Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 In a message dated 1/13/01 6:12:17 PM Central Standard Time, 2moons@... writes: << What other herbs are good antifungal herbs for this. I know of garlic...what else. >> OIl of Oregano Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 Oregon Grape tea is antifungal as well as antibiotic. take it no longer than 1 week. You cant find this in capsules. You must order it in a bulk form and brew it. I get die-off when I drink it. LIZ Caffeine and Capyrilic Acid I have a couple questions... Why is caffeine bad for candida? Also, how much caprylic acid is everyone taking for the candida? One of my books said 1000mg. after every meal. I just wondered what the consensus on this was. What is everyone else doing. I have tried Pau D' Arco without much luck. What other herbs are good antifungal herbs for this. I know of garlic...what else. Thanks everyone! moons Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 On 13 Jan 2001, at 16:15, 2moons wrote: > Why is caffeine bad for candida? It causes spikes in blood sugar, which feed the candida, and puts a strain on the kidneys and adrenals when the body is getting rid of it. Also it tends to be consumed in the form of coffee, which acidifies the system and encourages candida. It's not nice stuff. When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest, either! Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 > > Why is caffeine bad for candida? > > When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was > the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and > horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine > at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest, > either! Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of Caffeine or your homeopath? I suppose with that kind of reaction it's not a difficult decision to make. I read here: http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#6.6 that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Not a good thing for anyone, but especially people with a yeast overgrowth. Debs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Thank you for the information. I didn't know that caffeine destroyed the friendly bacteria. That is good info. Here's to making another dietary change. Now as far as the caprylic acid...is my 1000mg after each meal an adequate amount? Or has someone else had a better experience with a different dosage? Thanks all, moons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Caffeine was the first to go for me too. one cup of coffee, tea or even a small amount of chocolate would get me so nervous that it would build up to a panic attack. Even decaf coffee will get to me if I have more than just a couple cups Deborah Wade wrote: > > > > > Why is caffeine bad for candida? > > > > > When I first got ill, and logn before i was diagnosed, caffeine was > > the first thing that had to go - I was getting rolling drunk and > > horribly panicky on one cup of coffee, so I've not had any caffeine > > at all for about 6 years now. Don't miss it in the slightest, > > either! > > Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of > Caffeine or your homeopath? I suppose with that kind of reaction > it's not a difficult decision to make. > > I read here: > http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm#6.6 > > that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut > and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Not a good thing > for anyone, but especially people with a yeast overgrowth. > > Debs > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 moons. Coffee & some teas during the processing of drying they get moldy, The mold is the part that isn't good for you. Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 On 14 Jan 2001, at 20:56, Deborah Wade wrote: > Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of > Caffeine or your homeopath? me entirely - this was a good 5 years before I got any sort of treatment at all. I cut it out as I got iller, in an attempt to de-tox. Made no discernible difference, so I thought 'OK, we'll bring that back in'. My gran was in hospital at the time, and I had a small cup of weak hospital tea when visiting her - you'd have thought I'd just downed a large shot of whisky spiked with heaven-knows-what. Within literally ten minutes I was drunk, dizzy, sounds were too loud, I couldn't follow conversations, and I had to be driven home sharpish!! That was me and caffeine finished. > that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut > and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Didn't know it was that dramatic - thanks! More evidence to steer clear of it. Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Hi Ann. Many sportsmen use to consume caffeine to improve their performance while training. The training books do not warn against the contrary effects of caffeine. Do you know any kind of literature warning about the side effects of caffeine?. Greetings. Claudio From: " Ann " <ann.williams@...> Reply-candidiasisegroups candidiasisegroups Subject: Re: Re: Caffeine and Capyrilic Acid Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:18:10 -0000 On 14 Jan 2001, at 20:56, Deborah Wade wrote: > Doesn't sound good Ann. Was it you that decided to get rid of > Caffeine or your homeopath? me entirely - this was a good 5 years before I got any sort of treatment at all. I cut it out as I got iller, in an attempt to de-tox. Made no discernible difference, so I thought 'OK, we'll bring that back in'. My gran was in hospital at the time, and I had a small cup of weak hospital tea when visiting her - you'd have thought I'd just downed a large shot of whisky spiked with heaven-knows-what. Within literally ten minutes I was drunk, dizzy, sounds were too loud, I couldn't follow conversations, and I had to be driven home sharpish!! That was me and caffeine finished. > that Caffeine destroys up to 75% of the friendly bacteria in the gut > and can take the body around 5 hours to replace it. Didn't know it was that dramatic - thanks! More evidence to steer clear of it. Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 A great many people with candida problems have concurrent problems. Leaky gut is typical, in which case your endocrine system is taxed enough. Why add a toxic stimulant on top of all this? If you have a candida problem, rather drastic dietary measures are required, or you will not eradicate it. You're not going to " take a pill " and get rid of it. It requires discipline and changed lifestyle of eating. KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2001 Report Share Posted January 16, 2001 I am on a drastic diet and have been for many months. I am still learning the can and can't haves on the diet. I was wondering about antifungal herbs and such to help me along with this journey. I have cut out all wheat, pasta, white rice, now caffeine, etc.(am now eating organic brown rice in small portions. I am basically on a vegetable and meat diet. Learning from this list new foods to add. I am learning a lot from everyone on this list. I know that " taking a pill " won't be the cure all, but if it will help kill off the yeast... I am game... Anything to help this along. My lifestyle change and eating different began 6 LONG, LONG months ago. But still trying and still learning. Appreciate all the advice. Thanks!! )))))) ********************************* A great many people with candida problems have concurrent problems. Leaky gut is typical, in which case your endocrine system is taxed enough. Why add a toxic stimulant on top of all this? If you have a candida problem, rather drastic dietary measures are required, or you will not eradicate it. You're not going to " take a pill " and get rid of it. It requires discipline and changed lifestyle of eating. KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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