Re: Antibiotics that bind with calcium & other interactions

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . This was very helpful! I, for example, didn't know

that calcium & magnesium binds with Flagyl. I just started back on

Flagyl, so I need to rearrange my supplement schedule.

I've always heard that one should put 4 hours between supplements

that interfere with each other (like calcium & iron). My LLMD said

it could be an hour or two. I've stuck with 4 hours just to be safe.

Does anybody know for usre?

Jessie

>

> I did some research and could not find info online about Ketek

> binding with calcium. I am quite certain though there were

stickers

> saying do not consume with dairy products when I was given Ketek a

> year ago. Ketek is closely related to the macrolide family which

> includes Zithromax, so it suggests it shouldn't be taken with

> calcium). However I did find warnings not to consume more than 8

ozs

> of grapefruit in a day while on Ketek or can cause liver damage.

> Also those with low potassium or low magnesium levels should not

> take Ketek as it can cause irregular heart rhythm. (uh... don't

most

> Lymies have low magnesium levels?)

>

> **Below are the abx that bind with both calcium and magensium.

>

> Azithromyacin (Zithromax)- also binds with Magnesium, Vit C & Iron

>

> All of the Tetracycline family (tetracycline, doxycycline,

> minocycline)

>

> All of the Quinolone family (ciprofloxacin, levofloxacin,

> norfloxacin, and ofloxacin)

>

> Gentamicin (consuming calcium with this abx can cause severe

kidney

> damage)

>

> Metronidazole- Flagyl

>

>

>

> Other notes on antibiotics-

>

> Vitamin C should not be taken when on Bactrim and one should limit

> intake of fruits that contain Vit C as it can cause renal failure.

>

> Vitamin C decreases the effectiveness of Azithromyacin &

> Erythromycin.

>

> Tetracyclines will lower your Vitamin C absorption.

>

> Sulfa drugs will lower your B-12 level.

>

>

> Other common medications that you should not consume with calcium

> are All medications for hypothyroidism, Beta Blockers, Metaformin,

> Hydrochlorothiazide, Furosemide, Bumetanide, Amiloride,

> Cholestyramine, Colestipol, Colesevelam, Alendronate, Estrogens,

> Tiludronate Disodium.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ai called my pharmacy and asked the fpharmacist if there was any

problem with combining Ca & Mg. supplements at the same time when

taking Ketek and Amox. The answer was NO. It doesn't negate the

effects either way. She went to look it up. -- Lida

>

> I did some research and could not find info online about Ketek

> binding with calcium. I am quite certain though there were stickers

> saying do not consume with dairy products when I was given Ketek a

> year ago. Ketek is closely related to the macrolide family which

> includes Zithromax, so it suggests it shouldn't be taken with

> calcium). However I did find warnings not to consume more than 8

ozs

> of grapefruit in a day while on Ketek or can cause liver damage.

> Also those with low potassium or low magnesium levels should not

> take Ketek as it can cause irregular heart rhythm. (uh... don't

most

> Lymies have low magnesium levels?)

>

> **Below are the abx that bind with both calcium and magensium.

>

> Azithromyacin (Zithromax)- also binds with Magnesium, Vit C & Iron

>

> All of the Tetracycline family (tetracycline, doxycycline,

> minocycline)

>

> All of the Quinolone family (ciprofloxacin, levofloxacin,

> norfloxacin, and ofloxacin)

>

> Gentamicin (consuming calcium with this abx can cause severe kidney

> damage)

>

> Metronidazole- Flagyl

>

>

>

> Other notes on antibiotics-

>

> Vitamin C should not be taken when on Bactrim and one should limit

> intake of fruits that contain Vit C as it can cause renal failure.

>

> Vitamin C decreases the effectiveness of Azithromyacin &

> Erythromycin.

>

> Tetracyclines will lower your Vitamin C absorption.

>

> Sulfa drugs will lower your B-12 level.

>

>

> Other common medications that you should not consume with calcium

> are All medications for hypothyroidism, Beta Blockers, Metaformin,

> Hydrochlorothiazide, Furosemide, Bumetanide, Amiloride,

> Cholestyramine, Colestipol, Colesevelam, Alendronate, Estrogens,

> Tiludronate Disodium.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lida;

Thanks for calling a pharmacist on that.

Thanks a lot.

Millie

Lida <lidunkap@...> wrote:

ai called my pharmacy and asked the fpharmacist if there was any

problem with combining Ca & Mg. supplements at the same time when

taking Ketek and Amox. The answer was NO. It doesn't negate the

effects either way. She went to look it up. -- Lida

[Guest guest]

Jessie,

I know what you mean. I feel like my life is centered now about what

pill to take next and when to eat & what to eat and avoid eating.

I'm not sure if it is accurate, but the pharmacist that did tell me

about abx and calcium said two hours between. I have had stickers put

on the bottles that also said 2 hrs. But then its hard to know what is

opinion and what is proven fact. As I have heard from many patients

that they were told to take probiotics 2 hrs after abx. But my LLMD has

told me several times 1 hr either before of after abx. His nurses have

reinterated the same info.

I do know thyroid meds must have 4 hrs separation from calcium, iron or

Vit C. So why its 4 hrs for that and only 2 hrs for abx and calcium I

don't know.

>

> Thanks, . This was very helpful! I, for example, didn't know

> that calcium & magnesium binds with Flagyl. I just started back on

> Flagyl, so I need to rearrange my supplement schedule.

>

> I've always heard that one should put 4 hours between supplements

> that interfere with each other (like calcium & iron). My LLMD said

> it could be an hour or two. I've stuck with 4 hours just to be safe.

> Does anybody know for usre?

>

> Jessie

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know it probably means I need to take it but I had such a violent reaction to

Flagyl I had an Rx for 60 and I think I took it for like one week and got so

sick I stopped.

That was when I was IVing Rocephin and was getting such good results from it

anyway.

I had Migraine headaches for three years straight and was attending the

University. Would you believe and I know you will. I was never offered pain

medication. In fact I have had pain medication for only the last 8-01-2000.

I went from 1985 and was almost put on total disability for Migraine headaches

and never got a single pain med. I refused to ask for it. I am real strange

like that. So I went from 1985 with severe Migraine on into 1991 when I got

Late Stage Lyme, August 8, 2000, that is 15 years I suffered with unbelievable

pain and never asked or was offered pain medication.

I was always, by Dr's, described as a pleasant woman, I am having a I hate

Dr's moment this morning. Looking much younger than her stated age. Don't you

just love it.

I just went to the potty and turned around to flush and my eye glass lens fell

into the toilet. Fun. Now those new clothes could have bought me a new pair of

glasses. But maybe with the new clothes I'll get out and go to the Eye Doctor

and get my new Rx.

I found spell check on this machine just a few days ago. It is great. I

don't have to keep looking up words in the dictionary.

I definitely need to take a pain pill I am about to jump out of my body I hurt

so bad. I get four Hydrocodine a day, whether I need them or not. Tongue stuck

to cheek, as I am hurting so bad it has been since 2:30 am I took the last one.

Like I said it just takes the edge off of a very painful situation.

When I run a spell check it is funny how creative I get with the spelling of

words. That is why I love wordprocessing. You can bang out a letter and know

you can check it for errors later. I loved wordperfect especially when they

came out with grammer check. That was amazing.

It amazes me how much pain a person can tolerate. It scares me when I hear

about the Geneva convention and how we can torture people and our kids who go

into the military and are taught to torture people for information and they

learn how to do it and do it because the law says they can. Scary.

I was watching TV last night and I love that show where the woman has powers

where she dreams about murders and solves. Dr Murray would be raving about

this. Anyway last night was really scary.

She was being posses by a serial killer and kept dreaming she was the killer.

It was scary. I love being scared as long as I know it is just a movie and it

will end.

Boy It sure is easy to jabber away on these machines.

wtptoo <wtptoo@...> wrote:

Jessie,

I know what you mean. I feel like my life is centered now about what

pill to take next and when to eat & what to eat and avoid eating.

I'm not sure if it is accurate, but the pharmacist that did tell me

about abx and calcium said two hours between. I have had stickers put

on the bottles that also said 2 hrs. But then its hard to know what is

opinion and what is proven fact. As I have heard from many patients

that they were told to take probiotics 2 hrs after abx. But my LLMD has

told me several times 1 hr either before of after abx. His nurses have

reinterated the same info.

I do know thyroid meds must have 4 hrs separation from calcium, iron or

Vit C. So why its 4 hrs for that and only 2 hrs for abx and calcium I

don't know.

[Guest guest]

,

I research Flagyl & calcium and couldn't find anything that told me

they shouldn't be taken together, with the possible exception that

Flagyl might interfere with the absorption of vitamin K, which can

lead to brittle bones.

I take thyroid meds and I hadn't heard the 4-hour rule for Ca, Fe, &

C. I take them at least an hour before I eat, but now I'm thinking

that I need to review all my meds and supplements.

By the way, I keep track of my meds & supplements in a spreadsheet.

It includes the amount, the med or supplement, why I'm taking it,

and when I'm taking it. I add the when after I was prescribed

something that threw off everything else and I had to juggle a bunch

of stuff. I make prescriptions bold to make it easier them easier to

find.

If anyone would like a sample of my spreadsheet, let me know off

list and I'll send it to you.

Jessie

> >

> > Thanks, . This was very helpful! I, for example, didn't

know

> > that calcium & magnesium binds with Flagyl. I just started back

on

> > Flagyl, so I need to rearrange my supplement schedule.

> >

> > I've always heard that one should put 4 hours between

supplements

> > that interfere with each other (like calcium & iron). My LLMD

said

> > it could be an hour or two. I've stuck with 4 hours just to be

safe.

> > Does anybody know for usre?

> >

> > Jessie

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

See right there is a very good reason why I need a printer on this computer. I

don't know how to use or install it. I know, pay someone to do it. I don't

have that kind of money. I am on disability and it is a very small amount.

Thus the major guilt about the clothes purchase. Put on a credit card that

will be 30% starting this year.

I use a Steno note pad and use it for everything then spend half my life

trying to read my own writing. This is all said in jest. I am really not

stupid.

But I don't like trying to do things on this computer when I know nothing

about the systems. I get stuck and I hurt too much to deal with it. I've had

E-mail for going on three years and just found the spell check. Give me a

break.

Jessie MacMillan <jessiemacmillan@...> wrote:

,

I research Flagyl & calcium and couldn't find anything that told me

they shouldn't be taken together, with the possible exception that

Flagyl might interfere with the absorption of vitamin K, which can

lead to brittle bones.

I take thyroid meds and I hadn't heard the 4-hour rule for Ca, Fe, &

C. I take them at least an hour before I eat, but now I'm thinking

that I need to review all my meds and supplements.

By the way, I keep track of my meds & supplements in a spreadsheet.

It includes the amount, the med or supplement, why I'm taking it,

and when I'm taking it. I add the when after I was prescribed

something that threw off everything else and I had to juggle a bunch

of stuff. I make prescriptions bold to make it easier them easier to

find.

If anyone would like a sample of my spreadsheet, let me know off

list and I'll send it to you.

Jessie