vision issues

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanae,

I can't speak in general terms, other than to say Mili has told us that

she thinks lots of kids on the spectrum have vision problems. Bren's

problems are with his central vision I guess. He has trouble with

tracking and convergence. We've been going to the Roswell eye clinic

for the last year and Dr. Berger just did a follow up assessment and

said she sees a LOT of progress with regards to those issues.

Lanae Collier wrote:

> BlankWe recently took my son to a developmental optometrist. He said

> is most likely using central vision only and that we have to

> strengthen his peripheral usage. He said they're finding that most

> autistics are this way. I've heard from some therapists that it's

> the opposite - that they're using mainly peripheral vision and the

> central needs to be strengthened. Can anyone share what they know

> about this?

[Guest guest]

Vision problems are common with autism and many times are overlooked. Normal autistic behaviors, such as: poor eye contact, looking though or beyond objects, extreme aversion to light, unusual reaction to sight, lack of reciprocal play, inordinate fear of heights or lack of appropriate fear of heights and stemming, could be visual symptoms.

If you child has a diagnosis on the autism spectrum, sometimes vision therapists will use visual games to see how the person's eyes aim, focus, track, follow, move, see 3-D (depth perception), and process central-peripheral information. Sometimes yoked prisms ( lenses that bend light in the same direction: up, down, left or right) can have dramatic results by creating a difference in how the world is seen and allows the person to change how their world is perceived. Visual problems and problems with this central- peripheral processing are common with those that have a diagnosis on the autism spectrum.

The eye charts used by schools only measure clearness and sharpness of eyesight at a distance of 20 feet using a stationary target. However, these charts do not test for eye tracking, aim, teaming, depth perception or visual perceptual skills. In other words, a chart test will not measure the ability to see adequately at 20 inches (affects reading writing, math, etc.) visual efficiency in following an object or landscape in motion (affects all sports, PE, ball games, riding bicycle, etc.) or the ability to accurately judge distances and depth (affects balance, large motor coordination, perception of environment, etc). So, a child's central- peripheral processing issues may never be brought to light and addressed. Now, this central -peripheral issue may also be part of a larger issue as well, such as a retinal disease or other eye problems which should be ruled out first.

Hope this helps, Bowen

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Tami, pressure in the sinuses does cause vision issues - the one I've experienced is double vision. I definately think you should ask your Doc asap....please!!! Becky xTami Klumpyan <tami@...> wrote: Does anyone ever get wavy periphial vision? Had that this morning in the bath. Never had it before. It looked like the blades turning on a ceiling fan, crossed with waves on the water. No stroke symptoms, but a sharper than usual headache across my

eyebrows. I feel a little tired today too. Probably a migraine, but was wondering if pressure in the sinuses will do this. Tami

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Sounds like your sinus to me, I've had the same thing. I've had a

big decrease in vision this year which I marked up as a side effect

of prednsione, had a heck of a time getting a new drivers license

becausethey wanted to put a glasses restriction on it and after

having a fit and trying about 10 different veiwers I was finally able

to pass. Before my surgery, when they had me to sign off on the risks

they told 1. the risk of puncturing the cribiform plate (cerebral

leaking) but not to worry if they did they could repair it on the

spot, yeah right tell you something like that and not to worry. The

other risk was possible blindness so there is a connection. Amazingly

after my surgery my vision returned to normal so it wasn't the

prednisone after all.

> Does anyone ever get wavy periphial vision? Had that

this morning in the bath. Never had it before. It looked like the

blades turning on a ceiling fan, crossed with waves on the water. No

stroke symptoms, but a sharper than usual headache across my

eyebrows. I feel a little tired today too. Probably a migraine, but

was wondering if pressure in the sinuses will do this.

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[Guest guest]

> Does anyone ever get wavy periphial vision? Had that this morning in the

> bath. Never had it before. It looked like the blades turning on a ceiling

> fan, crossed with waves on the water. No stroke symptoms, but a sharper than

> usual headache across my eyebrows. I feel a little tired today too. Probably

> a migraine, but was wondering if pressure in the sinuses will do this.

> Tami

Your expression of symptoms seems to be a wonderful description of symptoms

that I have had for 20 years. I used to call it " fluttering " , but your

" fan and waves " image is right on. Yes, with me, it always starts out

peripheral, but often migrates towards the centre of vision.

The first time I had it I freaked out and saw an eye specialist asap.

He said it was indications of migrane, even though I never get headaches.

ie., there are many possible symptoms of migrane, of which headaches are

one, and this is another.

The frequency of occurence with me has increased over time from once a year

to about once a month, (including last night) but they always last about

10-15 mintues, and there seems to be no lasting effects.

Over the years I have talked to 3 or 4 others who seem to have the same

symptoms, and their diagnosis has always been the same.

Having said all that, it obviously still would be a good idea to see a

profiessional.

[Guest guest]

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> Bee,

>

> I have had vision issues for years now. They began when contacts

became

> too uncomfortable to wear. My eyes were too dry and sticky-like.

> About a year ago I noticed my vision was failing so I replaced my

> lenses. Soon after it seemed like my eyes were failing again! I

> believe this is due to candida, but what do I do if I'm having

trouble

> reading signs while driving, etc.? I keep putting off another eye

exam

> thinking I should wait until the candida clears up first.

>

> I tried the coconut oil in my eyes, but that gave my very blurry

vision and seemed to compound my issues by causing me even more eye

strain.

> Sometimes I feel like eye issues are overlooked because if you can

get

> yeast infections/thrush in the mouth and vagina, why not the eyes?

>

> What do you recommend a candida sufferer do as far as vision goes?

+++Hi . Candida can definitely grow in the eyes, which has

mucus membranes just like the ears, nose, sinuses, mouth, digestive

tract, etc. - it's one of the many problems caused by candida - see

this list: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout3.php

+++It is important that you follow the diet and take all of the

supplements, some of which are very important for eye health. Also

you can do these eye treatments:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat9.php

+++A person can also detoxify through their eyes, like I did which

lasted for 3 months while I was on my candida program.

+++Remember that during the healing process your body will

also " retrace " previous symptoms you've had with your eyes (along

with other diseases, illnesses, symptoms, injuries, etc.), according

to Hering's Law of Cure:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_1_2.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

> +++Hi . Candida can definitely grow in the eyes, which has

> mucus membranes just like the ears, nose, sinuses, mouth, digestive

> tract, etc. - it's one of the many problems caused by candida - see

> this list: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout3.php

>

> +++It is important that you follow the diet and take all of the

> supplements, some of which are very important for eye health. Also

> you can do these eye treatments:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat9.php

>

> +++A person can also detoxify through their eyes, like I did which

> lasted for 3 months while I was on my candida program.

>

> +++Remember that during the healing process your body will

> also " retrace " previous symptoms you've had with your eyes (along

> with other diseases, illnesses, symptoms, injuries, etc.),

according

> to Hering's Law of Cure:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_1_2.php

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

Thank you Bee!

What do you recommend as far as getting your eyes checked by an

optometrist while you have candida/die off reactions in the eyes?

Should I get new lenses now or will my vision continue to fluctuate?

I'm afraid it's more than just a gooey substance in my eyes and

something deeper that affects my clarity of vision.

Also, what does putting coconut oil directly on the eyes do, get rid

of the gooey substance or improve vision?

PS. Sorry if I didn't trim this note properly. Wasn't sure if I

should erase everything or not.

[Guest guest]

> Thank you Bee!

>

> What do you recommend as far as getting your eyes checked by an

> optometrist while you have candida/die off reactions in the eyes?

> Should I get new lenses now or will my vision continue to

fluctuate? I'm afraid it's more than just a gooey substance in my

eyes and something deeper that affects my clarity of vision.

+++Hi n. You should get your eyes checked so you know what you

are dealing with; it doesn't mean you have to follow through on

treatments, depending upon what is happening with your eyes.

+++But go to an Ophthalmologist, instead of an Optometrist. An

Ophthalmologist is a medical doctor who specializes in the anatomy,

functions, pathology, and treatment of the eye. An Optometrist is

okay for vision correction only.

> Also, what does putting coconut oil directly on the eyes do, get

rid of the gooey substance or improve vision?

+++Coconut oil is antifungal so it helps kill candida in the eyes.

But don't use it if you are getting a film, instead use one of the

other eye treatments in the article I referred you to - some are also

antifungal.

> PS. Sorry if I didn't trim this note properly. Wasn't sure if I

> should erase everything or not.

+++You wouldn't get rid of everything since it is good to know what

you are responding to. Do a Message Search for the " Trim Your

Message " instructions - it is posted every 2 weeks. To do a Message

Search you need to be on the Group's Website; click on Messages and

just above them you'll see 2 search functions. The first one is for

Message Numbers, and the 2nd one is for Subject.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

Vision issues are very common with neuro lyme. My LLMD has described

numerous strange vision problems with his lyme patients and there is a

considerable scientific literature linking vision problems to lyme.

One effect can occur when the spirochete in the brain affects the optic

nerve which then ceases to respond effectively to changes in light and

ceases to focus as it did before. Also, on occasion, optic neuritis.

I have had vision symptoms since the beginning of my lyme saga....my vision

has always improved when on antibiotics.... This has been one of most

difficult symptoms for me as I live in a large city and simply don't feel

safe crossing streets and so forth with vision which is erratic. Nor can I

drive. Fortunately I can see the computer screen fine....

What a dreadful disease.