Re: Diflucan for Lyme

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 4:54:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jessiemacmillan@... writes:

Kat asked if anyone else is taking Diflucan for Lyme. I am. My doctor

came back from the ILADS conference talking about it. A lightbulb went

off in my head. I've been on Diflucan for a month at a time twice in

the past and I always started to feel much better a couple of weeks

into it. I always thought I was loaded with yeast, but now I think it

was also helping with Lyme.

I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

Buhner's herbal protocol. I haven't been on the Diflucan a month yet,

so I can't report on whether it seems to be working. I haven't Herxed

either.

Jessie

Hi Jessie !

Thanks so much for posting that !!! My llmd went to the conference also !

Anyway ...I guess we'll find out huh ? I am scared because I have very bad

herx's ...I have taken two doses only and already my skin is so hot and so

painful. That is how it usually starts for me....burning sensation all over

....all

of my senses become really strong .taste, smell etc ...but all of my lyme

symptoms go crazy ...they get so much worse ....I know its fast ....and I

shouldn't have it yet ..but the one really bad one came after 4 days of a new

med.

I have made up my mind though Jess ....I am STICKING with this ...if I herx

....I do ..she told me today she doesn't know of anyone who died from one so

....with that thought in mind ..I am going to see this diflucan through ! Thank

you so much for posting !!! Keep me posted ok ? Thanks again !!!! So nice of

you ! Kat

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 5:04:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

My Dr who was a speaker at the conference also suggested Diflucan as a

treatment for killing Bb. When we finish treating babesia she is going

to put me on it, kill two birds with one stone!

Lizzie ...Dr E told me today that it will kill anything and everything ...we

talked about the different strains of lyme ...and she said that Diflucn

would hit em all very hard ...so we shall see right ? The best part is not

having

to worry about the yeast !!! She said to keep with the milk thistle and

probiotics ...in my case the miralax for the Irritable bowel syndrome ....but I

am excited to see what happens ...and grateful not to have to take the doxy

...it really was burning my stomach up ! Kat

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 5:06:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bluesky@... writes:

He also told me to do the Buhner protocol

can someone explain this to me ...she didn't say anything about it ...thanks

in advance ! k

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin and

its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take the

Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this disease.

I am taking both ! and she said keep taking the nystatin along with the

diflucan ! so have at it ! ha !

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 7:36:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tschreckengast@... writes:

Resveratrol - 20 mg. 3 x daily

Andrographis - 800 mg. 3 x daily

Sarsparilla - 850 mg. 3 x daily

Astragalus - 470 mg. 2 x daily (for later stage Lyme, it sounds like we

shouldn't take high doses of this)

I am taking the cats claw ..is all the rest of this health food store stuff

and should I ask my llmd before I start it ...of course I should ! Smack me

for even saying that ! Good grief !

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 9:02:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fancy1413@... writes:

Her acne after 3 days is improving alot she said. It

affects folks differently apparently--

Maybe you could call them and see what the dr says.

Rose Marie

HI again Rose ..

Do they use Diflucan for acne ? All of a sudden my daughters face is

breaking out ..shes 23 ! I think she leans on her chin during classes

.....probably

sleeping ...hahaa ..just kidding ....but she is really broken out on the lower

sides of her jaw ....where you would put your hand if you leaned on it

.....thanks in advance ! Kat

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 9:06:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fancy1413@... writes:

I also am taking the Nystatin (4)-maintance dose and the Diflucan

(1) a day. From what I understand the Nystatin is specifically for

intestinal yeast and the Diflucan is for systemic yeast.

I still cannot believe I took 2 of them on the first day ! Good grief !!!

QUICK ..get the new alzheimers stuff for me ! SHE TOLD ME TO START WITH 1/2

.....what the heck was I thinking ...or not thinking ? Ah well ...its not going

to kill me but its probably why I feel lousy tonight !

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 9:24:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

Yesterday I took my second dose of the day of cats claw and

Artemisinin, 5 minutes later I forgot I took it and took another dose

of both, needless to say my stomach was a mess. Good grief!!

I think we all need baby sitters ! ha !

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>

> Kat asked if anyone else is taking Diflucan for Lyme. I am. My doctor

> came back from the ILADS conference talking about it. A lightbulb went

> off in my head. I've been on Diflucan for a month at a time twice in

> the past and I always started to feel much better a couple of weeks

> into it. I always thought I was loaded with yeast, but now I think it

> was also helping with Lyme.

>

> I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> Buhner's herbal protocol. I haven't been on the Diflucan a month yet,

> so I can't report on whether it seems to be working. I haven't Herxed

> either.

>

> Jessie

>

My Dr who was a speaker at the conference also suggested Diflucan as a

treatment for killing Bb. When we finish treating babesia she is going

to put me on it, kill two birds with one stone!

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Jessie MacMillan wrote:

> I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> Buhner's herbal protocol.

So *that's* why my doctor had me take only 50 mg of the diflucan.

He also told me to do the Buhner protocol. But I seemed to have a bit of a

reaction to the sassafras and the angiographis (sp?) and possibly the

resveratrol. So I stopped.

Did you have any uncomfortable reactions?

At least two of them (maybe all 3? ..i can't remember now) seemed to make my

pulse stronger and give me a stressed feeling, like pressure or anxiety in

my body. He said to stop for about four days then start again at half dose.

That was two months ago and I just tried 1/2 capsule of the sassafras.

Didn't have the immediate reaction as I did the first time. But then I felt

ill from some foods I ate yesterday, I think, and decided not to take

anymore today.

I'd really like to know if anyone else is doing that protocol and having any

positive results or uncomfortable reactions.

Thanks,

Deanna

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Deanna...I started out on small amounts of herbs in the Buhner protocol, and

worked my way up to the 50% mark, where I think I'll stay for 6 months. I think

I began the protocol 2 1/2 weeks ago. I'm currently taking:

Cat's Claw - 1000 mg. 3 x daily

Resveratrol - 20 mg. 3 x daily

Andrographis - 800 mg. 3 x daily

Sarsparilla - 850 mg. 3 x daily

Astragalus - 470 mg. 2 x daily (for later stage Lyme, it sounds like we

shouldn't take high doses of this)

Plus, I'm also taking 2000 mg. Ceftin daily, and 300 mg. Doxy daily. Yes

indeed, I've had major herx's from the abx and the core protocol. I also have

RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome), which was starting to go into remission, but the

core protocol is reactivating it. I can live with that, because I definitely

believe I'm going to feel much better when I come out the other side of this

treatment. The core protocol is supposed to cross the blood-brain barrier, and

kill these rotten spirochetes wherever they hide! The core protocol is supposed

to work well alongside abx. I'm on an offensive to wipe out this Lyme mess,

hopefully once and for all! One day at a time...Tom

[ ] Re: Diflucan for Lyme

Jessie MacMillan wrote:

> I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> Buhner's herbal protocol.

So *that's* why my doctor had me take only 50 mg of the diflucan.

He also told me to do the Buhner protocol. But I seemed to have a bit of a

reaction to the sassafras and the angiographis (sp?) and possibly the

resveratrol. So I stopped.

Did you have any uncomfortable reactions?

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>

>

> In a message dated 11/29/2005 4:54:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> jessiemacmillan@y... writes:

>

> Kat asked if anyone else is taking Diflucan for Lyme. I am. My doctor

> came back from the ILADS conference talking about it. A lightbulb went

> off in my head. I've been on Diflucan for a month at a time twice in

> the past and I always started to feel much better a couple of weeks

> into it. I always thought I was loaded with yeast, but now I think it

> was also helping with Lyme.

>

> I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> Buhner's herbal protocol. I haven't been on the Diflucan a month yet,

> so I can't report on whether it seems to be working. I haven't Herxed

> either.

>

> Jessie

>

>

>

> Hi Jessie !

> Thanks so much for posting that !!! My llmd went to the conference

also !

> Anyway ...I guess we'll find out huh ? I am scared because I have

very bad

> herx's ...I have taken two doses only and already my skin is so hot

and so

> painful. That is how it usually starts for me....burning sensation

all over ...all

> of my senses become really strong .taste, smell etc ...but all of

my lyme

> symptoms go crazy ...they get so much worse ....I know its fast

.....and I

> shouldn't have it yet ..but the one really bad one came after 4 days

of a new med.

> I have made up my mind though Jess ....I am STICKING with this

....if I herx

> ...I do ..she told me today she doesn't know of anyone who died

from one so

> ...with that thought in mind ..I am going to see this diflucan

through ! Thank

> you so much for posting !!! Keep me posted ok ? Thanks again !!!!

So nice of

> you ! Kat

>

>

>

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 10:25:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tschreckengast@... writes:

online at a store that's been in business for years, and has great prices.

Do tell ? The store name ? Thanks ;-) Kat

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 10:19:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tschreckengast@... writes:

Maybe someone else can better explain this, but I think the best way to

understand the 'core protocol' is to read the book:

I would love to read the book ..but my concentration level is about a 2

right now ...I have such a hard time concentrating on anything ....even the

grocery store flyer seems to confuse me these days ! Good grief that is awful

.....but its true ....

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Maybe someone else can better explain this, but I think the best way to

understand the 'core protocol' is to read the book:

'Healing Lyme' by Harrod Buhner

Buhner gives in depth detail of each supplement / herb used for Lyme and it's

various ailments. The book is easy to read and very well designed. There are

summaries throughout for the various treatments. These supplements are

powerful, and the patient needs to understand the possible drug interactions,

etc. - all are clearly presented in the book...Tom

Re: [ ] Re: Diflucan for Lyme

In a message dated 11/29/2005 5:06:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bluesky@...<mailto:bluesky@...> writes:

He also told me to do the Buhner protocol

can someone explain this to me ...she didn't say anything about it ...thanks

in advance ! k

[Guest guest]

Tom,

Hang tough. You will feel much better when you come out the other

side!

Be well,

>

> > I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> > Buhner's herbal protocol.

>

>

> So *that's* why my doctor had me take only 50 mg of the diflucan.

>

> He also told me to do the Buhner protocol. But I seemed to have

a bit of a

> reaction to the sassafras and the angiographis (sp?) and

possibly the

> resveratrol. So I stopped.

>

> Did you have any uncomfortable reactions?

>

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This was interesting to me as I'd taken Doxy, with Nystatin (for

yeast). THen I felt that I could possibly have systemic and our LLMD

gave me the Rx for the Diflucan. So i'm taking that plus the Ceftin-

today again the ball of my foot bothered, as did my back and neck-

believe this plus emotional roller coaster is my herx, but I can't

seem to find the rhythm of a specific number of days to it. Hope I'm

killing the little buggers. I am feeling better physically and

emotionally tho.

Is the info about Diflucan written on the Ilads site? I'd love to

see what is said about it. Thanks much

Rose Marie

> >

> > Kat asked if anyone else is taking Diflucan for Lyme. I am. My

doctor

> > came back from the ILADS conference talking about it. A

lightbulb went

> > off in my head. I've been on Diflucan for a month at a time

twice in

> > the past and I always started to feel much better a couple of

weeks

> > into it. I always thought I was loaded with yeast, but now I

think it

> > was also helping with Lyme.

> >

> > I'm taking 50 mg a day. I'm not taking any abx. I am doing

> > Buhner's herbal protocol. I haven't been on the Diflucan a month

yet,

> > so I can't report on whether it seems to be working. I haven't

Herxed

> > either.

> >

> > Jessie

> >

> My Dr who was a speaker at the conference also suggested Diflucan

as a

> treatment for killing Bb. When we finish treating babesia she is

going

> to put me on it, kill two birds with one stone!

>

[Guest guest]

Everything in the core protocol is available at health food stores (some of the

items might be difficult to find at some health food stores) - I buy mine online

at a store that's been in business for years, and has great prices.

Re: [ ] Diflucan for Lyme

In a message dated 11/29/2005 7:36:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tschreckengast@...<mailto:tschreckengast@...> writes:

Resveratrol - 20 mg. 3 x daily

Andrographis - 800 mg. 3 x daily

Sarsparilla - 850 mg. 3 x daily

Astragalus - 470 mg. 2 x daily (for later stage Lyme, it sounds like we

shouldn't take high doses of this)

I am taking the cats claw ..is all the rest of this health food store stuff

and should I ask my llmd before I start it ...of course I should ! Smack me

for even saying that ! Good grief !

[Guest guest]

-

When I first took the Diflucan my chest felt a bit tight. It says on

the bottle to take 1 two times a day and I still am only taking the

one in the am. I'm feeling better with this amount, altho I may up

it to see what happens.

When my daughter first took it she had alot of sinus and head

congestion. Her acne after 3 days is improving alot she said. It

affects folks differently apparently--

Maybe you could call them and see what the dr says.

Rose Marie

In , " " <betneal@y...> wrote:

>

>]

> >

> Makes me wonder why I have to wait to take Diflucan? I actually

have a

> full prescription. Maybe it would be wise to wait until my next

LLMD

> visit in three weeks, but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin

and

> its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take the

> Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this disease.

>

[Guest guest]

I also am taking the Nystatin (4)-maintance dose and the Diflucan

(1) a day. From what I understand the Nystatin is specifically for

intestinal yeast and the Diflucan is for systemic yeast.

I worried about this also, but then read that some others were

taking both. I am on the Ceftin, so don't want the intestinal yeast.

Am also taking Probiotics and digestive enzymes too.

Rose Marie

>

>

> In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> betneal@y... writes:

>

> but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin and

> its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take

the

> Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this

disease.

>

>

>

>

> I am taking both ! and she said keep taking the nystatin along

with the

> diflucan ! so have at it ! ha !

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >]

> > >

> > Makes me wonder why I have to wait to take Diflucan? I actually

> have a

> > full prescription. Maybe it would be wise to wait until my next

> LLMD

> > visit in three weeks, but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin

> and

> > its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take the

> > Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this disease.

> >

>

GREAT idea! Why didn't I think of that?? I will call tomorrow. I will

let you know what she suggests. THANKS

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>

>

> In a message dated 11/29/2005 9:06:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> fancy1413@y... writes:

>

> I also am taking the Nystatin (4)-maintance dose and the Diflucan

> (1) a day. From what I understand the Nystatin is specifically for

> intestinal yeast and the Diflucan is for systemic yeast.

>

>

>

> I still cannot believe I took 2 of them on the first day ! Good

grief !!!

> QUICK ..get the new alzheimers stuff for me ! SHE TOLD ME TO START

WITH 1/2

> ....what the heck was I thinking ...or not thinking ? Ah well

....its not going

> to kill me but its probably why I feel lousy tonight !

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:18:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > betneal@y... writes:

> >

> > but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin and

> > its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take

> the

> > Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this

> disease.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I am taking both ! and she said keep taking the nystatin along

> with the

> > diflucan ! so have at it ! ha !

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding Diflucan is for Candidia. I understand Diflucan

(Fluconazole) is an anti-fungal. Like Monistat. Same family much stronger and

effective.

From what I understand It is not an Abx.

It is as hard on your bodies as Abx and is why many LLMDs wait to put you on it

prefering to use herbals.

I mean it is real hard on the Liver, Kidneys, Gallbladder so on. But it is for

yeast not an the Infection.

It works on Candidia. . Taken daily while taking Abx it works as profolactic

to prevent getting Candidia.

If LLMDs are attending conferences and prescribing it, this is a good thing. It

shows to me that they are open and willing to accept the dangers along with the

good.

Danger meaning how hard it is on the system. This is my opinion but taking high

doses of Abx is dangerous and I am willing to take them and I am willing to take

the risk with Diflucan also.

For me there is nothing worse than getting Candidia and being told to take more

herbals. While I continue to slam my body with high doses of Abx.

Thanks for this Forum.

Millie

<betneal@...> wrote:

> >

> >]

> > >

> > Makes me wonder why I have to wait to take Diflucan? I actually

> have a

> > full prescription. Maybe it would be wise to wait until my next

> LLMD

> > visit in three weeks, but I have a yeast issue, am taking nystatin

> and

> > its not working! Boy, I sure am tempted to drop the nystat take the

> > Diflu. Really tempted, I am ready to wage full war on this disease.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The store is HiLife - they also have a catalog. You can order via phone or

online:

http://store./hilife-vitamins/<http://store./hilife-vitamins/>

Re: [ ] Diflucan for Lyme

In a message dated 11/29/2005 10:25:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tschreckengast@...<mailto:tschreckengast@...> writes:

online at a store that's been in business for years, and has great prices.

Do tell ? The store name ? Thanks ;-) Kat