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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 > Duncan, you asked about veg sources of boron. What about organic > cabbage? (which I eat a lot of) Dandelion is also listed. Hi Nina, Blanket statements on mineral content of vegetables are invalid. Just as selenium is only present in Brazil nuts grown on selenium-rich soil (soil in Brazil, not Central America, contains selenium), boron is only concentrated in plants grown on boron-rich soil. So, you have to know the soil conditions of your organic cabbage or dandelions, or go ahead and supplement boron (or whatever deficient mineral). > My info > says that what boron does is help limit calcium and magnesium > excretion. Last I was tested, my calcium excretion was on the low > side, although within normal limits. Excess calcium excretion is > definitely not my problem. So it seems to me that getting > supplemental boron won't get me where I need to go. Deficiency of a mineral or other component that is essential for bone growth will not get you to where you need to go. > Absorbing the minerals I eat is probably closer to what my problem is. Bowel dysbiosis, a fluourish of the wrong bacterial cultures in the bowel, does not provide the acidity required to ionise and absorb minerals in the colon. In my view the resulting malnutrition is is behind most ladies' osteoporosis. Correcting that with inulin has been shown to increase bone mineral density. Another thing proven to increase bone density in elderly people is increasing growth hormone, a requirement for any cell growth to occur, including bone cells. > I've ordered the liquid calcium supplement, OsteoProCare, that you > recommended. I thank you for that. I'm also starting liquid silica. > We'll see what that does. Obviously, it takes a long time before we > know the impact of changes on bone density. However, I am being > monitored for blood values. If these get dramatically better, I'll > tell y'all right away. How do blood values tell you anything beyone what is circulating? They certainly don't reflect what's going on in the bones. > I've taken up weight training again. I am small and light, my job is > sedentary and indoors, and I have a history of hyperthyroidism, > including a very recent history spanning the time period of my rapid > bone loss. From what I read, exercise has more of an impact on bone > health than diet does; sunlight as well. Thyroid hormone is an important part of wellness bone generation; it synergizes with growth hormone and insulin activity. I'm thinking that if you increase your HGH it will work even better with a moderately elevated thyroid. If you want to suppress yout thyroid output, soy and fluoride-containing foods would probably do it. > One thing I've discovered for sure; there is no quick fix or easy pill > for osteoporosis. Drugs can increase bone density results, but they > don't build healthy bone and they don't build health. That's what they're finding out on the osteoporosis list. Fosamax does nothing at all to build new bone. > Thank you all for your suggestions and support. Duncan, again I'd > appreciate knowing which osteoporosis list this is that you are on. osteoporosis/ Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Duncan, <<Deficiency of a mineral or other component that is essential for bone growth will not get you to where you need to go. >> I don't know that I am deficient in boron, or any other minerals. As CArol pointed out to me, blue-green algae has good-quality boron, and I am an algae eater. It has other good minerals too. << Bowel dysbiosis, a fluourish of the wrong bacterial cultures in the bowel, does not provide the acidity required to ionise and absorb minerals in the colon. In my view the resulting malnutrition is is behind most ladies' osteoporosis. Correcting that with inulin has been shown to increase bone mineral density. >> Is there a test for this? I looked up inulin on the web and found: <<Inulin is found naturally in more than 36,000 types of plants worldwide. It is estimated that approximately one-third of the earth's vegetation contain this substance. >> <<If you want to suppress your thyroid output, soy and fluoride-containing foods would probably do it.>> I've been eating tofu daily since my bad results came back, because I observed that over the last 12 years, my good years were big tofu years and my bad years were tofu-abstinence years. I just had a full thyroid workup, with tofu in my diet. Levels were fine. <<Fosamax does nothing at all to build new bone.>> Do you mean new bone, or new good-quality bone? Lots of people have better bone densitometry readings with Fosamax. The issue is, does it prevent fractures? Thank you for the list address. I'm going to subscribe. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Very interesting. Raisins are said to be a good source of boron. Rgds Hans > > I have just been reading " Tears behind closed doors " and on page 172 > it suggests taking boron to remove fluoride from the body. Does > anyone know what this supplement is and what dosage is required/safe? > It only mentions that it is available worldwide except in Australia. > > Thanks, > Miriam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 MMMM Raisins Nice way to remove fluoride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have found a useful page of information about boron. http://www.jctonic.com/include/minerals/boron.htm However, I would really like to know more about the specific supplement mentioned in Holmes's book if possible. Miriam > > I have just been reading " Tears behind closed doors " and on page 172 > it suggests taking boron to remove fluoride from the body. Does > anyone know what this supplement is and what dosage is required/safe? > It only mentions that it is available worldwide except in Australia. > > Thanks, > Miriam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 , This has implications for those with Chronic Lyme too as inflammation can be particularly troublesome! I am going to pass this on to them! I notice there a number of good foods with Boron. Especially Avocado which has a lot of other benefits to it " Foods particularly rich in boron include avocado, peanuts, pecans, grapes, raisins, and wine. Legumes, nuts, and avocados contain 1.0-4.5 mg boron/100 g, while fruits and vegetables provide 0.1-0.6 mg boron/100 g. Meat and dairy products are poor sources, providing <0.6 mg boron/100 g. (3) " Many thanks! msadams@... www.msadams.com Moderator of Lyme_rife list Lyme_Rife/ > [silverPets] Re: Boron > > Hi below are a couple of links about boron: > > It has been unexpectedly observed that the oral administration of > boron-containing compounds such as sodium borate and boric acid at > levels of 1 to 10 mg per day will increase the amount of circulating > biologically active hydroxylated steroids in animal plasma. > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4849220.html > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_4_9/ai_n9479460/ > > Boron impacts steroid hormone metabolism in humans, affecting > the levels > of estrogens and testosterone. (13) It has been hypothesized > that boron > interacts with steroid hormones by facilitating hydroxylation > reactions, > and possibly by acting in some manner to protect steroid > hormones from > rapid degradation. (13) > > Boron's anti-inflammatory actions have been attributed to various > mechanisms. These include suppression of serine proteases released by > inflammation-activated white blood cells, inhibition of leukotriene > synthesis, reduction of reactive oxygen species generated during > neutrophil's respiratory burst, and suppression of T-cell > activity and > antibody concentrations. (19) > > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_4_9/ai_n9479460/ > > http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=52C.R. wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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