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In a message dated 1/13/01 6:12:17 PM Central Standard Time,

2moons@... writes:

<< What other herbs are good

antifungal herbs for this. I know of garlic...what else. >>

OIl of Oregano

Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE)

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Oregon Grape tea is antifungal as well as antibiotic.

take it no longer than 1 week. You cant find this in

capsules. You must order it in a bulk form and

brew it. I get die-off when I drink it. LIZ

Caffeine and Capyrilic Acid

I have a couple questions...

Why is caffeine bad for candida?

Also, how much caprylic acid is everyone taking for the candida? One of my

books said 1000mg. after every meal. I just wondered what the consensus on

this was. What is everyone else doing.

I have tried Pau D' Arco without much luck. What other herbs are good

antifungal herbs for this. I know of garlic...what else.

Thanks everyone!

moons

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On 13 Jan 2001, at 16:15, 2moons wrote:

> Why is caffeine bad for candida?

It causes spikes in blood sugar, which feed the candida, and puts

a strain on the kidneys and adrenals when the body is getting rid of

it. Also it tends to be consumed in the form of coffee, which

acidifies the system and encourages candida. It's not nice stuff.

When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was

the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and

horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine

at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest, either!

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> > Why is caffeine bad for candida?

>

> When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was

> the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and

> horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine

> at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest,

> either!

Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of

Caffeine or your homeopath? I suppose with that kind of reaction

it's not a difficult decision to make.

I read here:

http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#6.6

that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut

and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Not a good thing

for anyone, but especially people with a yeast overgrowth.

Debs

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Thank you for the information. I didn't know that caffeine destroyed the

friendly bacteria. That is good info. Here's to making another dietary

change.

Now as far as the caprylic acid...is my 1000mg after each meal an adequate

amount? Or has someone else had a better experience with a different dosage?

Thanks all,

moons

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Caffeine was the first to go for me too. one cup of coffee, tea or even a small

amount of

chocolate would get me so nervous that it would build up to a panic attack.

Even decaf

coffee will get to me if I have more than just a couple cups

Deborah Wade wrote:

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>

> > > Why is caffeine bad for candida?

> >

>

> > When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was

> > the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and

> > horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine

> > at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest,

> > either!

>

> Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of

> Caffeine or your homeopath? I suppose with that kind of reaction

> it's not a difficult decision to make.

>

> I read here:

> http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#6.6

>

> that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut

> and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Not a good thing

> for anyone, but especially people with a yeast overgrowth.

>

> Debs

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On 14 Jan 2001, at 20:56, Deborah Wade wrote:

> Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of

> Caffeine or your homeopath?

me entirely - this was a good 5 years before I got any sort of

treatment at all. I cut it out as I got iller, in an attempt to de-tox.

Made no discernible difference, so I thought 'OK, we'll bring that

back in'. My gran was in hospital at the time, and I had a small cup

of weak hospital tea when visiting her - you'd have thought I'd just

downed a large shot of whisky spiked with heaven-knows-what.

Within literally ten minutes I was drunk, dizzy, sounds were too

loud, I couldn't follow conversations, and I had to be driven home

sharpish!! That was me and caffeine finished.

> that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut

> and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it.

Didn't know it was that dramatic - thanks! More evidence to steer

clear of it.

Ann

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Hi Ann. Many sportsmen use to consume caffeine to improve their

performance while training. The training books do not warn against the

contrary effects of caffeine. Do you know any kind of literature warning

about the side effects of caffeine?. Greetings.

Claudio

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Subject: Re: Re: Caffeine and Capyrilic Acid

Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:18:10 -0000

On 14 Jan 2001, at 20:56, Deborah Wade wrote:

> Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of

> Caffeine or your homeopath?

me entirely - this was a good 5 years before I got any sort of

treatment at all. I cut it out as I got iller, in an attempt to de-tox.

Made no discernible difference, so I thought 'OK, we'll bring that

back in'. My gran was in hospital at the time, and I had a small cup

of weak hospital tea when visiting her - you'd have thought I'd just

downed a large shot of whisky spiked with heaven-knows-what.

Within literally ten minutes I was drunk, dizzy, sounds were too

loud, I couldn't follow conversations, and I had to be driven home

sharpish!! That was me and caffeine finished.

> that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut

> and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it.

Didn't know it was that dramatic - thanks! More evidence to steer

clear of it.

Ann

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A great many people with candida problems have concurrent problems.

Leaky gut is typical, in which case your endocrine system is taxed

enough. Why add a toxic stimulant on top of all this?

If you have a candida problem, rather drastic dietary measures are

required, or you will not eradicate it. You're not going to " take a

pill " and get rid of it. It requires discipline and changed lifestyle

of eating.

KB

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I am on a drastic diet and have been for many months. I am still learning

the can and can't haves on the diet. I was wondering about antifungal herbs

and such to help me along with this journey. I have cut out all wheat,

pasta, white rice, now caffeine, etc.(am now eating organic brown rice in

small portions. I am basically on a vegetable and meat diet. Learning from

this list new foods to add.

I am learning a lot from everyone on this list. I know that " taking a pill "

won't be the cure all, but if it will help kill off the yeast... I am

game...:) Anything to help this along.

My lifestyle change and eating different began 6 LONG, LONG months ago. But

still trying and still learning. Appreciate all the advice.

Thanks!! :)))))))

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A great many people with candida problems have concurrent problems.

Leaky gut is typical, in which case your endocrine system is taxed

enough. Why add a toxic stimulant on top of all this?

If you have a candida problem, rather drastic dietary measures are

required, or you will not eradicate it. You're not going to " take a

pill " and get rid of it. It requires discipline and changed lifestyle

of eating.

KB

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