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Hello Charlie

When I was about 11 to 12 I had gotten shingles three times. So I would

guess it's not to uncommon. Since we have a lower imuine system.

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> Elliot, who had chicken poxs several years ago, now got Shingles.

> Anyone have experience with this?

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Hi Charlie and Rena,

No, Josh hasn't had shingles. But just last month we happened to be

talking about it with the rheumatologist. She explained it to us and

told us to watch for any abnormal looking changes on this certain area

on Josh's chest. He had been complaining of some soreness there.

Different from chosteochondritis (sp?). And it wasn't bruised, just

bothersome. Fortunately, nothing developed. And the pain went away. What

exactly are the symptoms that Elliot's experiencing? How is it to be

treated? I hope it clears up soon. And that Elliot starts feeling

better.

Aloha,

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Hi Charlie,

I haven't been on for awhile.... I had shingles last year when both my

kids had chicken pox. How old was Elliot when he had the Chicken

pox? I was told that since I had the chicken pox before a year old,

I didn't get full immunity. The weird thing is that I only got them on

half my body. I understand that the immunity is by quadrants.

Thanks, Jana

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Shingles are caused by the same virus as chickpox right? If that's

so, then I'd say try high doses of vitamin C and other immune boosting

supplements.

Barbara

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> << A friend of mine in Atlanta has had shingles since Dec.

> Does anyone on this list know how to beat this?

> Christel >>

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Does anyone know if shingles can be caught by someone who has already had chickenpox? I've gone on-line, but I don't find an answer to that question.

I've asked a doctor, through his easily confused assistant, but I want to double-check on my own.

My husband has shingles, diagnosed today. (Fortunately, it isn't bothering him physically. He's very worried about contagion for me.) I've had chickenpox and am taking 100 mg of Imuran daily.

The assistant was unaware that exposure to shingles while taking immunosuppressants might present a problem. She says my doctor told her there was no concern because I've had chickenpox. I want to be SURE. She's made mistakes before. I'll try to get through to my gp, but if any of you have ever run into this and have some information, please let me know.

Thanks.

Harper

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Hi Harper,

My husband had shingles this summer and I was told it wasn't a problem

for me - but - my friend (a nurse) just had them and she wouldn't let

me anywhere near her while she had them. So go figure????

Did he see a doc.? My husband was given a med. and they didn't get very

bad.

I can't remember the name and neither can he.

Joan Claffey

NJ

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My son Nicky had shingles when he was 8. He had chicken pox when he was 9

months. Shingles is supposed to be an adult disease, but he got it. I was

told that you must have had chicken pox to get shingles. I don't know if it

is contagious or not, but the school would not let him attend until it

cleared up. It is very painful. Aveeno baths and benedryl helped him. They

are both caused by a Herpes type virus. If it works like chicken pox, there

is an approximate 10-14 day incubation period where the person is the most

contagious before he breaks out. I would insist upon asking the doctor

directly instead of going through his assistant. I sincerely hope you don't

catch it. I hope your husband recovers soon.

Debbie, Tommy's Mom

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> Date: 5/23/01 5:30:11 PM

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> Does anyone know if shingles can be caught by someone who has already had

> chickenpox? I've gone on-line, but I don't find an answer to that

question.

> I've asked a doctor, through his easily confused assistant, but I want to

> double-check on my own.

>

> My husband has shingles, diagnosed today. (Fortunately, it isn't

bothering

> him physically. He's very worried about contagion for me.) I've had

> chickenpox and am taking 100 mg of Imuran daily.

>

> The assistant was unaware that exposure to shingles while taking

> immunosuppressants might present a problem. She says my doctor told her

> there was no concern because I've had chickenpox. I want to be SURE.

She's

> made mistakes before. I'll try to get through to my gp, but if any of

you

> have ever run into this and have some information, please let me know.

> Thanks.

> Harper

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Sherry, thanks to you (and others) for shingles information. I'm sorry to hear about your lung disease -- as if you didn't have enough to keep you busy already! Best wishes.

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Hi Harper,

Sherry from Texas responded to your concerns re: shingles. The information she gives is accurate. My Dad just went through a 3 month shingles episode and my internist said the same thing as far as I was concerned in an immunocompromised state. Of course, we do tend to behave a little differently once we start on immunosuppressants (I wear a mask if I have to take my kids to the doctors office or anywhere I may be close to coughing, sneezing people).

Your husband will need a lot of love and support as shingles can be quite painful.

I send some extra prayers to you and him.

God bless,

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> Does anyone know if shingles can be caught by someone who has

already had

> chickenpox?

> Thanks.

> Harper

Harper,

I had chickenpox and got shingles when I was in my 20tys. I was so

sick and miserable. I hope your husband or you have to got through

that. I have also been told that I could get them again. This is

just my own personal experience.

Debbie/FL

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Hi...its been awhile since I have had the time to get on here and see what is going on with everyone.....I was just checking the subject lines to see what was up when I saw yours....on shingles....and had to respond...I see that others also have gotten to you but figured I would answer anyways and get to say Hello....

Last fall Ty had shingles....he can home from school and showed me some sores on his chest and that they bothered him....they didn't really look like anything special and so a couple of days go by and he comes home from school holding hids shirt away from his skin...says it hurts...but they still don't look like anything special....another couple of days go by and he comes home and says his teacher says it shingles...which the teacher has had a couple of times and had again...The teacher knowing what he had should not have been in school....but besides that....I call the Tys doctors and they tell me to get him to the ER.,...so off we go.. 2 hours to the hosp and they admit him....it was shingles and they put him on 3 different IV antibiodics....remember Ty takes alot of meds...including cyclosporine...and pred...We were there for about a week....They are very painful....and you can get them again....

The teacher was pretty much safe with most of the students....because their immune system could fight it off...But I was rather ticked....he is the band teacher and has had Ty all four years and knows about all the stuff he has been thru....I don't expect him to know medical info...like the meds that Ty is on...but I thought he should have at least been more responsible....There are plently of kids on pred for asthma....

Ty had the chicken pox when he was about 3 when his sister brought them home from school....and shingles is the same virus...so if you are exposed to chicken pox you can also get shingles....

My mother in law was a diabetic....and suffered many times with shingles.....they say that diabetics don't feel pain....and I have seen her burn herself with the iron...till it blistered and she didn't even know that she did it...and other things like that....but the shingles....she felt them....meaning they are really painful....I know Ty really suffered with them...they even put him on a morphine shot to help.....

I hope your husband does not have to suffer too long....and I would stay away if I were you....or at least call your doctor and let them know....

I would also wash his clothes separtly for a while....Not that I am saying he is gross but with the meds you take you don't need to take any chances....

I HOPE you don't get them....talk to your doctor.....

other than that.....Hello and saw that Genny and Jodi are doing well....HURRRRAAAYYY....what a blessing....I hope to have time to wrtie a few more here today....

hope you are doing well

Luanne Ty's mom

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In a message dated 4/1/2003 1:52:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,

drema_walker@... writes:

> One of the reasons you can get

> shingles is because of the immune system not working properly. I

> know that with hashimoto's disease the immune system doesn't work

> properly. Has anyone here with this disease ever had shingles?

Dear Drema,

I've had (have) shingles. Adult onset shingles can often related to a

childhood reaction to the smallpox vaccine. When I got mine at age five I

was miserably, miserably sick. When I was little I used to get hives really,

really badly, which I now attribute to my reaction to the vaccination. Then,

in my early twenties, the hives went away and the shingles came. Usually I

get them the worst now whenever I have dental work. The herpes zoster virus

that causes them lives mostly in the tissues in and around the mouth.

I have tried taking the medicine, Acyclovir, at the start of the dental work

to suppress the shingles. You have to take it for 10 days and for me, the

medicine to suppress an outbreak is nearly as bad or worse than the shingles.

I felt very ill on the medicine! What I try to do is keep down an outbreak

but with a weakened immune system, that can sometimes be tricky. Recently,

I've been experimenting with Red Marine Algae and that, surprisingly, has

helped! I was in a chronic, long-term shingles outbreak I couldn't shake for

the past six months until I began taking the Red Algae. And the pain

subsided within a few days without any other effort on my part.

What I've learned (before the Red Algae) is: decrease stress, eliminate or

keep to a minimum, consumption of nuts, nut butters, chocolate, caffeinated

products, too much sunshine. These all increase the arginine levels in the

body and shingles thrive with high arginine. The antagonist to arginine is

lysine, so one of the fastest way to cut the pain of shingles is to start

taking high doses of lysine every few hours as soon as you feel the

stingining pain.

And, whatever you do, don't take acetominophen for the pain of shingles! It

feeds the herpes zoster virus! I took acetiminophen for years for shingles

pain and didn't understand why I always felt worse on " pain killers " until I

read that tidbit in a natural healing book! So, take ibuprofen for shingles

pain--with food if it bothers your stomach--but it will help you get through

the pain of a fresh outbreak. I also use a gel called " Arthritis Pain Relief

Gel " made by Boericke and Toeffel, the homeopathic company that cuts the pain

of dental shingles.

Good luck and definitely try the Red Marine Algae!

in LA

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> In a message dated 4/1/2003 1:52:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> drema_walker@h... writes:

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> > One of the reasons you can get

> > shingles is because of the immune system not working properly. I

> > know that with hashimoto's disease the immune system doesn't work

> > properly. Has anyone here with this disease ever had shingles?

>

> Dear Drema,

>

> I've had (have) shingles. Adult onset shingles can often related

to a

> childhood reaction to the smallpox vaccine. When I got mine at age

five I

> was miserably, miserably sick. When I was little I used to get

hives really,

> really badly, which I now attribute to my reaction to the

vaccination. Then,

> in my early twenties, the hives went away and the shingles came.

Usually I

> get them the worst now whenever I have dental work. The herpes

zoster virus

> that causes them lives mostly in the tissues in and around the

mouth.

>

> I have tried taking the medicine, Acyclovir, at the start of the

dental work

> to suppress the shingles. You have to take it for 10 days and for

me, the

> medicine to suppress an outbreak is nearly as bad or worse than the

shingles.

> I felt very ill on the medicine! What I try to do is keep down an

outbreak

> but with a weakened immune system, that can sometimes be tricky.

Recently,

> I've been experimenting with Red Marine Algae and that,

surprisingly, has

> helped! I was in a chronic, long-term shingles outbreak I couldn't

shake for

> the past six months until I began taking the Red Algae. And the

pain

> subsided within a few days without any other effort on my part.

>

> What I've learned (before the Red Algae) is: decrease stress,

eliminate or

> keep to a minimum, consumption of nuts, nut butters, chocolate,

caffeinated

> products, too much sunshine. These all increase the arginine

levels in the

> body and shingles thrive with high arginine. The antagonist to

arginine is

> lysine, so one of the fastest way to cut the pain of shingles is to

start

> taking high doses of lysine every few hours as soon as you feel the

> stingining pain.

>

> And, whatever you do, don't take acetominophen for the pain of

shingles! It

> feeds the herpes zoster virus! I took acetiminophen for years for

shingles

> pain and didn't understand why I always felt worse on " pain

killers " until I

> read that tidbit in a natural healing book! So, take ibuprofen for

shingles

> pain--with food if it bothers your stomach--but it will help you

get through

> the pain of a fresh outbreak. I also use a gel called " Arthritis

Pain Relief

> Gel " made by Boericke and Toeffel, the homeopathic company that

cuts the pain

> of dental shingles.

>

> Good luck and definitely try the Red Marine Algae!

> in LA

HI there...it sounds like you are having a terrible time. Just to

let you know shingles is also related to chicken pox...so if you have

had chicken pox you would be predisposed to shingles. I know that

stress can bring about terrible bouts of it. I hope the Red Marine

Algae helps.

You have probably already researched this quite a bit, but you may

not have come across this site:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm

#What_is_Shingles

Best of luck.

C

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> I have a thyroid problem. I have a nodule. I have all the symptoms

> also of having hashimoto's disease. I have been going to the

doctor

> now for over a year. They want to remove my thyroid, because of

the

> nodule but I have a heart condition and I have talked about this

> before on this forum. I now have shingles. Could the shingles be

> caused because of the thyroid?? One of the reasons you can get

> shingles is because of the immune system not working properly. I

> know that with hashimoto's disease the immune system doesn't work

> properly. Has anyone here with this disease ever had shingles?

I just had a shingles type outbreak 2 weeks ago ! I took 1000mgs of

lysine and it was gone in 24 hours ! I also have hashi's but but

never had smallpox vac.

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i was told by the nurse to take a pill in the morning, 2 days later i found

something that said i should take 3 a day. i called the dr's office to verify

this. after taking my 3rd pill last night i felt very wierd fluttering feeling

in my chest. i could not fall asleep. i called the dr. got in today. sat in

the office from 11:15-12:50. this dr did not think i have shingles. (neither did

i) everything seemed fine today. kathy in il

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It seems that several people lately have mentioned having shingles. I

had it a few months after my arthritis symptoms began, but before I was

diagnosed with RA. I wonder how many others of you here have had

shingles. Does having an autoimmune disease make us more susceptible to

shingles? Sue

On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 08:18 PM, elainho wrote:

> My pn (peripheral neuropathy) is considered severe with pretty

> widespread involvement made worse by post herpatic pain (very severe

> case of shingles that I continue to experience pain from 11 months

> after having shingles and doctor feels will likely be a lifelong

> challenge).

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My wife has it right now, and it's very painful for her. As I understand it,

it's a form of 'Chicken Pox', and affects the nerve endings. That's about

all I think I know about it, but could be way off base. :)

Dennis

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> It seems that several people lately have mentioned having shingles. I

> had it a few months after my arthritis symptoms began, but before I was

> diagnosed with RA. I wonder how many others of you here have had

> shingles. Does having an autoimmune disease make us more susceptible to

> shingles? Sue

>

> On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 08:18 PM, elainho wrote:

>

>> My pn (peripheral neuropathy) is considered severe with pretty

>> widespread involvement made worse by post herpatic pain (very severe

>> case of shingles that I continue to experience pain from 11 months

>> after having shingles and doctor feels will likely be a lifelong

>> challenge).

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no that is what it is. i couldn't understand why my dr thought i had it

because i had some pimple things behind my ear. no other pain or symtoms.i am so

glad i got off that medicine!! too bad i missed so much time at work. tuesday i

go to green bay for my concert!! kathy in il

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Sue, after contracting chickenpox, the chickenpox virus, varicella

zoster, remains dormant in the body and may be reactivated due to immune

system changes, producing a herpes zoster (shingles) infection.

Shingles in a person with rheumatoid arthritis are thought to occur due

to the use of the drugs used to treat RA which suppress the immune

system - corticosteroids, MTX, and the biologics, for example.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

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> It seems that several people lately have mentioned having shingles. I

> had it a few months after my arthritis symptoms began, but before I

was

> diagnosed with RA. I wonder how many others of you here have had

> shingles. Does having an autoimmune disease make us more susceptible

to

> shingles? Sue

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I had shingles before being diagnosed with RA, so I wasn't on any of

the drugs yet. But I guess with RA starting, my immune system was out

of whack. My breast cancer was diagnosed about a year after the RA

symptoms began, and I've always felt that there was a connection there,

too. Sue

On Sunday, October 24, 2004, at 11:24 AM, wrote:

>

> Sue, after contracting chickenpox, the chickenpox virus, varicella

> zoster, remains dormant in the body and may be reactivated due to

> immune

> system changes, producing a herpes zoster (shingles) infection.

>

> Shingles in a person with rheumatoid arthritis are thought to occur due

> to the use of the drugs used to treat RA which suppress the immune

> system - corticosteroids, MTX, and the biologics, for example.

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Physical and/or psychological stress can precipitate a case of shingles. So I

imagine an immune-suppressed person in a flare would be a likely victim,

unfortunately..Cary

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I can unfortunately speak from personal experience. I had shingles 8 years ago

when I moved from a place I had lived in for almost 15 years. I was looking

forward to having a home of my own - but there was a lot of physical and

psychological stress- I thought they were originally bee stings. Prompt

treatment can make things much better - along with rest.

Hugs,

>

> Physical and/or psychological stress can precipitate a case of shingles. So I

> imagine an immune-suppressed person in a flare would be a likely victim,

> unfortunately..Cary

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