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I was reading in a book today Alistair that if you cut out carbohydrates

from your diet you can suffer from a deep depression. I certainly felt

awful all year while on a strict diet. Now Im having carbos, bread,pasta

and I feel much better. Probably not good for the candida though.

Kate

At 23:29 16/01/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant shake and its by fast

>the one that is the most debilitating.

>

>I have tried so many things .. and even though it has gotten slightly

>better... It has not improved nearly as much as my other symptoms.

>

>I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to do ..

>Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can think of

>when it comes to depression?

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It might be interesting for you to have a look at this page:

http://www.emofree.com/

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> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:29:21 -0000

> From: " almr.rm " <almr@...>

> Subject: Depression ... - Running out of ideas

>

> This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant shake and its by fast

> the one that is the most debilitating.

>

> I have tried so many things .. and even though it has gotten slightly

> better... It has not improved nearly as much as my other symptoms.

>

> I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to do ..

> Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can think of

> when it comes to depression?

>

> thanks so much ..

>

> all the best to you all

>

> Alistair

>

>

>

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It might be interesting for you to have a look at this page:

http://www.emofree.com/

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> Message: 2

> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:29:21 -0000

> From: " almr.rm " <almr@...>

> Subject: Depression ... - Running out of ideas

>

> This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant shake and its by fast

> the one that is the most debilitating.

>

> I have tried so many things .. and even though it has gotten slightly

> better... It has not improved nearly as much as my other symptoms.

>

> I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to do ..

> Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can think of

> when it comes to depression?

>

> thanks so much ..

>

> all the best to you all

>

> Alistair

>

>

>

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My Chinese doctor performed EFT on me just once, but I did notice

that I felt better. He did it for stress, and I definetly felt more

relaxed. A rather strange procedure, but no pain.

Also, sometimes it is the hardest thing to do when you don't feel

good, but I have found that exercise helps me tremendously. I too,

suffer from serious depression, but just finding that there may be a

reason for it (Candidiasis) I have hope. I also take Celexa, a anti-

depessive med which really helps.

Good luck.

In candidiasis@y..., " almr.rm " <almr@r...> wrote:

> This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant shake and its by

fast

> the one that is the most debilitating.

>

> I have tried so many things .. and even though it has gotten

slightly

> better... It has not improved nearly as much as my other symptoms.

>

> I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to do ..

> Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can think of

> when it comes to depression?

>

> thanks so much ..

>

> all the best to you all

>

> Alistair

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Hi Alistair

Did your depression began during the winter months? If so,

you may have Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD). Here is a

web site that will help explain this and offer you some

benefits by using light therapy.

http://www.ncpamd.com/seasonal.htm

I learned I suffered from SAD in 1989 and since then I have

learned how to stop it in its track before it eats me up. I

have a shop light, you know, the type you can buy in Walmart

for around $10.00. I hung the shop light over my bed

because I like to read and do school work on my bed - it is

important you get a few hours of light therapy every day to

benefit. Then I bought two fluorescent tubes for the

shoplight. Make sure the lights you buy are " FULL

SPECTRUM " . This means it provides a full spectrum of color,

almost like the real sun. You can do a search on the

internet for SAD and come up with many sites willing to sell

you their lamps that may be well into the hundreds but I

learned a $20.00 creation works just as well.

Also, are you taking any B-complex? Especially B6? Check

out this web site for information on overcoming depression

with B-complex.

http://www.wholehealthdiscountcenter.com/vb/

Lilly

" almr.rm " wrote:

>

> I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to

> do ..

> Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can

> think of

> when it comes to depression?

>

> thanks so much ..

>

> all the best to you all

>

> Alistair

>

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EFT is an emotional form of acupuncture except that no

needles are used. Instead, they tap with the

fingertips to stimulate certain meridian points while

you are " tuned in " to the problem. They are still

learning why EFT (and its many cousins) work so well.

The existing theory is that " the cause of all negative

emotions is a disruption in the body's energy system. "

EFT has been proven clinically effective (over 80%)

for Trauma, Abuse, Stress, Anxiety, Fears, Phobias,

Depression, Grief, Addictive Cravings, Children's

Issues and hundreds of physical symptoms including

headaches, body pains and breathing difficulties.

I find this to be very interesting.

--- dianatrudeau@... wrote:

> What is EFT? And depression can be treated in

> different ways,

> depending on what is causing it.

> I had good luck with my " therapist " who gave me some

> coping skills that

> worked well enough to get you through the day.

>

> Re: Depression ... - Running

> out of ideas

>

> > My Chinese doctor performed EFT on me just once,

> but I did notice

> > that I felt better. He did it for stress, and I

> definetly felt

> > more

> > relaxed. A rather strange procedure, but no pain.

> >

> > Also, sometimes it is the hardest thing to do when

> you don't feel

> > good, but I have found that exercise helps me

> tremendously. I too,

> > suffer from serious depression, but just finding

> that there may be

> > a

> > reason for it (Candidiasis) I have hope. I also

> take Celexa, a

> > anti-

> > depessive med which really helps.

> >

> > Good luck.

> >

> > In candidiasis@y..., " almr.rm " <almr@r...> wrote:

> > > This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant

> shake and its by

> > fast

> > > the one that is the most debilitating.

> > >

> > > I have tried so many things .. and even though

> it has gotten

> > slightly

> > > better... It has not improved nearly as much as

> my other symptoms.

> > >

> > > I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really

> know what to do ..

> > > Please could you all give me ideas as to

> anything you can think

> > of

> > > when it comes to depression?

> > >

> > > thanks so much ..

> > >

> > > all the best to you all

> > >

> > > Alistair

> >

> >

> >

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I had it only once for stress, but I did feel

different (more relaxed, so I am going to ask the doc

about it again.

Could you send me the article you have??

Thanks.

--- dianatrudeau@... wrote:

> Now I know where I heard the term before. I have an

> 80 page article

> about it and how to do it stored on my computer. So

> you say it really

> works??? Well dang, I'll dig it up and try it out.

> Thanks

>

> Re: Depression ... -

> Running

> > > out of ideas

> > >

> > > > My Chinese doctor performed EFT on me just

> once,

> > > but I did notice

> > > > that I felt better. He did it for stress, and

> I

> > > definetly felt

> > > > more

> > > > relaxed. A rather strange procedure, but no

> pain.

> > > >

> > > > Also, sometimes it is the hardest thing to do

> when

> > > you don't feel

> > > > good, but I have found that exercise helps me

> > > tremendously. I too,

> > > > suffer from serious depression, but just

> finding

> > > that there may be

> > > > a

> > > > reason for it (Candidiasis) I have hope. I

> also

> > > take Celexa, a

> > > > anti-

> > > > depessive med which really helps.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck.

> > > >

> > > > In candidiasis@y..., " almr.rm " <almr@r...>

> wrote:

> > > > > This is my main symptom ... its the one I

> cant

> > > shake and its by

> > > > fast

> > > > > the one that is the most debilitating.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have tried so many things .. and even

> though

> > > it has gotten

> > > > slightly

> > > > > better... It has not improved nearly as much

> as

> > > my other symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont

> really

> > > know what to do ..

> > > > > Please could you all give me ideas as to

> > > anything you can think

> > > > of

> > > > > when it comes to depression?

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks so much ..

> > > > >

> > > > > all the best to you all

> > > > >

> > > > > Alistair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I've tried St. 's Worts in combination with 5-HTP or Kava Kava

and both worked well. I've also tried Super 1A from my naturopath.

It is a neurotransmitter support supplement and has many amino acids,

5-HTP, etc. in it. It is said to work well for many with depression,

but I didn't have that great of results with it because it didn't do

much for my anxiety, which was just as debilitating as the

depression. Taking Enzymatic Therapy's multi-vitamin for Women

helped immensely.

However, the only thing that has helped me the most with depression

and anxiety has been my chronic fatigue treatment. Chronic fatigue

and candida are very much related - one can cause the other and

create an endless cycle downhill. You may want to get tested for

that. I have been following the treatment of Dr. Poesnecker. You

can check out his website at: www.chronicfatigue.org

He's very good and very knowledgeable....also a non-profit,

naturopathic doctor/chiropractor, his treatments are relatively

inexpensive. He's willing to work with you over the phone or e-

mail. He believes in treating candida with CFS and can help you with

both if you have it.

The initial test he uses is a Saliva Test to tell you if you have CFS

and what stage you're in. The lab analysis costs $99 and that has

been the most expensive part of the treatment so far. Otherwise, I

spend between $25 and $50/mo. on the supplements. I've only been

taking them for about 6 weeks, but I feel SOOO much better already.

Let me know if you want more info.

> This is my main symptom ... its the one I cant shake and its by

fast

> the one that is the most debilitating.

>

> I have tried so many things .. and even though it has gotten

slightly

> better... It has not improved nearly as much as my other symptoms.

>

> I have tried st. johns wort ... I dont really know what to do ..

> Please could you all give me ideas as to anything you can think of

> when it comes to depression?

>

> thanks so much ..

>

> all the best to you all

>

> Alistair

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