Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 I'm not particularly fond of antifungals but they can serve a purpose. A year on nystatin is a very long time. I'd suggest that you take a probiotic and inulin, then you can go off the AF in due course. Olive leaf extract is good, and so is grapefruit seed extract. If you are mineral deficient you can't make your own enzymes. Bowel diseases make people mineral deficient. I'd recommend minerals over enzymes. Sounds like you need a stomach acid boost like betaine or glutamic acid. The stomach can not release food that is under-acidified into the intestine. Duncan Crow > To Duncan > > I was wondering what your thoughts are on nystatin and how long one should > be on this type of AF. Ive been on it now for almost 1 year and am afraid > to stop incase i get sicker. What do u think? Also what do u think of > olive leaf extract as an AF? i was thinking of going on this next. One > more thing...what should i be looking for in a digestive enzyme? Ive been > taking prescription pancreatic enzymes now for some time and i think they > do nothing for me...possible make things worse. MY food just sits in my > stomach for AGES sometimes overnight. any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Sharon: I respect and welcome your personal experience and your work expertise, and I ask that you respond in kind and please try to keep to the topic of health. I didn't attack you, your approach, or your product; I pointed out a couple of contradictions and showed references that support a reason for mentioning them. This is the kind of dialogue our list mates prefer, and decent information sharing and even differences of opinion is the reason our group is the largest and most scientific bowel health group on the Internet. To answer your question on capsule preference, the VSL#3 that several are using on this list is a packet, not capsules, and indeed it's not a product I sell. However, most people on this list I think are getting great results with whatever capsules they bought if they're taking enough of them, and others are getting great results with enteric-coated capsules. This is probably because they are dissolving as they are supposed to. Sure, a few people can't dissolve a gelatine capsule just as a few prefer kefir to OTC probiotics, but generally speaking, gelatine or veggie caps dissolve very quickly. Duncan > > I don't know why you keep trying to put down what other people say > has helped. I used to work for one of the best alternative doctors > in Europe and although she got people out of wheelchairs, cured > pneumonia in a few days instead of weeks and performed other near > miraculous cures, neither her nor any of the other doctors or > naturopaths helped my daughter. We've tried multiple therapies for > yeast, diets, pills, inulin, oligofructose, etc, NONE OF THEM WORKED! > > In-Liven had her pain-free in less than two days and it also got rid > of my Mom's IBS in less than a month. This at a cost of about $65 a > month. > > No study will be able to convince me that this is a placebo since > the effect has lasted. My daughter took the probiotic superfood > until she was healed and now only takes it if she has a stomach ache > which is quite rare. Usually I just give her tissue salts for it. > Her digestion is fine now. > > Studies can be manipulated and there is enough evidence and > thousands of experiences to show that supplementing with ALL the > lactobaccillus does work. > > Why would you recommend a person with a digestive problem like > candida should take capsules? How should they be dissolved so > quickly and absorbed? Digestion starts in the mouth, not the > stomach and many capsules are just excreted without being utilized. > > Please remember that this is a public forum and your putting down > others and trying to outdo them with your own products is an > embarrasement to yourself and will not gain you any credibility. If > this were your private group, it would be entirely another matter. > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 For interest sake, I have had a huge improvement in my health by changing the probiotic that I take. I used to take a 4 strain probiotic with enteric coating. Then I was talked into taking a SBO probiotic with some food based probiotics, but without an enteric coating. We switched recently to a 9 strain probiotic (4 lactobacillus and 4 bifidera and one for lactose intolerance) with enteric coating and the improvement in our health was almost immediate! For those interested, the one I take is by Nutrilida and is called Probiflora Intensive. I don't know if it is only sold locally or internationally. It is not that expensive either. For the first time ever since going on this regime, I've actually cut the amount I spent! Keen Re: To Duncan Sharon: I respect and welcome your personal experience and your work expertise, and I ask that you respond in kind and please try to keep to the topic of health. I didn't attack you, your approach, or your product; I pointed out a couple of contradictions and showed references that support a reason for mentioning them. This is the kind of dialogue our list mates prefer, and decent information sharing and even differences of opinion is the reason our group is the largest and most scientific bowel health group on the Internet. To answer your question on capsule preference, the VSL#3 that several are using on this list is a packet, not capsules, and indeed it's not a product I sell. However, most people on this list I think are getting great results with whatever capsules they bought if they're taking enough of them, and others are getting great results with enteric-coated capsules. This is probably because they are dissolving as they are supposed to. Sure, a few people can't dissolve a gelatine capsule just as a few prefer kefir to OTC probiotics, but generally speaking, gelatine or veggie caps dissolve very quickly. Duncan > > I don't know why you keep trying to put down what other people say > has helped. I used to work for one of the best alternative doctors > in Europe and although she got people out of wheelchairs, cured > pneumonia in a few days instead of weeks and performed other near > miraculous cures, neither her nor any of the other doctors or > naturopaths helped my daughter. We've tried multiple therapies for > yeast, diets, pills, inulin, oligofructose, etc, NONE OF THEM WORKED! > > In-Liven had her pain-free in less than two days and it also got rid > of my Mom's IBS in less than a month. This at a cost of about $65 a > month. > > No study will be able to convince me that this is a placebo since > the effect has lasted. My daughter took the probiotic superfood > until she was healed and now only takes it if she has a stomach ache > which is quite rare. Usually I just give her tissue salts for it. > Her digestion is fine now. > > Studies can be manipulated and there is enough evidence and > thousands of experiences to show that supplementing with ALL the > lactobaccillus does work. > > Why would you recommend a person with a digestive problem like > candida should take capsules? How should they be dissolved so > quickly and absorbed? Digestion starts in the mouth, not the > stomach and many capsules are just excreted without being utilized. > > Please remember that this is a public forum and your putting down > others and trying to outdo them with your own products is an > embarrasement to yourself and will not gain you any credibility. If > this were your private group, it would be entirely another matter. > > Sharon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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