Re: Using antibiotics in face of inflammation

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My LLMD insists that I MUST take quercetin along with my abx, because it can

greatly reduce the cytokine production caused by herx. And this also relates to

keeping inflammation down.

He says 500 mg minimum, but I usually take 1000 with each dose.

Sara

On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:33 14PM, bluesky wrote:

> I have a very particular question and I'm looking for anyone's answer to

> *this question* onlyrather than giving me info about other techniques for

> handling Lyme. It would be so helpful to me for people to stick to this

> focus in any answer.

>

> I'm having a flareup of chronic Lyme that's affecting numerous systems.

> Typically I can only take 3-5 doses of the antibiotics that help me because

> my digestive system gets to inflamed that my lips and mouth begin to swell

> after a few doses.

>

> I have a supply of three antibiotics that help me the most and was going to

> begin taking Biaxin at mealtime today. Then I realized the inside of my

> lips were already swollen from any one of the things that cause me severe

> chronic inflammation.

>

> I'm looking to get some relief from the abx. A very short course usually

> helps a little.

>

> Here's my specific question.

>

> ***Is there anything I can do or take to minimize the further irritation the

> Biaxin is likely to cause? I always take it with food, which does protect

> from even worse irritation. I do take probiotics, at a different time of

> day, when I take an antibiotic.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> I appreciate the focus. It seems that in the last couple of years here my

> questions get answered info that's not my issue at hand and it gets a bit

> overwhelming. I hope you understand.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Blue

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, and another idea:

On a longer-term basis, the inflammation problem may be caused by poor

glutathione production, which leads to huge toxic buildups in the system and

also gravely impairs immune function. A compromised immune system can easily

create the kind of hyperinflammatory reactions you're getting.

To address this, you might consider Rich Van Konyenenburg's Simplifed Protocol,

which is designed to help CFS patients restore GSH production over time (time,

in this case, being 1-2 years). It's a small handful of supplements that many

CFS and some Lyme patients use to strongly improve immune function. If it's

working, it actually creates strong herxes of its own as GSH comes back online

and starts moving crud out of the tissues.

More here:

<http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/hypothesis.html>

<http://www.chronicfatiguetreatments.com/wordpress/treatments/a-great-forum-post\

-by-dr-rich-van-kronynenberg-about-the-recent-cdc-genetic-study-on-chronic-fatig\

ue/

Sara

On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:33 14PM, bluesky wrote:

> I have a very particular question and I'm looking for anyone's answer to

> *this question* onlyrather than giving me info about other techniques for

> handling Lyme. It would be so helpful to me for people to stick to this

> focus in any answer.

>

> I'm having a flareup of chronic Lyme that's affecting numerous systems.

> Typically I can only take 3-5 doses of the antibiotics that help me because

> my digestive system gets to inflamed that my lips and mouth begin to swell

> after a few doses.

>

> I have a supply of three antibiotics that help me the most and was going to

> begin taking Biaxin at mealtime today. Then I realized the inside of my

> lips were already swollen from any one of the things that cause me severe

> chronic inflammation.

>

> I'm looking to get some relief from the abx. A very short course usually

> helps a little.

>

> Here's my specific question.

>

> ***Is there anything I can do or take to minimize the further irritation the

> Biaxin is likely to cause? I always take it with food, which does protect

> from even worse irritation. I do take probiotics, at a different time of

> day, when I take an antibiotic.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> I appreciate the focus. It seems that in the last couple of years here my

> questions get answered info that's not my issue at hand and it gets a bit

> overwhelming. I hope you understand.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Blue

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the

> net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease

>

> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease

> http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8

>

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From: " Sara " <srobinson@...>

> My LLMD insists that I MUST take quercetin along with my abx, because it

> can greatly reduce the cytokine production caused by herx. And this also

> relates to keeping inflammation down.

Thanks, Sara. I will certainly do an online search to learn more. Do you

have any particular links or suggested places where you got your information

about both cytokine production and quercetin? This is a new area of info

for me.

What brand quercetin do you use?

I remember reading about quercetin in relation to allergies about 20 years

ago, but now's the term to learn more.

Thanks so much.

Blue

[Guest guest]

where do you buy this??? thanks

________________________________

From: Sara <srobinson@...>

Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 5:41:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Using antibiotics in face of inflammation

 

My LLMD insists that I MUST take quercetin along with my abx, because it can

greatly reduce the cytokine production caused by herx. And this also relates to

keeping inflammation down.

He says 500 mg minimum, but I usually take 1000 with each dose.

Sara

On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:33 14PM, bluesky wrote:

> I have a very particular question and I'm looking for anyone's answer to

> *this question* onlyrather than giving me info about other techniques for

> handling Lyme. It would be so helpful to me for people to stick to this

> focus in any answer.

>

> I'm having a flareup of chronic Lyme that's affecting numerous systems.

> Typically I can only take 3-5 doses of the antibiotics that help me because

> my digestive system gets to inflamed that my lips and mouth begin to swell

> after a few doses.

>

> I have a supply of three antibiotics that help me the most and was going to

> begin taking Biaxin at mealtime today. Then I realized the inside of my

> lips were already swollen from any one of the things that cause me severe

> chronic inflammation.

>

> I'm looking to get some relief from the abx. A very short course usually

> helps a little.

>

> Here's my specific question.

>

> ***Is there anything I can do or take to minimize the further irritation the

> Biaxin is likely to cause? I always take it with food, which does protect

> from even worse irritation. I do take probiotics, at a different time of

> day, when I take an antibiotic.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

> I appreciate the focus. It seems that in the last couple of years here my

> questions get answered info that's not my issue at hand and it gets a bit

> overwhelming. I hope you understand.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Blue

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Anywhere and everywhere. It's a standard supplement. I think even Costco carries

it -- though I have not been impressed with the quality of Costco's house

supplements in the past.

Sara

On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:33 08AM, Diane Biel wrote:

> where do you buy this??? thanks

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Sara <srobinson@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 5:41:15 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Using antibiotics in face of inflammation

>

>

> My LLMD insists that I MUST take quercetin along with my abx, because it can

greatly reduce the cytokine production caused by herx. And this also relates to

keeping inflammation down.

>

> He says 500 mg minimum, but I usually take 1000 with each dose.

>

> Sara

>

> On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:33 14PM, bluesky wrote:

>

>> I have a very particular question and I'm looking for anyone's answer to

>> *this question* onlyrather than giving me info about other techniques for

>> handling Lyme. It would be so helpful to me for people to stick to this

>> focus in any answer.

>>

>> I'm having a flareup of chronic Lyme that's affecting numerous systems.

>> Typically I can only take 3-5 doses of the antibiotics that help me because

>> my digestive system gets to inflamed that my lips and mouth begin to swell

>> after a few doses.

>>

>> I have a supply of three antibiotics that help me the most and was going to

>> begin taking Biaxin at mealtime today. Then I realized the inside of my

>> lips were already swollen from any one of the things that cause me severe

>> chronic inflammation.

>>

>> I'm looking to get some relief from the abx. A very short course usually

>> helps a little.

>>

>> Here's my specific question.

>>

>> ***Is there anything I can do or take to minimize the further irritation the

>> Biaxin is likely to cause? I always take it with food, which does protect

>> from even worse irritation. I do take probiotics, at a different time of

>> day, when I take an antibiotic.

>>

>> Thanks so much.

>>

>> I appreciate the focus. It seems that in the last couple of years here my

>> questions get answered info that's not my issue at hand and it gets a bit

>> overwhelming. I hope you understand.

>>

>> Thanks so much!

>>

>> Blue

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>>

>> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the

>> net: http://www.topix. net/health/ lyme-disease

>>

>> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease

>> http://tinyurl. com/23dgy8

>>