Why is Water so good for Lyme patients?

[Guest guest]

I know I always feel much better when I drink about 100oz of water per

day. I was wondering if anyone know why drinking Water helps with the

Lyme? I know it hydrates but it also seems to give me energy? ? ?

Be well,

[Guest guest]

:

I am not a dr., but H20 is what the body is mostly made up of, and it hydrates

every cell that we have, it also puts and circulates oxygen through the cells,

which Lyme hates and can't survive very well in. I hope that may help answer

you question. If you look on-line about how H20 helps and energizes the body

you will be given a wealth of knowledge.

Blessings,

DonnaLee

McGillycuddy <@...> wrote:

I know I always feel much better when I drink about 100oz of water per

day. I was wondering if anyone know why drinking Water helps with the

Lyme? I know it hydrates but it also seems to give me energy? ? ?

Be well,

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 6:50:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

@... writes:

Thanks for the great information!

I didn't know that it helped to oxygenate our cells. That is GREAT

news. I'm going to go down a bottle now to get some oxygen into my

Hey Kev ..there is new water out there ...its CALLED O2GO !! GET it ??? You

can get all of your oxygen and water in one nice big ole huge bottle of water

!!! It even comes in flavors ! I hate it !!! she giggles !!!

My doc gave me lemon drops to put in my water ...if you want I can send them

to you for your wife ? They are awful but they sure make the room smell nice

if you put it on your lightbulbs ! OK ..I need a stretch ! I have sat too

long ! K

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:53:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fancy1413@... writes:

my right lower

back and sometimes the left too begins to ache

Hi Rose !

That is where you will feel kidney pain ..in your lower back ...are your

kidneys alright ? Have you ever had a 24 hour urine test ? Any kidney problems

in the family ? Polycystic kidney or anything like that ? I am certain I drink

less water than anyone here ...but it doesn't hurt my back ..it just doesn't

help the LYME ! I know that I HAVE to drink it and I am ....but you

shouldn't have kidney pain .....? Maybe its just muscle pain ? Do you exercise

? Too

much maybe ? I don't want to scare you ...just a heads up that's all

...mention it to the doc next time ...K

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In a message dated 11/29/2005 6:20:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

@... writes:

You must think I'm the anti-Kat :-)

HYSTERICAL !!! You are so funny ! AND yes ...the ANTIKAT !!! as she grins

and lights a newport ! ;-) Nah ...I do smoke outside and its getting cold so I

have really cut down .....but ..I have to go do some exercise now ...like run

3 miles oh ...and drink a gallon of water ! I am impressed though ...that

YOU KNOW MEN ARE FROM MARS !! ;-) Your wife has taught you well ! Give her a

big hug ! Kat

[Guest guest]

Kat,

:-)

I have been known as a smart ass since I was in 4th grade and my

teacher was screaming at us rambunctious kids with tears running

down her face; she screamed " don't you kids listen to me " so I had

to stand up and ask her " what I didn't hear you " . Thrown out of the

class as quick as a whip and from then on I have known my true

calling ;-> What a wise ass...

OK, so far you and I seem to have a Men are from Mars and Women are

from Venus relationship. I have tried to get you to quit smoking,

to stop eating sugars and simple carbs and I have tried to get you

drink more water. You must think I'm the anti-Kat :-)

It's much like the conversations I have with my wife. Your lucky

I'm used to being ignored (he said with a smile on his face), I said

your lucky I'm used to being ignored.

I know when I was in the toughest parts of my recovery I felt like I

was the " Boy in the bubble " . I had to do all of these crazy things

as well as avoid being around anyone that was sick. Yes I had a

screaming match with my sister one time because she was sick and I

wouldn't come over for a family event. You have to get your body as

healthy as possible to speed up your recovery.

And here is the kick in the ass, your really going to luv me now.

You should start an exercise program that is appropriate for your

condition. If you can, start an aerobic exercise routing. This

will oxygenate your body and kill the Lyme. It will also strengthen

your immune system and your entire body. I know that not everyone

can do an aerobic work out. But if you can it will help with your

recovery. Obviously check with your doctor before starting any

exercise program to be sure it is ok for your condition.

So now how much do you want me to invite me over to go out on the

back porch for a cigerette, shot of JD (oh yeah, you can't drink

either ;-), some Animal crackers and sit around and bs for the rest

of the night.

Trust me before the Lyme I was one of the most care free people you

would ever meet. I just needed to adjust some simple things to feel

better so I could get back to my old self.

You have the most important thing you need to recover. That is a

great sense of humor and a great outlook on life! Keep it up. It's

been a pleasure to read your posts the last couple of days. No one

can change everything in their life. Just try and focus on one

thing at a time to help your recovery!

Enjoy and be well,

>

>

> In a message dated 11/29/2005 12:37:31 P.M. Eastern Standard

Time,

> @M... writes:

>

> I know I always feel much better when I drink about 100oz of

water per

> day. I was wondering if anyone know why drinking Water helps

with the

> Lyme? I know it hydrates but it also seems to give me energy? ? ?

>

> Be well,

>

>

> 100 ounces ? DO YOU LIVE IN THE BATHROOM ??? HA !

>

>

>

> ...you are really a smart ass I think !!! hahahaha !!! YOU

KNOW I HATE

> WATER !!! Energy my butt ..it tastes BLANK ...it looks

BLANK ...it IS BLANK

> ..nothing even IN IT good for you ! You better quit talking to my

doctor !

> ANYWAY , wise guy ...I just got back from seeing her and I talked

to her about

> Dr .....I printed the page and took it to her ....she

already knew and

> was FURIOUS !!! She is so cute when she gets mad ...cracks me

up ..papers go

> flying ...she forgets what shes writing ...funny ...but she had

an office full

> of people waiting so we didn't spend that much time together. She

told me

> that poor Dr is very old BUT he is the only game in

town ..meaning ALL

> OVER the place and if THIS is ALLOWED to happen to HIM ....that we

will never

> get pediatricians to pick lyme as their specialty . She told me

that teaching

> hospitals (I think that is what she meant) are offering thousands

of dollars

> to new young Docs to specalize in LYME and to become LLMDs , BUT

there are no

> TAKERS due to people like Dr Shapiro and the others who don't

believe in

> lyme and are CLUELESS regarding treatment ....these young docs

spend 16 years in

> school ..do you think they are going to specialize in a disease

that will put

> them on the 'crazy list' ? She said NOBODY will go into this

field if THEY

> are allowed to win and take Dr license away. Most don't

want to anyway

> ..because lets face it .....when you cannot actually CURE people

all the time

> , just send them into remissions , it doesn't do much for your

reputation or

> your ego ! (that is my opinion) ..most Docs like to be known for

the people

> that they cure and send on their merry way ..where people like us

don't always

> stay well ....its not right , but certain people blame that on

the DOCTOR

> ....get it ? Did I ever show you the article about my Doctors

husband ? The

> Drulle Fund ....heres the link ..I am sure Robyyn won't mind as

it is in the LDA

> webpage .._Lyme Disease Association_

> (http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/DrulleFund.html) his pic

and bio should be on the front of the page I sent

> ..ok next subject for now .. what do you think of this? ..she took

me off of

> the doxy because it was really hurting my stomach bad ...and put

me on

> diflucan ...she told me it is having good results and that it

works on the yeast

> problem also ..so its kind of like a double whammy ...BUT she did

warn me of

> herxheimer ...has anyone else been prescribed DIFLUCAN for

treatment of lyme ? I

> just thought it was for the side effects (yeast) but she said

no ...and I

> will also stay on my cats claw , I believe in it as does she.

So ...I guess

> that's it for now ...the Dr deal is very unfortunate and

the fallout for

> children with lymes will be worse ! Because in the end if this is

allowed to

> happen , children will no longer have doctors to go to !

Now ....what a

> f^% & ^NG shame !!! SHAME ON DR SHAPIRO and anyone else who does

not BELIEVE in our

> illness !!! ITS SICKENING TO ME ....to actually have people think

you would

> 'fake' an illness like this !!! GO FIGURE ??? You would think WE

live in a 3rd

> world country ! Take care and be well wise guy ...I will drink

some water and

> if I choke on it YOU MY FRIEND are going to feel just AWFUL !!!

LOL ! Kat

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill,

Thanks for the great information!

I didn't know that it helped to oxygenate our cells. That is GREAT

news. I'm going to go down a bottle now to get some oxygen into my

cells.

I also believe that it helps us recover from Lyme by removing the

toxings from our system and helping to keep us gererally healthy. I

have often heard that fresh lemon juice squeezed into water in the

morning and in the evening help to detox our liver. I'd be

interested to hear any other benefits anyone else knows about in the

group. I'm trying to make get my wife to drink more water as she

has recently recovered from Lyme so I'm trying to introduce some

healthy habits into our day. I know Kat, shame on me, but shhh

don't tell my wife ;-)

Thanks and be well,

> I know I always feel much better when I drink about 100oz of

water per

> day. I was wondering if anyone know why drinking Water helps with

the

> Lyme? I know it hydrates but it also seems to give me energy? ? ?

>

> Be well,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes

I've read many, many places that the lemon juice (fresh is best- but

I use concentrate) in water does help your liver. It also helps your

stomach digestion. And yes ALOT of water to flush out everything- I

can tell when either I'm killing yeast or something, my right lower

back and sometimes the left too begins to ache and I have to drink

more and it will go away. It will also bother if I smoke more than 6

cigs in a day or don't drink at least a gallon of water a day. It's

interesting to note that I've had this for years off and on. And

even when I first began to drink green tea this would happen, so I

know that even the tea was doing something right.

Some of the Hepatitis C groups talk about this and I read it other

places also.

Rose Marie

> > I know I always feel much better when I drink about 100oz of

> water per

> > day. I was wondering if anyone know why drinking Water helps

with

> the

> > Lyme? I know it hydrates but it also seems to give me

energy? ? ?

> >

> > Be well,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/1/2005 7:35:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fancy1413@... writes:

Appreciate your concern- this last time the foot, back and emotional

roller coaster lasted 3-4 days and wasn't near as bad as it had been

previous times- it has to be my herx- altho it does't follow an

exact # of days perfectly, but then I've only been specifically

treating for lyme since Sept and have adjusted/ tried different

things too.

Thanks again=I appreciate being able to talk to folks that don't

think I'm out in left field (which is pretty much everyone around

here..LOL)

Take care

Rose Marie

Good Morning Rosie

Thanks for your post !!! You seem like such a sweet girl ! Yup ...I know I

am out in left field most of the time ! ha ! Who cares ? The only reason I

asked because we have polycystic kidney disease in our family and just wanted

to

make sure you knew where they were !!! lol ....when my son was in Iraq last

year he passed two kidney stones in a little tent field hopsital in Fallujia

during a bad time ! They of course had to many critical cases to air lift him

anywhere ...he didn't want to leave anyway ...but they held him up under his

arms (all 6'5 " ) and one medic punched him in the back until he passed out

...woke up and passed it ! GOOD GRIEF ..from that day forward I sent WATER in

every package ...which I sent EVERY DAY ! I think the stress of all that is what

made my lyme come to the surface. Anyway ...I am herxing pretty bad this

morning ...been up all night ...feel like my sore skin is crawling ! Everything

hurts , even my hair ! The numbness in my feet and hands with pain though

worries me the most. Its just such a strange sensation ..to be numb but to hurt

? Give me one or the other ! ha ! NOT BOTH ! Just confusing to me ! I am so

tired but I feel like I should be forcing myself to do things. I just feel

like having a shower and getting in my chair to watch tv for the day ...but I

have things to get done ! I have miles of hardwood floors in here that need

murphys and a good cleaning ! Damn I can't stand being so unable to do things.

I

am so OCD ! If there is dust on my coffee table it about drives me crazy ! I

am very tempted to just have someone just come and give it a good cleaning !

Anyway ....I just wanted to make sure you were ok ..that's all ;-) OH ..a

question for anyone who takes diflucan ...does it make you dizzy ? I feel very

dizzy ....without my glasses is much worse. Funny , two years ago I had

perfect vision, now I have had to get new glasses twice since I was diagnosed.

I

wonder if this affects the eyesight ! GOOD GRIEF !!! Well ..I am sticking with

this diflucan if it kills me ! I was wondering if anyone else experienced

vertigo and nausea ???? Thanks ! You have a nice day Rose Marie ..take care of

yourself ..Kat

[Guest guest]

Hi Kat

I had only one UA that I remember several years ago when I had a

bladder infection and from what I know that's all it showed.

I've had the lower back discomfort/heaviness off and on for along

time (at least 5 years)- I'd thought it was from overwork, stress,

tired and etc.

I found that this last year when I first started drinking green tea,

taking vit C, digestive enzymes, probiotics and now the antibiotics

and stuff for yeast it would come back with each for awhile. I don't

have blood in the urine, but do have a cloudy substance in a kind of

loose bunch- but not with each time of urinating.

I really think it's the yeast, toxins or whatever getting peed out.

My daughter when she started with the anti yeast medicine had this

cloud also and my son said he had " chunks of cloudy stuff and

neither had ever said this before. Neither to my knowledge has the

achiness in the lower back. I think it's probably due to my age,

years of smoking and etc, that my kidneys just can't handle it as

well and protest sometimes.

I've seen those passing a kidney stone and it's nothing like that

bad of pain.

I'm not familiar with polycystic kidney, altho I have read that lyme

can cause cysts- esp in the breasts. Mine aren't as tender or have

the cysts they've always had- they began to get better after I

stopped drinking milk except for a glass every other day or so (I

used to drink upwards of a gallon in the summer when I was busy and

skipping meals).

As far as exercise- I've always done quite a bit of physical labor

(chores, garden, etc), but am not doing near as much as I used to

(no energy or motivation esp the last year), altho this last month

since I'm feeling better I have been deep cleaning the house slowly.

I've read on lymestrategies (where they are using the pure salt and

vit C for lyme) that several people had had their urine/kidneys

checked and all was fine even tho they had pain/discomfort. (I quit

the sea salt for a week or so now- was taking 1gm a day- probably

will try it again at some point as this also causedsome discomfort.

I'm kindof afraid to use our insurance too much as I've heard horror

stories of folks being told they were uninsurable and I don't want

to have that happen.

Appreciate your concern- this last time the foot, back and emotional

roller coaster lasted 3-4 days and wasn't near as bad as it had been

previous times- it has to be my herx- altho it does't follow an

exact # of days perfectly, but then I've only been specifically

treating for lyme since Sept and have adjusted/ tried different

things too.

Thanks again=I appreciate being able to talk to folks that don't

think I'm out in left field (which is pretty much everyone around

here..LOL)

Take care

Rose Marie

>

> In a message dated 11/29/2005 8:53:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> fancy1413@y... writes:

>

> my right lower

> back and sometimes the left too begins to ache

>

>

> Hi Rose !

> That is where you will feel kidney pain ..in your lower

back ...are your

> kidneys alright ? Have you ever had a 24 hour urine test ? Any

kidney problems

> in the family ? Polycystic kidney or anything like that ? I am

certain I drink

> less water than anyone here ...but it doesn't hurt my back ..it

just doesn't

> help the LYME ! I know that I HAVE to drink it and I am ....but

you

> shouldn't have kidney pain .....? Maybe its just muscle pain ? Do

you exercise ? Too

> much maybe ? I don't want to scare you ...just a heads up that's

all

> ..mention it to the doc next time ...K

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/1/2005 7:10:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

fancy1413@... writes:

The dizziness worries me- I really think you should back off a bit

and let stuff clear out and then start back slow--(said this twice

didn't I??

Yes but that's alright ! ha ! It won't hurt me to hear it twice ! I took

only 1/2 last night before bed and 1/2 this am ...I'll do like that until my

body adjusts. You know the first reason I went to my LLMD in was for severe

vertigo ! WHen I get herx symptoms they seem to make all my normal pains and

aches worst ...but in the same place. I just figure this vertigo is part of

herxheimers so I am not too worried about it ....I am more worried about my

difficulty seeing feels like my glasses are

nt working propery ? Hence ..the dizziness ? Who knows ..I'll keep in touch

! THANKS ! KAT

[Guest guest]

Kat

Since you started right off with 2 of the Diflucan- maybe back off

for a day or 2 and let your system flush the gunk out, then start

back at 1/2 a tab.

I noticed that things tend to work on a 3-4 day schedule. I've read

that your intestines renew themselves (the cili) every 3 days.

Just a thought. If you get too much junk circulating your body can't

handle it and I would think that it would recirculate- but I don't

know that for a fact.

I just always think this stuff has to come out via pee, poo or

sweat, and washing it out seems like the easiest to me.. LOL.

Have you ever taken an Epsom salt bath? My husband says it really

helps with the itching. Then use coconut oil to put back the oil in

your skin, it also helps with the itching if it's not too bad. The

Epsom also will let you absorb som Magnesium too.

Thanks for calling me a girl-- that hasn't happened for years..LOL!!

I'm probably your age or older..

BTW My motherinlaw said when things pile up that that way you know

where you've been when you do get to it..

Can't remember- do you take a systemic enzyme? How about your B vit

levels?

The dizziness worries me- I really think you should back off a bit

and let stuff clear out and then start back slow--(said this twice

didn't I??)

Take care

Rose Marie

>

>

>

>

> Good Morning Rosie

> Thanks for your post !!! You seem like such a sweet girl !

Yup ...I know I

> am out in left field most of the time ! ha ! Who cares ? The only

reason I

> asked because we have polycystic kidney disease in our family and

just wanted to

> make sure you knew where they were !!! lol ....when my son was in

Iraq last

> year he passed two kidney stones in a little tent field hopsital

in Fallujia

> during a bad time ! They of course had to many critical cases to

air lift him

> anywhere ...he didn't want to leave anyway ...but they held him

up under his

> arms (all 6'5 " ) and one medic punched him in the back until he

passed out

> ..woke up and passed it ! GOOD GRIEF ..from that day forward I

sent WATER in

> every package ...which I sent EVERY DAY ! I think the stress of

all that is what

> made my lyme come to the surface. Anyway ...I am herxing pretty

bad this

> morning ...been up all night ...feel like my sore skin is

crawling ! Everything

> hurts , even my hair ! The numbness in my feet and hands with

pain though

> worries me the most. Its just such a strange sensation ..to be

numb but to hurt

> ? Give me one or the other ! ha ! NOT BOTH ! Just confusing to

me ! I am so

> tired but I feel like I should be forcing myself to do things. I

just feel

> like having a shower and getting in my chair to watch tv for the

day ...but I

> have things to get done ! I have miles of hardwood floors in here

that need

> murphys and a good cleaning ! Damn I can't stand being so unable

to do things. I

> am so OCD ! If there is dust on my coffee table it about drives

me crazy ! I

> am very tempted to just have someone just come and give it a good

cleaning !

> Anyway ....I just wanted to make sure you were ok ..that's all ;-

) OH ..a

> question for anyone who takes diflucan ...does it make you

dizzy ? I feel very

> dizzy ....without my glasses is much worse. Funny , two years ago

I had

> perfect vision, now I have had to get new glasses twice since I

was diagnosed. I

> wonder if this affects the eyesight ! GOOD GRIEF !!! Well ..I am

sticking with

> this diflucan if it kills me ! I was wondering if anyone else

experienced

> vertigo and nausea ???? Thanks ! You have a nice day Rose

Marie ..take care of

> yourself ..Kat

>

>

>

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Because lyme dehydrates you for unknown reasons, likely the sweating.

fancy1413 <fancy1413@...> wrote:

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