Any suggestions

[Guest guest]

The only relief I have found is through acupuncture.

If I can afford it, a series of 10 to 12 treatments

can ease my pain for a few months. During that time I

don't need any RX pain meds, unless I overdo it. The

Rx pain meds I have are Percocet, Ultram and Valium

(for the neck spasms).

Lee

--- TediBrLuv@... wrote:

> Hi folks,

>

> I am wondering if anyone has any tried and true

> methods for relieving neck

> and shoulder pain.

> I have battled this for years and can't take any

> muscle relaxers bcause of

> other problems. Today I am about ready to lose my

> mind. I can not sit or

> lie comfortably. The knots are so bad I can feel

> them just running my hand

> across them.

> My SO is out of town so he can't give me a massage

> which usually helps. Due

> to frozen shoulders I can't reach back to rub much

> on my own.

> I am sure it is stress, but it makes the migraine

> worse and I am ready to

> scream.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/9/00 5:10:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

country_desire@... writes:

<< It sounds like your pain is very close to mine. You

should contact your doctor.

Well, Jo, that is all I know. I had the same problem

and some simple exercises helped.

Good Luck,

Leigh >>

Leigh

My neck and shoulder pain are the result of a car accident years ago. Just

every once in a while, when I am overly stressed and end up sleeping wrong,

or not sleeping, the pain comes back. The muscles are full of huge knots and

it is just miserable.

I have exercises, but unfortunately at the moment I am dealing with frozen

shoulders so the exercises are not possible.

It will only last a few days, but I was really stressed and was looking for a

" quick fix " last night - you know something somebody does that makes them

relax right away. Just desperate and not realistic. By the time I can get

in to the clinic it will be fine until the next stressful time.

Thanks for reminding me that if it doesn't get better I need to check to be

sure it isn't something new.

Jo

[Guest guest]

Howdy Jo,

I am not sure exactly what is wrong with your neck and

shoulders. I have a lower back injury with arthritis

and I started having pain in my neck and shoulder like

how your pains sounds like. The doctor told me that

from my back injury, my muscles were getting weak. I

had lost close to %40 of my strenght which caused some

of the pain in my shoulders and neck because I just

wasn't strong anymore. They also told me that I might

have a pinch nerve. The doctor gave me certain

exercises to strenghten my shoulder, shoulder blades,

and neck. They were hard and painful to do but I felt

the affect within a week. After a few weeks, the pain

had improven. I do not do the exercises anymore, but

i start doing them when the pain comes back. The

doctor also said that if I did have a pinch nerve, the

exercises could very likely help.

It sounds like your pain is very close to mine. You

should contact your doctor.

Well, Jo, that is all I know. I had the same problem

and some simple exercises helped.

Good Luck,

Leigh

--- TediBrLuv@... wrote:

> Hi folks,

>

> I am wondering if anyone has any tried and true

> methods for relieving neck

> and shoulder pain.

> I have battled this for years and can't take any

> muscle relaxers bcause of

> other problems. Today I am about ready to lose my

> mind. I can not sit or

> lie comfortably. The knots are so bad I can feel

> them just running my hand

> across them.

> My SO is out of town so he can't give me a massage

> which usually helps. Due

> to frozen shoulders I can't reach back to rub much

> on my own.

> I am sure it is stress, but it makes the migraine

> worse and I am ready to

> scream.

>

> Any ideas?????

> Jo

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

I had a car accident too about 6 years ago now and have the same problem with my neck and shoulders.

As for relief when it gets shooting lying flat on my back on the floor with knees bent eases it for a bit. I am studying aromatherapy so I have a bath blend that is great cause it puts me to sleep coz I relax so much, not a good look coz I have trouble getting to the bed without falling asleep on the way.

When I was having pysio for it they suggested I buy a tens machine, which is where you stick these little bits of rubber to the area it hurts and attach them with wires to a walkman looking thing and it sends pulses thru the pads. My mum has it now and raves about it. Personally didn't get on to well with it, coz I was university at the time and I would always catch the strength button (like the volume dial) and whack it up to high in the middle of a lecture. It really was not a good look me leaping in the air then trying to explain that I put the vibration on to high by accident!! LOL

Would Joe by up for doing some massage or maybe you get get a blend and do it your self, you could just rub the oil on the skin in that area and would give some relief. Where abouts are you?

Then of course there is the really none helpful suggestion of relax more!!! Hehe! Again oils can help with this, in a bath or burning. But by the time it hurts it is too late to relax coz it hurts too much, know exactly how you feel.

Don't think that was much help but at least you know you are not the only one,

Take care

Lots of love

Nerys

[Guest guest]

Either stress or age can be the reason for your sudden thyroid

insufficiency. Weight gain does not automatically go with

hypothyroidism . . . it didn't for me. Did your doctor mention

Hashimoto's thyroiditis to you? If you have Hashi's (as I do) then

there's a good chance that your thyroid will progressively lose more

of its function over time. What would possibly be wrong with taking

thyroxin? I've been taking it daily for over 20 years and have found

it very easy to live with. I just have to make sure that I don't run

out.

There are certain foods you might want to avoid since they are

goitrogenic. Go to

hypothyroidism/messages and read

message 2972. There's also a lot of other good information in the

message archive.

Best wishes,

Celeste

dazslim66 wrote:

> Hi All - I've just found out that I have low thyroid levels - very

> slightly I think but will know more when I see the doctor in a few

> days. Briefly, I'm a bit shocked although it runs in the family my

> sister and 2 children take thyroxin. I am 50 so assume it is age

> related. What are the symptoms - I may have put on a little bit of

> weight but am still slim. I have had an incredible amount of stress

> over the past 7 or 8 months. Can it caused by stress? I have

> recently had a virus (flu like - now recovered and back at work)

> other than that I am fit (work out in the gym), eat well, have a

> daughter of 11. I do feel tired but put that down to lifestyle and

> recent stress. Is it possible that this is temporary and if not

can

> it be treated using alternative methods as I am reluctant to embark

> on a lifetime of thyroxin. Help - would be grateful for any advice

[Guest guest]

Jen, do you have access to a sauna or steam room?

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I'm in the same boat you are tonight. My boyfriend is taking me out,

and I'm having a free meal tonight, but I don't want to be bloated

come the evening. Since this is my free day, I'm modifying my meals

a bit. I had some cottage cheese with fruit for breakfast, and I'm

going to have tuna mixed with barley for lunch, and that's it.

I can't have anything with too much fiber and no veggies and no

bars/shakes, because they all bloat me. Plus, I'm drinking a gallon

of water from now until 6 pm (we're going to dinner at 8, so I'm

going to taper off after 6, so I'm not running to the loo every 15

minutes during dinner).

Now, since this is my free day (my evening meal will be my free meal--

I can't go all out, or I lose control), I'm not eating as many meals

or as much as I normally would. Are you planning on taking a free

day, too? Oh, also, I'm doing a longer cardio session in the

afternoong, from 5 to 6. That'll get the rest of the bloat down.

Nothing like cardio to kill the bloat.

Dani

> HI ladies!

>

> I am going out tonite and it's " elegant attire " I was curious if

> there was away for me to not get all bloated for tonite, any food

or

> workout,or water intake I dhould follow for the day, so I can

> control some bloatage?

> Thanks

>

> Jen

[Guest guest]

---

Dani,

I am not having a free day today. But I am not doing too good

either. I am not hungry. I have had 2 low carb shakes,one with

popcorn, the other with sweet potatoes. I am going to up my water

and do my cardio at 6-7. Thanks for the input.

Jen

In , run_girl_la

<no_reply@y...> wrote:

> Jen,

>

> I'm in the same boat you are tonight. My boyfriend is taking me

out,

> and I'm having a free meal tonight, but I don't want to be bloated

> come the evening. Since this is my free day, I'm modifying my

meals

> a bit. I had some cottage cheese with fruit for breakfast, and

I'm

> going to have tuna mixed with barley for lunch, and that's it.

>

> I can't have anything with too much fiber and no veggies and no

> bars/shakes, because they all bloat me. Plus, I'm drinking a

gallon

> of water from now until 6 pm (we're going to dinner at 8, so I'm

> going to taper off after 6, so I'm not running to the loo every 15

> minutes during dinner).

>

> Now, since this is my free day (my evening meal will be my free

meal--

> I can't go all out, or I lose control), I'm not eating as many

meals

> or as much as I normally would. Are you planning on taking a free

> day, too? Oh, also, I'm doing a longer cardio session in the

> afternoong, from 5 to 6. That'll get the rest of the bloat down.

> Nothing like cardio to kill the bloat.

>

> Dani

>

>

> > HI ladies!

> >

> > I am going out tonite and it's " elegant attire " I was curious if

> > there was away for me to not get all bloated for tonite, any

food

> or

> > workout,or water intake I dhould follow for the day, so I can

> > control some bloatage?

> > Thanks

> >

> > Jen

[Guest guest]

I have two boys with autism, one is more severe, non-verbal and requires a

fulltime aid, this has been an ongoing fight with the school dristrict, however

I have had great success using an attorney at all ard's and meetings.

I use Ransleben he is a great education attorney, his number is (817)

491-8687, or go to his website www.theeducationlawyer.com , I am an attorney

working on vacination cases. My name is Ed Winfrey and my number is

1-866-383-2600.

Any Suggestions

I have asked my school for an independent evaluation on whether or not my 13

year old needs his personal aide at school or not as they are taking her

away this next school year. I need some suggestions on either a

psychiatrist or independent diagnostician who can do this evaluation for me.

Someone around the Dallas/Fort Worth area would be great. I would prefer

someone who is familliar with Autism so that we can get a good evaluation.

The school will give me a list of names but I just don't trust their list !!

Any suggestions would be great !!!

Thanks

Ginger

Vernon, TX

Ethan (13) high functioning autism/self aggression/hitting puberty OH BOY ..

[Guest guest]

I have two boys with autism, one is more severe, non-verbal and requires a

fulltime aid, this has been an ongoing fight with the school dristrict, however

I have had great success using an attorney at all ard's and meetings.

I use Ransleben he is a great education attorney, his number is (817)

491-8687, or go to his website www.theeducationlawyer.com , I am an attorney

working on vacination cases. My name is Ed Winfrey and my number is

1-866-383-2600.

Any Suggestions

I have asked my school for an independent evaluation on whether or not my 13

year old needs his personal aide at school or not as they are taking her

away this next school year. I need some suggestions on either a

psychiatrist or independent diagnostician who can do this evaluation for me.

Someone around the Dallas/Fort Worth area would be great. I would prefer

someone who is familliar with Autism so that we can get a good evaluation.

The school will give me a list of names but I just don't trust their list !!

Any suggestions would be great !!!

Thanks

Ginger

Vernon, TX

Ethan (13) high functioning autism/self aggression/hitting puberty OH BOY ..

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

The longest I have ever been on a plane with my Enbrel is about six or seven

hours. I went to my pharmacist and he gave me the Styrofoam box in which he

receives it. It's large enough for many kits and you can put those ice packs

in it. I wrapped my Enbrel in a hand towel so I wouldn't touch the frozen

packs. If you feel that your container won't last enough hours, the airlines

always have ice so add some to it (keeping the Enbrel still in the hand towel)

and

it should be fine. Most airports have restaurants in them so at the end of

your flight you could ask them for some fresh ice. That is what I'd do unless

someone else has a better plan.

Good luck and good fun....... )

xxoo

Carmen

[Guest guest]

Those gel cooler things stay frozen forever, should do the trick

Lynn Renae Dudenhoefer

lynndude@...

-On any path that you may stroll,

-keep your angel in your soul!

-- Any Suggestions

hello everyone,

as I believe you might be aware, I will be going on vacation to the

Mediterrean for a cruise with my family in June. The problem I have is that

the airline is unwilling to store my Enbrel injections kit in their

refrigerator. I'm so upset! Anyone who takes this medication knows that

it's not that big and quite compact. Somehow I have to get it from Toronto

to Venice and onto the ship before its too late, the only thing I can do is

to go out and buy a small cooler bag and put some of those cooler pacs in it

but my question is....will that do the trick, will those cooler pacs keep it

cool enough for the long journey? I don't get it, it's alright for me to

bring it on the plane as long as I have a doc's letter to explain why I'm

bring syringes onboard but they won't refridgerate it for me? What do all

these other people do that need their medications refridgerated? I wouldn't

be too concerned if it was only a five hour flight but it's at least double

that if not more?

Does anyone have any ideas?

Marilyn

mhogg69@...

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[Guest guest]

Maril; maybe a small chunk of dry ice? That stays very cold. Melt

----- Original Message -----

From: " Marilyn Hogg " <mhogg69@...>

The problem I have is that

> the airline is unwilling to store my Enbrel injections kit in their

> refrigerator. I wouldn't

> be too concerned if it was only a five hour flight but it's at least

double

> that if not more?

>

> Does anyone have any ideas?

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

I haven't been feeling well; consequently way behind in emails but thought I'd try to respond to your question about traveling with Enbrel. I was able to find a small soft side insulated bag only big enough to hold two baby bottles that goes with a diaper bag. I used frozen gel ice packs in it and it worked well. It took up very little room in my carry on and it was still cool after my flight. You could probably use a frozen bottle of water also. Happy sailing. Love, Barb

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb, I'm sorry to hear that you haven't been feeling well and I do

hope that changes real soon. It seems like alot of us have been feeling

under the weather lately.

Thanks for your advice on the cooler bag, etc. I recently went to Walmart

and bought one of those small collapsable cooler bags as well as one

freezable gel pack as well as a reg. ice pack (blue ice I think). At the

beginning, the airlines was in NO way going to refridgerate my Enbrel

medication but with ALOT of perserverance and phone calls, I finally

received the O.K. today from their medical department so they are going to

refrigerate my Enbrel after all. Hopefully they will refrigerate the ice

packs as well.

Thanks again and I do hope you begin to feel better real soon.

Marilyn

----Original Message Follows----

From: babsinsl@...

Reply-Stillsdisease

Stillsdisease

Subject: Re: Any Suggestions

Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:33:12 EDT

Hi Marilyn,

I haven't been feeling well; consequently way behind in emails but

thought I'd try to respond to your question about traveling with Enbrel. I

was

able to find a small soft side insulated bag only big enough to hold two

baby

bottles that goes with a diaper bag. I used frozen gel ice packs in it and

it

worked well. It took up very little room in my carry on and it was still

cool

after my flight. You could probably use a frozen bottle of water also. Happy

sailing. Love, Barb

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[Guest guest]

> just thought i would mention to you spiritual healing

Spiritual Healing & Harry

You may have noticed the enormous lengths with which people will go

to acquire material wealth, many at last are realising that to have

real wealth is to have good health as just about anyone who has

suffered anything serious will tell you. For of what good is it if

you own the world without the health to enjoy it.

Following the principles outlined in the Orion project will lead you

to real wealth=health. For research purposes only from the Orion

project which is set up in a very unique way in that the Orion

project is an information sharing resource funded privately, which

sells nothing and is there for the sharing of information which is of

huge value. This is a totally different set up from being prescribed

just drugs where there are huge profits to be made often at the

expense of the patients well being even sometimes misery.

Spiritual healing to many people conjures up so many images and

meanings, for those who do not know what it is all about, all that I

would ask is that you approach the subject with an open unprejudiced

mind and with a wish to explore and evaluate the evidence carefully

and properly. It is hoped with such an attitude truth will prevail

and misconceptions from misguided people will be put in their

rightful place.

From the outset it must be clearly understood that we live on a

planet of causes and effects, every thing seen on this planet has a

cause and an effect. We live in and are surrounded by all sorts of

effects like wind blowing from the north or a light shining from a

star or a leaf growing on a tree or wealth,

health,suffering,Happiness,Love,Sound,lightning,Music in fact

everything we see, feel, touch, smell, all have causes. Magic is the

name simply applied to happenings where no obvious cause can be seen,

at least to some of those witnessing it.As you can easily appreciate

no effect is without a cause.

We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where

old healing practises are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour

healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many

others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing

is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus

in so many of his healings.

Put simply Spiritual Healing is the transference of certain energies

through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the

planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the

limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this

energy .The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and

beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as

the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It

can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to

none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as

the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader

can soon appreciate that going to one spiritual healer can be vastly

different than going to another as it is with so many things whether

it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you.

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this

universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is

the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be

sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some

healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one

wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful

vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it.

Everyone needs healing, because there is not a single person which on

some part of their being does not require healing. I will clarify

that point further because some people are so physically orientated

they perceive people and their suffering on a basis of you look OK

you must be OK. This perception can be likened to looking at a puddle

of water and because it looks all right and then assuming that

because the rest of the ocean is made of the same kind of stuff it

must be the same, being absolutely oblivious to the rest of the

entire ocean. We are a very complicated beings comprising of many

different parts some of which are the mental self, the subconscious,

the Physical self and the spiritual self. I will leave it up to the

reader to discover the parts of themselves and their true importance

to their well beings.

During the healing process as a general rule people should simply

relax, all sorts of sensations may be felt typically heat, cold,

energy, sometimes even noises from your body.

Who is suitable for healing? All people at all stages of their life

especially the terminally ill;Animals even plants seem to respond.

Will one session be enough? Sometimes but probably a series may be

the answer.

Will healing cure me? All healing from all sources be it Doctor,

drugs, etc comes under the law of Karma.

There are no guarantees that healing from any source may give the

effect which the wishes. However it has been my experience

that even if you do not get the effect you desire, on some part of

your being you most very probably will receive some healing, even it

is just upliftment. Which can be extremely valuable

Those points covered I would now like to tell you a little about the

great healing work of the late Harry .Harry discovered that

he had healing talents in the army when he was applying bandages to

people a high rate of recovery was noticed. In the region he was in

which was Iran he soon even became known as Hakim or Doctor

Harry was told to concentrate on the next person he hears about who

is sick. A case arrived one who had TB who was dying .He concentrated

on that person with his mind and within 24 hrs the bleeding had

stopped the pain had stopped and the temperature had come down to

almost normal. The Doctors attending were amazed, the man returned to

work in a short time. More cases followed, people came with Cancer,

Consumption and other blights. Of notable healing was a boy with

Spinal Meningitis and who was dying. Harry sought healing for the boy

and within a short period of time the boy's parents were astonished

to find their boy sitting up in bed, the doctors looking on in

amazement. A growing queue was starting to form at his house and mail

started to arrive. But what truly amazed harry was the use of Absent

healing where the healing was sent by thought, the patient was not

even present but it seemed even more effective. To cope with the

growing demands of his work he set up a healing sanctuary at Burrows

lea in surrey and his secretaries started answering the hundreds of

letters which came each day. He was in constant demand to give talks

all over England. Then on one day he had the great urge to

demonstrate what he could do before an audience ``is there anyone

suffering from Arthritis''? he asked. Hands shot up from all over the

auditorium, which started off the public healing. The demonstrations

grew, a thousand people attended a demonstration at Croydon and

typically Harry would treat Arthritis, Spinal curvature, Deafness and

poor sight. One lady who had not been able to walk for three years

was given healing, after a few minutes of healing she walked down the

aisle much to the audience's delight. A child of six had her spinal

curvature straightened much to people's amazement.

Harry was in journal after journal as reporters bore testimony to

their findings and patients bore their own testimonials. But he never

allowed the adulation to effect his healing work, he maintained the

proper attitude that he was just a channel to which healing energy

flowed. Gradually over the years of healing he drew together the

letters and testimonials and presented them in an incredible book

called The evidence for Spiritual Healing which contained ten

thousand cures, yes that's right ten thousand .

Newspapers captured the signs with headlines like `'Sight restored

after seventeen years'' `'the Deaf hear'' `'After healing the cripple

danced'' `'Paralysed children walk off the stage unaided''and so on.

He would make the point quite clear that Spiritual Healing was not

faith healing and if it were so young babies and mental cases with no

comprehension about faith would not even respond. Of course Harry

liased with quite a few learned Doctors and many came to the healing

sanctuary to witness Harry unlock locked Spines, treat Arthritic hips

and slipped disks and treat other severe ailments. One Doctor even

told Harry that he would give five years of his life to achieve what

Harry had done. On another occasion Harry was called before a panel

of Doctors who presented him with their very own patients. The first

patient had Disseminated Sclerosis and came in with two helpers. On

the first treatment mobility was restored to the spastic spine then

co-ordination of the leg movements followed, she responded well and

started to walk, the session ended with the Doctors asking for

healing for their own personal troubles. Then royalty sought him out

Princess Marie Louise granddaughter of Queen sought healing

for Arthritis and she was instrumental in the royals attending the

sanctuary.

In less than five years Harry had received no less than one million

letters and in less than seven years over forty thousand people

attended the sanctuary. In the thirty years from the time he moved to

Burrows lea up to his passing in 1976 he received an average of 9000

letters a week .In over thirty years he received over 14 million

letters from patients. Harry passed to the other side of life in 1976

but not before teaching Ray and Joan branch how to continue with the

good work at Burrows lea where they still are today.

Happily now Spiritual healers are used quite extensively in the

N.H.S, in fact they are in over 1500 hospitals and at long last a lot

of churches have finally complied with what the master told them to

do two thousand years ago and that is to go forth and heal the sick.

In the year 2000 even our prince published a report stating

that spiritual healers should be extensively available throughout the

entire NHS. Over 7000 healers are now registered to treat patients in

the health system. I know of no cases where spiritual healing when

given by a trained healer has been detrimental in any way, I know of

no side effects except better health.

There is one more very important point that I would like to cover on

the subject of drugs and research. At present the system in this

country is, most research is done by drug companies with a clear

agenda of making a profit- but what are the implications of that

statement? Firstly if you were in charge of a drug company and each

drug was going to cost you 1-4million to test analyse and put on the

market you would make very sure that you were going to get a return

on that investment therefore you would only look at products which

had promise of giving you that return and disregard the rest.That

means simple inexpensive things like stjohns wort, glcothymoline,

castor oil,Peanut oil, crude oil, Epsom salts,Atomodine, Zappers

visualisation,carbonsteel,egyptian oil,ipsab,the rife machine the

impedance device don't get the proper research and the promotion

which they deserve.Many of these are of outstanding value giving huge

benefits but there is not enough money in them to attract some of the

drug companies.That plainly means the best treatment you can get is

often not some drug which Mrs you will be taking for the next

20yrs which can have some very serious side effects like cancer etc.

The most profitable situation for some of these drug companies is

that they develop a product which gives some benefit but which does

not actually cure you but which you will be on for the next 10-

20yrs .You note I say some please don't think I mean all, there are

some very useful drugs and treatment out there but you have got to

use discernment and search and ask questions about them all and not

just rely on the doctors who do not have not access to the

information on the inexpensive remedies. These doctors reputation

might well be at risk if they advocate untried products and many who

went onto Harry's point of view were severely reprimanded by their

Association. Happily there were to many doctors in favour of

spiritual healing which would mean that the Association would have

been sitting in session for the next 20 yrs or so disciplining them.

The church were not any better, did you know there was an official

commission set especially up to investigate spiritual healing? The

results of which to my knowledge were never made public. Happily

things have moved on a little now and some of the churches are giving

healing

I am a sincere advocate that most research should be done by

government researchers with only one vested interest on the agenda

and that being for the healing of the patient.

Just a few reports – " When I had finished treating him, it was a real

delight to see how wonderfully glad he was to be able to use his

legs, feet, arms and hands again... and then he told me: " When I came

here, I was convinced no one could help me, and I came only to please

my Aunt, who brought me. "

You worked a miracle with his father when he was very ill 1983-84

when I wrote to you, but you will be pleased to know he is now

working for the Council and lives a fairly normal life.

" You and the late Harry helped me so often and indeed I am

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>

> if my virul load is 400 and geno type 2/cand 2/a or whatever what

in

> the world am i so tired for the docter sadi i am lucky when i

finally

> saw him for all of five min i was seeen bty a physiction assistant

>

> nno tereatment and a liver biopsy was suggested then the pa handed

me

> her card

> just because my geno type is 2 does not mean

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

> i am like the rest of you and i am so tired sometimes witch was

> explained by possible hyperthyroid.

>

> i am not doing a liver bio

>

> i cant do anything or very little

> i have no husband or family is there any one or any help for me to

> still take care of my self anf not be homeless/

>

> bernice

[Guest guest]

Not having ever had periods, can't comment on that in particular, but know that

ex-wives tended to bloat with PMS, which would explain weight gain or non-loss.

(Gail and I didn't marry until that was no longer an issue)

Even more important is that you'll have plateaus for NO REASON YOU CAN EVER

FIGURE OUT. Some plateaus are because you've changed your eating (and remember,

the more you lose, the LESS you can eat and still lose). Hardly seems fair, but

a smaller body doesn't need as many calories to maintain.

dan

It's not what you take when you leave this world behind you;

it's what you leave behind you when you go.

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Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/27/03

355/323/206/190

any suggestions

>Hi,

>I was banded 1/9/07 and have done really well losing weight (73#) up til 2

weeks

>ago since then I have not lost, but even gained a lb. I make sure I get my

protein

>in, walk every day, and I have been tracking my calories on Fit day, So I

know I am

>in line there. My period is 2 weeks late (and I am usually regular, and most

>definately not pregnant) Would that cause my stall? Any suggestion on how I

can

>jumpstart my weight loss again-cause this is a little discouraging.

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> I was banded 1/9/07 and have done really well losing weight (73#) up

til 2 weeks ago since then I have not lost, but even gained a lb. ...

Would that cause my stall? Any suggestion on how I can jumpstart my

weight loss again-cause this is a little discouraging.

** Hello . here. What was your starting weight for WLS?

There are a lot of reasons for you to stop losing weight. Not

following the guidelines, lack of proper fill, emotions, stress, and

even your body telling itself that it has lost eneough. I would review

your daily intake, including protein amounts, and make slight

adjustments. In the past I have also shocked my system by eating what

I should not and then doing a post fill diet and then resuming my

regular food regiment. I hope this helps.

God Bless.

Dr. Spiegel

05/17/2006

367/266/245

[Guest guest]

I would suggest you do what works for you personally! I also think it would be

helpful to see a neuroseugeon as there are many nerves down there. It does help

to get several opinions from a few different doctors. Some dr's like to do

surgery right away others like to try physical therapy first.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

any suggestions

I am 40 and have abused my back all my life. I woke up a year ago with

stiffness and sharp pain. I went to chiro first. Saw him a hand full of times

and was getting no where. Went to regular doc who sent me to orthopedist. Got

MRI and report says moderate posterior paracentral disc herination and early

degenerative desease at L5-S1. Got bi lateral injections which helped for a

couple of months and then went back to elevated pain. Orthopedist said it was

not healing, you need surgery. I went searching for other venues and found

spinal decompression (vax-d) I have been doing decompression for 2 months now

with some relief (pain taken from 8 to a 2) pain goes back up to a 5 to 7 when

have any activity, then drops back to a 2 or 3 after 5-7 hours, but still not

feeling anywhere normal. I went to an orthopedic surgeon who said I would never

get better and need to get surgery ( anterior lumbar interbody fusion). What are

your suggestions?

Thanks for you input,

Kent King

[Guest guest]

it will get better... at least from my experience. If you are getting hungry before lunch, between meals, or before bed... hold onto the fruit from your 2 meals and use it then... or save half the fruit for when you are hungry. It doesn't have to be eaten WITH your meals. Also I found that certain artificial sweetners in drinks made me hungrier too... but yes.. it does get better. Are you doing drops, im, or sc and what is your dose?

Lynnie

[Guest guest]

give me a menu from an average day for you. There could be something you are missing that's making your loss slower

Lynnie

[Guest guest]

My hunger is allot better! Thanks. I am doing the injections "19" on the syringe. I just started my third week yesterday and I have now lost 12lbs. However I feel like it is coming off slow! the scale lately is moving anywhere from 0.8, 0.6, 0.4 0.2, or 0.0. how has it been for you?

Mo

From: "ibebackie@..." <ibebackie@...> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 12:07:23 AMSubject: Re: any suggestions

it will get better... at least from my experience. If you are getting hungry before lunch, between meals, or before bed... hold onto the fruit from your 2 meals and use it then... or save half the fruit for when you are hungry. It doesn't have to be eaten WITH your meals. Also I found that certain artificial sweetners in drinks made me hungrier too... but yes.. it does get better. Are you doing drops, im, or sc and what is your dose?

Lynnie

[Guest guest]

Morning: small grapefruit

3- cups of green tea

24oz water

Lunch: shrimp 4oz

handful of lettuce

1/2 fresh squeezed lemon juice

3:oopm small apple

Dinner: fish or chicken breast 4oz

handful of broccoli

of course all through the day water I average about 1/2 to 1 gallon of water.

[Guest guest]

Do you think that I am losing weight slower then average?

From: "ibebackie@..." <ibebackie@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 11:36:12 PMSubject: Re: any suggestions

give me a menu from an average day for you. There could be something you are missing that's making your loss slower

Lynnie

[Guest guest]

As I'm sure you know, everyone is different. But I would say on "average" it appears you might be losing a little slower. I would ixnay the grapefruit in the morning. It's not on the original protocol. I'm also not remembering that broccoli is on the original protocol either, but seems harmless. Just try changing things up a bit with the grapefruit. Also, be sure you aren't vigorously exercising and be sure to get plenty of sleep. You are doing great with the water, so keep it up.

Lynnie