help!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Sonja darling,

I just read your post.... eek!

I know you hate it, but perhaps having that tube and culture sample is a good idea. People cannot help you unless they know everything that is going on. *hug*

Lots of huggles to you dear one... you know where I am in ya need me.

Hang in there babe... you're a fighter!

Love Aisha.

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Hey Guys! I really do need a copy of the flyer ASAP! Please some one send me a

copy! I need to be able to forward it to a friend who has a friend who may come

but I need the flyer or all the info like the name of the building and address

for it. I know the times and such but not the name of the building.

Thanks,

Kimi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.Jremedies.com

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast,

unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye

know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:58/KJV

Help!!!!!!

Help! I can not get the flyer to open for the swap tomorrow! Can someone

please send me a copy? I need it ASAP. I have to get it to some people who want

to come and I will be leaving soon!

Thanks!

Kimi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.Jremedies.com

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast,

unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye

know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:58/KJV

[Guest guest]

11:00 am-3:00 pm (inishglora)

April Foods Day 2006

Carl Kroening Interpretive Center, 4900 Mississippi Court, Brooklyn Center

55429

--------- Help!!!!!!

Help! I can not get the flyer to open for the swap tomorrow! Can someone

please send me a copy? I need it ASAP. I have to get it to some people who want

to come and I will be leaving soon!

Thanks!

Kimi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.Jremedies.com

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast,

unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye

know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:58/KJV

[Guest guest]

Kimi,

April Foods Day 2006

11:00 am-3:00 pm

Carl Kroening Interpretive Center,

4900 Mississippi Court, Brooklyn Center 55429

You take the 49th / 53rd street exit off of Hwy 94.

It's off of 49th street on the East side of the highway (by the

Mississippi river)

Hope that helps,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! I have sent the info

along the happy trail of the WWW.

Kimi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.Jremedies.com

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast,

unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye

know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:58/KJV

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty,

Adding vinegar might make your brew more acidic but that would not be

the same as if it had fermented itself. Sounds to me like you need an

entirely new Kombucha Colony and some starter KT. You can leave the

one you have brewing and see if it sours by itself but I wouldn't add

vinegar because that will keep you from knowing whether or not it

worked by itself,- which it should.

Having had mold, it is a good idea to start over anyway. You could

look in the FILES section of the list homepage and see if there is

anyone near you who will share kombucha for free or just the price of

shipping.

kombucha tea

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

Manna International: Kombucha Information and Resources

Kombucha Drops - Convenient, Safe, Effective, Easy to use.

http://KMI.mannainternational.com

Manna Green & White Tea Extract - Liquid Green & White Tea Extract

http://GTE.mannainternational.com

All products made and bottled in glass

100% Certified Organic, Fair Traded, Ingredients

-- In kombucha tea , " Betty " <betty1948@...> wrote:

>

> HI everyone............ I Live in Athens, GA..

> and we have had a whole month of temps. over 90. I am so thirsty for my

> KT....... but would love for someone to advise me ON what to do with

> my batch that has been brewing for over two weeks and is still sweet.

> Can I add vinegar at this point to help the ferment or is it too late.

> Also do I need to start with a new Scoby since the first one caused

> mold on the first batch but I used the Scobies from it.

> I have searched thru digest but have a herniated disc and Fibromyalgia

> and it is not easy to sit a computer for long periods of time...

> Thank YOU..... whoever will help me!!!

> Betty in Athens

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty,

Adding vinegar might make your brew more acidic but that would not be

the same as if it had fermented itself. Sounds to me like you need an

entirely new Kombucha Colony and some starter KT. You can leave the

one you have brewing and see if it sours by itself but I wouldn't add

vinegar because that will keep you from knowing whether or not it

worked by itself,- which it should.

Having had mold, it is a good idea to start over anyway. You could

look in the FILES section of the list homepage and see if there is

anyone near you who will share kombucha for free or just the price of

shipping.

kombucha tea

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

Manna International: Kombucha Information and Resources

Kombucha Drops - Convenient, Safe, Effective, Easy to use.

http://KMI.mannainternational.com

Manna Green & White Tea Extract - Liquid Green & White Tea Extract

http://GTE.mannainternational.com

All products made and bottled in glass

100% Certified Organic, Fair Traded, Ingredients

-- In kombucha tea , " Betty " <betty1948@...> wrote:

>

> HI everyone............ I Live in Athens, GA..

> and we have had a whole month of temps. over 90. I am so thirsty for my

> KT....... but would love for someone to advise me ON what to do with

> my batch that has been brewing for over two weeks and is still sweet.

> Can I add vinegar at this point to help the ferment or is it too late.

> Also do I need to start with a new Scoby since the first one caused

> mold on the first batch but I used the Scobies from it.

> I have searched thru digest but have a herniated disc and Fibromyalgia

> and it is not easy to sit a computer for long periods of time...

> Thank YOU..... whoever will help me!!!

> Betty in Athens

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

Welcome to the group. I remember how good it felt to connect with

people that were experiencing similar problems when I suddenly found

my back was not actually going to be " as good as new " for the rest of

my life, as promised by my original surgeon. It's somewhat stunning

for folks who had little problem with their back after the original

surgery and who assumed that we would never have problems again and

then wham!....you are suddenly as vulnerable as you were as a teen.

All that said, please try to relax. You have consulted a surgeon or

doctor who apparently has at least determined that whatever is going

on with you is not an emergency. It rarely is. That is good. It means

you literally have all the time you need to decide about what you

want to do going forward. You don't say what you actual physical

condition or pain levels are right now...but generally speaking, I

believe that successful revision surgeries can happen well into a

patients later 60's...so try to remind yourself to take things very

slowly.

We have got tons of information here...some of which you will have to

use to sleuth a little further as your own situation warrants. Most

of us are in the USA, although we have members from around the world.

The trick is that you may or may not have access to medical help that

really is ready to help you...and I don't know what options you might

have for financial/insurance coverage if you leave SA. I am guessing

that is going to be your big hurdle. I will say unequivicably that I

would not let a surgeon do surgery on me that has the track record

you outlined.

If you go back into the cyberworld you will find many patients in the

US from the mid 90's who were the guine pigs, if you will, of

flatback revision. I think its fair to say that their outcomes have

not been as good as those that came later. The learning curve on this

surgery is high. It is a very complex surgery and really, the surgeon

only has one shot at getting it right. Subsequent surgeries can

happen, but every time they change your anatomy it permanantly

changes your future options...and the risks for an unsuccessful

outcome rise.

I often refer folks to the Scoliosis Research Society (www.srs.org)

for a starting place to locate help. It is an international society,

and members must devote considerable amounts of their practice to

deformity surgery, so at least you know that doctors on their list

have a deep interest in the subject, if not the exact skills you

need. Unfortunately I see only one listing for SA...although he does

list specialty areas you need. I am guessing this is the guy you have

already seen, but if not, he may be someone to consult:

Dunn, FCS (SA)

Consultant Spine Surgeon

PO Box 30086

Tokai 7966

South Africa

Phone: 27 21 7628794

Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions,

Juvenile/Infantile

As you delve further into this we can get to more of your questions.

The surgery is difficult and the recovery is long....but it is

possible to travel in the aftemath of surgery...many of us have

travelled some distance to have our surgeries. It just requires

patience and planning.

As I said before...just try to take a deep breath. You have time. You

are among friends and we will help you through this mountain of

information.

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

thanks soo much for the response - was also given the name of : Oheneba Boachie-Adjei , managed to find his email address and have sent him an email - am waiting for a response. i will most definately try and get hold fo the dr you suggested - he is not the original one i saw - he is in Cape Town - which is only an hours flight from me. Thanks again and really do appreciate the help.

regards

From: cammaltby <cammaltby@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Help!!!!!! Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:53 PM

Jackie,Welcome to the group. I remember how good it felt to connect with people that were experiencing similar problems when I suddenly found my back was not actually going to be "as good as new" for the rest of my life, as promised by my original surgeon. It's somewhat stunning for folks who had little problem with their back after the original surgery and who assumed that we would never have problems again and then wham!....you are suddenly as vulnerable as you were as a teen.All that said, please try to relax. You have consulted a surgeon or doctor who apparently has at least determined that whatever is going on with you is not an emergency. It rarely is. That is good. It means you literally have all the time you need to decide about what you want to do going forward. You don't say what you actual physical condition or pain levels are right now...but generally speaking, I believe

that successful revision surgeries can happen well into a patients later 60's...so try to remind yourself to take things very slowly.We have got tons of information here...some of which you will have to use to sleuth a little further as your own situation warrants. Most of us are in the USA, although we have members from around the world. The trick is that you may or may not have access to medical help that really is ready to help you...and I don't know what options you might have for financial/insurance coverage if you leave SA. I am guessing that is going to be your big hurdle. I will say unequivicably that I would not let a surgeon do surgery on me that has the track record you outlined. If you go back into the cyberworld you will find many patients in the US from the mid 90's who were the guine pigs, if you will, of flatback revision. I think its fair to say that their outcomes have

not been as good as those that came later. The learning curve on this surgery is high. It is a very complex surgery and really, the surgeon only has one shot at getting it right. Subsequent surgeries can happen, but every time they change your anatomy it permanantly changes your future options...and the risks for an unsuccessful outcome rise.I often refer folks to the Scoliosis Research Society (www.srs.org) for a starting place to locate help. It is an international society, and members must devote considerable amounts of their practice to deformity surgery, so at least you know that doctors on their list have a deep interest in the subject, if not the exact skills you need. Unfortunately I see only one listing for SA...although he does list specialty areas you need. I am guessing this is the guy you have already seen, but if not, he may be someone to consult: Dunn, FCS

(SA)Consultant Spine SurgeonPO Box 30086Tokai 7966South AfricaPhone: 27 21 7628794Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions, Juvenile/Infantile As you delve further into this we can get to more of your questions. The surgery is difficult and the recovery is long....but it is possible to travel in the aftemath of surgery...many of us have travelled some distance to have our surgeries. It just requires patience and planning.As I said before...just try to take a deep breath. You have time. You are among friends and we will help you through this mountain of information.Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

Jackie,

Well...DrBoachie is well known to all of us. I would say he is one of

the pioneers of finding a good fix for flatback and he is highly

regarded internationally. He practices, as you know, at the Hospital

for Special Surgery in NYC but also does a mission to

Africa ...although I dont know if he will be anywhere near you. I

believe this is around the time of the year he is over seas. It would

be worth a call to the NYC office if you don't hear anything soon. I

had my second opinion with him and was very happy I did. Many here on

this group have had revision with him.

Please let us know whatever you do next!

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

i use a FLEET enema and use it 2x get the 2 pack im on so many opiate meds i use it now and make sure you hold back form going as long as possoble its not a long term tooll but will produce stool in moments. IT will hol you till Bridwell. I get the 2 pack and use it aevery 2 wks its fairly easy to insett i find lying on my side and injection the rubber tube very easy and then relax and hold out from going even though you feel within 1 minute you need to . you wont get diareeah but it produces a stol or 2. At least the bloating will subside so you can rest and i also use gas x chewables after. that distended feeling is the pits so get your hubby to go out and get the 2 pack pre mixed FLEETS enema it does work

Donna

310-595-6462

From: lufflauren@...Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:00:30 +0000Subject: [ ] HELP!!!!!!

HI EVERYONE

I hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me. (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)

I am completely constipated!! My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful. However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY today! Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.

I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated!!!

I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!

thanks fro listenng!!!

with hugs, lauren

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this!!  Just what you need. I had the exact same - that TPN is like glue, on top of the narcotics. I also couldn't relax in a sitting position. I used Dulcolax suppositories and it worked fairly well a few times. I also used Sennokot which is gentler once things start to move. Bernie approved both of those as well as Fleet enemas if you need them. Use whatever it takes - you will feel much better once you start going.  This may last a while but not forever. Much better to use laxatives or enemas than developing painful hemmirhoids. Good luck!  Take care -Eve Sent from my iPodOn Jun 11, 2009, at 11:00 PM, "lufflauren" <lufflauren@...> wrote:

HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time!  I know Eve &   have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that.  I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.  (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)I am completely constipated!!  My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go,

but when I try, it's not productive.  It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated.  After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet.  In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus.  Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water.  I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt.  Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.  However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY today!  Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.  I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated!!!I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren

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,

I had the same problem after surgery with my bowels. Graphic, yeah, but if you are not going, it's serious. I'm a twice a day gal, and after surgery I went but very little, and some days, not at all. At the hospital they gave me enemas, same results as you, mucus and water, nothing else. When I was home then I got nausous, and couldn't keep anything on my stomach. Called my regular doc, and Kumar, both thought I'd picked up a virus in the hospital, nobody asked how my bowels were working. Ended up at my regular doc, and guess what, they thought I might be pregnant, thus a pregnancy test, and then the line about a virus, They gave me an IV of fluids, and sent me home. I continued to get worse, to the point where I couldn't even get liquids to stay down. Off to the emergency room, on three different occasions, IV's again to tank up my fluids, and yes three more pregnancy tests, which blew my mind, who's having sex with a post op patient who can't keep anything down, UGH, and yet they said you must have a hospital born virus. After three weeks of this, I was a mess.

At that point my dear friend from Oregon called, and she was very concerned when she heard me, and she began asking questions, and she went straight to how my bowels were working, I told her very little to nothing at all. We ended the conversation, and she called back minutes later. Her hubby is a doctor, and at one point was an infectous disease doc. He didn't thing this was a virus, but my bowels, and I was getting toxic. His idea, fiber caplets, and a lot of them. Sent off to the store, and he came back with Citrucel, and I took them as my friends hubby suggested. Within two hours, things were grumbling, and after a bit of straining, things got started moving, what was there was very hard at first. I took those tablets like they were as important as my pain med's cause they were. They kept things moving, and i also took the stool softeners too. Once things got moving I felt better, got some energy back, and I could keep fluids down, and then my appetite came back. I had to be on them at the maxium levels the whole time I was on pain meds. You do have to drink a lot of fluids with the fiber caplets.

I say try everything people have suggested, a combo may help you, and please take this seriously, cause you don't want to end up like I did, it was truly worse than the surgery itself, cause when you are that ill, it really scares you. Make sure your doc hears you about this, get his suggestions too.

Colorado Springs

[ ] HELP!!!!!!

HI EVERYONE

I hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me. (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)

I am completely constipated!! My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful. However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY today! Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.

I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated!!!

I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!

thanks fro listenng!!!

with hugs, lauren

[Guest guest]

,The worst part of any surgery! All those meds mess you up. I cried with relief after my first BM. I found the stool softeners weren't enough. I did one laxative suppository (maybe a second a day or two later) to get things moving. And added Metamucil to the stool softener and I finally started to become regular. About the pain sitting on the potty... did you get a handicap toilet seat? Try to adjust the height down so your feet rest comfortably flat on the floor. Mine was too high and my legs kept going to sleep. I hope this helps, you'll get better as you find the right mix of meds.-DyannFrom: lufflauren <lufflauren@...>Subject: [ ] HELP!!!!!! Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:00 PM

HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time!  I know Eve &   have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that.  I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.  (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)I am completely constipated!!  My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but when I try, it's not productive.

 It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated.  After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet.  In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus.  Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water.  I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt.  Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.  However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY today!  Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.  I know I may sound a

little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated!!!I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren

[Guest guest]

,

Call Bernie, They gave me suppositories that did the trick! See you on Monday. Hope all will be better by then.

D

[ ] HELP!!!!!!

HI EVERYONE

I hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me. (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)

I am completely constipated!! My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful. However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY today! Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.

I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated!!!

I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!

thanks fro listenng!!!

with hugs, lauren

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[Guest guest]

I had the same problem. I convinced my husband to put on a glove and pull it

out.

>

> HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great

> time!  I know Eve &   have posted some updates on my

> status and I really appreciate that.  I will be sending a more full

> report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm

> having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.

>  (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's

> not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)I am completely constipated!!

>  My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but

> when I try, it's not productive.  It's also difficult to sit there

> and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when

> seated.  After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes

> it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet.  In the hospital I

> began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just

> passing a lot of gas and mucus.  Once I got to the Metrolofts on

> Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water.  I've

> also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt.  Last night,

> after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.

>  However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like

> I've needed to go ALL DAY today!  Besides the hemorrhoids that

> have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while

> seated.  I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the

> culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so

> greatly appreciated!!!I will be back in touch with more about my general

> recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and

> reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren

>

[Guest guest]

warm prune juice and milk of mag worked for me in the hospital. a cocktail that finally did the trick! Melinda

From: lufflauren <lufflauren@...>Subject: [ ] HELP!!!!!! Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:00 PM

HI EVERYONE

I hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me. (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It' s not a pretty subject, be forewarned.. )

I am completely constipated! ! My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night, after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful. However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like I've needed to go ALL DAY

today! Besides the hemorrhoids that have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while seated.

I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so greatly appreciated! !!

I will be back in touch with more about my general recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and reslts thus far!

thanks fro listenng!!!

with hugs, lauren

[Guest guest]

,

I just wanted to say that I am glad you are out of the hospital...though sorry

that your are venturing through the problem that you are. I hope by the numbers

of comments that you have gotten you realize that every one of us knows exactly

what you are talking about! dont be embarrassed.

My first few weeks home included several packages of the Dulcolax

suppositories....as well as begin very mindful of the dehydrating effects of

pain meds and staying very hydrated. Also, as someone suggested, make sure you

have a toilet seat riser and it is the right height for you. Dont wait to

contact the doctors office if you dont' get things moving along soon, as I know

your body can eventually react by wanting to throw up everything you put in

it...and that would not be an easy thing to do right now.

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

Just to echo what others have said...everyone has some version of this problem and everyone reacts differently to different remedies, so do whatever works!! I took all the stool softeners and stimulators, citrucel capsules, and metamucil religiously for a week and it did absolutely nothing -- I know those work great for some people but not me. I would not expect Bridwell or Bernie to be very helpful on this one (they weren't for me when I was in tears about the problem) -- so try everything and see what works for you. It will happen soon and you'll slowly feel much better.Take good care and we are rooting for you!EveFrom: cammaltby <cammaltby@...> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:31:32 PMSubject: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

,

I just wanted to say that I am glad you are out of the hospital...though sorry that your are venturing through the problem that you are. I hope by the numbers of comments that you have gotten you realize that every one of us knows exactly what you are talking about! dont be embarrassed.

My first few weeks home included several packages of the Dulcolax suppositories. ...as well as begin very mindful of the dehydrating effects of pain meds and staying very hydrated. Also, as someone suggested, make sure you have a toilet seat riser and it is the right height for you. Dont wait to contact the doctors office if you dont' get things moving along soon, as I know your body can eventually react by wanting to throw up everything you put in it...and that would not be an easy thing to do right now.

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

Miralax works well for me. I saw commercials about it, it used to be available by prescription only. Granted, it isn't something that is going to give overnight relief but is a good daily or every other day regimen to get regular and stay that way. It is a white powdery substance that you mix with water, or any liquid. It is virtually tasteless and dissolves completely. It is more for staying regular as when I've used it with no other aids, it was about 3 days before anything moved. It doesn't cause any cramping, gas, or discomfort at all, and doesn't make you keep going and going like some laxatives can do.

Once after my mother had surgery, she got into pretty rough shape and either didn't realize she was badly constipated or just didn't say it. We made a trip to the doctor's office and it turned out that there was an impaction. The nurse, boy the things nurses have to do, put on her gloves and, well, I guess the rest is self-explanatory.

They emphasized to her that she needed to work at it from both ends, like oral intake of softeners, etc., as well as suppositories or enemas, etc. on the other end. This was to be done (both ends) only until everything got back to normal. So, for what it's worth I thought I might share that tidbit in case it might help someone who is getting backed up.

G

[ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

,I just wanted to say that I am glad you are out of the hospital...though sorry that your are venturing through the problem that you are. I hope by the numbers of comments that you have gotten you realize that every one of us knows exactly what you are talking about! dont be embarrassed.My first few weeks home included several packages of the Dulcolax suppositories. ...as well as begin very mindful of the dehydrating effects of pain meds and staying very hydrated. Also, as someone suggested, make sure you have a toilet seat riser and it is the right height for you. Dont wait to contact the doctors office if you dont' get things moving along soon, as I know your body can eventually react by wanting to throw up everything you put in it...and that would not be an easy thing to do right now.Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

Try generic brand Bisacodyl USP (5 mg),

same as Dulcolax. Doctor recommended taking 2 tablets every day as needed

after surgery. Worked well and fast (within 6-12 hours) without stomach

cramps and going all day. Just took for first week or two after

surgery. Took once a few weeks ago when needed with no issues. Also

remember to drink lots of water which helps flush out your system. Not

soda, juice, tea, coffee, but lots of water. At least 8 large 8 oz.

glasses a day. I notice a difference when I don’t drink enough

water. Work on increasing your fiber intake. Check out food labels

for fiber content and also eat fresh fruits and vegetables. Another good

source of fiber are Fiber One bars. I eat 3-4 of those a week and they don’t

taste like cardboard. I also eat one of those small individual servings

of applesauce every day. Treetop brand has more fiber than Mott’s

and tastes better. Quick and easy source of some fiber.

Hope this information helps.

Jodi

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gross

Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:32

PM

Subject: Re: [ ]

Re: HELP!!!!!!

Miralax

works well for me. I saw commercials about it, it used to be available by

prescription only. Granted, it isn't something that is going to give

overnight relief but is a good daily or every other day regimen to get regular

and stay that way. It is a white powdery substance that you mix with

water, or any liquid. It is virtually tasteless and dissolves

completely. It is more for staying regular as when I've used it with no

other aids, it was about 3 days before anything moved. It doesn't cause

any cramping, gas, or discomfort at all, and doesn't make you keep going

and going like some laxatives can do.

Once after my mother had surgery, she got into pretty rough

shape and either didn't realize she was badly constipated or just didn't say

it. We made a trip to the doctor's office and it turned out that there

was an impaction. The nurse, boy the things nurses have to do, put on her

gloves and, well, I guess the rest is self-explanatory.

They emphasized to her that she needed to work at it from

both ends, like oral intake of softeners, etc., as well as suppositories or

enemas, etc. on the other end. This was to be done (both ends) only

until everything got back to normal. So, for what it's worth I thought I

might share that tidbit in case it might help someone who is getting backed

up.

G

[ ] Re:

HELP!!!!!!

,

I just wanted to say that I am glad you are out of the hospital...though sorry that

your are venturing through the problem that you are. I hope by the numbers of

comments that you have gotten you realize that every one of us knows exactly

what you are talking about! dont be embarrassed.

My first few weeks home included several packages of the Dulcolax

suppositories. ...as well as begin very mindful of the dehydrating effects of

pain meds and staying very hydrated. Also, as someone suggested, make sure you

have a toilet seat riser and it is the right height for you. Dont wait to contact

the doctors office if you dont' get things moving along soon, as I know your

body can eventually react by wanting to throw up everything you put in it...and

that would not be an easy thing to do right now.

Take Care, Cam

[Guest guest]

maybe do a colonics and it pulls out all waste lodged material have it done at a hopistal or clinicn where thats all tehy do, the celebs swear by it get it ok from your surgeon and see if they can refer you

Donna

310-595-6462

From: bahadreama@...Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:42:18 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

I had the same problem. I convinced my husband to put on a glove and pull it out. >> HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great> time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my> status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full> report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm> having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.> (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It's> not a pretty subject, be forewarned..)I am completely constipated!!> My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but> when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there> and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when> seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes> it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I> began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just> passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on> Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've> also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night,> after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.> However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like> I've needed to go ALL DAY today! Besides the hemorrhoids that> have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while> seated. I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the> culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so> greatly appreciated!!!I will be back in touch with more about my general> recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and> reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren>

[Guest guest]

hi everyone!thank you all for your helpful advice.  I was able to get some relief twice from the fleet enema.  (Thank goodness!)  (Not Fun) I will continue with my tons of water, fiber, stool stimulator, and citrucel.  lets hope things stay pretty regular.  Dr.Bridwell also tweaked my meds a bit with a little less narcotics and more muscle relaxers and nerve pain medicine.  keeping my fingers crossed.you are all so thoughtful and full of great information!hugs,laurenFrom: Donna <donnadavis609@...> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 5:16:53 PMSubject: RE: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

maybe do a colonics and it pulls out all waste lodged material have it done at a hopistal or clinicn where thats all tehy do, the celebs swear by it get it ok from your surgeon and see if they can refer you

Donna

310-595-6462 

From: bahadreama (DOT) comDate: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:42:18 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

I had the same problem. I convinced my husband to put on a glove and pull it out. >> HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great> time!  I know Eve &   have posted some updates on my> status and I really appreciate that.  I will be sending a more full> report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm> having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.>  (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It' s> not a pretty subject, be forewarned.. )I am completely constipated! !>  My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but> when I try, it's not productive.  It's also difficult to

sit there> and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when> seated.  After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes> it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet.  In the hospital I> began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just> passing a lot of gas and mucus.  Once I got to the Metrolofts on> Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water.  I've> also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt.  Last night,> after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.>  However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like> I've needed to go ALL DAY today!  Besides the hemorrhoids  that> have now developed  , I now have another reason to be sore while> seated.  I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the> culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be

so> greatly appreciated! !!I will be back in touch with more about my general> recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and> reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if any of the other surgeons do this but Dr. Hey had me start Senokot 2-3 days before surgery. It kept me from getting stopped up and I actually had diarrhea a day after surgery.P.S. I just finished a 14-hour drive to attend my baby's graduation. Back: fine; fibromyalgia: ouch!PeggySent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Luff Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:05:46 -0700 (PDT)< >Subject: Re: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!! hi everyone!thank you all for your helpful advice.  I was able to get some relief twice from the fleet enema.  (Thank goodness!)  (Not Fun) I will continue with my tons of water, fiber, stool stimulator, and citrucel.  lets hope things stay pretty regular.  Dr.Bridwell also tweaked my meds a bit with a little less narcotics and more muscle relaxers and nerve pain medicine.  keeping my fingers crossed.you are all so thoughtful and full of great information!hugs,laurenFrom: Donna <donnadavis609hotmail> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 5:16:53 PMSubject: RE: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!! maybe do a colonics and it pulls out all waste lodged material have it done at a hopistal or clinicn where thats all tehy do, the celebs swear by it get it ok from your surgeon and see if they can refer youDonna 310-595-6462  From: bahadreama (DOT) comDate: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:42:18 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: HELP!!!!!! I had the same problem. I convinced my husband to put on a glove and pull it out. >> HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great> time!  I know Eve &   have posted some updates on my> status and I really appreciate that.  I will be sending a more full> report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm> having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.>  (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It' s> not a pretty subject, be forewarned.. )I am completely constipated! !>  My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but> when I try, it's not productive.  It's also difficult to sit there> and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when> seated.  After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes> it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet.  In the hospital I> began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just> passing a lot of gas and mucus.  Once I got to the Metrolofts on> Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water.  I've> also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt.  Last night,> after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.>  However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like> I've needed to go ALL DAY today!  Besides the hemorrhoids  that> have now developed  , I now have another reason to be sore while> seated.  I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the> culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so> greatly appreciated! !!I will be back in touch with more about my general> recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and> reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren>

[Guest guest]

Congrats Luren for your much needed relief!

Contrats Peggy for your daughter's graduation & managing a trip that long!

G

[ ] Re: HELP!!!!!!

I had the same problem. I convinced my husband to put on a glove and pull it out. >> HI EVERYONEI hope those of you that went to the retreat had a great> time! I know Eve & have posted some updates on my> status and I really appreciate that. I will be sending a more full> report of my experiences since surgery last Tuesday, but right now I'm> having an issue that I'm hoping someone may have some advice for me.> (Please forgive me for being me for being a little graphic...It' s> not a pretty subject, be forewarned.. )I am completely constipated! !> My stomach is very descended and I feel like I'm ready to go, but> when I try, it's not productive. It's also difficult to sit there> and relax because I've had post-surgical leg pain that gets so bad when> seated. After 5 minutes, I start moving my legs around but it makes> it almost impossible to be calm on the toilet. In the hospital I> began colace and a stool stimulator, but up until I left I was just> passing a lot of gas and mucus. Once I got to the Metrolofts on> Tuesday, I've been continuing the colace and tons of water. I've> also added prunes, salads, fruits, & activia yogurt. Last night,> after many times of trying to move my bowels, I was a little successful.> However, that was the one and only time thus far, yet I've felt like> I've needed to go ALL DAY today! Besides the hemorrhoids that> have now developed , I now have another reason to be sore while> seated. I know I may sound a little unclear, hence the meds, the> culprit of this issue at ahnd, but any input or advice wouldl be so> greatly appreciated! !!I will be back in touch with more about my general> recovery so fr, but Dr.Bridwell seemed very plesed with the incision and> reslts thus far!thanks fro listenng!!!with hugs, lauren>