question

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Well, there's little doubt that this many antibiotic injections caused serious problems, but I've been unable to determine what antibiotic injections also contained despite a lotta googling. I've always guessed that they had some mercury. Embarrassing is that my wife insists she had antibiotic injections every 8 hours during all that time, but the records I have are very messy at 1/2 inch thick. I only see Keflin and chlorostrep, though I thought she had said something else, and no indication of treatment being given that often in spite of her firm memory on it. Nevertheless, it's been very clear to me since 1972 that whatever led to her sensitivity issues developed during this period, 55-59, but that both the Dalkon shield and amalgams later compounded them dramatically.

So, I guess that there's little that her records do to support the obvious. I don't have any idea what other vaccinations she was given, but I remember mine as seemingly endless, I dreaded each one and became deathly ill for several weeks following them, and a year later in early 1955 was diagnosed as "psychologically deaf."

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Good IDEAno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:00 AM

pardon the thread intrusion... Alan may remember me from a few other groups ( ) and we see A LOT of kids whose mothers had RhoGam or flu shot or amalgams...and then the infant vaccines....they know mercury does this stuff....they just cover it up.> > > From: Stock <hellokitty2k01>> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Guardasil for Babies?????? ?> "No Forced Vaccination Group" <no-forced-vaccinat i ongroups (DOT) com>> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:30 AM> > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > This is disgusting.. ..In Australia they are proposing to add 'Gardasil' to the recommended schedule for BABIES!!!!! They want to discuss 'testing' on infants in their first few months of life. This is CRIMINAL at best!> > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/HealthScienc e/Cervical_ cancer_vaccine_ for_babies/ articleshow/ 2314918.cms> > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4219 (20090705) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4223 (20090708) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature

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Info on KEFLIN:http://www.drugs.com/cons/keflin.html

Active ingredients: Cefalotin sodium

Inactive ingredients: sodium bicarbonate

Pregnancy—Studies have not been done in humans. However, most cephalosporins have not been reported to cause birth defects or other problems in animal studies. Studies in rabbits have shown that cefoxitin may increase the risk of miscarriages and cause other problems.

Also see http://www.racgp.org.au/cmi/asckefli.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cefalotin

Well, there's little doubt that this many antibiotic injections caused serious problems, but I've been unable to determine what antibiotic injections also contained despite a lotta googling. I've always guessed that they had some mercury. Embarrassing is that my wife insists she had antibiotic injections every 8 hours during all that time, but the records I have are very messy at 1/2 inch thick. I only see Keflin and chlorostrep, though I thought she had said something else, and no indication of treatment being given that often in spite of her firm memory on it. Nevertheless, it's been very clear to me since 1972 that whatever led to her sensitivity issues developed during this period, 55-59, but that both the Dalkon shield and amalgams later compounded them dramatically.

So, I guess that there's little that her records do to support the obvious. I don't have any idea what other vaccinations she was given, but I remember mine as seemingly endless, I dreaded each one and became deathly ill for several weeks following them, and a year later in early 1955 was diagnosed as "psychologically deaf."

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Good IDEAno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:00 AM

pardon the thread intrusion... Alan may remember me from a few other groups ( ) and we see A LOT of kids whose mothers had RhoGam or flu shot or amalgams...and then the infant vaccines....they know mercury does this stuff....they just cover it up.> > > From: Stock <hellokitty2k01>> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Guardasil for Babies?????? ?> "No Forced Vaccination Group" <no-forced-vaccinat i ongroups (DOT) com>> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:30 AM> > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > This is disgusting.. ..In Australia they are proposing to add 'Gardasil' to the recommended schedule for BABIES!!!!! They want to discuss 'testing' on infants in their first few months of life. This is CRIMINAL at best!> > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/HealthScienc e/Cervical_ cancer_vaccine_ for_babies/ articleshow/ 2314918.cms> > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4219 (20090705) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4223 (20090708) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4223 (20090708) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4223 (20090708) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com>

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THLGrNObwUs wonder why so many...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Alan Foossolvesunified.com <cusanusnicolas@...> wrote:

This is a good time to pose an important question. These vaccs for my wife were mostly antibiotic shots (penicillin, I think, have to look at the records), but I do NOT know for certain that they contained Thimerosal or anything else in the early 50s. I did do some searching and concluded that they likely did, but how does one know? Does anyone have a clearer pictures of what these antibiotic shots had in them? A lot of them were for ear " infections, " but many of the ear inflammations I've seen have clearly been toxin related. Some of my inlaws children had hearing damage as infants, and I personally felt that this was neurological and caused by vaccinations. Anyone?

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>Subject: Re: Good IDEA

no-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:00 AM

pardon the thread intrusion... Alan may remember me from a few other groups ( ) and we see A LOT of kids whose mothers had RhoGam or flu shot or amalgams...and then the infant vaccines....they know mercury does this stuff....they just cover it up.

> > > From: Stock <hellokitty2k01>

> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Guardasil for Babies?????? ?> " No Forced Vaccination Group " <no-forced-vaccinat i ongroups (DOT) com>> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:30 AM>

> > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > This is disgusting.. ..In Australia they are proposing to add 'Gardasil' to the recommended schedule for BABIES!!!!! They want to discuss 'testing' on infants in their first few months of life. This is CRIMINAL at best!

> > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/HealthScienc e/Cervical_ cancer_vaccine_ for_babies/ articleshow/ 2314918.cms> > >

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Wish I had the URL to another one which shows hundreds of concrete underground vaults made to hold these caskets, very convincing and built inside one of the FEMA camps. So, this stockpile in Georgia is owned by the CDC? Makes sense.

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Good IDEAno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:00 AM

pardon the thread intrusion... Alan may remember me from a few other groups ( ) and we see A LOT of kids whose mothers had RhoGam or flu shot or amalgams...and then the infant vaccines....they know mercury does this stuff....they just cover it up.> > > From: Stock <hellokitty2k01>> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Guardasil for Babies?????? ?> "No Forced Vaccination Group" <no-forced-vaccinat i ongroups (DOT) com>> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 9:30 AM> > > > >

> > > > > > --- > > > > > > This is disgusting.. ..In Australia they are proposing to add 'Gardasil' to the recommended schedule for BABIES!!!!! They want to discuss 'testing' on infants in their first few months of life. This is CRIMINAL at best!> > http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/HealthScienc e/Cervical_ cancer_vaccine_ for_babies/ articleshow/ 2314918.cms> > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4219 (20090705) __________> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > http://www.eset. com> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32

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It can be hard for me to tell when I'm depressed...I don't generally get sad or

down...I do tend to withdraw from people and things I used to do...I don't

answer my phone....but the biggest sypmtoms I have with depression is fatigue,

achiness and I just have more pain. All of this can kinda sneak in slowly so you

don't even realize you are depressed...at least that's how it is with me!

 --- Babbitt

________________________________

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:26:24 PM

Subject: question

 

Anyway, I have been told I have a " Sacro-Flair Dysfunction " . What ever the heck

that is. They want to inject it (kinda to the left of the base of my spine) and

my left hip joint. Asked them " with what " ???

Now you have to understand, both myself and my sister have been involved in

horse racing, so yes. I have seen the damage that can be done if the " injection "

of a joint is not done just right. " Steroids/cortisone " for the most part are

just a waste of time and money on a horse. Does not last very long and usually

only gives temporary relief. There are better things out there (for horses

anyway). Adequan is one, I know it is available for humans under a different

name. (allot of body builders use it). Hyaluronic Acid is another (replaces the

fluid in your joints with a synthetic).

JC if anybody ever got any options of what they wanted to " stick " you with.

Doesn't anybody ever ask??? I think I might go ahead and try them though. See if

it helps, while I still have some insurance to pay for it. Very soon I am going

to run out of options, so have to know what works and what doesn't.

BTW, somebody mentioned on here about depression. Somebody else mentioned how

they have not been able to " sleep in " for ages.... I was asked recently if I was

depressed... .one major symptom of depressoin is having a hard time getting up

in the morning. Wanting to sleep all day.... EEERRRR.... I do not have a choice!

Once I wake up I have to crawl out of bed. Hurts like h**l. I can not just lay

there. They look at me strangely when I just laugh... and then tell them, yes, I

am depressed.

in NH

[Guest guest]

I can't ever sleep in: if I'm abed too many hours my pain is SO much worse! I'm

sure part is the time between med doses, but I know some of it is the darn

osteoarthritis.

I've read a few places about getting up at the same time every day, and it

really seems to help in my case. Don't think that'd work if you were depressed

and not " just " an insomniac, but there it is.

>

> BTW, somebody mentioned on here about depression. Somebody else mentioned how

they have not been able to " sleep in " for ages.... I was asked recently if I was

depressed....one major symptom of depressoin is having a hard time getting up in

the morning. Wanting to sleep all day.... EEERRRR.... I do not have a choice!

Once I wake up I have to crawl out of bed. Hurts like h**l. I can not just lay

there. They look at me strangely when I just laugh... and then tell them, yes, I

am depressed.

>

> in NH

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to join in on this subject...

I am the same way too unfortunately...its the Degenerative joint disease,

osteoarthritis, its just worse in the morning period...during the week I get up

at 6:30 and weekends 7:00-7:30 and if I wait longer than I am

suffering...aching...always thougth that would come with old age, but heck its

been going on since my late 30's early 40's...luck of the draw I guess. Or all

those double shifts in my earlier years...

RN in DC

> >

> > BTW, somebody mentioned on here about depression. Somebody else mentioned

how they have not been able to " sleep in " for ages.... I was asked recently if I

was depressed....one major symptom of depressoin is having a hard time getting

up in the morning. Wanting to sleep all day.... EEERRRR.... I do not have a

choice! Once I wake up I have to crawl out of bed. Hurts like h**l. I can not

just lay there. They look at me strangely when I just laugh... and then tell

them, yes, I am depressed.

> >

> > in NH

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I sometimes worry. I am 51. What is it going to be like 10 years from now???? I

have problems that they have not figured out what they are yet. Yah, had an MRI

recently. At Dartmouth-Hitchcock. Everything, bones, looks super-good. Went to

see a neurologist that has been board certified since 1978???(I think) Nice

guy... super duper Doc. Well now I am faced with trying to get my MRI results

from the hospital. (what am I gonna do with them.... stick them in my puter???

and look for stuff they could not see???... I do know how to read an x-ray...but

geesssh.)

Well, at least I will have them. I have nerve damage. Doesn't show. Actually

what did show was that I had a large 10cm. mass in my pelvic area. He called me

after the MRI and said " I think I have found the source of your pain " .... well I

am sure he was waiting for me to ask him " is it cancer???? " .... well it is not

(I am sure he does not get THAT reaction everyday). It is just a nasty old

uterine fibroid, that I though was taken care of in 2005 (UFE). I did have the

ultra sounds and the MRIs of it to fax to him (within 10 minutes, which is why

you should always have a copy of your tests) . He ordered another ultrasound,

called me and said " yes you were right, it is a fibroid " .... I was too

'surprised?', he called soon after I got home from the trip up there, it is 2

hours from me. AND did not think to ask him WELL WHAT DO I DO NOW??? What a

dummy I am.

So ya... laying in bed is agony. But it always surprises me that when you do get

" sick " , the back pain kinda goes away? For a little while anyway? Really weird.

The brain seems to 'shut down' certain parts of it when needed... When I am well

rested, feeling good, the spasms, twitching, numb feet, cold feet, start in.

Bummer.

OKAY, and why is it we can SLEEP (if we can get to sleep that is) with pain????

If something wakes me in the night... the " pain demons " wake also. Why is that??

People with extreme pain they put in a medically induced coma (burn victims for

example). You know, I really like natural remedies and all that, I really do

like " sleepy time tea " at night. But gosh... I really do wonder what I am going

to do 10 years from now???? Jump off a bridge?????

Sorry it got lomg. in nh

Re: question

I have to join in on this subject...

I am the same way too unfortunately...its the Degenerative joint disease,

osteoarthritis, its just worse in the morning period...during the week I get up

at 6:30 and weekends 7:00-7:30 and if I wait longer than I am

suffering...aching...always thougth that would come with old age, but heck its

been going on since my late 30's early 40's...luck of the draw I guess. Or all

those double shifts in my earlier years...

RN in DC

> >

> > BTW, somebody mentioned on here about depression. Somebody else mentioned

how they have not been able to " sleep in " for ages.... I was asked recently if I

was depressed....one major symptom of depressoin is having a hard time getting

up in the morning. Wanting to sleep all day.... EEERRRR.... I do not have a

choice! Once I wake up I have to crawl out of bed. Hurts like h**l. I can not

just lay there. They look at me strangely when I just laugh... and then tell

them, yes, I am depressed.

> >

> > in NH

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Group,

> (Judith again from Eugene). I did the 9 day cleanse and want to know when can

I start to reintroduce quinoa and 1 piece of fruit per day?

+++Hi Judith. If you have candida you would not reintroduce grains or fruit

until you've overcome your candida by building up your immune system.

Please ensure you read two important articles, so you understand candida, and

know what you need to do and why:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, it is fine to put coconut oil in hot tea.

>

> hello group,

>  

> my name is victoria russo. i have posted once before. my question is, is it ok

to put co in hot tea? i do cook with it, but i have also been putting it in my

tea. thanks victoria russo

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have said this so many times. It is better to get as many opinions as you can.

After surgery is not the time to get more. Please get some more opinions from

other surgeons.

>

>

> I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had c5-6. I

had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a myelogram done

and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have surgery for. Live

with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last surgery and he wants

to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled for 2 days before

Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says yes surgery.. What do

ya do?

>

> Thanks

>

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[Guest guest]

Get a third opinion. In a case of the second opinion doctor disagreeing with the

original doctor most insurances including Medicare & Medicaid will  a tie

breaking decision.

Jane H.

From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain ,

spinal problems

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:55 PM

 

I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had c5-6. I

had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a myelogram done

and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have surgery for. Live

with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last surgery and he wants

to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled for 2 days before

Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says yes surgery.. What do

ya do?

Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Get a third opinion. In a case of the second opinion doctor disagreeing with the

original doctor most insurances including Medicare & Medicaid will  a tie

breaking decision.

Jane H.

From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain ,

spinal problems

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:55 PM

 

I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had c5-6. I

had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a myelogram done

and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have surgery for. Live

with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last surgery and he wants

to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled for 2 days before

Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says yes surgery.. What do

ya do?

Thanks

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, I think you need to know the pro, & cons of the surgery, are their

any complications, & how successfully will this surgery relieve your pain, &

restore your function. Ask him if there are any other treatments,

surgery, or procedures, available to treat your condition. Do you have a

hospital

that has a spinal clinic that evaluates, & treats cervical DDD? I would

consider a 3rd opinion. June, RN

In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:22:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Get a third opinion. In a case of the second opinion doctor disagreeing

with the original doctor most insurances including Medicare & Medicaid will

a tie breaking decision.

Jane H.

From: <_ljorichardson0912@ljorichards_

(mailto:ljorichardson0912@...) >

Subject: [PainInTheNeck-Subject: [

_painintheneck-painintheneck-<Wpain_

(mailto:neck pain ) ,

_spinedisorderssuppospinedisorderssuspinedi_

(mailto:spinal problems )

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:55 PM

I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had

c5-6. I had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a

myelogram done and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have

surgery for. Live with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last

surgery and he wants to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled

for 2 days before Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says

yes surgery.. What do ya do?

Thanks

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.

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[Guest guest]

, I think you need to know the pro, & cons of the surgery, are their

any complications, & how successfully will this surgery relieve your pain, &

restore your function. Ask him if there are any other treatments,

surgery, or procedures, available to treat your condition. Do you have a

hospital

that has a spinal clinic that evaluates, & treats cervical DDD? I would

consider a 3rd opinion. June, RN

In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:22:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

Get a third opinion. In a case of the second opinion doctor disagreeing

with the original doctor most insurances including Medicare & Medicaid will

a tie breaking decision.

Jane H.

From: <_ljorichardson0912@ljorichards_

(mailto:ljorichardson0912@...) >

Subject: [PainInTheNeck-Subject: [

_painintheneck-painintheneck-<Wpain_

(mailto:neck pain ) ,

_spinedisorderssuppospinedisorderssuspinedi_

(mailto:spinal problems )

Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:55 PM

I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had

c5-6. I had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a

myelogram done and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have

surgery for. Live with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last

surgery and he wants to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled

for 2 days before Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says

yes surgery.. What do ya do?

Thanks

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.

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[Guest guest]

Get more opinions. Some docs want to operate on everyone...some recognize that

you should NOT take every disk to the OR, in fact, most are better left alone.

 --- Babbitt

________________________________

From: great5kids <t.kessenich@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 5:47:54 PM

Subject: Re: Question

 

I have said this so many times. It is better to get as many opinions as you can.

After surgery is not the time to get more. Please get some more opinions from

other surgeons.

>

>

> I had neck surgery fusion of c6-7 in Feb this year. 6 years ago I had c5-6. I

had mri and it showed stenosis and herniated disc in c4-5 I had a myelogram done

and the one doctor said that it didn't show anything to have surgery for. Live

with it basically. I went back to the dr that did my last surgery and he wants

to go ahead and do another fusion and has it scheduled for 2 days before

Thanksgiving. HMMM one says no surgery and the other says yes surgery.. What do

ya do?

>

> Thanks

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.

> http://clk.atdmt. com/GBL/go/ 171222984/ direct/01/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heck, I got hit that hard 25 years ago..okay, back then the cars were

designed NOT to crush and bend, that was for the occupants..but I was a lot

younger, and in great shape, and I still hurt like blue blazes for quite a

while afterewards.

In a message dated 10/31/2009 1:50:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ljorichardson0912@... writes:

I had my seat belt on but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since

then.. Could it have done more damage from getting hit from someone going

that slow? I have an appt with my phsyiatrist next Thurs.

[Guest guest]

Personally....i would run not walk to the closest ER. Same happened to me in

1978...the beginning of my problems. But you need to get a medical claim record

started. the longer you wait the easier it will be for them to deny

responsibility.

Danny

>

>

> I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but

here goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they

want to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend

my friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

>

> Thanks for any input.

>

>

>

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lisa,

35-40 mph is not slow. would you stand in front of a car going that fast? rear

end

collisions, especially those where the the impacted vehicle is stationery, can

cause severe

spinal injury even at speeds as low as 5-10 mph, tho rare.

hyperflexion/hyperextension injuries

aka whiplash, are commonly induced by rear end/front end collisions. the head is

flung back and then whips forward

with an equal and opposite force. its newton's third law of physics. so an

implied force of

35-40 mph is therefore applied to your neck. thats certainly enough to induce

significant

injury and you should definitely tell your physician.

dr bob

 

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From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

neck pain ;

spinal problems

Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 9:49:44 PM

Subject: Question

 

I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but here

goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they want

to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend my

friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

Thanks for any input.

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In a message dated 10/31/2009 1:49:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ljorichardson0912@... writes:

I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going about

35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been

This is EXACTLY what happened to my husband. He was taken to emergency

and pronounced fine. His own Doctor never told him to have a neck MRI,

because he didn't complain of pain. Then, 4 years later, he was found to have

severe cord compression. Just reading and learning since then, I advise

anyone who has been rear ended to assume there is damage, because it seems

most people don't walk away with nothing.

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Of course you have damage! Go to ER NOW! Good luck! Melody

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Re: Question

Personally....i would run not walk to the closest ER. Same happened to me in

1978...the beginning of my problems. But you need to get a medical claim record

started. the longer you wait the easier it will be for them to deny

responsibility.

Danny

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>

> I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but

here goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they

want to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend

my friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

>

> Thanks for any input.

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Yes, there could be more damage and since you've had surgery on your neck, you

should be seen asap so they can evaluate your neck properly. X-rays at the very

least but a new MRI for sure. I would think your surgeon would demand one now

that you have been in rear ended. Whiplash can cause a lot of damage in a

person with a normal neck, much more in someone like you.

Jennette

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From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

neck pain ;

spinal problems

Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 1:49:44 AM

Subject: Question

I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but here

goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they want

to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend my

friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

Thanks for any input.

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Yes! A slow rear end collision can be damaging to a healthy neck. See someone as

soon as you can. Additional injuries can be present but not show up until later.

Jane H.

From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain ,

spinal problems

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:49 AM

 

I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but here

goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they want

to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend my

friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

Thanks for any input.

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, I don't post much as I have become somewhat introverted over the last 2.5

yearss post injury. I do read all of the group posts and your question re: can

being rear ended fron a vehicle moving so slow, (35-40 mph) cause so much

additional pain

? My answer is HECK yes. Slow mph for a rear ender is approx 10=15 mph from a

vehicle which tried to slow. 35-40 mph is a moderate speed. Would cause damage

even without pre-existing condition.

Deb Babcock

Watkins Assoc:382608

www.agape1947.com 

From: <ljorichardson0912@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain ,

spinal problems

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 12:49 AM

 

I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but here

goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and now they want

to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is last weekend my

friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended from a van going

about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all. I had my seat belt on

but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since then.. Could it have done more

damage from getting hit from someone going that slow? I have an appt with my

phsyiatrist next Thurs.

Thanks for any input.

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You absolutely need to go to the emergency room NOW.. And it is not

possible on this site to ask too many questions..

In a message dated 10/30/2009 10:50:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

ljorichardson0912@... writes:

I am the one that has asked several questions, sorry if I ask too many but

here goes. I had surgery Nov 2003 fusion of c5-6 and Feb 2009 c 6-7 and

now they want to do surgery on c 3-5 Nov 22 this year.. Ok so my question is

last weekend my friend and I were stopped at a stop light and was rear ended

from a van going about 35-40 miles a hour and she didnt' slow down at all.

I had my seat belt on but I seem to have been more stiff and sore since

then.. Could it have done more damage from getting hit from someone going

that slow? I have an appt with my phsyiatrist next Thurs.

Thanks for any input.

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