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In a message dated 09/20/2000 12:10:53 PM Central Daylight Time,

ann.williams@... writes:

<< Interesting.....not sure I'd be brave enough to try it >>

I enjoy raisins in my bran flakes and will have a banana on occasion and have

experienced no ill effects... But usually to get rid of candida, you must

avoid sugars because they convert into yeast, or so I thought.

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In a message dated 00-09-20 12:38:41 EDT, peter.j.lake@... writes:

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I found an interesting story on the below link of someone who claims

they went on a fruit diet for their psorasis and found that it also

cured their candida. Interesting - any comments??

>>

Hmmm... fruit curing candida.... I don't know what to think. I know that I

have continued to eat fruit in spite of what the anti- sugar people say cuz I

need it for good digestion. Does this mean you're going to try it, Pete? If

you do, and it works, please let us know.

theresa

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Interesting.....not sure I'd be brave enough to try it, though! I guess

it depends in part on how bad the candida is - maybe a good ole

clean-out can help with some levels of infection. One thing he's

right about is the amount of conflicting information out there - argh!

I'd want to know a lot more before I acted on this.....it does make

sense at one level to totally detox, but the lack of protein and fat

would worry me. It's a shame there's no follow-up posts, or a bit

more background information.

Sceptical....

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Yikes on that one! I'm sure it worked for him, but I would be very sceptical

to try it...besides I'm not missing my fruits that much :-)

A couple of questions: what type of nuts, if any, can you eat on a candida

diet. Are we allowed red meat of any kind? And finally, like , I want

to know how long this is going to take until I can cheat (just a little

bit!!)...I have been very strict with myself, and every once in a while, you

just want that piece of cheesecake, you know? Does anyone here indulge every

once in a while without suffering major setbacks? Does anyone have any

suggestions for a special treat once in a while?

Thanks

Joanne

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>Subject: Fruit diet curing candida??????

>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:36:41 -0000

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>Hi

>

>I found an interesting story on the below link of someone who claims

>they went on a fruit diet for their psorasis and found that it also

>cured their candida. Interesting - any comments??

>

>PeteL

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Hi, Joanne.

On 20 Sep 00, at 18:45, Joanne Denis wrote:

> A couple of questions: what type of nuts, if any, can you eat on a candida

> diet.

No peanuts at all, but I've been told I can have other nuts IF I crack

tehm myself - ready-cracked nuts grow mould on their surfaces

very, very rapidly, so they're out.

> to know how long this is going to take until I can cheat (just a little

> bit!!)...

Well, I've been on The Diet since May, and I've cheated twice

(pizza, both times). The first time, about a month ago, I didn't have

too many problems apart from a mild stomach ache, but the

second time (last Saturday) I came out in spots within a matter of

hours, and felt thoroughly rotten for 3 or 4 days afterwards. I was in

bed by 6pm the day after, and still don't feel as good as I did before

the pizza.

I've not cheated with sugar at all, simply because it made me feel

so utterly dreadful before the diet. Literally, I'd have one single

chocolate, or a piece of fresh fruit, and within half an hour my head

would be spinning and I wouldn't be able to focus my eyes. My

idea of a sugar cheat now is a square of sugar-free diabetic

chocolate!!

I've got a friend who's on teh same diet, though, and she eased up

on herself after about 4 months without too many ill-effects. She

has days off where she has white bread, ice-cream, beer, all sorts,

and it doesn't appear to have done her any harm. Not sure I'd

recommend it, though - I'm going to fight this thing 100% from now

on in!! Just think - if your'e feeling miserable from not being able to

have treats, the candida must be feeling 10 times worse, and will

pack up and leave all the sooner if it's not getting fed at all!

All the best,

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Thanks Ann

Actually I must confess... I cheated a bit yesterday! I was making my

friend a chocolate birthday cake with chocolate icing (remember those?) and

of course I had a few tastes of the icing (oops!) Anyways, either the icing

wasn't very good or I've lost my taste for sugar - because I really didn't

enjoy it that much... Thank goodness that I didn't really have any ill

effects from the whole thing, but I do think that it was an important lesson

for me to learn. Those candida have a powerful persuasive nature of making

you want something that you know you shouldn't have. When I had it, I

realized that the risk that I was taking for such little satisfaction really

wasn't worth it. So today I have a new outlook.... Like they say, if you

fall off the wagon, its best to look at how far you've travelled before

hopping back on. I've come this far, there's no point in stopping now.

Take care,

Joanne

PS: Someone should make a Candida RAID drug...blow 'em out in one shot...

Nice dream eh?

>From: " Ann " <ann.williams@...>

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>Subject: Re: Fruit diet curing candida??????

>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:14:08 +0100

>

>Hi, Joanne.

>

>On 20 Sep 00, at 18:45, Joanne Denis wrote:

>

> > A couple of questions: what type of nuts, if any, can you eat on a

>candida

> > diet.

>

>No peanuts at all, but I've been told I can have other nuts IF I crack

>tehm myself - ready-cracked nuts grow mould on their surfaces

>very, very rapidly, so they're out.

>

> > to know how long this is going to take until I can cheat (just a little

> > bit!!)...

>

>Well, I've been on The Diet since May, and I've cheated twice

>(pizza, both times). The first time, about a month ago, I didn't have

>too many problems apart from a mild stomach ache, but the

>second time (last Saturday) I came out in spots within a matter of

>hours, and felt thoroughly rotten for 3 or 4 days afterwards. I was in

>bed by 6pm the day after, and still don't feel as good as I did before

>the pizza.

>

>I've not cheated with sugar at all, simply because it made me feel

>so utterly dreadful before the diet. Literally, I'd have one single

>chocolate, or a piece of fresh fruit, and within half an hour my head

>would be spinning and I wouldn't be able to focus my eyes. My

>idea of a sugar cheat now is a square of sugar-free diabetic

>chocolate!!

>

>I've got a friend who's on teh same diet, though, and she eased up

>on herself after about 4 months without too many ill-effects. She

>has days off where she has white bread, ice-cream, beer, all sorts,

>and it doesn't appear to have done her any harm. Not sure I'd

>recommend it, though - I'm going to fight this thing 100% from now

>on in!! Just think - if your'e feeling miserable from not being able to

>have treats, the candida must be feeling 10 times worse, and will

>pack up and leave all the sooner if it's not getting fed at all!

>

>All the best,

>Ann

>

>

>

>

>

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Theresa

No I won't be the guinea pig! But it is interesting - maybe it works

by flushing out your system?

Pete

> In a message dated 00-09-20 12:38:41 EDT, peter.j.lake@u... writes:

>

> <<

> I found an interesting story on the below link of someone who

claims

> they went on a fruit diet for their psorasis and found that it

also

> cured their candida. Interesting - any comments??

> >>

>

> Hmmm... fruit curing candida.... I don't know what to think. I

know

that I

> have continued to eat fruit in spite of what the anti- sugar people

say cuz I

> need it for good digestion. Does this mean you're going to try it,

Pete? If

> you do, and it works, please let us know.

>

> theresa

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Dear Everyone,

My vote is, yes, I think the fruit diet would cure candida. It would

exert a powerful cleansing force that the candida could not survive, even

if they were drowning in their food of sugar. My thought is, that by

detoxifying the body and especially cleansing out the colon, you are left

with an environment inhospitable to yeast. I also believe this because

I've experienced die-off reactions after a breakfast of only fruit. I'm

no scientist but I know when the yeast are dying, and it's after a fruit

breakfast.

For some reason I think green tea is also helpful- it seems I'm less

likely to have any symtoms the more I drink green tea. Has anyone ever

heard of this one?

Sincerely,

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My intuition tells me to believe this. Fruit produces an acidic environment

which yeast cannot live in. I am one who has eaten fruit on an anti-candida

diet (to ease my hypoglycemic feelings) and suffered no ill effects. Also,

when I have maintained a fruit and veggie diet for several days, I have

experienced die-off. Some of my sources say it is ok to eat tropical fruits

on a anti-candida diet; others say it is not ok. I have decided to restrict

fruits to 1-2 tropical fruits per day on the anti-candida diet.

~

In a message dated 9/20/00 11:38:41 AM Central Daylight Time,

peter.j.lake@... writes:

<<

I found an interesting story on the below link of someone who claims

they went on a fruit diet for their psorasis and found that it also

cured their candida. Interesting - any comments??

>>

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> I'd want to know a lot more before I acted on this.....it does make

> sense at one level to totally detox, but the lack of protein and

fat

> would worry me. It's a shame there's no follow-up posts, or a bit

> more background information.

I agree. In fact, I posted some questions, but unles it's a

testimonial, he WON'T approve the posting! It seemed a bit strange

to

be told that when his story actually ASKED for comments.

One thing's sure though, I've been researching raw food diets of

late,

and the raw fooders are the healthiest people going. If your insode

is clean, you are well. I would strongly recommend as much raw food

as you can possibly eat along with whatever home made juices you

allow

yourself, (ie depends on if you eat fruits, what type and how much

etc). A favourite with me is 2 big carrots and 2 less sweet apples,

or 3 big carrots and a small bunch of grapes. After doing this for a

couple of days, (is drinking this with my breakfast and putting some

of the fruit pulp on my cereal to make it more bearable), my sinus

problems cleared remarkably. Now, I've never been 100% convinced I

had Candida, (altough I keep it in mind), but this result was

remarkable enough for me to be sure there's something in the raw

foods

things, (after 2 days on 50%+ raw, I felt on top of the world!). So,

I created a new group, which is currently booming. We've been going

only 10 days and have 68 members already. Why not join us? You'll

find it at:

RawFoodsBeginners

See you there as well as here!!

Love and raw foods, beth.

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> is correct that to rid oneself from candida one must avoid

all

> sugars and yeast.

I'm inclined to agree with the naturopath who recommended the raw

food

diet - that refined rubbish feeds Candida. Also, I do believe that

yeast does NOT feed the Candida, rather we are told ot avoid it in

case of allergy or sensitivity, ditto dairy, ditto wheat.

ERB

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In a message dated 00-09-25 08:12:28 EDT, you write:

<<

I'm inclined to agree with the naturopath who recommended the raw

food

diet - that refined rubbish feeds Candida. Also, I do believe that

yeast does NOT feed the Candida, rather we are told ot avoid it in

case of allergy or sensitivity, ditto dairy, ditto wheat.

>>

Most dairy products have lactose in it - a type of sugar and will feed

candida.

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In a message dated 10/1/00 12:34:15 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

ann.williams@... writes:

<< Have most of you guys cut out dairy altogether,>>

I now drink rice milk and soy milk. Takes a little getting used to but the

benefits, for me, far outweigh the strange taste.

Karal

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On 30 Sep 00, at 23:25, AnglGodes1@... wrote:

> Most dairy products have lactose in it - a type of sugar and will feed

> candida.

Have most of you guys cut out dairy altogether, then? I tried, on

three separate ocasions, and felt utterly dreadful without any milk

at all, so now I have small quantities (no more than about 1/4 pint)

skimmed or semi-skimmed milk a day, in decaf tea or barleycup,

and don't tend to have too many problems from it. My homeopath

has told me I can have cottage cheese, as well.

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In a message dated 10/1/00 7:42:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

catherine_holt@... writes:

<< any brands that are sufficiently low-carb? >>

I use RICE DREAM and the carton says 1% fat non-dairy, lactose free.

SOY DREAM is low in sat fat.

They're made by Imagine Foods & they have a website at www.imaginefoods.com.

Karal

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On 30 Sep 00, at 23:25, AnglGodes1@... wrote:

> Most dairy products have lactose in it - a type of sugar and will feed

> candida.

Have most of you guys cut out dairy altogether, then? I tried, on

three separate ocasions, and felt utterly dreadful without any milk

at all, so now I have small quantities (no more than about 1/4 pint)

skimmed or semi-skimmed milk a day, in decaf tea or barleycup,

and don't tend to have too many problems from it.

----

Have you tried Soya milk? A really good substitute, I find!

/Matt

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> I now drink rice milk and soy milk. Takes a little getting used to but

the

> benefits, for me, far outweigh the strange taste.

> Karal

Have you been able to find any brands that are sufficiently low-carb?

Anything that has brown rice syrup in it always tastes so sweet, I'm sure

it's not good for me.

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On 1 Oct 00, at 19:22, Matt Hudson wrote:

> Have you tried Soya milk? A really good substitute, I find!

I use soya milk on cereals etc., and once I'd stopped trying to think

of it as 'milk' I started to quite like it, but if I remove dairy milk from

my diet altogether, I get unutterably ill within a few days. I only

seem to need a small amount to keep me going, but there's

obviously *something* in there that my body needs and can't get

from supplements, and my homeopath has encouraged me to keep

having small amounts of skimmed milk and cottage cheese.

I've tried rice milk as well, but find it far too sweet - I'm sure it's

feeding the beasties!!

Ann

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The only dairy I do is cheese, and I'm starting to think I need to cut that

out too tho it's such a convenient way to get protein. But then my major

symptom is sinus infections, which dairy makes worse.

Louise

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On 30 Sep 00, at 23:25, AnglGodes1@... wrote:

> Most dairy products have lactose in it - a type of sugar and will feed

> candida.

Have most of you guys cut out dairy altogether, then? I tried, on

three separate ocasions, and felt utterly dreadful without any milk

at all, so now I have small quantities (no more than about 1/4 pint)

skimmed or semi-skimmed milk a day, in decaf tea or barleycup,

and don't tend to have too many problems from it. My homeopath

has told me I can have cottage cheese, as well.

Ann

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