Re: I'm soooooooo tired!!!

[Guest guest]

I was deep down in my bones tired when I went on PD. Six bottles into it

the fatigue started to lift. Then I went on a blood cleansing program and

the fatigue came back. It ebbs and flows. All I can tell you is that if

you took a break from all those things, even just for a week, you would feel

better. If you don't want to take a complete break, try cutting back. You

are using a couple of different agents here that will create die off. Try

not using them all at the same time.

This fatigue really makes it hard to work doesn't it. I kept thinking, I'm

going to have to stop, I can't cope like this. I'm going to lose my job if I

make a big mistake. But mostly, I try to ride it out. The PD I was able

to ride out. The blood cleansing program I took a break from because I

started bruising. I'm back on it now and have no problems.

Good luck whatever you decide to do

Diane

[Guest guest]

A contra indication re: magnesium.

Many of us here have thyroid problems. Lower dosages should still be fine

though

From http://www.thewayup.com/products/0237.htm

High dose magnesium is contraindicated with kidney or adrenal failure &

severe hypothyroidism.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2002 8:05:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

lisaf007@... writes:

> My doctor/nutritionist recommended 400 mg of Magnesium Glycinate at bedtime

> for my fatigue. It helped me sleep more soundly and curbed some of my

> fatigue. It's absorbed best on an empty/acidic stomach, and don't take it

> with calcium because it competes with calcium for absorption.

>

Hi ,

Why do you suppose they sell magnesium and calcium together as a supplement?

Do you think the mag and calcium compete then? I was wondering since I'm

taking that combination.

Thanks

Roni

[Guest guest]

Thanks Diane!!

Roni

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your suggestion . I checked my bottle of

Mega vitamin/mineral and found it has only 25mg of Magnesium

and 100mg of Calcium. I found a link

http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm?ID=2892

and it says:

Calcium and magnesium compete for absorption and so

too much calcium in the

diet will block magnesium absorption.

Our physiological

requirements for calcium to magnesium is

about 2:1. In dairy products

the ratio is 10:1. So, consuming a lot

of dairy products will

induce a magnesium deficiency.

and it also says:

Vitamin D is necessary for the body to utilize magnesium.

The major sources of vitamin

D are dairy products, sunshine on

the skin, and seafoods (at

least 3 servings a week)

So now I understand why Magnesium is sold along with

Calcium. I will look into purchasing a good

Magnesium/Calcium supplement to take along with my Mega

vitamins. The web site also talked about another good way

of getting Magnesium is to soak in Epson Salt. I have this

and will try it later.

After I sent in my I'm so tired post, I had a thought and

possibly another solution to my question. I was on Bowel

Cleanse web site for a while back in January. There was a

lot of talk about Colonics for the problem of fatigue. I

wasn't suffering from fatigue at the time so I put it out of

mind and unsubscribed from the list. Now a colonic seems

just what I need - at least it makes sense - that if I'm

going through a high amount of die-off and the toxins are

being held up in my colon, then the toxins are causing the

symptoms. I think I'll look into this too.

Thank you all for helping me. Are there any other

suggestions out there for ridding the fatigue caused by

die-off? P.S. I've tried a vitamin C flush and this was

good to get rid of headache caused by die-off but it didn't

work on the fatigue. I've never ever felt this tired ever

in my life. I feel for all of you that suffer from CFS. I

just hope it doesn't become permanent with me.

Lilly

[Guest guest]

Diane I can totally understand. I've recently moved to a

new state and have been looking for a new job lately. I'm

afraid that my tired look might keep me from getting a job.

I've been on a few interviews and I've tripped on my own

feet just walking into the office. I know they can see my

tiredness and dragging body and it ill's me to think this

may keep me from getting hired. I have to do something that

will work really quick as I have two job interviews next

week. I have a feeling I need a major flush of some kind to

get rid of the toxin build up. I don't want to cut back on

what I'm using which actually I'm only taking Grapefruit

Seed Extract and a low dose at that. The other stuff is

just vitamins and a some detoxing herbs. I think the

detoxing stuff isn't working and I'll have to look for other

ways to detox. Or, maybe the detoxing herbs are working too

good and my colon is swamped with the toxins that were

removed from my body, hmmmm. I keep going back to the idea

that I may need a colonic. Hope I can find out how to get

one.

Thanks for your help.

Lilly

Diane Trudeau wrote:

> This fatigue really makes it hard to work doesn't it.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your suggestions.

I been following a pretty strict candida diet since the

beginning of this year and have eliminated all sugars,

dairy, potatoes, mushrooms, white rice, fruit, and wheat.

Occasionally I'll cheat and have a little bit of pure maple

syrup and real salad dressing (but not together LOL). The

only flours I'm eating are spelt, brown rice flour, and

buckwheat. I think what I have managed to do is to create a

major die-off without a proper way to eliminate the

toxins. I'd like to hear more on ways to detox or to clean

the body of toxin build up.

Lilly

Withers wrote:

> I

> overcame my chronic fatigue by changing my diet to include

> no refined sugars

> or flours.

[Guest guest]

Here is a test for you . To see if you get this email. There were

more than 4 today, I can guarantee that.

[Guest guest]

Lilly,

I was going back through my bookmarks and came across this site about candida

and colonics.

http://www.wholeapproach.com/

[Guest guest]

Sorry, wrong site. I give up - too many bookmarks... I'll look for the site I

remember discussing candida and colonics...