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In a message dated 11/23/1999 7:16:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,

candidiasisonelist writes:

<< Lipton Onion Soup Mix contains yeast >>

Then if that made me itch then wouldn't bread do the same thing? I don't

itch when I eat bread? I see someone mentioned strawberries are bad. I've

noticed ithing when I eat those especially. I've never had a problem with

them before. I must be on the right track huh? Thanks. I'll keep reading.

Maggi

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In a message dated 11/23/99 8:33:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

M487@... writes:

<< Then if that made me itch then wouldn't bread do the same thing? I don't

itch when I eat bread? I see someone mentioned strawberries are bad. I've

noticed ithing when I eat those especially. I've never had a problem with

them before. I must be on the right track huh? Thanks. I'll keep reading.

Maggi >>

You shouldn't be eating yeast if you have a Candida problem....

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Dear Dr. Misra:

I am on combo treatment and am suffering from fungus underneath fingernails,

swimmer's ear, and brown discolored skin which have all been diagnosed as

fungus....I was told I couldn't take the oral treatment for fungus with hep c

so have been treating topically and somewhat ineffectively..... Which oral

treatment do you recommend....I would really like to be rid of this little

organism who is having a party on my body!

Thank you, Diane (diansa@...)

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orrin had that we kept tripleantibiotic

ointment on it after 12 days it was

almost gone it's coming back alittle

we're keeping the triple antibiotic

on it

regina

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> From: DIANSA@...

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> Dear Dr. Misra:

> I am on combo treatment and am suffering from fungus underneath

fingernails,

> swimmer's ear, and brown discolored skin which have all been diagnosed as

> fungus....I was told I couldn't take the oral treatment for fungus with

hep c

> so have been treating topically and somewhat ineffectively..... Which

oral

> treatment do you recommend....I would really like to be rid of this little

> organism who is having a party on my body!

> Thank you, Diane (diansa@...)

>

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Fluconazole 50 mg once daily ( Diflucan, Pfizer) for 2-4 wks will

eradicate fungus. Topical agents will not work on the nailbed.

You should not be on any anticoagulant or antiepileptic medication.

Monitor your AST/ALT every week, there may be a transient rise but its

reversible and of no harm.

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In a message dated 7/18/00 5:19:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

laurie@... writes:

<< and acidophilus is there. Their search engine is at the bottom of

the page. From that page,

" ACTIONS

Antibacterial (acidophilus produces antibacterial substances: lactic

acid, acetic acid, benzoic acid, hydrogen peroxide, acidolin,

lactocidin and acidophilin)1,2,3, anticancer, antifungal,

antihypercholesterolemic, antiulcer, digestive aid, enhances the

absorption of nutrients, inhibits the growth of vaginal bacteria >>

I also read that acidophillus produces Lactic Acid. I wonder if some of us

should be careful with acidphillus if we already hurt or burn when we work

out(producing to much lactic acid). Will this make our situation worse? karen

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In a message dated 7/18/00 7:57:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< Almost every single thing I have found says that when there is yeast in

the

gut you will have diarhea-WELL I AM SEVERELY CONSTIPATED ALWAYS(sorry to

yell). >>

I have the same problem as you. I was using acidophulus and thought that

helped the constipation. Then I tried a product called Triphala. it is an

ayurvedic and I seem to be doing better on it. It is just three fruit

concentrates

so there is no stimulate laxative or anything. My overall health seems to be

correlated to my gut health. You might want to give Triphala a try. I got it

from Whole Foods.

Mike

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> Yeast

Ditto for me, . No yeast problems anywhere, constipation and I often

wonder, could I still have a yeast problem?

I've taken a lot of antibiotics for bronchitis, so anyone in alternative

medicine claims I must have candidiasis.

Would like to hear more discussion on this. . .

>

> I have intestinal yeast. I don't have yeast problem anyplace else, even when

> I am on antibiotics my yeast only gets worse in my gut...no place else. So

> just for the fun of it I have been doing some research on yeast in the gut.

> Almost every single thing I have found says that when there is yeast in the

> gut you will have diarhea-WELL I AM SEVERELY CONSTIPATED ALWAYS(sorry to

> yell). And it also says when you have yeast in the gut you will most likely

> suffer from yeast problems in other places and I don't. Is anyone else in

> this same boat? I am afraid to use acidophillus because its mainly used to

> help kill yeast of course but also to cure diarhea so I don't want it to make

> me even more constipated. Has anyone here found relief from there

> constipation with acidophillus? THanks, karen

>

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Things for good gut flora like acidophilous help neutralize; they wouldn't

cause more constipation.

I am interested by Katheryn's comments. A recent alternative medicine

doctor told me " You must have Candida if you have been taking Doxy for 6

months. " But I have no symptoms (including GI). Well, I just relented to

a Candida test, so we will know soon enough. I only did so because I have

constant sinus inflamation and there is a small chance that yeast could

cause it and nothing else.

Are alternative medicine doctors over the top with this Candida thing, or

is it a real problem in most of us?

Cindi

" Kathy " <kathryn@...>

07/18/00 04:40 PM

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> Yeast

Ditto for me, . No yeast problems anywhere, constipation and I often

wonder, could I still have a yeast problem?

I've taken a lot of antibiotics for bronchitis, so anyone in alternative

medicine claims I must have candidiasis.

Would like to hear more discussion on this. . .

>

> I have intestinal yeast. I don't have yeast problem anyplace else, even

when

> I am on antibiotics my yeast only gets worse in my gut...no place else.

So

> just for the fun of it I have been doing some research on yeast in the

gut.

> Almost every single thing I have found says that when there is yeast in

the

> gut you will have diarhea-WELL I AM SEVERELY CONSTIPATED ALWAYS(sorry to

> yell). And it also says when you have yeast in the gut you will most

likely

> suffer from yeast problems in other places and I don't. Is anyone else

in

> this same boat? I am afraid to use acidophillus because its mainly used

to

> help kill yeast of course but also to cure diarhea so I don't want it to

make

> me even more constipated. Has anyone here found relief from there

> constipation with acidophillus? THanks, karen

>

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Hi ,

http://www.nutritionfocus.com has a small database with references

and acidophilus is there. Their search engine is at the bottom of

the page. From that page,

" ACTIONS

Antibacterial (acidophilus produces antibacterial substances: lactic

acid, acetic acid, benzoic acid, hydrogen peroxide, acidolin,

lactocidin and acidophilin)1,2,3, anticancer, antifungal,

antihypercholesterolemic, antiulcer, digestive aid, enhances the

absorption of nutrients, inhibits the growth of vaginal bacteria

including: Escherichia coli, Candida albicans, Gardnerella

vaginalis4,5, helps maintain normal bacteria balance in lower

intestines, kills monilia, yeast or fungus on contact. "

I have used several types of supplements for yeast, and only one has

caused constipation for me (Bacillus Laterosporus BOD). This has

been resolved for me, and I like it - but you might want to avoid it

for now. I believe my problems with constipation with this one

improved when I started feeling good enough to walk nearly every day

(average 7 miles).

Otherwise, Candida Capsules (**722) - made from castor bean oil,

seems to help me quite a bit. I got that from The Modern Herbalist

http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/sf-722.html

I also manage a lot better if I keep away from foods that yeast

likes, sugars, fruits, refined carbs, anything fermented (vinegar,

alcohol). I think there is more.

If it's in your gut, have you tried eating onions? A plate of

sauteed onion isn't so bad :-) I have wondered sometimes if I've

experienced a yeast die-off after an onion meal.

There is a lot of stuff at

http://www.candidapage.com/

As usual, you have to sort through opinions, but you might find some

of it useful.

Laurie Lassesen

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Hi Cindi,

I've wondered the same thing, about Candida being blamed for a wide

assortment of things. It may be at fault for many, but it's easy for

people to throw opinions around. I have had many problems with

sinus infections, and I also have had problems with Candida, but it's

interesting that my sinuses have been much better in general since

starting abx.

Chlamydia may cause sinus infections...

http://www.4women.gov/x/owh/pr/15Mar001.htm

" In the March 15 issue of " Nucleic Acids Research " , scientists from

the United States and Canada report the complete DNA sequences of

strains of " Chlamydia trachomatis " and " C. pneumoniae " (1). Both

species live inside host cells, a property that distinguishes them

from most other bacteria, but they differ from each other in the

diseases they cause. " C. trachomatis " causes trachoma, a preventable

form of blindness in infants, and infections of the genital tract in

adults. " C. pneumoniae " causes pneumonia, bronchitis and, more

rarely, sore throats and sinus infections. This microbe has also

received increased attention because of reports suggesting it might

be linked to cardiovascular disease. Limited studies also suggest a

possible role for " C. pneumoniae " in other chronic disorders such as

Alzheimer's disease, arthritis and asthma, but more research is

needed in these areas. "

Laurie Lassesen

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, I'm in the same boat. I suspect elavil, which I took

for my sleep problem, added to the constipation. After a

number of years on it, I read that it affects the peristaltic

action of the colon and causes constipation. But the final

blow came with 4 months of doxycyclene. I have yeast

in the gut and have found that the acidophillus does not

increase the constipation. If you figure this out please

tell me. I feel so toxic, and if you have any other ideas

about how you are working with this I would love to know.

Thanks,

>I have intestinal yeast. I don't have yeast problem anyplace else, even when

>I am on antibiotics my yeast only gets worse in my gut...no place else. So

>just for the fun of it I have been doing some research on yeast in the gut.

>Almost every single thing I have found says that when there is yeast in the

>gut you will have diarhea-WELL I AM SEVERELY CONSTIPATED ALWAYS(sorry to

>yell). And it also says when you have yeast in the gut you will most likely

>suffer from yeast problems in other places and I don't. Is anyone else in

>this same boat? I am afraid to use acidophillus because its mainly used to

>help kill yeast of course but also to cure diarhea so I don't want it to make

>me even more constipated. Has anyone here found relief from there

>constipation with acidophillus? THanks, karen

>

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I didn't have a problem with constipation until I

started taking the SF-722 by Thorne. But think I have

killed all the yeast in my intestines using other

products like diflucan. I stopped taking the SF-722

and am currently just trying to control with diet.

Aloe is a good natual laxative. My doctor had me

drinking a little of this every day while I was doing

my yeast cleanse and it seemed to help. You can get

the liquid form at health food stores; I mixed it with

clorella and apple juice and it tasted pretty good.

Good luck - Jennie

--- lbinujrsy@... wrote:

> I have intestinal yeast. I don't have yeast problem

> anyplace else, even when

> I am on antibiotics my yeast only gets worse in my

> gut...no place else. So

> just for the fun of it I have been doing some

> research on yeast in the gut.

> Almost every single thing I have found says that

> when there is yeast in the

> gut you will have diarhea-WELL I AM SEVERELY

> CONSTIPATED ALWAYS(sorry to

> yell). And it also says when you have yeast in the

> gut you will most likely

> suffer from yeast problems in other places and I

> don't. Is anyone else in

> this same boat? I am afraid to use acidophillus

> because its mainly used to

> help kill yeast of course but also to cure diarhea

> so I don't want it to make

> me even more constipated. Has anyone here found

> relief from there

> constipation with acidophillus? THanks, karen

>

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>>Could you please explain the difference between brewer's and

baker's yeast ?

Thanks in advance, Rose<<

There are hundreds (thousands?) of yeast types, like any fungus.

Some people take brewer's yeast nutritionally, and it's often in

health supplements. I think Vitamin B is one that is usually in a

brewer's yeast base.

Brewer's yeast is probably a particular strain of yeast types

that are used in fermenting beer and wine bases. I've made

thousands of gallons of beer and wine et al and never once used

" brewer's yeast " although it would have worked to some extent.

Baker's yeast is a different strain that works best in the

leavening of breads. It withstands a slightly higher temperature

than brewer's yeast. That is, it continues to work(grow) in the

oven for a short while.

For ER4YT and LR4YT, a yeast would have to be specific to

determine it's status. If brewer's yeast was okay, I couldn't

arbitrarily substiute some of my home beer or wine making yeast.

You can buy either of those yeasts in packets or sachets and in

jars.

Rose in Florida

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I click into the address for unsubscribing to this group, and it doesn't

work. Please--I do not wish to be getting all this e-mail. Please

unsubscribe me from this group!!!.

Escentially Me,

Donna

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Donna,

I think you have to send the unsubscribe request to the email link. I'm not

sure though. You could always create a mail rule to block all email from the

group and that would stop it from bothering you until they can get this figured

out.

Re: yeast

I click into the address for unsubscribing to this group, and it doesn't

work. Please--I do not wish to be getting all this e-mail. Please

unsubscribe me from this group!!!.

Escentially Me,

Donna

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Donna,

Send the email to this address: candidiasis-unsubscribe

It is not a link, it is an email address. Send your email to there and you will

unsubscribe from the group.

Re: yeast

I click into the address for unsubscribing to this group, and it doesn't

work. Please--I do not wish to be getting all this e-mail. Please

unsubscribe me from this group!!!.

Escentially Me,

Donna

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which homeopathic remedies

yeast

it isnt a yeast infection we got its a sensitivity our body has to yeast.

Everyone has yeast. Especially the people who live in florida have more yeast

due to the hot and humid climate. But once you get sensitive to yeast thats when

the troubles and symptoms begin.

That whole candida theory is bull $* & % candida only grows in people with

immune problems, and it does not cause that many symptoms, as it does to us. It

is not the toxins that cause the die off it is the yeast proteins that are

immune system attacks that cause the problem and make our moths dry...

They key to overcoming this problem is to desensitize against this candida,

try homeopathic solutions 6x recomended, go to an allergist to see if you got

any mold allergies that are may cross react with the albicans protein causing

these symptoms.

This is not an infection its more of a immune dysfuntion.

take large amounts of Vitamin C, Coconut oil (antifungal), lactobacillus, and

other immune regulating herbs and your symptoms will decrease. Stop gulping

bentonite too, that dosnt help this problem one bit.

Thank you

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I definitely do not agree. Candida is absolutely a disease the same way

Epstein-Barr is a REAL disease. Do not minimize what we are going through.

I have had allergy treatments on and off for the past few years. It's not an

allergy. Also, why, all of a sudden would I have immune problems when before I

didn't? Sorry, doesn't make sense.

>it isnt a yeast infection we got its a sensitivity our body has to yeast.

Everyone has yeast. Especially the people who live in florida have more yeast

due to the hot and humid climate. But once you get sensitive to yeast thats when

the troubles and symptoms begin.

>

>That whole candida theory is bull $* & % candida only grows in people with immune

problems, and it does not cause that many symptoms, as it does to us. It is not

the toxins that cause the die off it is the yeast proteins that are immune

system attacks that cause the problem and make our moths dry...

>

>They key to overcoming this problem is to desensitize against this candida, try

homeopathic solutions 6x recomended, go to an allergist to see if you got any

mold allergies that are may cross react with the albicans protein causing these

symptoms.

>

>This is not an infection its more of a immune dysfuntion.

>take large amounts of Vitamin C, Coconut oil (antifungal), lactobacillus, and

other immune regulating herbs and your symptoms will decrease. Stop gulping

bentonite too, that dosnt help this problem one bit.

>

>Thank you

>

>

>

>

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Thats funny cause the candida yeast syndrome dosnt make much sense to doctors

all over the world.

> I definitely do not agree. Candida is absolutely a disease the same way

Epstein-Barr is a REAL disease. Do not minimize what we are going through.

> I have had allergy treatments on and off for the past few years. It's not an

allergy. Also, why, all of a sudden would I have immune problems when before I

didn't? Sorry, doesn't make sense.

>

>

>

> >it isnt a yeast infection we got its a sensitivity our body has to yeast.

Everyone has yeast. Especially the people who live in florida have more yeast

due to the hot and humid climate. But once you get sensitive to yeast thats when

the troubles and symptoms begin.

> >

> >That whole candida theory is bull $* & % candida only grows in people with

immune problems, and it does not cause that many symptoms, as it does to us. It

is not the toxins that cause the die off it is the yeast proteins that are

immune system attacks that cause the problem and make our moths dry...

> >

> >They key to overcoming this problem is to desensitize against this candida,

try homeopathic solutions 6x recomended, go to an allergist to see if you got

any mold allergies that are may cross react with the albicans protein causing

these symptoms.

> >

> >This is not an infection its more of a immune dysfuntion.

> >take large amounts of Vitamin C, Coconut oil (antifungal), lactobacillus, and

other immune regulating herbs and your symptoms will decrease. Stop gulping

bentonite too, that dosnt help this problem one bit.

> >

> >Thank you

> >

> >

> >

> >

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