Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I wouldn't get the spray vaccine because those virus are still alive. I would only get the dead vaccine shot. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. > > -- Re: H1N1 > > The worst flu I ever had I got right after getting a flu shot. That was my > first and last flu shot. > > Now if I feel something coming on I take 2,000 to 3,000 mgs of Vitamin C > every 2 hours for a day (or two depending) and I don't get sick. > > Terry -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 You wrote, >It can be a " hot lot " where the virus was not completely inactivated. People infected by hot lots are never informed. Congress has been influenced to provide legal immunity to vaccine makers so even if you were informed of the vaccine caused infection, you would have no legal recourse against the vaccine makers. What year was this terrible legislation enacted? Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. TerryW replied: > So within a couple of days of getting a flu shot I get the flu worse than I've ever had the flu in my life and it lasted 2 weeks....... Sorry, no one will ever convince me it didn't come from the shot. It can be a " hot lot " where the virus was not completely inactivated. People infected by hot lots are never informed. Congress has been influenced to provide legal immunity to vaccine makers so even if you were informed of the vaccine caused infection, you would have no legal recourse against the vaccine makers. No one should have legal immunity as that decreases the business case to provide safe well tested products as a protection against legal repercussions. Special " laws " and regulation gets in the way of effective markets. Greed produces more goods and services driving prices down and quality up and the fear of loss from bad products drives quality up to prevent that loss. Laws/regulations get in the way of quality improvements and price improvements. " Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone. " - Maynard Keynes -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Getting a virus via a shot is not how the body normally gets a virus, so the body does not necessarily make antibodies the way it should. We normally get those things via the nose/mouth/eyes and that way our bodies recognize and deal with it the way it knows how. I have seen too many things that suggest that vaccines don't work very well if at all. I realize you have not seen those things. At this point I will never get another vaccine, or subject my children to them because the side effects are not worth it. Our bodies are made to destroy viruses and such if you give it the proper things to do so, like Vit D, Vit C, plenty of good water, and organic fruits/veggies/meats (if you eat meat). I used to believe that vaccines were good. Now I've seen too many things that suggest otherwise. You are a grownup and can make your own decisions. _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:22 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 I'm sorry. That just doesn't make sense. It's giving the body antibodies, which make our abiity to fight an illness greater not lesser. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > What is true is that people who get a regular flu shot are as much as > twice as likely to catch the flu in any given year so if there were no > flu shots given one year, death rates and flu incidences would likely drop. Study links seasonal flu vaccine to increased risk for swine flu Some 7,000 people took advantage of the free flu shots offered in Knox County last weekend. But a new study suggests the vaccine could do more harm than good. Local health officials are reserving judgment for now. " There's been some research done by some Canadian scientists and doctors that might indicate that getting a seasonal flu shot will increase your risk of getting H1N1 flu, " Dr. Martha Buchanan, Medical Director of the Knox County Health Department said. The report has prompted concern and confusion around the country, but it may be a bit soon. It hasn't been published, and it has yet to go through the rigorous review process. " We like to see things repeated, we like to see things verified, we like to really look at those things carefully and make sure it's a valid conclusion, " Buchanan said. Officials would also like to verify that it is a conclusion applicable outside of Canada. " We would want to start looking to see 'Are we seeing that in the United States, or is it just something in that one study?' " Buchanan said. So far the study has done little more than add to the confusion over the flu. " Once it gets published and our experts can look at it, I'm sure they will. But we do spend a lot of our time stomping out myths, " Buchanan said. The health department still expects the first doses of H1N1 flu vaccine to be available starting next month. http://www.wbir. <http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=100516 & catid=2> com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=100516 & catid=2 -- Steve - dudescholar4@ <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> basicmail.net " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvoc <http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html> ates.org/quiz.html ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 An example might be modern fruit. Often they are grown very large but their nutrient density is much lower than smaller more wild fruit. The virus injections cause a reaction in the body that is most likely not identical to a naturally caught infection. What they are finding in Canada (and I don't think Americans are any different), is that regular flu injections make one's immune system less able to fight off other viral infections that are new. In other words, if one million people get the flu shot and one million people don't get the flu shot, the number of people in each group that get the flu the following and subsequent years is significantly greater in the people who got the flu shot when compared to the people that got no such shot. What component or components are in those vaccines that make the immune system less healthy, perhaps for the rest of one's life? Steve Roni Molin wrote: > I'm sorry. That just doesn't make sense. It's giving the body antibodies, which make > our abiity to fight an illness greater not lesser. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > >> What is true is that people who get a regular flu shot are as much as >> twice as likely to catch the flu in any given year so if there were no >> flu shots given one year, death rates and flu incidences would likely drop. > > Study links seasonal flu vaccine to increased risk for swine flu > Some 7,000 people took advantage of the free flu shots offered in Knox > County last weekend. But a new study suggests the vaccine could do more > harm than good. > > Local health officials are reserving judgment for now. > > " There's been some research done by some Canadian scientists and doctors > that might indicate that getting a seasonal flu shot will increase your > risk of getting H1N1 flu, " Dr. Martha Buchanan, Medical Director of the > Knox County Health Department said. > > The report has prompted concern and confusion around the country, but it > may be a bit soon. It hasn't been published, and it has yet to go > through the rigorous review process. > > " We like to see things repeated, we like to see things verified, we like > to really look at those things carefully and make sure it's a valid > conclusion, " Buchanan said. > > Officials would also like to verify that it is a conclusion applicable > outside of Canada. > > " We would want to start looking to see 'Are we seeing that in the United > States, or is it just something in that one study?' " Buchanan said. > > So far the study has done little more than add to the confusion over the > flu. > > " Once it gets published and our experts can look at it, I'm sure they > will. But we do spend a lot of our time stomping out myths, " Buchanan said. > > The health department still expects the first doses of H1N1 flu vaccine > to be available starting next month. > > http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=100516 & catid=2 > > > -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Vaccines have for the most part wiped out several major illnesses, among them polio, measles, chicken pox as well as the older ones that I haven't ever seen. What you're saying about them not providing immunity in a subsequent year still doesn't make sense to me. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Steve <dudescholar4@...> Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 8:03 PM An example might be modern fruit. Often they are grown very large but their nutrient density is much lower than smaller more wild fruit. The virus injections cause a reaction in the body that is most likely not identical to a naturally caught infection. What they are finding in Canada (and I don't think Americans are any different), is that regular flu injections make one's immune system less able to fight off other viral infections that are new. In other words, if one million people get the flu shot and one million people don't get the flu shot, the number of people in each group that get the flu the following and subsequent years is significantly greater in the people who got the flu shot when compared to the people that got no such shot. What component or components are in those vaccines that make the immune system less healthy, perhaps for the rest of one's life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 because it takes between 5 to 7 days to incubate the virus within your body and then another 3 to 5 days on the average to get symptoms! it is clear that you were Already infected with the flu virus by the time you got your shot and subsequently developed the symptoms. Ergo it was a coincidence. The flu shot is made from INACTIVATED virus in whx we take out the DNA out of the cell. This kills the virus. All the vaccine does is to cause your body to produce antibodies against the flu virus strain aka antigen. You Need to read up on how the shot is created. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/fluvaccine.htm From: TerryW Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. So within a couple of days of getting a flu shot I get the flu worse than I've ever had the flu in my life and it lasted 2 weeks....... Sorry, no one will ever convince me it didn't come from the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 to " create " the infection in your body- it all depends on how healthy your immune system is and how much stress it is under. if your immune system is weak then the time it usually takes for symptoms to develop will be shorter or less and if your immune system is stronger- a longer period. From: Roni Molin Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:42 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 Nancie what is the incubation time for flu? Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: TerryW <blazingsaddles@...> Subject: Re: H1N1 hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 2:43 AM Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. So within a couple of days of getting a flu shot I get the flu worse than I've ever had the flu in my life and it lasted 2 weeks....... Sorry, no one will ever convince me it didn't come from the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 your president has now signed a state of emergency over the H1N1.. I sincerely hope you are not forced to take this very toxic vaccine. Please keep the group informed if things do turn nasty at any time, we in Europe hope to avoid mandatory vaccination..but this is a serious situation. www.theflucase.com ajd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Nancie, All your emails go to my spam box and I have to extricate them and put them back into my inbox. Is there any way that I can get them to go to my inbox in the first place? Of course I agree with what you said about taking the shot and getting the flu a couple days later. I can't believe the amount of disinformation out there as well as lack of understanding as to how this works in the first place. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 11:29 PM because it takes between 5 to 7 days to incubate the virus within your body and then another 3 to 5 days on the average to get symptoms! it is clear that you were Already infected with the flu virus by the time you got your shot and subsequently developed the symptoms. Ergo it was a coincidence. The flu shot is made from INACTIVATED virus in whx we take out the DNA out of the cell. This kills the virus. All the vaccine does is to cause your body to produce antibodies against the flu virus strain aka antigen. You Need to read up on how the shot is created. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/fluvaccine.htm From: TerryW Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. So within a couple of days of getting a flu shot I get the flu worse than I've ever had the flu in my life and it lasted 2 weeks....... Sorry, no one will ever convince me it didn't come from the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Miscommunication on my part. The flu vaccine decreases one immune system's ability to fight subsequent " new " virus. The value of the flu vaccine for the virus-du-jour, if they guessed right, is marginal at best, but detrimental to future " new " flu viruses. People who actually get an annual flu vaccine are more likely to get future " new " flu viruses. I didn't extrapolate to other illnesses but they too are marginal. When 95-98 percent of a population was vaccinated earlier in the last century, there were still 100s of 1000s of cases of many diseases among vaccine recipients, but that's another discussion. Changes in cleanliness and isolation standards were undergoing change at the same time vaccines were becoming prevalent. The decrease in disease rates were all attributed to vaccines, but comparisons between inoculated and non-inoculated population samples tell a different story. Again, that's a different discussion. Steve Roni Molin wrote: > Vaccines have for the most part wiped out several major illnesses, among them polio, measles, chicken pox as well as the older ones that I haven't ever seen. What you're saying about them not providing immunity in a subsequent year still doesn't make > sense to me. > > > Roni > <>Just because something > isn't seen doesn't mean it's > not there<> > > > > > From: Steve <dudescholar4@...> > Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 > hypothyroidism > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 8:03 PM > > > An example might be modern fruit. Often they are grown very large but > their nutrient density is much lower than smaller more wild fruit. The > virus injections cause a reaction in the body that is most likely not > identical to a naturally caught infection. What they are finding in > Canada (and I don't think Americans are any different), is that regular > flu injections make one's immune system less able to fight off other > viral infections that are new. In other words, if one million people > get the flu shot and one million people don't get the flu shot, the > number of people in each group that get the flu the following and > subsequent years is significantly greater in the people who got the flu > shot when compared to the people that got no such shot. > > What component or components are in those vaccines that make the immune > system less healthy, perhaps for the rest of one's life? -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 It's things like this article that make me doubt that vaccines worked. This is just one of many I found. I read all the articles on this site (there are 9 listed at the bottom) and they are consistent with information I've found on various other sites. This one is more concise and easier to read. http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of Roni Molin Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:45 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 Vaccines have for the most part wiped out several major illnesses, among them polio, measles, chicken pox as well as the older ones that I haven't ever seen. What you're saying about them not providing immunity in a subsequent year still doesn't make sense to me. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: Steve <dudescholar4@ <mailto:dudescholar4%40basicmail.net> basicmail.net> Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 hypothyroidism@ <mailto:hypothyroidism%40> Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 8:03 PM An example might be modern fruit. Often they are grown very large but their nutrient density is much lower than smaller more wild fruit. The virus injections cause a reaction in the body that is most likely not identical to a naturally caught infection. What they are finding in Canada (and I don't think Americans are any different), is that regular flu injections make one's immune system less able to fight off other viral infections that are new. In other words, if one million people get the flu shot and one million people don't get the flu shot, the number of people in each group that get the flu the following and subsequent years is significantly greater in the people who got the flu shot when compared to the people that got no such shot. What component or components are in those vaccines that make the immune system less healthy, perhaps for the rest of one's life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Do you have references for this information? Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> > > > From: Steve <dudescholar4@...> > Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 > hypothyroidism > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 8:03 PM > > > An example might be modern fruit. Often they are grown very large but > their nutrient density is much lower than smaller more wild fruit. The > virus injections cause a reaction in the body that is most likely not > identical to a naturally caught infection. What they are finding in > Canada (and I don't think Americans are any different), is that regular > flu injections make one's immune system less able to fight off other > viral infections that are new. In other words, if one million people > get the flu shot and one million people don't get the flu shot, the > number of people in each group that get the flu the following and > subsequent years is significantly greater in the people who got the flu > shot when compared to the people that got no such shot. > > What component or components are in those vaccines that make the immune > system less healthy, perhaps for the rest of one's life? -- Steve - dudescholar4@... " The Problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of Other People's Money. " --Margaret Thatcher " Mistrust of Government is the Bedrock of American Patriotism " Take World's Smallest Political Quiz at http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 have you added my name and email to your address book/contact list in your email account? From: Roni Molin Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:04 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 Nancie, All your emails go to my spam box and I have to extricate them and put them back into my inbox. Is there any way that I can get them to go to my inbox in the first place? Of course I agree with what you said about taking the shot and getting the flu a couple days later. I can't believe the amount of disinformation out there as well as lack of understanding as to how this works in the first place. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> From: nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> Subject: Re: Re: H1N1 hypothyroidism Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 11:29 PM because it takes between 5 to 7 days to incubate the virus within your body and then another 3 to 5 days on the average to get symptoms! it is clear that you were Already infected with the flu virus by the time you got your shot and subsequently developed the symptoms. Ergo it was a coincidence. The flu shot is made from INACTIVATED virus in whx we take out the DNA out of the cell. This kills the virus. All the vaccine does is to cause your body to produce antibodies against the flu virus strain aka antigen. You Need to read up on how the shot is created. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/fluvaccine.htm From: TerryW Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: H1N1 Just to let you know that it is impossible to get the flu from the vaccine. So within a couple of days of getting a flu shot I get the flu worse than I've ever had the flu in my life and it lasted 2 weeks....... Sorry, no one will ever convince me it didn't come from the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 re: article on the cdc website - That's the article I was looking for! Thank you SO much! Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I think the vaccine is in short supply everywhere. I haven't been able to get it for either my daughters or myself yet, and we're near SF, CA, although we did get the seasonal flu vaccine. My 14-year-old just got over what they thought was probably swine flu, and my GP put me on a prophylactic course of Tamiflu since I'm just three months out from my chemo treatment. Twelve days after my last infusion of chemo, I came down with something nasty from my husband, and it might have been swine flu, but also could have been a cold. No one seems to be testing for H1N1. Six days of mostly fever, fatigue, sore throat, and congestion before the fever dropped to 99 for 2-3 more days. My onc put me on 10 days of Levaquin when the fever first appeared, and had me do a chest X-ray on the sixth day, when the temp was still over 100, to make sure my lungs were clear. Fortunately, they were. I've been good since then, but was really glad to get the Tamiflu to prevent getting the flu from my daughter. Not only H1N1 vaccines, but my pharmacist recently told my that there's a national shortage of Acyclovir, and they're having trouble getting it. My onc switched me to Valtrex, which is a LOT more expensive. Sure hope they come out with more vaccines soon. Katherina H1N1 Just wondering if anyone on this list has been unlucky enough to contract this flu? I am wondering how we will fare if we do contract it. I am unable to convince the county health dept that I should get the vaccine. They have so little vaccine that they are strictly limiting it to children and pregnant women. Are others having trouble getting the vaccine as well? I live in a very rural area and we have not gotten much vaccine yet. R Adks NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Russ, We don't have much vaccine in Texas either. They are only giving it to children and pregnant women here as well. I am hoping the MDA cancer center will get some while I am there next week. I will let the group know if vaccine is available. I wish I could take the shingles shot. Carol, 59, dx CLL/SLL April fools/02, zap 70+, platelets 103, WBC 4.0, HGB 11.5, currently no CLL in bone marrow waiting breast cancer surgery treatment: 2004 initial tx w Rituxan and with GM-CSF , 2005 2nd cycle of Rituxan and with GM-CSF, Nov 2007 FCR & GM-CSF-remission H1N1 Just wondering if anyone on this list has been unlucky enough to contract this flu? I am wondering how we will fare if we do contract it. I am unable to convince the county health dept that I should get the vaccine. They have so little vaccine that they are strictly limiting it to children and pregnant women. Are others having trouble getting the vaccine as well? I live in a very rural area and we have not gotten much vaccine yet. R Adks NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I have CLL friends from another list who have gotten the flu - not confirmed H1N1 - who have been quite ill. It has gone through the families from then down to the grands (or up from the grands). I guess we continue to keep up the hand washing, gells, etc, and to avoid crowde. Pat H1N1 Just wondering if anyone on this list has been unlucky enough to contract this flu? I am wondering how we will fare if we do contract it. I am unable to convince the county health dept that I should get the vaccine. They have so little vaccine that they are strictly limiting it to children and pregnant women. Are others having trouble getting the vaccine as well? I live in a very rural area and we have not gotten much vaccine yet. R Adks NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 --- I agree that the vaccine is in short supply everywhere. It should go to certain ones first..and we ARE among the first ones with underlying medical conditions. I went to the health clinic with my papers ready to prove what ailed me. The nurse knew me anyway so she knew I am CLL and gave me the injection. She didn't want to look at my papers because she said they take peoples's word for it and give the injection to anyone anyway. Well, that doesn't sound right to me. This week at my school where I teach, the students will be getting the Flu-Mist. I wear a mask each day, but am considering taking off a few days while the mist is in the air. It is scary. Whenever I get bronchitis or colds, etc, I have a hard time getting over it. Hope everyone stays H1N1 Free. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 --- I agree that the vaccine is in short supply everywhere. It should go to certain ones first..and we ARE among the first ones with underlying medical conditions. I went to the health clinic with my papers ready to prove what ailed me. The nurse knew me anyway so she knew I am CLL and gave me the injection. She didn't want to look at my papers because she said they take peoples's word for it and give the injection to anyone anyway. Well, that doesn't sound right to me. This week at my school where I teach, the students will be getting the Flu-Mist. I wear a mask each day, but am considering taking off a few days while the mist is in the air. It is scary. Whenever I get bronchitis or colds, etc, I have a hard time getting over it. Hope everyone stays H1N1 Free. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 , I got both (seasonal and H1N1) on the same day and didn't get a reaction. Chris From: jb50192@... <jb50192@...>Subject: H1N1 Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:09 PM I found a clinic in New York City that says they'll give it to me and my caregiver. Planning to do it tomorrow. Anyone had it and got a bad reaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009  Hi, I received regular flu shot one day and H1N1 the next. We were told by the public health nurse to expect a greater reaction from the H1N1 and I did have a bit of nausea the evening after the shot but I was fine the next day. Edythe H1N1 Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:09 PM I found a clinic in New York City that says they'll give it to me and my caregiver. Planning to do it tomorrow. Anyone had it and got a bad reaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 and all, I got the seasonal flu shot about 6 weeks ago because it is readily available. Then 3 weeks ago the H1N1 shot was available and I got that. Have felt fine..no change or symptoms at all from either one. Doctors around here in small towns of southern KY are not getting the vaccines. Only the health departments have them. Some places have drive-throughs. I thought that was funny. When I called a nurse at the health dept whose knows I am a CLLer, she said she would come out to my car when I got there so I wouldn't have to come in and be exposed to those inside getting the mist. And she did..free of charge and all. The first ones who are supposed to get the injection are children, health care workers who care for babies, and people with underlying medical conditions. Well, I think we with CLL fit into that category. I don't understand why some of you cannot get it. My husband is 70 and he cannot get it yet. His age group will be the last to get it. Supposedly people over 50 may have antibodies in their systems from living in other years where they may have been exposed to some strains that are similar to this. In KY we have had 20 deaths from H1N1 and all have been 30 years old or younger. Judy > > I found a clinic in New York City that says they'll give it to me and my > caregiver. > > Planning to do it tomorrow. > > Anyone had it and got a bad reaction? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 The distribution system, as well as the rules of who can get it, are very mixed up in New York City. Best thing to do is get on the NYC Health Dept. web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I live in British Columbia, Canada and the H1N1 and regular flu shots are free through our universal healthcare. In our province they were giving the flu shots first to people with a cronic condition, diabetes, or asthma....then to children 6 months to 5 years....this week I think they are targeting children between 6 and 18 years. The clinic I went to was very orderly, we got a chit that told us what time to come back at...we arrived back at the clinic at the time specified and were out of there in half an hour. I guess I am lucky to be in Canada. Edythe H1N1 Hi all -Thanks to all of you who have shared about getting their H1N1 shots. Is it possible to let us know what area you live in and/or where you got your shots? (if that's too "probing", it's ok, but I think it might help others in the area if they're searching). E.g., in the L.A. area, people are having the darndest time finding drs. who have the vaccine. There are lots of clinics (run by the County Health Dept.) all over the city though, where (supposedly) uninsured people cue up at dawn (some even the night before) to get shots. However, my 2 1/2 yr. old granddaughter's dr. hasn't gotten any vaccine yet; my hematologist at UCLA hasn't gotten vaccine yet, etc., etc. Rather than myself, I'm mostly busy trying to get my son and his wife to get their little one vaccinated right now - but, they're not comfortable standing in line at a clinic thinking they'll be cutting ahead of someone who's uninsured and/or possibly be exposed to sick people. (However, I don't think sick people (w/cold or flu) can expect to be given the shots, right?)Lately, I was also concerned about the idea of facing a large extended family gathering at this upcoming Thanksgiving holiday - you know there's going to be someone there who's coughing and sneezing, right? So I called my dr., whose advice was to just go to Thanksgiving, wash my hands a lot and wear a mask if it appears someone there has a cold.(!?!) Sounds simple enough - I can do that. But, as far as I know, as of yesterday, my g'daughter and about 4 or 5 other young cousins haven't yet received their shots. It's ridiculous to even think that they would would keep masks on for more than 5 seconds.So, what's a grandmother to do!!? (just kidding)But, seriously, I'd really appreciate advice from anyone re: this vaccine search, as well as ideas about how to safely mingle w/ a large crowd at Thanksgiving.Thanks - this is such a great site!Trudy (SoCal)71 yrs. old, dx UCLA - 3/07 -SLL- trisomy 12, w+w until 4/09, several nodes grew larger - 9, 10 cm - one dangerously near my kidney, tx - UCLA - FCR (6 x) 4/09 - 9/09, main problems from diverticulosis during treatment, CR 10/09! doing well since, hoping for a nice long remission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Here in North Carolina, students at public universities are being offered the nasal H1N1 vaccine. With justification, they can receive the injected vaccine instead. The Duke University Medical Center clinic at which I see my hem/onc doc is currently prioritizing who among its immunocompromised patients get the (injected) vaccine first, due to limited supplies. Those undergoing treatment and transplant recipients are among those who have priority. The rest of us are waiting for the supplies to open up, hopefully within a few days. (I just rec'd i.v. immunoglobulins last week, so I may not be anywhere near the top of the priority list.) Cheers, Demi (age 56; mutated; currently " minimimal residual disease " ; treated w/ FCR in 2006, FR in 1999, chlorambucil+prednisone in 1995). ---- Edythe Barrie <webarrie@...> wrote: > I live in British Columbia, Canada and the H1N1 and regular flu shots are free through our universal healthcare. In our province they were giving the flu shots first to people with a cronic condition, diabetes, or asthma....then to children 6 months to 5 years....this week I think they are targeting children between 6 and 18 years. The clinic I went to was very orderly, we got a chit that told us what time to come back at...we arrived back at the clinic at the time specified and were out of there in half an hour. I guess I am lucky to be in Canada. > Edythe > H1N1 > > > > Hi all - > > Thanks to all of you who have shared about getting their H1N1 shots. > Is it possible to let us know what area you live in and/or where you > got your shots? (if that's too " probing " , it's ok, but I think it > might help others in the area if they're searching). E.g., in the > L.A. area, people are having the darndest time finding drs. who have > the vaccine. There are lots of clinics (run by the County Health > Dept.) all over the city though, where (supposedly) uninsured people > cue up at dawn (some even the night before) to get shots. However, my > 2 1/2 yr. old granddaughter's dr. hasn't gotten any vaccine yet; my > hematologist at UCLA hasn't gotten vaccine yet, etc., etc. Rather > than myself, I'm mostly busy trying to get my son and his wife to get > their little one vaccinated right now - but, they're not comfortable > standing in line at a clinic thinking they'll be cutting ahead of > someone who's uninsured and/or possibly be exposed to sick people. > (However, I don't think sick people (w/cold or flu) can expect to be > given the shots, right?) > > Lately, I was also concerned about the idea of facing a large > extended family gathering at this upcoming Thanksgiving holiday - you > know there's going to be someone there who's coughing and sneezing, > right? So I called my dr., whose advice was to just go to > Thanksgiving, wash my hands a lot and wear a mask if it appears > someone there has a cold.(!?!) Sounds simple enough - I can do that. > But, as far as I know, as of yesterday, my g'daughter and about 4 or > 5 other young cousins haven't yet received their shots. It's > ridiculous to even think that they would would keep masks on for more > than 5 seconds. > > So, what's a grandmother to do!!? (just kidding) > > But, seriously, I'd really appreciate advice from anyone re: this > vaccine search, as well as ideas about how to safely mingle w/ a > large crowd at Thanksgiving. > > Thanks - this is such a great site! > > Trudy (SoCal) > > 71 yrs. old, dx UCLA - 3/07 -SLL- trisomy 12, w+w until 4/09, several > nodes grew larger - 9, 10 cm - one dangerously near my kidney, tx - > UCLA - FCR (6 x) 4/09 - 9/09, main problems from diverticulosis > during treatment, CR 10/09! doing well since, hoping for a nice long > remission > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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