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Amy,

You say your has alot of stomach pain? sounds like my

what if any meds do you give her for the stomach pain? I was looking at

Mylanta

for children but, Der gets sick and throws up when his jra is hitting him

real hard.

Take care:)

Teena

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Hi everyone

I was wondering - also has stomach pain and she keeps getting an upset

stomach. Unfortunately in South Africa we have limited access to decent

anti-inflamatories, so she is on relifan which makes her tummy hurt. So the

doc has now put her on ant-acids to help and it certainly seems to be

working.

Does anyone have a child with lots of upset stomachs too? Just interested

any any different remedies you may know of.

thanks

Ady Ogilvie

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> SED rate info/ESR blood test

> Alternative names: erythrocyte sedimentation rate; sed rate;

> sedimentation rate

>

> Normal values: (Westergren method*)

> Adults: Men under 50 years old: less than 15 mm/hr.

> > Men over 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > Women under 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > Women over 50 years old: less than 30 mm/hr.

>

> Pediatric: Newborn: 0 to 2 mm/hr.

> > Neonatal to puberty: 3 to 13 mm/hr.

>

> Note: mm/hr. = millimeters per hour Other methods will have differing

> values.

>

> Definition: A nonspecific screening test for various inflammatory

> diseases. The test measures the distance (in millimeters) that red blood

> cells settle in unclotted blood toward the bottom of a specially marked

> test tube in 1 hour.

>

> How the test is performed: Adult or child: Blood is drawn from a vein

> (venipuncture), usually from the inside of the elbow or the back of the

> hand. The puncture site is cleaned with antiseptic, and a tourniquet (an

> elastic band) or blood pressure cuff is placed around the upper arm to

> apply pressure and restrict blood flow through the vein. This causes

> veins below the tourniquet to distend (fill with blood). A needle is

> inserted into the vein, and the blood is collected in an air-tight vial

> or a syringe. During the procedure, the tourniquet is removed to restore

> circulation. Once the blood has been collected, the needle is removed,

> and the puncture site is covered to stop any bleeding.

>

> Infant or young child: The area is cleansed with antiseptic and

> punctured with a sharp needle or a lancet. The blood may be collected in

> a pipette (small glass tube), on a slide, onto a test strip, or into a

> small container. Cotton or a bandage may be applied to the puncture site

> if there is any continued bleeding.

>

> How to prepare for the test: There are no food or fluid restrictions.

> The physical and psychological preparation you can provide for this or

> any test or procedure depends on your child's age, interests, previous

> experience, and level of trust.

>

> How the test will feel: When the needle is inserted to draw blood, some

> people feel moderate pain, while others feel only a prick or stinging

> sensation. Afterward, there may be some throbbing.

>

> What the risks are: excessive bleeding fainting or feeling lightheaded

> hematoma (blood accumulating under the skin) infection (a slight risk

> any time the skin is broken) multiple punctures to locate veins

>

> Why the test is performed: The test is most commonly performed for

> suspected rheumatologic disorders. The erythrocyte sedimentation rate

> (ESR) can be used to monitor inflammatory or malignant disease,

> rheumatic fever, and acute myocardial infarction. Although it is a

> screening test (not considered diagnostic for any particular disorder),

> it is useful in detecting and monitoring tuberculosis, tissue necrosis

> (tissue death),

> connective tissue disease, or an otherwise unsuspected disease in which

> symptoms are vague or physical findings are minimal.

>

>

> What abnormal results mean:

> Elevated values occur with: kidney disease pregnancy rheumatic fever

> rheumatoid arthritis severe anemia

> syphilis systemic lupus erythematosus thyroid disease tuberculosis

>

> Markedly elevated values occur with: giant cell (temporal, cranial)

> arteritis multiple myeloma macroglobulinemia - primary

> hyperfibrinogenemia (elevated fibrinogen levels in the blood)

> necrotizing vasculitis polymyalgia rheumatica

>

> Additional conditions that may affect test results:

> >

> > allergic vasculitis

> > atrial myxoma; left

> > atrial myxoma; right

> > autoimmune hepatitis

> > endometritis

> > eosinophilic fasciitis

> > erysipelas

> > juvenile rheumatoid arthritis

> > Legionnaire's disease

> > osteomyelitis

> > pelvic inflammatory disease (PID)

> > pericarditis; post-MI

> > retroperitoneal fibrosis

> > skin lesion of blastomycosis

> > subacute thyroiditis

> > systemic sclerosis (scleroderma)

>

> Cost: The estimated cost is $11.

>

> Special considerations: Veins and arteries vary in size from one patient

> to another and from one side of the body to the other. Obtaining a blood

> sample from some people may be more difficult than from others.

>

> _____

>

>

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Hi Ady:

When my daughter was on Naprosyn, she used to get a lot of stomach upssest even

though we were taking Zantac (rhinitidine) with it. You should really watch out

for these anti-infalmmatory pills as they can cause ulcers in the stomach. My

daughter developed a bleeding ulcer and we had to stop it. May be you can ask

your dr if he knows of any new anti-inflammatory drugs that are out in the

market. Please take care.....

Adrienne Ogilvie <aogilvie@...> on 01/17/2000 01:13:21 AM

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Subject: RE: SED rates

From: Adrienne Ogilvie <aogilvie@...>

Hi everyone

I was wondering - also has stomach pain and she keeps getting an upset

stomach. Unfortunately in South Africa we have limited access to decent

anti-inflamatories, so she is on relifan which makes her tummy hurt. So the

doc has now put her on ant-acids to help and it certainly seems to be

working.

Does anyone have a child with lots of upset stomachs too? Just interested

any any different remedies you may know of.

thanks

Ady Ogilvie

M-Net Marketing

aogilvie@...

> SED rate info/ESR blood test

> Alternative names: erythrocyte sedimentation rate; sed rate;

> sedimentation rate

>

> Normal values: (Westergren method*)

> Adults: Men under 50 years old: less than 15 mm/hr.

> > Men over 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > Women under 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > Women over 50 years old: less than 30 mm/hr.

>

> Pediatric: Newborn: 0 to 2 mm/hr.

> > Neonatal to puberty: 3 to 13 mm/hr.

>

> Note: mm/hr. = millimeters per hour Other methods will have differing

> values.

>

> Definition: A nonspecific screening test for various inflammatory

> diseases. The test measures the distance (in millimeters) that red blood

> cells settle in unclotted blood toward the bottom of a specially marked

> test tube in 1 hour.

>

> How the test is performed: Adult or child: Blood is drawn from a vein

> (venipuncture), usually from the inside of the elbow or the back of the

> hand. The puncture site is cleaned with antiseptic, and a tourniquet (an

> elastic band) or blood pressure cuff is placed around the upper arm to

> apply pressure and restrict blood flow through the vein. This causes

> veins below the tourniquet to distend (fill with blood). A needle is

> inserted into the vein, and the blood is collected in an air-tight vial

> or a syringe. During the procedure, the tourniquet is removed to restore

> circulation. Once the blood has been collected, the needle is removed,

> and the puncture site is covered to stop any bleeding.

>

> Infant or young child: The area is cleansed with antiseptic and

> punctured with a sharp needle or a lancet. The blood may be collected in

> a pipette (small glass tube), on a slide, onto a test strip, or into a

> small container. Cotton or a bandage may be applied to the puncture site

> if there is any continued bleeding.

>

> How to prepare for the test: There are no food or fluid restrictions.

> The physical and psychological preparation you can provide for this or

> any test or procedure depends on your child's age, interests, previous

> experience, and level of trust.

>

> How the test will feel: When the needle is inserted to draw blood, some

> people feel moderate pain, while others feel only a prick or stinging

> sensation. Afterward, there may be some throbbing.

>

> What the risks are: excessive bleeding fainting or feeling lightheaded

> hematoma (blood accumulating under the skin) infection (a slight risk

> any time the skin is broken) multiple punctures to locate veins

>

> Why the test is performed: The test is most commonly performed for

> suspected rheumatologic disorders. The erythrocyte sedimentation rate

> (ESR) can be used to monitor inflammatory or malignant disease,

> rheumatic fever, and acute myocardial infarction. Although it is a

> screening test (not considered diagnostic for any particular disorder),

> it is useful in detecting and monitoring tuberculosis, tissue necrosis

> (tissue death),

> connective tissue disease, or an otherwise unsuspected disease in which

> symptoms are vague or physical findings are minimal.

>

>

> What abnormal results mean:

> Elevated values occur with: kidney disease pregnancy rheumatic fever

> rheumatoid arthritis severe anemia

> syphilis systemic lupus erythematosus thyroid disease tuberculosis

>

> Markedly elevated values occur with: giant cell (temporal, cranial)

> arteritis multiple myeloma macroglobulinemia - primary

> hyperfibrinogenemia (elevated fibrinogen levels in the blood)

> necrotizing vasculitis polymyalgia rheumatica

>

> Additional conditions that may affect test results:

> >

> > allergic vasculitis

> > atrial myxoma; left

> > atrial myxoma; right

> > autoimmune hepatitis

> > endometritis

> > eosinophilic fasciitis

> > erysipelas

> > juvenile rheumatoid arthritis

> > Legionnaire's disease

> > osteomyelitis

> > pelvic inflammatory disease (PID)

> > pericarditis; post-MI

> > retroperitoneal fibrosis

> > skin lesion of blastomycosis

> > subacute thyroiditis

> > systemic sclerosis (scleroderma)

>

> Cost: The estimated cost is $11.

>

> Special considerations: Veins and arteries vary in size from one patient

> to another and from one side of the body to the other. Obtaining a blood

> sample from some people may be more difficult than from others.

>

> _____

>

>

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Hi there

Apparently there is an excellent new anti-inflamatory available in the

states, I am seeing my doc on Thursday and will get the name of it. I'm

going to try to find someone here in Joburg to buy it for me when they go

over there as it won't be available here for at least two years.

Some parents here have managed to get hold of it somehow, and they all

report excellent results and much less stomach pain etc.

So! When I do manage to get hold of it I'll report back.

I was also wondering if anyone could maybe share their experience with me re

swelling, has been on methatrexate for three months now and still has

bad swelling continuously in her wrists and a swelling at the back of her

neck. Do these swellings go down, or do they remain fairly much like that

most of the time?

I have a really great relationship with my pharmacist and she is also new to

JRA! It's great because she's been getting involved and checking out all

sorts of medication and doses for me to talk with my doctor about.

Something that struck home the other day while reading an e-mail is that we

shouldn't let them hear or think that we feel sorry for them. Kids can be

such natural little fighters and with us parents behind them we can do a lot

together. I've seen so many parents and kids overcome so many obstacles in

the last three months throught this list, I reckon we all can take two

seconds to pat ourselves on the back - it is a tough road!

thanks

Ady Ogilvie

aogilvie@...

> SED rate info/ESR blood test

> > Alternative names: erythrocyte sedimentation rate; sed rate;

> > sedimentation rate

> >

> > Normal values: (Westergren method*)

> > Adults: Men under 50 years old: less than 15 mm/hr.

> > > Men over 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > > Women under 50 years old: less than 20 mm/hr.

> > > Women over 50 years old: less than 30 mm/hr.

> >

> > Pediatric: Newborn: 0 to 2 mm/hr.

> > > Neonatal to puberty: 3 to 13 mm/hr.

> >

> > Note: mm/hr. = millimeters per hour Other methods will have differing

> > values.

> >

> > Definition: A nonspecific screening test for various inflammatory

> > diseases. The test measures the distance (in millimeters) that red blood

> > cells settle in unclotted blood toward the bottom of a specially marked

> > test tube in 1 hour.

> >

> > How the test is performed: Adult or child: Blood is drawn from a vein

> > (venipuncture), usually from the inside of the elbow or the back of the

> > hand. The puncture site is cleaned with antiseptic, and a tourniquet (an

> > elastic band) or blood pressure cuff is placed around the upper arm to

> > apply pressure and restrict blood flow through the vein. This causes

> > veins below the tourniquet to distend (fill with blood). A needle is

> > inserted into the vein, and the blood is collected in an air-tight vial

> > or a syringe. During the procedure, the tourniquet is removed to restore

> > circulation. Once the blood has been collected, the needle is removed,

> > and the puncture site is covered to stop any bleeding.

> >

> > Infant or young child: The area is cleansed with antiseptic and

> > punctured with a sharp needle or a lancet. The blood may be collected in

> > a pipette (small glass tube), on a slide, onto a test strip, or into a

> > small container. Cotton or a bandage may be applied to the puncture site

> > if there is any continued bleeding.

> >

> > How to prepare for the test: There are no food or fluid restrictions.

> > The physical and psychological preparation you can provide for this or

> > any test or procedure depends on your child's age, interests, previous

> > experience, and level of trust.

> >

> > How the test will feel: When the needle is inserted to draw blood, some

> > people feel moderate pain, while others feel only a prick or stinging

> > sensation. Afterward, there may be some throbbing.

> >

> > What the risks are: excessive bleeding fainting or feeling lightheaded

> > hematoma (blood accumulating under the skin) infection (a slight risk

> > any time the skin is broken) multiple punctures to locate veins

> >

> > Why the test is performed: The test is most commonly performed for

> > suspected rheumatologic disorders. The erythrocyte sedimentation rate

> > (ESR) can be used to monitor inflammatory or malignant disease,

> > rheumatic fever, and acute myocardial infarction. Although it is a

> > screening test (not considered diagnostic for any particular disorder),

> > it is useful in detecting and monitoring tuberculosis, tissue necrosis

> > (tissue death),

> > connective tissue disease, or an otherwise unsuspected disease in which

> > symptoms are vague or physical findings are minimal.

> >

> >

> > What abnormal results mean:

> > Elevated values occur with: kidney disease pregnancy rheumatic fever

> > rheumatoid arthritis severe anemia

> > syphilis systemic lupus erythematosus thyroid disease tuberculosis

> >

> > Markedly elevated values occur with: giant cell (temporal, cranial)

> > arteritis multiple myeloma macroglobulinemia - primary

> > hyperfibrinogenemia (elevated fibrinogen levels in the blood)

> > necrotizing vasculitis polymyalgia rheumatica

> >

> > Additional conditions that may affect test results:

> > >

> > > allergic vasculitis

> > > atrial myxoma; left

> > > atrial myxoma; right

> > > autoimmune hepatitis

> > > endometritis

> > > eosinophilic fasciitis

> > > erysipelas

> > > juvenile rheumatoid arthritis

> > > Legionnaire's disease

> > > osteomyelitis

> > > pelvic inflammatory disease (PID)

> > > pericarditis; post-MI

> > > retroperitoneal fibrosis

> > > skin lesion of blastomycosis

> > > subacute thyroiditis

> > > systemic sclerosis (scleroderma)

> >

> > Cost: The estimated cost is $11.

> >

> > Special considerations: Veins and arteries vary in size from one patient

> > to another and from one side of the body to the other. Obtaining a blood

> > sample from some people may be more difficult than from others.

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

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Hi Ady,

The swelling tends to go down when the arthritis is being controlled

well enough. Sometimes during flare ups Josh has visible inflammation

and the area around the joints gets red and feels hot to touch. When

it's all under control, he has little or no swelling. I still have

questions regarding whether or not inflammation goes hand in hand with

joint deterioration. Some of the recent research I've read makes me

think that that even the doctors don't know for sure, as sometimes

people with long term inflammation/high SED rates are surprisingly still

able to preserve their joint functions, due to the meds they take, I

guess. I'm also wondering about whether kids with systemic symptoms have

for the most part equal, greater or lesser joint destruction than those

with poly or pauici JRA. I guess that would be too hard to figure out,

since they may take different meds and too many other factors come into

play.

Take care,

Georgina

> From: Adrienne Ogilvie <aogilvie@...>

>

> Hi there

>

> Apparently there is an excellent new anti-inflamatory available in the

> states, I am seeing my doc on Thursday and will get the name of it. I'm

> going to try to find someone here in Joburg to buy it for me when they go

> over there as it won't be available here for at least two years.

>

> Some parents here have managed to get hold of it somehow, and they all

> report excellent results and much less stomach pain etc.

>

> So! When I do manage to get hold of it I'll report back.

>

> I was also wondering if anyone could maybe share their experience with me re

> swelling, has been on methatrexate for three months now and still has

> bad swelling continuously in her wrists and a swelling at the back of her

> neck. Do these swellings go down, or do they remain fairly much like that

> most of the time?

>

> I have a really great relationship with my pharmacist and she is also new to

> JRA! It's great because she's been getting involved and checking out all

> sorts of medication and doses for me to talk with my doctor about.

>

> Something that struck home the other day while reading an e-mail is that we

> shouldn't let them hear or think that we feel sorry for them. Kids can be

> such natural little fighters and with us parents behind them we can do a lot

> together. I've seen so many parents and kids overcome so many obstacles in

> the last three months throught this list, I reckon we all can take two

> seconds to pat ourselves on the back - it is a tough road!

>

> thanks

> Ady Ogilvie

> aogilvie@...

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Ursula

melissas SED rate was 6 on mar 4 00 and it was 3 on mar 22 00

but the normal rate here is 0 to 20 range

i get copies of everything on melissa

i am waiting for the HLA-B27 and lyme titer to come back

Robbin

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Georgina

your right even though melissas was in normal range her joints were still

swollen

and she was in a full blown flare up hers was 6 the first time and 3 the next

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Hi,

My son gets his SED rate checked at every blood drawing, which he

normally has done once a month. In the five years since his JRA was

diagnosed he has never had it come back within the normal range. Should

be between 0 and 20. It started out in the 120's. The lowest he ever had

was a 28. Most recent one was 34. They use it as a basic tool to assess

the amount of inflammation going on in the body. It's not an exact

measurement and other unrelated things can often affect the results of

the ESR. I don't think exercise affects the SED rate in a direct way,

though. When your daughter's SED rate comes back within the normal

range, that's a good thing :)

Take care,

Georgina

Ursula Holleman wrote:

>

> Macey has had several SED rates run over the last two years. Of the 4-5

> done only 1 was elevated. Should her SED rate be constantly elevated?

> Would the 2 days a week of both PT and OT (4 sessions total) help to lower

> the rate?

>

> Ursula Holleman

> Macey and 's mom

> http://home.att.net/~maceyh

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Iread an article recently that said that a sed rate is not a good measure for

children with poly or Pauci JRA. That it is however a very valuable tool with

Systemic. Don't know why this is ... if I can locate the article on the web

I'll pass it on ..... Kris

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on 6/18/00 4:05 PM, Ken Lassesen at KenL@... wrote:

> " One thing that is kind of interesting that most doctors

> probably aren't aware of, there's one way you can tell if your patient has

a

> hypercoaguable state is if their sed rate is low. Probably less than 5 or

6.

> "

> -Dr. Donovan J.

> http://abcjb.com/fm/media/cfs_radio_program__august_1st.htm

<http://abcjb.com/fm/media/cfs_radio_program__august_1st.htm>

[Patti:] Dr. is my beloved " doctor in the desert " that I spoke of

in such glowing terms in the past. He is a most amazing person. The

kindest, most understanding, knowledgeable and caring doctor I've ever met

(and terribly overworked as well).

Important note (warning - triple negative ahead): just because you don't

have a low sed rate doesn't mean that you don't have a hypercoag problem.

If you do have low sed rate, then there's an excellent chance (like 99%)

that you are hypercoag, but you can still have a severe hypercoag problem

and have a normal sed rate. I have a very normal sed rate, and I almost

didn't get the hypercoag panel done because of this fact. But got hypercoag

panel (from HEMEX) and showed up as extremely hypercoag (Berg even called my

doc twice to make sure I was on heparin, he said he was shocked that I

hadn't had a stroke or a TIA yet). Blood thinned down now and I may not

need heparin anymore (I hope, those injections are very unpleasant). (using

curcumin, aspirin, vit E etc - no bromelain because I'm allergic to it). I

showed 3 genetic defects that promote hypercoag.

I *think* the way your blood looks when its drawn is a good clue (would be

nice if other people who have had the hypercoag test could weigh in on

this). My blood has always been extra thick and syrupy and had foamy

bubbles (asked docs about it and they stupidly say - oh some people are just

like that, nothing to worry about - idiots!). Now my blood comes out very

liquid and no foam. PTT test normal, so must be in the correct coag range

now. Also, difficulty in drawing blood is not necessarily a clue. Just

because you're not difficult to draw, doesn't mean you are not hypercoag.

Even though my blood was very syrupy, I have always been a phlebotomist's

dream and yet very hypercoag.

After reading all the info on Berg's site and other articles about hypercoag

on PubMed, I believe that most strokes are very predictable and very

avoidable.

I finally got one of my docs to admit that I do have a hypercoag problem,

but he told me to do nothing about it! He said that I should *JUST WAIT*

until I get a stroke or blood clot and *ONLY THEN* would he recommend

treatment!!! (did you see my post on how the death rate goes down when

doctors go on strike? - *most* of them are complete idiots!)

Patti

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Could be many other factors involved; sed rate one of the most common lab

tests done by physicians. Steve B.

sed rates

>

> I got my GP to do some generalized blood work on me. He also did a

> sed rate, although not for coagulation purposes. It came back 29!! I

> had had some blood work done a year ago, and went and looked that up.

> Then the sed was 4. My doctor said that the 29 indicated an

> infection. I did have a cold at the time. Does anyone know, does a

> sed rate of 29, providing there is no error, definatly indicate that

> I am not coagualating right now, or are there other factors involved?

>

> Matt

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

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A low SED strongly implies coagulation, a high SED strongly implies an active

infection (but does NOT imply no coagulation, the infection over-rides the

coagulation effect).

Traditionally lower than normal SED values were ignored (which is what happen

with Cheney and 's with the original Lake Tahoe outbreak - almost all

patients had low SED (according to Osler's Web) - but no one knew what that

meant!; some 20 years later, we now are starting to realize what this

implies...

M Lassesen, M.S.

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From: Matt Hoppe

I got my GP to do some generalized blood work on me. He also did a

sed rate, although not for coagulation purposes. It came back 29!! I

had had some blood work done a year ago, and went and looked that up.

Then the sed was 4. My doctor said that the 29 indicated an

infection. I did have a cold at the time. Does anyone know, does a

sed rate of 29, providing there is no error, definatly indicate that

I am not coagualating right now, or are there other factors involved?

Matt

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Dear , I don't know if I can answer your question as you inteded

but in the early years of course, my sed rate was up to almost 200.

Over the years I'm not sure what it was but I would think normal

because I didn't have to take any dmard medications and only

naprosin. But I did have Stills ongoing just not raging out of

control. Since being on the sulfasalazine this past year I am still

having problems with pain and overuse to the damaged areas, but also

with inflimation in my chest internally. My last visit my set rate

was 15, which I think is very good but my doctor said if I start

showing more signes of inflamation he would like to discuss one of

the newer dmards. So in retrospect, my sed rates do flucuate over

the years but even when low there was a possability of damage to

joints. I hope any of this helped, feel better soon, Patty

> Hello friends,

> I was just wondering if anyone experiences very low white count

like myself

> when their blood work comes back. For some reason, my white cells

drop in

> the 2.5 range at times, and it is then that I get ill and I don't

feel well,

> but when they go way up, I am in a " flare " .

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I've got a question.

A few weeks back I ended up in the ER because I could no longer walk. My right

knee was in excruciating pain. The only thing that showed abnormal after the

x-ray and blood work was an elevated sed rate. Normal is 20 and mine was 46.

3 weeks after that ER visit I was back at my LLMD, feeling much better. he

wanted to recheck my sed rate levels and make sure they are going down. He

called me a few days later asking if I was in alot of pain and how I was

feeling. I felt I was on an upswing...but we was very concerned that my sed

rate had risen to over 70.

I asked what he thought was going on and he said it might be an acure babesia

flare....or maybe a connective tissue disorder. But I have been tested twice a

year for over 6 years for RA, Lupus, etc...

So I asked if it was not either of those what it could be...and he said " lets

just take this one step at a time. "

So of course I went online to see what else it could be!

There was one study where they had found that highly elevated sed rates

(asymptomatic) found that a high percentage had ankylosing spondylitis.

This rang a bell with me because 3 years ago in my spinal MRI every single

vertibrae set had " multi level mild spondylosis " ....this research said that to

monitor ankylosing spondylitis it should be watched over several years...it has

been 3 years since that last MRI...so I am thinking of asking him to do one.

Do any of you have ankylosing spondylitis in your spine?

There were several other things I found in my MRI reports from 3 years ago,

after reading them myself,,,,(the doctor said it was " Normal " )...it said there

was some kind of " artifact " in the spinal column but it was not compressing any

nerves.

My EMG reports showed delay/diminished reflexes and a completely absent H tibial

reflex...whatever that is.

In isolation an individual doc may not think anything of those comments...but I

am wondering if someone would connect the dots of all these various issues if

would mean something??

Oh...the MRI of my brain also said that something was causing my pituitary gland

to be displaced, but was deemed to be " within normal limits " ...but via

SYMPTOMS...all my hormones have been out of what for over 7 years...including 6

miscarriages, Lyme DX, and a recent dx of being post menopausal....at 36 years

old (last year!) And since the pituitary gland is the main hormone

regulator...maybe that should be looked at a little closer. Also my test for

cushings disease had come back 2 points high into the " positive range " after a

24 hour urine collection....but they did a recent cortisol blood test that

seemed " normal " ...are those the same kind of tests?

Anyone have any ideas of what could be causing the elevated sed rates?

Thanks,

Dawn

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> > Do any of you have ankylosing spondylitis in your spine?

Sally,

I've not seen " ankylosing " in my MRI, CT or X-rays, but the

spondylitis is surely present in all of them-- meaning arthritis. At

38, I just had my 2nd arthritis related surgery. (I'm almost 7 years

post Lyme dx)

The question I'm sure I'll never have answered is: would the

arthritis have happened without Lyme. At 20 I was told I'd probably

get arthritis at a young age (based only on the hypermobility of my

joints), but for all I know I could have been infected way back then.

The complete lack of a reflex sounds like a pinched nerve, but they

don't operate on them unless there are serious symptoms that aren't

helped by non-aggressive means (P.T., steroids, NSAID's, etc.)

unless there is also stenosis (impingement of the spinal canal). I

have multi-level spondylitits and multi-level stenosis, but without

more serious symptoms, they just worked on the level that was

causing severe problems.

I'm also going through early menopause, not quite to the full lack

of menses yet, but lots of symptoms since I was about 31.

I'd recommend getting copies of all your medical records, but it

sounds like you already have.

Know you're definitely not alone, and that we'll pray for you, too.

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