with them. That I am learning bunches about bedside manner.

- I told her that I am not totally ignorant about right and wrong, or medical issues.

- I told her that I dont even treat children like children because it is degrading at the least.

- I told her that I have been missing other important medical appmts because this problem is taking so long to resolve.

- I asked that why, if they dont want to treat me, or cannot treat me, am I not being refered to bigger and better?

- AND....that none of this would be happening if the ball wasnt being dropped, and I was being kept informed about my health.....I mean, thats why I go to a doctor, isnt it?

The CO lady told me that she would have the nurse call me tomarrow morning with my CT DX.

I gave her a copy of the timeline that I had made of the events, and the med care I have recieved since Aug 23, when all this kidney stuff began.

We talked for a bit more, and then my home health guy and I left, after thanking her for her time.

On the way home, my home care guy and I discussed what went down.

I asked him if I had been out of line by anything I had done/said up to now, and at this meeting.

He said no. That I had been a little upset, understandably, but not overwhelmingly so.

He told me also that he has never seen a doctor being so rude to a patient.

Nor have I.

Then it dawned on me.....I just met God.....Doctor God, and also Dr Jeckle/Mr Hyde.

I told him that Im not sure I want this guy minding my future health care.....like during HCV TX.

That my confidence and trust have been shattered.

We talked more about what I should do now....find a new doctor?...and where?...who?

Well.......

I guess I have some appologising to do to try to mend this damage, if I can.

I dont mind that, no big deal....even if I dont think that I have done anything wrong.

I could be mistaken, and I figure it is better to fix, than to throw fuel on the fire.

If it cannot be fixed, I shall move on....leary, but lessons learned.

This is what the old hippy in me says.......'bummer man'.

Well, that was my afternoon.

Time sure does fly when your having fun. LOL :-)

I hope you all are having a GREAT day, and are all well.

love

don in ks

[Guest guest]

Don,Am I correct in assuming this isn't your Gastro? And is this the same place where you said you were seen by a PA and not the MD? If it's not your Gastro, it has no effect on your HCV tx at all. During tx my GP backed down to let the Gastro do all the work.. It was his realm, it was his project, the GP stood back. I would definitely go somewhere where the person dealing with me was a real DOCTOR and not a PA. These places exist. Really they do. I have never ever been seen by a PA unless they were training and then after the PA took a history the real doc would come in. I think this is a golden opportunity for you to get some good medical treatment

elsewhere.Hugs,Teri From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 9:09:59 PMSubject: Re: [ ] is there a doctor in the house?

Hi Teri

These are my thoughts too.

My 2nd CT was last friday morning.

The hospital told me to go home and call my GP, they wouldnt give me any info right then.

I called friday afternoon late, left a message, and then they were closed for the weekend.

Last monday I called again.

No callback until today [wednesday], so since I was picking up my meds, I went around the corner to the clinic and asked to see someone.

All Ive wanted to know is what my CT said, and how to proceed from here.

Its been 5 days.

Still no info.

And some pain meds would be nice.

I have Oxycontin time release [1 per day], and that is good for Fibro and general discomfort, but not for sharp, localized pain.

I dont intend on eating them up, and getting addicted.

Been there, done that.

I shall be exploring my options.

I cannot accept a doc who wont give me personalized care, and work with me.

I also will not accept another Dr God.

[i did that before and he almost killed me from West Niles Meningitis.]

Neither of these things is an unreasonable request.

The problem is - breaking in a new doc.

I am facing HCV TX, and I want to be secure with my care.

Gad.

love

don in ks

From: Teri Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>Subject: Re: [ ] is there a doctor in the house? Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:15 PM

Uhm Don,

You're not in the wrong here. I wouldn't try to fix this. I would find a new doc. Period. You should have had answers before now. When you call a doctor's office with an issue it is EXPECTED that you get a return call that same day. If you call in the morning, you should have a call back before the doctor starts seeing his afternoon patients, if you call in the afternoon, you should have a call back before the doctor leaves for the day. That's how it is supposed to work in a well run office. You have been suffering with this for far too long. Now as far as the CT Scan is concerned, if it was done today, today is too soon for the doc to have reviewed the results. I wouldn't expect that til the day afterwards. Dropping into the office unexpectedly is never looked on highly by a medical staff. They hate that. The doctor usually does not come out when a patient shows up

wanting to speak with him. I do know that many doctors are intimidated when a patient has prior medical training and is able to keep up with their illness. It takes a real special doctor to put up with me because of that. This guy sounds like he is intimidated and it sounds like he wants you to go elsewhere. Not sure why but that's how it sounds to me. Sometimes they get this way when they can't figure out what is wrong and you are out of the scope of their comfort zone. That's what happened with my last doctor. After 10 years, medically, I was more than he could handle. His way of telling me that was to blow up at me after he sent me to the emergency room. He wanted me admitted and the on call doctor said I didn't need to be admitted. My doc was pissed and the relationship ended over the phone the next day. He did tell me that he would have to send me to specialists because he had no idea how

to proceed with me. Fresh new doctor fixed me right up after the first visit. Sometimes you need a set of new eyes. I definitely would not go back to that office.

Hugs,Teri

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>WebWarriors grp < >Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:49:24 PMSubject: [ ] is there a doctor in the house?

Hi everyone

Well, I had an interesting day.......

As you all know, I have been dealing with my kidneys for the past 4 weeks.!!!!!

I have barely been functioning.

Today it may have come to a head....hummmmmm.

Last week on tuesday I called my GP's nurse, needing info on my prognosis, and advice on how to proceed because I am urinating blood, clots, and no stones are passing.

I have been in a lot of pain with no pain relief, general discomfort, unable to sleep, nausea, etc., for a long time.

I have followed all the things that I have been asked to do - proceedures and meds.

I left a message, and got no responce all week, so on thursday eve I called again, and left a message with the clinics Compliance Officer? [whatever the H that is?], stating my needs.

Still no callback, but later on a nurse did call me, and told me to go to the hospital the following morning for a 2nd CT.

I did the CT, and later on called the clinic again to find out what the CT showed, like the hospital told me to do.

No responce, and then they were closed all weekend.

Monday, this week, I called the nurse again, and left another message.

No responce so I called again this morning, and asked to speak to the CO again.

She was at lunch, but I was told to call back at 130PM.

At 130, I was around the corner picking up my med refills with my home caregiver guy, so I though I would just drop in and speak to her in person rather than call when I got home.

No big deal right?

So Im sitting there with my home caregiver guy, and the CO.

- I told her Im sorry for bothering her, but the medical staff is not responding to my calls.

- I told her Im not trying to make waves, or get anyone into trouble, and dont want to file a complaint.

- That all I want is my CT DX, and to know how to proceed with my kidney problems.

- I told her that I am also concerned that maybe I offended someone, somehow, and that is why - for the second week - I am not recieving any callbacks from the medical staff.

In walks my GP, and he proceeds to tell me, he is going to talk, and I am going to listen.

errrrrr.....Ok???

- He told me that I am being impatient.

- He told me that I am being offensive and disrepectful of him, his staff, and the clinic by demanding answers about my labs and health concerns in a timely manner.

- He told me that if I dont like the way things are going, that I am welcome to find a new GP.

[And a few other choice things.]

Then he walks out, leaving the 3 of us sitting there with our mouths hanging open.

This was the doctor that just a few months ago, I was raving about being such a good doc???

I turned to the CO lady totally shocked.

- I told her that this tiraide was totally unexpected, wrong, and out of line.

- I told her that I was expecting the doc to tell me what my CT showed, and how to proceed....and maybe give me a new appmt date.

- I told her that I have NEVER been ordered by a doctor to shut up and listen, brow beat, treated like a child [i am 60], and not given a chance to respond to defend myself.

- I told her that it is MY HEALTH that I am concerned about.

- I told her that it is wrong of the med staff not to bother to call me back....for 2 weeks in a row....how much trouble is it to make a 5 minute phone call.....I have an answering machine.

- I told her that the whole reason I am sitting there with her now, is that I cannot get beyond the receptionist, or their message machine.

- I told her that I am shocked because this doctor and I have had a very good patient/doc working relationship for 2 years....because he would listen to me, and talk with me about my health concerns.....until now.

- I told her again that I didnt come in there today to make waves or complain or get anyone into trouble. That I was in the neighborhood, so why not show up in person?

- I told her that I deal daily with folks in crisis mode, and have learned to walk somewhat lightly with them. That I am learning bunches about bedside manner.

- I told her that I am not totally ignorant about right and wrong, or medical issues.

- I told her that I dont even treat children like children because it is degrading at the least.

- I told her that I have been missing other important medical appmts because this problem is taking so long to resolve.

- I asked that why, if they dont want to treat me, or cannot treat me, am I not being refered to bigger and better?

- AND....that none of this would be happening if the ball wasnt being dropped, and I was being kept informed about my health.....I mean, thats why I go to a doctor, isnt it?

The CO lady told me that she would have the nurse call me tomarrow morning with my CT DX.

I gave her a copy of the timeline that I had made of the events, and the med care I have recieved since Aug 23, when all this kidney stuff began.

We talked for a bit more, and then my home health guy and I left, after thanking her for her time.

On the way home, my home care guy and I discussed what went down.

I asked him if I had been out of line by anything I had done/said up to now, and at this meeting.

He said no. That I had been a little upset, understandably, but not overwhelmingly so.

He told me also that he has never seen a doctor being so rude to a patient.

Nor have I.

Then it dawned on me.....I just met God.....Doctor God, and also Dr Jeckle/Mr Hyde.

I told him that Im not sure I want this guy minding my future health care.....like during HCV TX.

That my confidence and trust have been shattered.

We talked more about what I should do now....find a new doctor?...and where?...who?

Well.......

I guess I have some appologising to do to try to mend this damage, if I can.

I dont mind that, no big deal....even if I dont think that I have done anything wrong.

I could be mistaken, and I figure it is better to fix, than to throw fuel on the fire.

If it cannot be fixed, I shall move on....leary, but lessons learned.

This is what the old hippy in me says.......'bummer man'.

Well, that was my afternoon.

Time sure does fly when your having fun. LOL :-)

I hope you all are having a GREAT day, and are all well.

love

don in ks

[Guest guest]

DonBy everything you have said here - you were not in the wrong!! That Dr. has some whiny front end staff, that probably shouldn't even work in a Dr's office. Either that or it's his wife or daughter!!! Or it's his on the side girlfriend!!My gawd man, it's your kidneys and that's a hurt I know because I am prone to kidney infections, if I don't watch myself. Therefore, to have to wait 2 weeks for the results of some CT Scan, is away out of line.Don't you do the apologizing!!!!!! Your relationship with this Dr. has already gone sour, so you'd better find another, for sure.

However, I sure would write him a scathing letter about his behaviour toward you!!! Then, to stand there and give you shit about being impatient - NO WAY.Even your old Dad wouldn't have the right to talk to you like that in public. Perhaps this Dr. has a God complex or something. Does he except you to know all the answers??? Geez I'd be pissed if anything like that happened to me. At the very least, I'd think for a long time about marching right back in there, waiting for the Dr. to come anywhere near the lobby and then, lambaste him right back, the way he did to you!!Isn't it interesting that this clinic has a "Compliance Officer"??? What the hell does a Compliance Officer do in a medical clinic??? That's weird....Gloria

Hi everyone

Well, I had an interesting day.......

As you all know, I have been dealing with my kidneys for the past 4 weeks.!!!!!

I have barely been functioning.

Today it may have come to a head....hummmmmm.

Last week on tuesday I called my GP's nurse, needing info on my prognosis, and advice on how to proceed because I am urinating blood, clots, and no stones are passing.

I have been in a lot of pain with no pain relief, general discomfort, unable to sleep, nausea, etc., for a long time.

I have followed all the things that I have been asked to do - proceedures and meds.

I left a message, and got no responce all week, so on thursday eve I called again, and left a message with the clinics Compliance Officer? [whatever the H that is?], stating my needs.

Still no callback, but later on a nurse did call me, and told me to go to the hospital the following morning for a 2nd CT.

I did the CT, and later on called the clinic again to find out what the CT showed, like the hospital told me to do.

No responce, and then they were closed all weekend.

Monday, this week, I called the nurse again, and left another message.

No responce so I called again this morning, and asked to speak to the CO again.

She was at lunch, but I was told to call back at 130PM.

At 130, I was around the corner picking up my med refills with my home caregiver guy, so I though I would just drop in and speak to her in person rather than call when I got home.

No big deal right?

So Im sitting there with my home caregiver guy, and the CO.

- I told her Im sorry for bothering her, but the medical staff is not responding to my calls.

- I told her Im not trying to make waves, or get anyone into trouble, and dont want to file a complaint.

- That all I want is my CT DX, and to know how to proceed with my kidney problems.

- I told her that I am also concerned that maybe I offended someone, somehow, and that is why - for the second week - I am not recieving any callbacks from the medical staff.

In walks my GP, and he proceeds to tell me, he is going to talk, and I am going to listen.

errrrrr.....Ok???

- He told me that I am being impatient.

- He told me that I am being offensive and disrepectful of him, his staff, and the clinic by demanding answers about my labs and health concerns in a timely manner.

- He told me that if I dont like the way things are going, that I am welcome to find a new GP.

[And a few other choice things.]

Then he walks out, leaving the 3 of us sitting there with our mouths hanging open.

This was the doctor that just a few months ago, I was raving about being such a good doc???

I turned to the CO lady totally shocked.

- I told her that this tiraide was totally unexpected, wrong, and out of line.

- I told her that I was expecting the doc to tell me what my CT showed, and how to proceed....and maybe give me a new appmt date.

- I told her that I have NEVER been ordered by a doctor to shut up and listen, brow beat, treated like a child [i am 60], and not given a chance to respond to defend myself.

- I told her that it is MY HEALTH that I am concerned about.

- I told her that it is wrong of the med staff not to bother to call me back....for 2 weeks in a row....how much trouble is it to make a 5 minute phone call.....I have an answering machine.

- I told her that the whole reason I am sitting there with her now, is that I cannot get beyond the receptionist, or their message machine.

- I told her that I am shocked because this doctor and I have had a very good patient/doc working relationship for 2 years....because he would listen to me, and talk with me about my health concerns.....until now.

- I told her again that I didnt come in there today to make waves or complain or get anyone into trouble. That I was in the neighborhood, so why not show up in person?

- I told her that I deal daily with folks in crisis mode, and have learned to walk somewhat lightly with them. That I am learning bunches about bedside manner.

- I told her that I am not totally ignorant about right and wrong, or medical issues.

- I told her that I dont even treat children like children because it is degrading at the least.

- I told her that I have been missing other important medical appmts because this problem is taking so long to resolve.

- I asked that why, if they dont want to treat me, or cannot treat me, am I not being refered to bigger and better?

- AND....that none of this would be happening if the ball wasnt being dropped, and I was being kept informed about my health.....I mean, thats why I go to a doctor, isnt it?

The CO lady told me that she would have the nurse call me tomarrow morning with my CT DX.

I gave her a copy of the timeline that I had made of the events, and the med care I have recieved since Aug 23, when all this kidney stuff began.

We talked for a bit more, and then my home health guy and I left, after thanking her for her time.

On the way home, my home care guy and I discussed what went down.

I asked him if I had been out of line by anything I had done/said up to now, and at this meeting.

He said no. That I had been a little upset, understandably, but not overwhelmingly so.

He told me also that he has never seen a doctor being so rude to a patient.

Nor have I.

Then it dawned on me.....I just met God.....Doctor God, and also Dr Jeckle/Mr Hyde.

I told him that Im not sure I want this guy minding my future health care.....like during HCV TX.

That my confidence and trust have been shattered.

We talked more about what I should do now....find a new doctor?...and where?...who?

Well.......

I guess I have some appologising to do to try to mend this damage, if I can.

I dont mind that, no big deal....even if I dont think that I have done anything wrong.

I could be mistaken, and I figure it is better to fix, than to throw fuel on the fire.

If it cannot be fixed, I shall move on....leary, but lessons learned.

This is what the old hippy in me says.......'bummer man'.

Well, that was my afternoon.

Time sure does fly when your having fun. LOL :-)

I hope you all are having a GREAT day, and are all well.

love

don in ks

[Guest guest]

Oh, Don, I am so sorry about how they treated you. Are we sure we don't have the same office staff. I love my HDoc, but already the staff and I have battled. Last appt I went there with Hubby and Becky and meds. Showed up on time. They said Doc out of town and they had rescheduled my appt. DUH; they didn't fill ME in.And they acted like I was one at fault ( ???) . So now I go to new rescheduled appt to start tx this friday. But Hubby can't take off another day. So, sadly , he cannot be with me. anyway, I hope your doc behaves better In future. As you always te us, Hang in there and always know we love youhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Sep 15, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Christ <ludichrist2000@...> wrote:

Hi everyone

Well, I had an interesting day.......

As you all know, I have been dealing with my kidneys for the past 4 weeks.!!!!!

I have barely been functioning.

Today it may have come to a head....hummmmmm.

Last week on tuesday I called my GP's nurse, needing info on my prognosis, and advice on how to proceed because I am urinating blood, clots, and no stones are passing.

I have been in a lot of pain with no pain relief, general discomfort, unable to sleep, nausea, etc., for a long time.

I have followed all the things that I have been asked to do - proceedures and meds.

I left a message, and got no responce all week, so on thursday eve I called again, and left a message with the clinics Compliance Officer? [whatever the H that is?], stating my needs.

Still no callback, but later on a nurse did call me, and told me to go to the hospital the following morning for a 2nd CT.

I did the CT, and later on called the clinic again to find out what the CT showed, like the hospital told me to do.

No responce, and then they were closed all weekend.

Monday, this week, I called the nurse again, and left another message.

No responce so I called again this morning, and asked to speak to the CO again.

She was at lunch, but I was told to call back at 130PM.

At 130, I was around the corner picking up my med refills with my home caregiver guy, so I though I would just drop in and speak to her in person rather than call when I got home.

No big deal right?

So Im sitting there with my home caregiver guy, and the CO.

- I told her Im sorry for bothering her, but the medical staff is not responding to my calls.

- I told her Im not trying to make waves, or get anyone into trouble, and dont want to file a complaint.

- That all I want is my CT DX, and to know how to proceed with my kidney problems.

- I told her that I am also concerned that maybe I offended someone, somehow, and that is why - for the second week - I am not recieving any callbacks from the medical staff.

In walks my GP, and he proceeds to tell me, he is going to talk, and I am going to listen.

errrrrr.....Ok???

- He told me that I am being impatient.

- He told me that I am being offensive and disrepectful of him, his staff, and the clinic by demanding answers about my labs and health concerns in a timely manner.

- He told me that if I dont like the way things are going, that I am welcome to find a new GP.

[And a few other choice things.]

Then he walks out, leaving the 3 of us sitting there with our mouths hanging open.

This was the doctor that just a few months ago, I was raving about being such a good doc???

I turned to the CO lady totally shocked.

- I told her that this tiraide was totally unexpected, wrong, and out of line.

- I told her that I was expecting the doc to tell me what my CT showed, and how to proceed....and maybe give me a new appmt date.

- I told her that I have NEVER been ordered by a doctor to shut up and listen, brow beat, treated like a child [i am 60], and not given a chance to respond to defend myself.

- I told her that it is MY HEALTH that I am concerned about.

- I told her that it is wrong of the med staff not to bother to call me back....for 2 weeks in a row....how much trouble is it to make a 5 minute phone call.....I have an answering machine.

- I told her that the whole reason I am sitting there with her now, is that I cannot get beyond the receptionist, or their message machine.

- I told her that I am shocked because this doctor and I have had a very good patient/doc working relationship for 2 years....because he would listen to me, and talk with me about my health concerns.....until now.

- I told her again that I didnt come in there today to make waves or complain or get anyone into trouble. That I was in the neighborhood, so why not show up in person?

- I told her that I deal daily with folks in crisis mode, and have learned to walk somewhat lightly with them. That I am learning bunches about bedside manner.

- I told her that I am not totally ignorant about right and wrong, or medical issues.

- I told her that I dont even treat children like children because it is degrading at the least.

- I told her that I have been missing other important medical appmts because this problem is taking so long to resolve.

- I asked that why, if they dont want to treat me, or cannot treat me, am I not being refered to bigger and better?

- AND....that none of this would be happening if the ball wasnt being dropped, and I was being kept informed about my health.....I mean, thats why I go to a doctor, isnt it?

The CO lady told me that she would have the nurse call me tomarrow morning with my CT DX.

I gave her a copy of the timeline that I had made of the events, and the med care I have recieved since Aug 23, when all this kidney stuff began.

We talked for a bit more, and then my home health guy and I left, after thanking her for her time.

On the way home, my home care guy and I discussed what went down.

I asked him if I had been out of line by anything I had done/said up to now, and at this meeting.

He said no. That I had been a little upset, understandably, but not overwhelmingly so.

He told me also that he has never seen a doctor being so rude to a patient.

Nor have I.

Then it dawned on me.....I just met God.....Doctor God, and also Dr Jeckle/Mr Hyde.

I told him that Im not sure I want this guy minding my future health care.....like during HCV TX.

That my confidence and trust have been shattered.

We talked more about what I should do now....find a new doctor?...and where?...who?

Well.......

I guess I have some appologising to do to try to mend this damage, if I can.

I dont mind that, no big deal....even if I dont think that I have done anything wrong.

I could be mistaken, and I figure it is better to fix, than to throw fuel on the fire.

If it cannot be fixed, I shall move on....leary, but lessons learned.

This is what the old hippy in me says.......'bummer man'.

Well, that was my afternoon.

Time sure does fly when your having fun. LOL :-)

I hope you all are having a GREAT day, and are all well.

love

don in ks

[Guest guest]

DonPlease remember, while looking for another GP, that you really don't know if you will be doing tx all that soon. However, your Hep Dr. takes care of all that and the GP will just be the one that you go to for other meds. Also, your medical file will follow you, as soon as you sign a form saying that. Hopefully, you will find a new young, hot to trot Dr. that has all the new learning etc.My GP was not even getting reports on my care from the clinic in Vancouver. I was the first one to let her know about the cancer even. However, the clinician did promise to send her the catch up results of my time in the hospital and I know she has that. Otherwise, all I saw her for was repeats on meds and a couple of

times, bumping up my anti-depressants.Gloria

Hi Teri

These are my thoughts too.

My 2nd CT was last friday morning.

The hospital told me to go home and call my GP, they wouldnt give me any info right then.

I called friday afternoon late, left a message, and then they were closed for the weekend.

Last monday I called again.

No callback until today [wednesday], so since I was picking up my meds, I went around the corner to the clinic and asked to see someone.

All Ive wanted to know is what my CT said, and how to proceed from here.

Its been 5 days.

Still no info.

And some pain meds would be nice.

I have Oxycontin time release [1 per day], and that is good for Fibro and general discomfort, but not for sharp, localized pain.

I dont intend on eating them up, and getting addicted.

Been there, done that.

I shall be exploring my options.

I cannot accept a doc who wont give me personalized care, and work with me.

I also will not accept another Dr God.

[i did that before and he almost killed me from West Niles Meningitis.]

Neither of these things is an unreasonable request.

The problem is - breaking in a new doc.

I am facing HCV TX, and I want to be secure with my care.

Gad.

love

don in ks

From: Teri Gottlieb <theresagottlieb@...>Subject: Re: [ ] is there a doctor in the house? Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 8:15 PM

Uhm Don,

You're not in the wrong here. I wouldn't try to fix this. I would find a new doc. Period. You should have had answers before now. When you call a doctor's office with an issue it is EXPECTED that you get a return call that same day. If you call in the morning, you should have a call back before the doctor starts seeing his afternoon patients, if you call in the afternoon, you should have a call back before the doctor leaves for the day. That's how it is supposed to work in a well run office. You have been suffering with this for far too long. Now as far as the CT Scan is concerned, if it was done today, today is too soon for the doc to have reviewed the results. I wouldn't expect that til the day afterwards. Dropping into the office unexpectedly is never looked on highly by a medical staff. They hate that. The doctor usually does not come out when a patient shows up

wanting to speak with him. I do know that many doctors are intimidated when a patient has prior medical training and is able to keep up with their illness. It takes a real special doctor to put up with me because of that. This guy sounds like he is intimidated and it sounds like he wants you to go elsewhere. Not sure why but that's how it sounds to me. Sometimes they get this way when they can't figure out what is wrong and you are out of the scope of their comfort zone. That's what happened with my last doctor. After 10 years, medically, I was more than he could handle. His way of telling me that was to blow up at me after he sent me to the emergency room. He wanted me admitted and the on call doctor said I didn't need to be admitted. My doc was pissed and the relationship ended over the phone the next day. He did tell me that he would have to send me to specialists because he had no idea how

to proceed with me. Fresh new doctor fixed me right up after the first visit. Sometimes you need a set of new eyes. I definitely would not go back to that office.

Hugs,Teri

From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...>WebWarriors grp < >Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:49:24 PMSubject: [ ] is there a doctor in the house?

Hi everyone

Well, I had an interesting day.......

As you all know, I have been dealing with my kidneys for the past 4 weeks.!!!!!

I have barely been functioning.

Today it may have come to a head....hummmmmm.

Last week on tuesday I called my GP's nurse, needing info on my prognosis, and advice on how to proceed because I am urinating blood, clots, and no stones are passing.

I have been in a lot of pain with no pain relief, general discomfort, unable to sleep, nausea, etc., for a long time.

I have followed all the things that I have been asked to do - proceedures and meds.

I left a message, and got no responce all week, so on thursday eve I called again, and left a message with the clinics Compliance Officer? [whatever the H that is?], stating my needs.

Still no callback, but later on a nurse did call me, and told me to go to the hospital the following morning for a 2nd CT.

I did the CT, and later on called the clinic again to find out what the CT showed, like the hospital told me to do.

No responce, and then they were closed all weekend.

Monday, this week, I called the nurse again, and left another message.

No responce so I called again this morning, and asked to speak to the CO again.

She was at lunch, but I was told to call back at 130PM.

At 130, I was around the corner picking up my med refills with my home caregiver guy, so I though I would just drop in and speak to her in person rather than call when I got home.

No big deal right?

So Im sitting there with my home caregiver guy, and the CO.

- I told her Im sorry for bothering her, but the medical staff is not responding to my calls.

- I told her Im not trying to make waves, or get anyone into trouble, and dont want to file a complaint.

- That all I want is my CT DX, and to know how to proceed with my kidney problems.

- I told her that I am also concerned that maybe I offended someone, somehow, and that is why - for the second week - I am not recieving any callbacks from the medical staff.

In walks my GP, and he proceeds to tell me, he is going to talk, and I am going to listen.

errrrrr.....Ok???

- He told me that I am being impatient.

- He told me that I am being offensive and disrepectful of him, his staff, and the clinic by demanding answers about my labs and health concerns in a timely manner.

- He told me that if I dont like the way things are going, that I am welcome to find a new GP.

[And a few other choice things.]

Then he walks out, leaving the 3 of us sitting there with our mouths hanging open.

This was the doctor that just a few months ago, I was raving about being such a good doc???

I turned to the CO lady totally shocked.

- I told her that this tiraide was totally unexpected, wrong, and out of line.

- I told her that I was expecting the doc to tell me what my CT showed, and how to proceed....and maybe give me a new appmt date.

- I told her that I have NEVER been ordered by a doctor to shut up and listen, brow beat, treated like a child [i am 60], and not given a chance to respond to defend myself.

- I told her that it is MY HEALTH that I am concerned about.

- I told her that it is wrong of the med staff not to bother to call me back....for 2 weeks in a row....how much trouble is it to make a 5 minute phone call.....I have an answering machine.

- I told her that the whole reason I am sitting there with her now, is that I cannot get beyond the receptionist, or their message machine.

- I told her that I am shocked because this doctor and I have had a very good patient/doc working relationship for 2 years....because he would listen to me, and talk with me about my health concerns.....until now.

- I told her again that I didnt come in there today to make waves or complain or get anyone into trouble. That I was in the neighborhood, so why not show up in person?

- I told her that I deal daily with folks in crisis mode, and have learned to walk somewhat lightly with them. That I am learning bunches about bedside manner.

- I told her that I am not totally ignorant about right and wrong, or medical issues.

- I told her that I dont even treat children like children because it is degrading at the least.

- I told her that I have been missing other important medical appmts because this problem is taking so long to resolve.

- I asked that why, if they dont want to treat me, or cannot treat me, am I not being refered to bigger and better?

- AND....that none of this would be happening if the ball wasnt being dropped, and I was being kept informed about my health.....I mean, thats why I go to a doctor, isnt it?

The CO lady told me that she would have the nurse call me tomarrow morning with my CT DX.

I gave her a copy of the timeline that I had made of the events, and the med care I have recieved since Aug 23, when all this kidney stuff began.

We talked for a bit more, and then my home health guy and I left, after thanking her for her time.

On the way home, my home care guy and I discussed what went down.

I asked him if I had been out of line by anything I had done/said up to now, and at this meeting.

He said no. That I had been a little upset, understandably, but not overwhelmingly so.

He told me also that he has never seen a doctor being so rude to a patient.

Nor have I.

Then it dawned on me.....I just met God.....Doctor God, and also Dr Jeckle/Mr Hyde.

I told him that Im not sure I want this guy minding my future health care.....like during HCV TX.

That my confidence and trust have been shattered.

We talked more about what I should do now....find a new doctor?...and where?...who?

Well.......

I guess I have some appologising to do to try to mend this damage, if I can.

I dont mind that, no big deal....even if I dont think that I have done anything wrong.

I could be mistaken, and I figure it is better to fix, than to throw fuel on the fire.

If it cannot be fixed, I shall move on....leary, but lessons learned.

This is what the old hippy in me says.......'bummer man'.

Well, that was my afternoon.

Time sure does fly when your having fun. LOL :-)

I hope you all are having a GREAT day, and are all well.

love

don in ks