Shingles

[Guest guest]

For Shingles, or any other herpes viruses, I recommend reading this free online

(short) book called: " Treating Herpes Naturally with Larrea Tridentata " by W.

Dennis , Ph.D.

http://www.awakening-healing.com/Books/TreatingHerpesNaturally.pdf

This ASU professor and researcher puts out a good argument why this desert herb

is much more effective than prescription anti-virals. It's supposed to stop the

virus from replicating.

For me, Famvir and Valtrex did nothing, and taking this herb daily, or even

every other day eventually, has prevented any viral outbreaks since August,

2009.

LDN might be effective as well in the long run, but keep in mind that it might

stir up viral activity in the beginning - like it does with candida, while

making initial adjustments to the immune system.

These sites have short pages about the benefits of LarreaRx, as well as being

places to order.

http://www.taoofherbs.com/products/518/ViroxLarreaRx/LarreaRxVirox.htm

http://reallywell.com/larrea.htm

Karyn

>

> Yes, my husband had shingles and when we spoke to the Doctor, she said that

there was no other real " treatment " for the shingles and that the LDN could not

hurt. In fact, we believe that it shortened his case considerably and that is a

good thing with such a frustrating and painful condition.

>

> Yes, try the LDN. The body's own defense is the best treatment for most

viruses, in my opinion.

>

> Francie

> http://LDN-for-MS.com

>

[Guest guest]

Karyn,

Thanks for your suggestion.

Phil Flournoy

[Guest guest]

hi  i have been on ldn for a year for fibro cfs, hashimotos. i have had shingles for one year and a half break out every couple of months and  the last time was 2mo ago still very bad .It  never in the same place and has been on bothe sides at the same time. ldn apparently has not helped with that but, has definately allowed me to function again w less pain and has helped greatly overall!!!   antivirals  NEVER have helped         tina

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Phil Flournoy <pflournoysr@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone,

 

LDN has been a miracle for me.  But now my bride of 53 years has shingles.  Does anyone have any experience with LDN in the treatment of shingles.  She has a very bad case and is taking antiviral and steroid medications which seem to be helping a little.

 

You all have been great in helping me over the past 3 years as I took my prostate cancer into remission with LDN alone.

 

Philip Flournoy

[Guest guest]

I too have had repeated out breaks of the shingles. They are so painful and not sure why I would get them repeatedly. I do grow the Lemon balm and will try that too. would like to know why someone can keep getting them over and over again always in the same spot. I have not been on LDN now for a few months at doctors request. I have been having a terrible time with my complexion since off the LDN another mystery. I was taking LDN for Fibromyalgia, MPS.

-- Be in God's Light and Let Peace and love surround you there!

[Guest guest]

I was in an intense relationship, and the damm broke, it seems

so long ago, really about four years now. But about two weeks later I

have this shingle appear on my temple, very near my eye. My dock sent

me to a specialist. she ask me what has been so traumatic in my life.

Am a bit bewildered, but tell her of the broken relationship, so she

gives me this med and said a little prayer that hoped it did not get

into my eye. It went away within a couple days.

So anywho, it must be some traumatic incident that causes these, my

first and hope my last shingle. Now fast forward to my current sweety,

she is a diabetic, juvenile and gets them often, we began taking

Betaine HCL about six weeks ago, with other digestive enzymes, so far

she has not had one shingle, normally they appear in the small of her

back. But her disposition has improved, by that I mean little things

stay little things, and her reactions are appropriate to the incident,

since beginning digestives enzymes. And I am doing well. But six weeks

is not very long for her without shingles, so one could come at any

time.

I know they are damm painful, david lubbock tx.

On 4/15/11, Nagy <lindanagy73@...> wrote:

> I too have had repeated out breaks of the shingles. They are so painful and

> not sure why I would get them repeatedly. I do grow the Lemon balm and will

> try that too. would like to know why someone can keep getting them over and

> over again always in the same spot. I have not been on LDN now for a few

> months at doctors request. I have been having a terrible time with my

> complexion since off the LDN another mystery. I was taking LDN for

> Fibromyalgia, MPS.

> --

> Be in God's Light and Let Peace and love surround you there!

>

[Guest guest]

Can you explain what shingles are like and where they develop? I stopped the LDN

for a bit to do a cleanse with bentonite clay and activated charcoal because of

my eczema and years on steroids. Now, I'm getting these red bumps on my

forehead, arms, belly, legs and shoulders. One of my knee had come to a head and

I popped it. Should I go back on the LDN to control it or does LDN stir it up?

Wow, what a mess with this and the steroid burns I'm dealing with.

> >

> If you suspect shingles go to the doc immediately (before 72 hours)

> and they can give you a shot for them and that will take care of

> it...otherwise it can be horribly painful for a long, long time.

> Shingles can be deadly...not something to play around with.

>

> My mom was in her 80's and developed shingles (I took her to doc as

> soon as I saw a few little spots and she was having shooting pains in

> her head. The doc looked at her, said " shingles " , gave her the shot

> and she did fine...no problem at all. I know people who didn't pay the

> proper attention and have had severe problem. -Biz

>

>

> Jodi,

> > It doesn't sound like shingles at all, what you describe. Shingles

> > are generally more localized. It sounds like an allergy of some sort.

> > Don't wait and see what happens, go to a doctor.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again

Look up Herpes Zoster. That is the Shingles virus as I posted earlier.

Most likely going off LDN and doing those 'cleanses' stirred up the toxins in your body so fast that they could not be excreted fast enough and hence the outbreaks. Be gentle vvith your body for less drastic results.

To prevent Shingles: take 1 to 2 grams of Vitamin C and 2 grams of l-Lysine vveekly And/Or drink a couple cups of strong lemon balm tea made vvith FRESH lemon balm vveekly or use tincture made vvith fresh lemon balm..

To stop a Shingles outbreak: do the above tvvice daily and usually see results in 2 to 3 days.

No need for pharmaceutical intervention.

And, stay ON LDN as it modulates the immune system.

mjh

In a message dated 4/17/2011 9:53:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, low dose naltrexone writes:

Posted by: " Brown" graceflyer@... mercyflyer377

Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:53 pm (PDT)

Can you explain what shingles are like and where they develop? I stopped the LDN for a bit to do a cleanse with bentonite clay and activated charcoal because of my eczema and years on steroids. Now, I'm getting these red bumps on my forehead, arms, belly, legs and shoulders. One of my knee had come to a head and I popped it. Should I go back on the LDN to control it or does LDN stir it up? Wow, what a mess with this and the steroid burns I'm dealing with. > >> If you suspect shingles go to the doc immediately (before 72 hours)> and they can give you a shot for them and that will take care of> it...otherwise it can be horribly painful for a long, long time.> Shingles can be deadly...not something to play around with.> > My mom was in her 80's and developed shingles (I took her to doc as> soon as I saw a few little spots and she was having shooting pains in> her head. The doc looked at her, said "shingles", gave her the shot> and she did fine...no problem at all. I know people who didn't pay the> proper attention and have had severe problem. -Biz

[Guest guest]

I am on 5.5 MG LDN nightly.

I have chronic, active Shingles and I take the full dosage of Acyclovir every

single day.

That's 800 mg five times every day.

Prior to LDN, even that dosage would not control shingles if I didn't take m

pills exactly on time and also take L-Lysine powder 1200 mg 3 x per day and stay

completely out of the sun and away from Arginine.

Now that I am on LDN, I can miss a single dose of Acyclovir and not get onset of

Shingles.

If I eat too much arginine-containing foods, go in the sun more than 4 minutes,

or miss a dose of L-Lysine, I do get prodromal pain and sometimes minor shingles

even with the LDN, but the LDN makes all those meds work much better than

before. I was really hoping the LDN would allow me to stop taking the meds for

shingles, but no such luck.

Extreme stress can also bring on Shingles even when I am at my optimum with the

medications.

my husband had a mild heart attack last week, and I got a batch of shingles on

my neck and head.

~ d

>>Can I take the anti viral medication for Shingles while on LDN? Losing >>some

sense of self with all of this itching. I am feeling pretty unstable.

[Guest guest]

Some say shingles only occur on one part of your body and these are

intermittently scattered and don't really hurt that much. I just have a lot of

insane itching, which is for sure from the steroids in my body coming out. I'm

thinking it's not shingles because they don't come to a head, just red bumps.

> > >

> > If you suspect shingles go to the doc immediately (before 72 hours)

> > and they can give you a shot for them and that will take care of

> > it...otherwise it can be horribly painful for a long, long time.

> > Shingles can be deadly...not something to play around with.

> >

> > My mom was in her 80's and developed shingles (I took her to doc as

> > soon as I saw a few little spots and she was having shooting pains in

> > her head. The doc looked at her, said " shingles " , gave her the shot

> > and she did fine...no problem at all. I know people who didn't pay the

> > proper attention and have had severe problem. -Biz

>

[Guest guest]

I was given Tagamet for Shingles in 2002... it made me VERY sick because I

already had low stomach acid.

>>I've been reading about Tagamet in relation to Shingles.

[Guest guest]

Hey Allan, thanks for the excellent report. what is nice is you show exactly

how you did it. glad the shingles cleared up. The virus itself dies in 36

hours, so the aftermath of toxins is what gets removed by the electricity in the

opinion of my medical advice person. I have seen this before, and using

electricity you get a healing in about a week, so you are in the zone.

In future, you can spike your solution with baking soda, just a pinch, and get a

faster result if you want quicker relief, but what you did was just fine. CS is

not strongly conductive, nor is distilled water, so a lot of your conductivity

comes from skin minerals migrating into the sponges, which takes time. If you

had a live virus, it would have taken more current flow to affect the virus

itself, probably. This is all guesswork at this point, so just giving my

thoughts on it. The lower voltage using 2 AA's would be ok on moist skin such

as found on torso. In future if you find it effective keep using it as you have

been, and make any ajustments like I've hinted at as needed to deal with

whatever germ.

Thanks, again, Allan! Will post to our shingles files.

bG

>

> Reply to about Shingles... and B.G., I am sorry I have not had the

time to post this result like you wanted.

>

> Here's the story: About a year and a half ago, my wife got a case of

shingles...

> It showed up on her right side, above her waist, below the bra line. Medicine

wasn't helping,

> so I used one of the Godzilla versions.

>

> I did the one with a kitchen sponge and two " AA " batteries. I cut the

sponge into two pieces...

> used two rubber bands [one left to right, one up & down]to fasten an " AA " cell

to the sponge:

> One with nose end (+) into sponge with the (-) end sticking up in the air.

Other sponge got the

> 'tail " end (-) into the sponge, with the (+) end up.

>

> I got some stranded wire (old speaker wire, actually) and stripped about

one inch off each end,

> and wrapped a wire around the crossing of the rubber bands, so the wire was

touching the " up in

> the air " end of each battery.

>

> So the " circuit " is like this: sponge to (+), (-) to wire... wire goes

over to other battery's (+),

> and (-) end of battery into second sponge.

>

> Now I have two sponges, with batteries sticking out like handles, with a

single wire between them.

>

> Next, I took an old " Ace " elastic bandage and cut two holes in it, just

big enough for those batteries

> to stick through, spaced just so the sponges would be placed on either side of

the rash

> & blistered skin of the shingles outbreak. I soaked the sponges in some

home-made colloidal silver

> (more conductive than plain water, it was made with distilled water) and

wrapped the Ace bandage

> around my wife's waist, and left the sponges placed on either side of the

outbreak site,

> (about three inches apart in her case).

>

> We left it on for 10 minutes, then reversed the sponges, so that the

polarity was then reversed,

> and did another 10 minutes. We did this twice on the first day, and three

times on the next two days.

>

> By the third day, the pain was reduced by half, and the itching by at

least a third. We continued

> this for the rest of the week, and by then, it was dried up and healing, with

no pain and no itching.

>

> The shingles went away after that week, and have not returned. My wife was

afraid of scarring

> because the broken blisters were so bad, but they healed fine with NO

scarring.

>

> I hope this help someone, and I hope my format here is readable.

> Thanks for your group, and I will be posting some other things in a few

days.

>

> --Allan from Havertown, PA.

>

> Shingles

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> <snip rest where asked which style and what placement.>

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