Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Anyone who has compromised health is at greater risk, and that sure includes fat ones. I doubt there are scientific studies yet that prove this, so that won't get it to fat folks first. But we can all work on our own health and get shots, like we should get flu shots every year. Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 2:33:45 PM, you wrote: > I was just reading an article that stated that in addition to the > younger population, the very obese people are being hit hard by this > virus. It stated that in a hospital in one Michigan hospital alone > 9 obese people had been admitted for H1N1, 3 had died and none had > recovered yet. All the more reason to take precautions and get > vaccinated when one is available. Hopefully, if this truly is the > case the very obese people will be given priority for the vaccine when it comes available. -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.riverofdata.com/lapband Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 > I was just reading an article that stated that in addition to the > younger population, the very obese people are being hit hard by this > virus. It stated that in a hospital in one Michigan hospital alone > 9 obese people had been admitted for H1N1, 3 had died and none had > recovered yet. All the more reason to take precautions and get > vaccinated when one is available. Hopefully, if this truly is the > case the very obese people will be given priority for the vaccine when it comes available. -- " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.riverofdata. com/lapband Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I saw that too , but I wonder ... since more than half of the US is obese, wouldn't it follow that most who get the bad cases of this flu would be obese? Is there necessarily a correlation? And many obese people have other health issues too.. At any rate, we should all get the vaccine asap, if we do not have a condition that makes it unwise. Sandy r > > I was just reading an article that stated that in addition to the younger population, the very obese people are being hit hard by this virus. It stated that in a hospital in one Michigan hospital alone 9 obese people had been admitted for H1N1, 3 had died and none had recovered yet. All the more reason to take precautions and get vaccinated when one is available. Hopefully, if this truly is the case the very obese people will be given priority for the vaccine when it comes available. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 > > > From: vitamindcouncil@... > jklegal@... > Subject: H1N1 > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:28:04 -0400 > > September 17, 2009 > > I’m writing to alert readers to a crucial email from a physician who > has evidence vitamin D is protective against H1N1 and to ask you, > the reader, to contact your representatives in Washington to help > protect Americans, especially children, from H1N1 before winter comes. > > Dear Dr. Cannell: > > Your recent newsletters and video about Swine flu (H1N1) prompted me > to convey our recent experience with an H1N1 outbreak at Central > Wisconsin Center (CWC). Unfortunately, the state epidemiologist was > not interested in studying it further so I pass it on to you since I > think it is noteworthy. > > CWC is a long-term care facility for people with developmental > disabilities, home for approx. 275 people with approx. 800 staff. > Serum 25-OHD has been monitored in virtually all residents for > several years and patients supplemented with vitamin D. > > In June, 2009, at the time of the well-publicized Wisconsin spike in > H1N1 cases, two residents developed influenza-like illness (ILI) and > had positive tests for H1N1: one was a long-term resident; the > other, a child, was transferred to us with what was later proven to > be H1N1. > > On the other hand, 60 staff members developed ILI or were documented > to have H1N1: of 17 tested for ILI, eight were positive. An > additional 43 staff members called in sick with ILI. (Approx. 11-12 > staff developed ILI after working on the unit where the child was > given care, several of whom had positive H1N1 tests.) > > So, it is rather remarkable that only two residents of 275 developed > ILI, one of which did not develop it here, while 103 of 800 staff > members had ILI. It appears that the spread of H1N1 was not from > staff-to-resident but from resident-to-staff (most obvious in the > imported case) and between staff, implying that staff were > susceptible and our residents protected. > > > Sincerely, > > Norris Glick, MD > Central Wisconsin Center > Madison, WI > > Dear Dr. Glick: > > This is the first hard data that I am aware of concerning H1N1 and > vitamin D. It appears vitamin D is incredibly protective against > H1N1. Dr. Carmago at Mass General ran the numbers in an email > to me. Even if one excludes 43 staff members who called in sick with > influenza, 0.73% of residents were affected, as compared to 7.5% of > staff. This 10-fold difference was statistically significant > (P<0.001). That is, the chance that this was a chance occurrence is > one less than one in a thousand. > > Second, if you read my last newsletter, you will see that children > with neurological impairments, like the patients at your hospital, > have accounted for 2/3 of the childhood deaths for H1N1 so far in > the USA. That is, the CDC knows, because they reported it, that > patients with neurological impairments are more likely to die from > H1N1. > > The problem is that I cannot get anyone in authority at the CDC or > the NIH to listen. I need readers to email or call their senators > and congresspersons in Washington. > > Ask your senator or congressperson to contact the CDC and NIH to > complain about CDC and NIH inaction on Vitamin D and H1N1. Also, ask > your senators and representative to demand congressional hearings on > Vitamin D and H1N1, before it is too late. Here is the link below, > just click it and follow instructions to contact your own > represenatives. > > http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml > > Cannell, MD > President > Vitamin D Council > 585 Leff Street > San Obispo, CA 93422 > > > > You are currently subscribed to vitamind as: jklegal@... > Add vitamindcouncil@... to your email address book > to ensure delivery > Forward to a Friend | Manage Subscription | Subscribe | > Unsubscribe > > > Find out how here Get Hotmail on your iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 No Crystal the H1N1 is a combination of pig, bird and human flu. It's especially dangerous for pregnant women and you should get it. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> Subject: H1N1 hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 You mean get tested for H1N1? It is an Influenza according to the CDC website. CW -- H1N1 hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 No, I meant get the shot. It's an influenza, but it is a combination of three different types, and for pregnant women it seems to be especially dangerous. Some pregnant women that cought it died. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> Subject: H1N1 hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 oh no, please dont get the vaccine!!! The safety has not been tested! I am pregnant as well (1st trimester-yikes). Everything I have read says it may not be safe for people especially a pregnant woman!! Sara On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > No, I meant get the shot. It's an influenza, but it is a combination of > three different types, and for pregnant women it seems to be especially > dangerous. Some pregnant women that cought it died. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <sweetnwright%40cox.net>> > Subject: H1N1 > hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, > NaturalThyroidHormones <NaturalThyroidHormones%40> > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM > > I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a > thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is > an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering > if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a > low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the > symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? > CW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I am taking some extra vit C and also eating raw garlic. I had tonsilitis at the beginning of my pregnancy and I chopped up raw garlic and let it sit in the back of my throat and then swallowed it (instead of taking antibiotic). It worked!!!! Also drink hot drinks and wash your hands constantly!!! On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sara Lymberis <slymberis@...> wrote: > oh no, please dont get the vaccine!!! The safety has not been tested! I > am pregnant as well (1st trimester-yikes). Everything I have read says it > may not be safe for people especially a pregnant woman!! > Sara > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > >> >> >> No, I meant get the shot. It's an influenza, but it is a combination of >> three different types, and for pregnant women it seems to be especially >> dangerous. Some pregnant women that cought it died. >> >> >> Roni >> <>Just because something >> isn't seen doesn't mean it's >> not there<> >> >> >> >> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <sweetnwright%40cox.net>> >> Subject: H1N1 >> hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones <NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I don't see the point now. I'm pretty sure I have it. I'm more scared of the vaccine than the actual flu. I just want to know whether its regular flu or H1N1 and if any other person on here has had it. CW -- H1N1 hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I have NO plans on getting vaccinated. The news always say it people with underlying conditions that get the sickest, but they don't say what those conditions are. Since Hashi's is an auto-immune disease I was wondering if that was one of the underlying conditions they were referring to? CW -- H1N1 >> hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones@groups com<NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I am interested where you read that info. I am a medical provider and I recommend it to pregnant women; kids and young adults who are the most vulnerable populations as far as the H1N1 virus goes. pregnancy drops your immune system and makes you more vulnerable to infections. A young woman just died from the virus. she was pregnant and they had to deliver her fetus by emergency caesarian to prevent the infant from being infected and dying inutero. the 20 year old mom ended up dying from H1N1. From: Sara Lymberis Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:23 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 oh no, please dont get the vaccine!!! The safety has not been tested! I am pregnant as well (1st trimester-yikes). Everything I have read says it may not be safe for people especially a pregnant woman!! Sara On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > > > No, I meant get the shot. It's an influenza, but it is a combination of > three different types, and for pregnant women it seems to be especially > dangerous. Some pregnant women that cought it died. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <sweetnwright%40cox.net>> > Subject: H1N1 > hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, > NaturalThyroidHormones <NaturalThyroidHormones%40> > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM > > I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a > thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is > an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering > if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a > low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the > symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? > CW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Tonsillitis is not caused by bacteria- it is a viral infection. From: Sara Lymberis Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:30 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 I am taking some extra vit C and also eating raw garlic. I had tonsilitis at the beginning of my pregnancy and I chopped up raw garlic and let it sit in the back of my throat and then swallowed it (instead of taking antibiotic). It worked!!!! Also drink hot drinks and wash your hands constantly!!! On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sara Lymberis <slymberis@...> wrote: > oh no, please dont get the vaccine!!! The safety has not been tested! I > am pregnant as well (1st trimester-yikes). Everything I have read says it > may not be safe for people especially a pregnant woman!! > Sara > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: > >> >> >> No, I meant get the shot. It's an influenza, but it is a combination of >> three different types, and for pregnant women it seems to be especially >> dangerous. Some pregnant women that cought it died. >> >> >> Roni >> <>Just because something >> isn't seen doesn't mean it's >> not there<> >> >> >> >> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <sweetnwright%40cox.net>> >> Subject: H1N1 >> hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones <NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 go get cultured at your providers office. they will send out your culture to see if it grows H1N1 vs. regular influenza. I doubt you have regular influenza since it usually does not arrive this early. Right now we are over whelming seeing H1N1 infections. From: Crystal Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:34 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 I don't see the point now. I'm pretty sure I have it. I'm more scared of the vaccine than the actual flu. I just want to know whether its regular flu or H1N1 and if any other person on here has had it. CW -- H1N1 hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 pregnancy is included in those underlying health diseases and conditions. the others include: diabetes, chronic heart dz; lupus, RA. MS, HIV, Cancer, liver dz, renal dz, and any other immune related dz. From: Crystal Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:37 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 I have NO plans on getting vaccinated. The news always say it people with underlying conditions that get the sickest, but they don't say what those conditions are. Since Hashi's is an auto-immune disease I was wondering if that was one of the underlying conditions they were referring to? CW -- H1N1 >> hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones@groups com<NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Anyone else seen these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEJyUgt7lY8 Watch part 2 as well. 60 Minues from 1979 on Swine Flu vaccines. Very interesting video on Vitamin D. A must watch! Stuff to think about for sure. _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of nancie barnett Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:15 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 go get cultured at your providers office. they will send out your culture to see if it grows H1N1 vs. regular influenza. I doubt you have regular influenza since it usually does not arrive this early. Right now we are over whelming seeing H1N1 infections. From: Crystal Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:34 PM hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Subject: Re: H1N1 I don't see the point now. I'm pretty sure I have it. I'm more scared of the vaccine than the actual flu. I just want to know whether its regular flu or H1N1 and if any other person on here has had it. CW -- H1N1 hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> , NaturalThyroidHormo <mailto:NaturalThyroidHormones%40> nes Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I saw this interesting comment on the very subject... " The CDC also just released a report showing a striking mortality rate among pregnant women. Among 100 pregnant women hospitalized due to influenza infection, 28 died. This is an unprecedented 28% mortality rate! [Washington Post October 2, 2009] There is no way to confirm this alarming report since it is not cited in a published report that can be examined. A CDC transcript only says " 28 pregnant women have died. " (Scare tactic by the CDC?) A published report does show 6 of 45 pregnant women infected with the pandemic H1N1 virus infection died during the period from April 15 to June 16, 2009. [Lancet 374; 451–57, 2009] However, no data is provided that vaccination prevented the women who survived from a fatal consequence. " http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi125.html -Ken Bagwell > > From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> > Subject: H1N1 > hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM > > I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a > thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is > an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering > if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a > low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the > symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? > CW > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I know that there's a risk of guillain barre with the vaccines, but I'd rather take a chance at that, then dying. My son already had the seasonal flu vaccine a few weeks ago and just got sick last night with a bad cough and a fever over 100. He has an appointment at 11am this morning. I'm hoping they give him an anti viral medication, because a few years ago he had the regular flu and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Now I don't know what to do if they aren't checking for swine flu when he goes in....do I still get him the vaccine when it's available or assume he's had it? Can it hurt someone if they already had it? In a message dated 10/19/2009 10:17:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, deifspirit@... writes: pregnancy is included in those underlying health diseases and conditions. the others include: diabetes, chronic heart dz; lupus, RA. MS, HIV, Cancer, liver dz, renal dz, and any other immune related dz. From: Crystal Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:37 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 I have NO plans on getting vaccinated. The news always say it people with underlying conditions that get the sickest, but they don't say what those conditions are. Since Hashi's is an auto-immune disease I was wondering if that was one of the underlying conditions they were referring to? CW -- H1N1 >> hypothyroidism <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones@groups com<NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I personally would not get or allow any children of mine to take the nasal spray vaccine because it contains live virus. The shot contains dead virus and that's the one I will get for the H1N1. I already had the regular flu shot and had no reaction at all. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> >> >> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <sweetnwright%40cox.net>> >> Subject: H1N1 >> hypothyroidism  <hypothyroidism%40>, >> NaturalThyroidHormones@groups com<NaturalThyroidHormones%40> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a >> thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 >> is >> an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm >> wondering >> if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a >> low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the >> symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? >> CW >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Crystal wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a > thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is > an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering > if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a > low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the > symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? > CW There's not a chance in this lifetime that I would take the swine flu shot or any flu shot for that mater, no chance at all. This is doubly unlike if I had any kind of disease, health condition, was young, old, or pregnant (although highly unlikely). It's not a fear of needles since I self inject with Testosterone once a week and HCG twice a week. Flu vaccines are not only a waste of time and money, but they decrease health. Recent research in Canada noted that people who got a regular flu shot were twice as likely to get the flu. In the past 20 years, there were two years when the " guess " as to what was going to be the season flu was completely wrong and the flu shot contained NO related strains. Flu incidents for both those years did not spike, they did not go up at all. The flu shot only makes money for it's manufactures, it does only negative things for the receivers. Additionally, this year the swine flu has adjuvants which have never passed FDA approvial, never been fully tested especially long term, and may comprimise the immune systems of some percentage of the population. More and more health professionals are refusing to take the swine flu. In Germany the health community has categorically refused and the Germain government has ordered the flu shot to be formulated without adjutants and mercury in the hopes that health professions will take the shot. In places in the US, judges have issues " stays " from legal requirements that health profession take the flu shot. The reduction in diseases world wide and in specific countries doesn't appear to be correlated with injection rates for any particular disease but is highly correlated with improved medical practices and health cleanliness practices that reduced the spread of diseases. The very best way that I'm aware of lowering the chance of flu, cold, infections, etc., is to get my blood vitamin D levels up above 50 ng/ml and closer to 80 ng/ml. Most people need to take 5000 IU of D3 per day to raise their blood levels up to this range. Since vitamin D blood levels have a half life of several weeks, after getting one's blood levels tested, taking 50,000 IU/day of D3 for 1-2 weeks and then going on to 5000 IU/D3 per day schedule would jump start the process. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Many people who've had it don't even know they've had it. Often the symptoms are less sever than the regular flu [whatever that is]. At the same time regular flu kills thousands each year; a few years back my allergy specialist died with it. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@... > <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20H1N1> > sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1> > > > Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:39 pm (PDT) > > > > I don't see the point now. I'm pretty sure I have it. I'm more scared of > the vaccine than the actual flu. I just want to know whether its regular > flu or H1N1 and if any other person on here has had it. > CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 And what evidence is there that this is true (the dangerous part)? This flu is less dangerous than the regular flu. Death rates for the regular flu are not very high since pneumonia and flu are lumped together in statistics and 19/20 deaths on those statics are from pneumonia, a bacteria infect that is usually treatable. Again, get one's vitamin D blood levels into the 50-80 ng/ml range. If this flu shot causes problems, the makers are exempt from legal ramifications in the USA by law. If they screw up and the KNOW they are screwing up, there are no legal consequences and they still rake in a profit. No company should be exempt from liability but that's the case for vaccine makers in the USA. Steve Roni Molin wrote: > No Crystal the H1N1 is a combination of pig, bird and human flu. It's especially dangerous for pregnant women and you should get it. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > > From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...> > Subject: H1N1 > hypothyroidism , NaturalThyroidHormones > Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:23 AM > > > I'm wondering if anyone has had the H1N1 virus and how it can effect a > thyroid patient? I'm pregnant with Hashi's. I just found out the H1N1 is > an Influenza A. Two of my children just had influenza A, now I'm wondering > if it was H1N1. I woke up today with a sore throat and a cough and a > low-grade fever. I guess the docs aren't testing for H1N1 unless the > symptoms are severe enough. Any suggestions???? > CW -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 My somewhat uneducated guess is that Hashi's is not the type of auto-immune condition to which the concerns are directed. I would suspect the concern is more for those who have weakened auto-immune systems. AFAIK the auto-immune system of a Hashi's patient is functioning normally except for the target of its action. Those with none functioning auto-immune systems or those weakened such as organ transplant patients are probably of more concern. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@... > <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20H1N1> > sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1> > > > Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:42 pm (PDT) > > > > I have NO plans on getting vaccinated. The news always say it people with > underlying conditions that get the sickest, but they don't say what those > conditions are. Since Hashi's is an auto-immune disease I was wondering if > that was one of the underlying conditions they were referring to? > CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Crystal wrote: > You mean get tested for H1N1? It is an Influenza according to the CDC > website. > CW The sad thing about being tested is that a day or two goes by before someone goes to see a doctor to be checked and it can take one to several days, usually several days, to get the results from a test. The two drugs that are prescribed if the test is positive are designed to prevent viral replication and must be administered within 48 hours to have the desired effect. After that, you are wasting your money and health for the mere opportunity to get the side effects of the drug. I considered buying some Tamaflu on the international market and keeping it as an emergency supply in case of any wide pandemic that would leave the drug unavailable locally, but when I researched it, I realized one doesn't want to take it if there is no need and by the time any need is determined, it's usually to late to work. Keeping vitamin D optimum is a much better option. -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I would disagree! (Politely, of course!) Hashi's is a thyroid problem, and thyroid is a HUGE part of the immune system. I wouldn't get it if I had Hashi's. Of course, I wouldn't get it at all! Take Vitamin D (1000mg or IU per 50lbs of body weight minimum - 150lb person would take 3000mg) will keep you from getting the flu, and if you do get it you'll get over it faster. I'm personally taking 5000mg a day, because that was what I saw would keep all colds, flu, cancer and autoimmune diseases at bay! (See the video I posted earlier.) _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:26 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 My somewhat uneducated guess is that Hashi's is not the type of auto-immune condition to which the concerns are directed. I would suspect the concern is more for those who have weakened auto-immune systems. AFAIK the auto-immune system of a Hashi's patient is functioning normally except for the target of its action. Those with none functioning auto-immune systems or those weakened such as organ transplant patients are probably of more concern. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@ <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net> cox.net > <mailto:sweetnwright@ <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net> cox.net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20H1N1> > sweetenloe1 <http://profiles. <sweetenloe1> /sweetenloe1> > > > Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:42 pm (PDT) > > > > I have NO plans on getting vaccinated. The news always say it people with > underlying conditions that get the sickest, but they don't say what those > conditions are. Since Hashi's is an auto-immune disease I was wondering if > that was one of the underlying conditions they were referring to? > CW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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