Re: High protein diet

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In a message dated 12/22/99 5:30:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,

mbaird@... writes:

<< I have been on the high protein / low carb diet since the end of September.

It has definitely helped my candida symptoms and I got the added bonus of

losing 14 pounds >>

Depends how you do it. A high fat diet is not healthy in any context.

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Dear Anne:

Different people respond differently to the various diets. Some do well on

high protien and low carbs; others on high carb/low protein. Still others

do well on both, but at different times in their life. This is why:

There are two main mechanisms at work in metabolism:

1) How fast the digestive system processes food (metabolic rate) and 2) how

fast the cells burn the digestive products (the oxidative rate)

These processes can be

1 Fast- 2. Fast, or

1. Slow- 2. Slow

or a combination 1. Fast- 2.Slow or 1. Slow - 2. Fast.

If someone is slow/slow, then they do not need to be putting the equivalent

of lots of ' wood logs' (proteins) into their 'furnace' because that will

burn up too slow. They need relatively more carbohydrates. That is why these

people do best with a greater amount of carbohydrates in their diets.

However, some proteins are essential. These people tend to be thin and

never seem to gain much weight. Metabolically they are classified as Type 1.

If someone is fast/fast, then they do not need to be putting the equivalent

of lots of 'paper plates' (carbohydrates) into their 'furnace' because that

will burn up too fast. They need relatively more protein (logs wich burn

slowly). That is why these people do best with a greater amount of protein

in their diets. However, some carbohydrates are essential. These people

tend to gain weight easily (because their diets contain more carbohydrates

than they need, it burns too fastwhich results in too much glucose in the

blood and so the insulin (door keeper to the cells) deposits the excess, as

fat, into the cells of the body. Metabolically they are classified as Type 2.

Other people are a combination of either fast/slow or slow/fast. Sometimes

they do best with more protein,and at other times they do best with more

carbohydrates. They are Type 3.

Diets like those advocated by Pritikin, Ornish, McDougall and others are low

fat/high carb diets. The type 1 slow/slow people rave about how well this

type of diet works for them.

Diets like those advocated by Atkins, Scarsdale, Carbohydrtae Addict's,

Stillman and Endocrine Control are all high protein, low carb diets. These

work primarily for the fast burners.

A really great little book that goes into a lot more detail about these

things is that by Ann Louise Gittleman " Your Body Knows Best " . ISBN

0-671-87591-4

An easy way to determine which is your " metabolic profile " is to do the

questionnaire at

http://www.mannatech-inc.com/PRDProfile.asp

I hope this is helpful

Russ

>From: " Baird " <mbaird@...>

>

>> Try high protien and low carbs. Apparantly, they say that this type of

>> eating is best for all people.

>> a

>

>I have been on the high protein / low carb diet since the end of September.

>It has definitely helped my candida symptoms and I got the added bonus of

>losing 14 pounds.

>

>Anne

>

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In a message dated 12/22/99 11:24:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,

mbaird@... writes:

<< Thanks for the information, Russ! I wish I had known about all this years

ago. I used to eat high carb / low fat and exercise like crazy. I was

always tired and couldn't lose any weight. (I need to lose about 20

pounds). Now I eat high protein / low carb and I have all kinds of energy.

It's a new way of life for me. I am on the Atkins Diet. My mom remains

skeptical, but we go home for Christmas and she'll see the 14 pounds gone.

(I didn't even exercise!)

Hugs,

Anne >>

Problem is, many people gain it back. The human body isn't made to operate on

such a diet for long periods of time.

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> Different people respond differently to the various diets. Some do well

on

> high protien and low carbs; others on high carb/low protein.

Thanks for the information, Russ! I wish I had known about all this years

ago. I used to eat high carb / low fat and exercise like crazy. I was

always tired and couldn't lose any weight. (I need to lose about 20

pounds). Now I eat high protein / low carb and I have all kinds of energy.

It's a new way of life for me. I am on the Atkins Diet. My mom remains

skeptical, but we go home for Christmas and she'll see the 14 pounds gone.

(I didn't even exercise!)

Hugs,

Anne

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In a message dated 12/24/99 8:46:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,

rcrosby@... writes:

<< Problem is " Darling " hasn't a clue as to how to keep it off. Mannatech's

>>

Heh That's prett funny...have you seen a picture of me?

Check it out at Http://darlingdemoniac.com. I'm in the red pants on the left.

As you can see I am in excellent shape. I eat right and exercise, the results

speak for themselves. You're grasping at straws, Russ. Why insult me for

pointing out that you are a salesman, it is true.

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>Problem is, many people gain it back. The human body isn't made to operate on

>such a diet for long periods of time.>

Problem is " Darling " hasn't a clue as to how to keep it off. Mannatech's

GlycoLean lean body system has solved that problem. Only our Mensa card

carrying pal is ignorant of that fact!! The 'set point' problem has

actually been solved and is no longer an issue for those who know what they

are doing when they start a weight loss program. The Glyco Lean System is

designed to optimize health and when that happens, weight stays off.

Russ

>From: DarlingDemoniac@...

>

>In a message dated 12/22/99 11:24:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>mbaird@... writes:

>

><< Thanks for the information, Russ! I wish I had known about all this years

> ago. I used to eat high carb / low fat and exercise like crazy. I was

> always tired and couldn't lose any weight. (I need to lose about 20

> pounds). Now I eat high protein / low carb and I have all kinds of energy.

> It's a new way of life for me. I am on the Atkins Diet. My mom remains

> skeptical, but we go home for Christmas and she'll see the 14 pounds gone.

> (I didn't even exercise!)

>

> Hugs,

> Anne >>

>Problem is, many people gain it back. The human body isn't made to operate on

>such a diet for long periods of time.

>

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from one mensa card holder to another..why on earth have you mutulated your body

.. I

remember one post you wrote saying something about people being jealous of you,

that you

are a model ..bla bla bla...

For what a halloween or porn magazine? I personally wouldnt want my daughter

getting her

claim to fame making snuff films.

You're a real winner. This saint prays that God will have mercy on your soul.

Sincerely,

da saint

DarlingDemoniac@... wrote:

> From: DarlingDemoniac@...

>

> In a message dated 12/24/99 8:46:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> rcrosby@... writes:

>

> << Problem is " Darling " hasn't a clue as to how to keep it off. Mannatech's

> >>

> Heh That's prett funny...have you seen a picture of me?

> Check it out at Http://darlingdemoniac.com. I'm in the red pants on the left.

> As you can see I am in excellent shape. I eat right and exercise, the results

> speak for themselves. You're grasping at straws, Russ. Why insult me for

> pointing out that you are a salesman, it is true.

>

> > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to

UNSUBSCRIBE !

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>

> Dear Bee,

> I've read nearly all your files now and feel as though I have found

> what I need to get better. I have increased my protein and eat

protein and vegetables with just a little brown rice each day.

> I am prepared to try and cut down on the brown rice more - whatever

it takes.

==>Hi Amy. Good for you on changing your diet. The sooner you get

off the brown rice the better off you will be. 58% of protein and

10% of good saturated fats turns into carbs or blood sugar in the

body.

> My only worry with this is some scare story I read about a girl on

the > atkins diet who had a heart attack after being on the diet for

a month. > Does being on a protein/low carb diet increase your risk

and put strain > on your heart?

==>Absolutely not. Here's some information which is enlightening

because good teeth and bones is a great indicator of good health:

AGRICULTURE & BAD TEETH

The Director of the National Museum in Iceland says that it is

definitely established that during 600 years, 1200 to 1800 in

Iceland, there were no dental cavities. The foods they ate were milk

and milk products, mutton, beef and fish. They ate no carbohydrate.

The only exception to this was a little moss soup in the summer, but

this was a rare " fun food " of little nutritional importance. Two

Indian tribes reveal the same thing.

The prehistoric Indians of California were vegetarians, unlike most

folks of that period, and they had tooth decay. In contrast, the

Sioux Indians lived on buffalo meat and were devoid of cavities. The

Pueblos worshipped the Corn God, but he was not grateful. They have

the most wretched teeth of all the American Indian tribes. They live

on corn, squash and beans. The Laplanders, who ate mostly reindeer

meat during the 18th century, rarely had cavities. Modern laps have a

decay rate of 85% of their teeth.

==>Also Dr. Jan K. in Poland has been curing people of heart disease

on high protein and good saturated fats and low carbs for over 30

years - see the website in the Candida Diet Folder which is in the

files on Ratios.

The best in health,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

I was wondering what is the source of your information here? I didn't

know that California Indians were vegetarians. There were several

tribes of course. I worked on an archaeological project with the

Cahuilla Indians. They ate meat.

==>Absolutely not. Here's some information which is enlightening

because good teeth and bones is a great indicator of good health:

AGRICULTURE & BAD TEETH

The Director of the National Museum in Iceland says that it is

definitely established that during 600 years, 1200 to 1800 in

Iceland, there were no dental cavities. The foods they ate were milk

and milk products, mutton, beef and fish. They ate no carbohydrate.

The only exception to this was a little moss soup in the summer, but

this was a rare " fun food " of little nutritional importance. Two

Indian tribes reveal the same thing.

The prehistoric Indians of California were vegetarians, unlike most

folks of that period, and they had tooth decay. In contrast, the

Sioux Indians lived on buffalo meat and were devoid of cavities. The

Pueblos worshipped the Corn God, but he was not grateful. They have

the most wretched teeth of all the American Indian tribes. They live

on corn, squash and beans. The Laplanders, who ate mostly reindeer

meat during the 18th century, rarely had cavities. Modern laps have a

decay rate of 85% of their teeth.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,>

> I was wondering what is the source of your information here? I

didn't> know that California Indians were vegetarians. There were

several> tribes of course. I worked on an archaeological project with

the> Cahuilla Indians. They ate meat.

==>The source of my information is a group at The Optimal Diet website;

this was posted by a very well-known orthomolecular physician, Herbert

N. (can't recall his last name).

Bee