Re: Question about Candida-Success Story

[Guest guest]

Dear DonnaLee,

I am a long standing member of this list and check in from time to time to

see if I can help anyone dealing with this miserable disease which I

unfortunately have plenty of experience with. I think I can provide you with

some

helpful insights.

The symptoms of Candida and Lyme are very similar. In fact, when a person is

treated for Lyme with strong antibiotics for an extended period of time, it

weakens the immune system and very often causes Candida (a yeast overgrowth).

That's when the symptoms overlap, or sometimes the Candida symptoms mimicking

Lyme symptoms make a person feel as if they need to be retreated for Lyme,

when in fact they need to follow a Candida regimen and rebuild the immune

system. Usually when you have Candida, as I did, you crave sugar and have a

rapid

weight gain. Steroids really add fuel to the fire with Candida and that in

conjunction with sugar and antibiotics make us turn into the " Pillsbury Dough

Boy/Girl. " I speak from experience after having gained 80 lbs in a five year

period. Pretty upsetting. Joint pain, swelling and chronic fatigue, brain fog

and confusion can be a Candida symptom or a Lyme symptom.

Your specific symptoms sound circulatory and neurological in nature. Your

vein problems sound circulatory and the weird feeling in your head sounds

neurological and reminds me of the feeling I had years ago when I was very sick

with third-stage neuro Lyme. I would wake up in the morning feeling like my

brain was sleeping and it ran down my face. My face felt cold in certain areas.

Then it would subside. At one point I had Bells Palsy from Lyme. I am not a

doctor and of course I know that is who you will be calling on Monday,

I suggest you cut out sugar, white flour to start. Eat a very healthy diet

rich in green leafy vegetables to make your body more alkaline to work towards

getting rid of the Candida, in case you have it. Limit your dairy as well and

use soy or brown rice milk instead of cow's milk. Take lots of acidophilus.

I recommend Vitadophilus from Sunrider as it is the most potent and gets

right to the colin where all the good bacteria has been destroyed from

medications.

The good news is that no matter whether you have Lyme or Candida, either way,

you need to rebuild your immune system. I am a recovered Lyme patient, and a

couple of the products that got me and my family well (as we all had Lyme

from 1989-1995) was Nuplus Regular, and Calli tea, also from Sunrider. It is

the

best nutritional support you can find and my family and I have been well for

10 years and have been antibiotic free for that period of time.

I have helped many people regain their health with Sunrider Herbal Foods,

which is based on the theory of regeneration from ancient China, that if the

body

receives proper concentrated nourishment, it will regenerate and heal itself.

There is nothing out there like this herbal food, which are on a cellular

level, and I would be happy to teach anyone how to eat and prepare them with

some delicious and simple recipes. I will always be grateful to my friend who

helped me and who found out about this wonderful company based in Torrance, CA.

I have taken many classes and attended numerous seminars in the tri-state area

to learn how to work these foods into our daily diet. In fact, Sunrider is

the most important food we should consume in our day and everything else we eat

is for fun.

This company has been around for 20+ years and is in over 30 countries, and

has owner expertise behind it.

I hope you will try the Nuplus Regular. You won't be sorry.

Rauch

my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

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In a message dated 11/27/2005 3:27:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Poeticsue@... writes:

I suggest you cut out sugar, white flour to start.

are you my llmd in disguise ? ;-)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/2005 12:36:03 PM, KATL1957@... writes:

>are you my llmd in disguise ? ;-)

>

Trust me. You cannot build up your immune system or recover from any auto

immune disease while still consuming white flour and sugar. Your doctor is

right. I guess it's not the first time I've been called Dr. Sue. ;-)

Sue Rauch

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/2005 6:33:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

>Believe me, no one wants to be told to cut off sugar and flour. But

you are right on Sue. I do know lyme bacteria's feed on sugar and

carbs. I was told last week by my wonderful LLMD that honey is ok in

small amounts unless you have yeast problems. According to Burrascanos

2005 report, NO sugar, Very low carbs, honey ok. No alcohol, no

caffeine (I know Kat OUCH!) Rest is very important and NO STRESS.

Splenda ok. Sounds impossible. It is hard, but he says you must comply

if you want to get well. It sucks for sure, but I want to get well so

I am complying like a good little lymie. Kat, " toss the animal

crackers! " Everyone all together now yell " KAT TOSS THE COOKIES!! "

Lets comply together or you can stone me, but you would have to find

me first!

TOSSED !! I know that you are right and I will toss the 'animal crackers'

.....I have never been the kind of person who 'had' to read the labels. I could

eat whatever I wanted , just had the metabolism not to gain wt etc. So I just

never got into the habit. Seems to me , now that I am reading labels that

there is hardly ANYTHING that doesn't contain either flour, wheat or sugar. So

besides MEAT ....oh and YOGURT ...what do 'we' et ? Hmmmmmmm...? Most fruit

has sugars, most white things like potatoes, rice etc ..contain carbs ...which

turn to sugar ...what do we eat ? You tell me , I'll eat it ...well ..most

of it ! Promise , I am too scared not to ! This does not seem like much of a

big deal but having this one thumb go totally numb is bothering me. My legs

today are very bad too. Numb, pain , swelling and redness ....is this from the

increased doxy as in herxheimer or is this just neuro lyme symptoms ? I see

my LLMD on Tuesday , but I am just wondering if these little weird

idiosyncrasies come to all of us, or is it just me ? Thanks ....and Lizzie ,

daaaaaling ...I couldn't run long enough to catch ya anyway !!! hahahah ! I hope

everyone had a nice weekend ! Kat

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 11/27/2005 12:36:03 PM, KATL1957@A... writes:

>

> >are you my llmd in disguise ? ;-)

> >

>

> Trust me. You cannot build up your immune system or recover from

any auto

> immune disease while still consuming white flour and sugar. Your

doctor is

> right. I guess it's not the first time I've been called Dr. Sue. ;-)

>

>

> Sue Rauch

>Believe me, no one wants to be told to cut off sugar and flour. But

you are right on Sue. I do know lyme bacterias feed on sugar and

carbs. I was told last week by my wonderful LLMD that honey is ok in

small amounts unless you have yeast problems. According to Burrascanos

2005 report, NO sugar, Very low carbs, honey ok. No alcohol, no

caffine (I know Kat OUCH!) Rest is very important and NO STRESS.

Splenda ok. Sounds impossible. It is hard, but he says you must comply

if you want to get well. It sucks for sure, but I want to get well so

I am complying like a good little lymie. Kat, " toss the animal

crackers! " Everyone all together now yell " KAT TOSS THE COOKIES!! "

Lets comply together or you can stone me, but you would have to find

me first!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/2005 8:39:04 PM, KATL1957@... writes:

>Seems to me , now that I am reading labels that

>there is hardly ANYTHING that doesn't contain either flour, wheat or sugar.

>So besides MEAT ....oh and YOGURT ...what do 'we' et ? Hmmmmmmm...? Most

>fruit has sugars, most white things like potatoes, rice etc ..contain carbs

>...which turn to sugar ...what do we eat ? You tell me , I'll eat it ...well

..most

>of it ! Promise , I am too scared not to !

Kat,

Glad to hear you are tossing the animal cookies. It was very hard for me to

toss all that stuff as well.

Once you cleanse your body of the sugar and white flour, you won't crave it

at all (well hardly at all). I cleanse with Calli tea and Fortune Delight tea

very dilute, mixed with Sunnydew, an herbal sweetener.

Although it's more costly, I purchase a lot of my food in the health food

isle of my supermarket. I buy Zekiel 7 grain bread sold in the freezer section.

It is wonderful toasted. Great bread for leftover turkey sandwiches. ;-) I

also buy a lot of soy products. I love veggie burgers on this bread with

lettuce, tomato and onion and I buy organic ketchup so as not to have the corn

sweetener. Zekiel also makes hamburger rolls and hotdog rolls. The veggie dogs

are wonderful also.

I make fresh kale in the steamer and sauté it with a little garlic and olive

oil. I keep my steamed kale in the frig and have it whenever I need it. It's

very healthy and loaded with antioxidants and calcium.

I have fruit smoothies for dessert or even for breakfast with Nuplus, fresh

fruit and soy or rice milk. Nuplus is the key to getting rid of any auto

immune disease. I also use chocolate and strawberry Vitashake, which is a

Sunrider

meal replacement and that holds me for about four hours and gives me a lot of

energy. It contains Nuplus and probiotics.

These are just a few ideas to get you started.

Good luck with your new adventures in eating.

Sue

my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 11/27/2005 6:33:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> betneal@y... writes:

>

>

> >Believe me, no one wants to be told to cut off sugar and flour. But

> you are right on Sue. I do know lyme bacteria's feed on sugar and

> carbs. I was told last week by my wonderful LLMD that honey is ok in

> small amounts unless you have yeast problems. According to Burrascanos

> 2005 report, NO sugar, Very low carbs, honey ok. No alcohol, no

> caffeine (I know Kat OUCH!) Rest is very important and NO STRESS.

> Splenda ok. Sounds impossible. It is hard, but he says you must comply

> if you want to get well. It sucks for sure, but I want to get well so

> I am complying like a good little lymie. Kat, " toss the animal

> crackers! " Everyone all together now yell " KAT TOSS THE COOKIES!! "

> Lets comply together or you can stone me, but you would have to find

> me first!

>

>

>

> TOSSED !! I know that you are right and I will toss the 'animal

crackers'

> ....I have never been the kind of person who 'had' to read the

labels. I could

> eat whatever I wanted , just had the metabolism not to gain wt etc.

So I just

> never got into the habit. Seems to me , now that I am reading

labels that

> there is hardly ANYTHING that doesn't contain either flour, wheat or

sugar. So

> besides MEAT ....oh and YOGURT ...what do 'we' et ? Hmmmmmmm...?

Most fruit

> has sugars, most white things like potatoes, rice etc ..contain

carbs ...which

> turn to sugar ...what do we eat ? You tell me , I'll eat it ...well

..most

> of it ! Promise , I am too scared not to ! This does not seem like

much of a

> big deal but having this one thumb go totally numb is bothering me.

My legs

> today are very bad too. Numb, pain , swelling and redness ....is

this from the

> increased doxy as in herxheimer or is this just neuro lyme symptoms

? I see

> my LLMD on Tuesday , but I am just wondering if these little weird

> idiosyncrasies come to all of us, or is it just me ? Thanks ....and

Lizzie ,

> daaaaaling ...I couldn't run long enough to catch ya anyway !!!

hahahah ! I hope

> everyone had a nice weekend ! Kat

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 11/27/2005 6:33:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> betneal@y... writes:

>

> i have not discused the posibility of changing my diet to my LLMD.

is there more sucsess with symptoms in removing all sugars and

flours, or is there an exception to the rule...i dont see my doctor

until feb, so i might just try this to see if it helps...any

opinions?

> >Believe me, no one wants to be told to cut off sugar and flour.

But

> you are right on Sue. I do know lyme bacteria's feed on sugar and

> carbs. I was told last week by my wonderful LLMD that honey is ok

in

> small amounts unless you have yeast problems. According to

Burrascanos

> 2005 report, NO sugar, Very low carbs, honey ok. No alcohol, no

> caffeine (I know Kat OUCH!) Rest is very important and NO STRESS.

> Splenda ok. Sounds impossible. It is hard, but he says you must

comply

> if you want to get well. It sucks for sure, but I want to get

well so

> I am complying like a good little lymie. Kat, " toss the animal

> crackers! " Everyone all together now yell " KAT TOSS THE COOKIES!! "

> Lets comply together or you can stone me, but you would have to

find

> me first!

>

>

>

> TOSSED !! I know that you are right and I will toss the 'animal

crackers'

> ....I have never been the kind of person who 'had' to read the

labels. I could

> eat whatever I wanted , just had the metabolism not to gain wt

etc. So I just

> never got into the habit. Seems to me , now that I am reading

labels that

> there is hardly ANYTHING that doesn't contain either flour, wheat

or sugar. So

> besides MEAT ....oh and YOGURT ...what do 'we' et ? Hmmmmmmm...?

Most fruit

> has sugars, most white things like potatoes, rice etc ..contain

carbs ...which

> turn to sugar ...what do we eat ? You tell me , I'll eat

it ...well ..most

> of it ! Promise , I am too scared not to ! This does not seem like

much of a

> big deal but having this one thumb go totally numb is bothering

me. My legs

> today are very bad too. Numb, pain , swelling and redness ....is

this from the

> increased doxy as in herxheimer or is this just neuro lyme

symptoms ? I see

> my LLMD on Tuesday , but I am just wondering if these little

weird

> idiosyncrasies come to all of us, or is it just me ?

Thanks ....and Lizzie ,

> daaaaaling ...I couldn't run long enough to catch ya anyway !!!

hahahah ! I hope

> everyone had a nice weekend ! Kat

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:15:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

That was a hard one for me, I

did get decaf and that worked.

You are so sweet , writing me a diet ...but its what I put IN the coffee

that I have to get rid of most importantly. Type to you later lizzie ....Kat

ps GOOD MORNING EVERYONE ;-)

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In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:18:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Poeticsue@... writes:

Kat,

Glad to hear you are tossing the animal cookies. It was very hard for me

to

toss all that stuff as well.

Once you cleanse your body of the sugar and white flour, you won't crave it

at all (well hardly at all). I cleanse with Calli tea and Fortune Delight

tea

very dilute, mixed with Sunnydew, an herbal sweetener.

Although it's more costly, I purchase a lot of my food in the health food

isle of my supermarket. I buy Zekiel 7 grain bread sold in the freezer

section.

It is wonderful toasted. Great bread for leftover turkey sandwiches. ;-)

I

also buy a lot of soy products. I love veggie burgers on this bread with

lettuce, tomato and onion and I buy organic ketchup so as not to have the

corn

sweetener. Zekiel also makes hamburger rolls and hotdog rolls. The veggie

dogs

are wonderful also.

I make fresh kale in the steamer and sauté it with a little garlic and olive

oil. I keep my steamed kale in the frig and have it whenever I need it.

It's

very healthy and loaded with antioxidants and calcium.

I have fruit smoothies for dessert or even for breakfast with Nuplus, fresh

fruit and soy or rice milk. Nuplus is the key to getting rid of any auto

immune disease. I also use chocolate and strawberry Vitashake, which is a

Sunrider

meal replacement and that holds me for about four hours and gives me a lot

of

energy. It contains Nuplus and probiotics.

These are just a few ideas to get you started.

Good luck with your new adventures in eating.

Sue

my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

Morning Sue

...Would you be interested in moving to NJ ...the nice part I swear ..and

being my chef ? THIS seems so difficult !!! We have an awesome healthfood

store

where I live but the people who work there all look like 'night of the

living dead' characters ! I swear they do !!! THEY DO NOT look HEALTHY !!! That

is

the one thing that I have always noticed ....they look sick and starving

....and they can be very indignant about what you can and can NOT PUT INTO YOUR

BODY ...I'm just not used to that. Makes me instantly want to rebel. Like when

you were a kid and spit those peas into the napkin ...I know ..GROW UP KAT

.....what can I say ..I have 'ISSUES' ... but I AM trying , I AM !!!

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In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:19:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

chadtrumpower@... writes:

and NO STRESS.

ha ! is it me or did this crack anyone else up ? I'll be here ..in my BUBBLE

!!! haaahaa ! Just teasing you liz ...but its VERY hard NOT to have stress

when you have it ! ITS CALLED KIDS ...ITS CALLED BILLS, ITS CALLED TREES

GROWING OUT OF MY GUTTERS, ITS CALLED MOM, DO I NEED TO SAY MORE ? heehee ! I

am

also trying to cut out stress ...but now I am stressed about what I eat ! I

suppose I have to quit smoking right in the middle of all of this ? hmmmmm? I

still love ya , but we need to be realistic ...one thing at a time here !

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:39:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

KATL1957@... writes:

That was a hard one for me, I

did get decaf and that worked.

How BAD was the headache ? The detox caffiene one ?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:42:30 AM, KATL1957@... writes:

Morning Sue

...Would you be interested in moving to NJ ...the nice part I swear ..and

being my chef ? THIS seems so difficult !!! We have an awesome healthfood

storewhere I live but the people who work there all look like 'night of the

living dead' characters ! I swear they do !!! THEY DO NOT look HEALTHY!!!

That is >the one thing that I have always noticed ....they look sick and

starving

....and they can be very indignant about what you can and can NOT PUT INTO

YOUR BODY ...I'm just not used to that. Makes me instantly want to rebel.

Like

when you were a kid and spit those peas into the napkin ...I know ..GROW UP

>KAT ....what can I say ..I have 'ISSUES' ... but I AM trying , I AM !!!

KAT,

You have a great sense of humor!!! The funniest part of this is that I don't

have to move to NJ to cook for you because I already live there. What would

be even funnier is if we lived in the same county. I know a healthfood store

in Manalapan, NJ with people who look like " living dead characters " and have a

very high and mighty attitude. I hardly ever shop there. I love Wegman's

healthfood section although my husband has banned me from the store because I

spend way to much money there. I live in ville, NJ. (Monmouth County

- the home of Lyme disease). Where in NJ are you?

SUE

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 11/28/2005 7:39:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> KATL1957@A... writes:

>

> That was a hard one for me, I

> did get decaf and that worked.

>

>

>

>

> How BAD was the headache ? The detox caffiene one ?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 11/27/2005 8:39:04 PM, KATL1957@A... writes:

>

> >Seems to me , now that I am reading labels that

> >there is hardly ANYTHING that doesn't contain either flour, wheat

or sugar.

> >So besides MEAT ....oh and YOGURT ...what do 'we' et ? Hmmmmmmm...?

Most

> >fruit has sugars, most white things like potatoes, rice etc

...contain carbs

> >...which turn to sugar ...what do we eat ? You tell me , I'll eat

it ...well

> ..most

> >of it ! Promise , I am too scared not to !

>

> Kat,

> Glad to hear you are tossing the animal cookies. It was very hard

for me to

> toss all that stuff as well.

> Once you cleanse your body of the sugar and white flour, you won't

crave it

> at all (well hardly at all). I cleanse with Calli tea and Fortune

Delight tea

> very dilute, mixed with Sunnydew, an herbal sweetener.

> Although it's more costly, I purchase a lot of my food in the health

food

> isle of my supermarket. I buy Zekiel 7 grain bread sold in the

freezer section.

> It is wonderful toasted. Great bread for leftover turkey

sandwiches. ;-) I

> also buy a lot of soy products. I love veggie burgers on this bread

with

> lettuce, tomato and onion and I buy organic ketchup so as not to

have the corn

> sweetener. Zekiel also makes hamburger rolls and hotdog rolls. The

veggie dogs

> are wonderful also.

> I make fresh kale in the steamer and sauté it with a little garlic

and olive

> oil. I keep my steamed kale in the frig and have it whenever I need

it. It's

> very healthy and loaded with antioxidants and calcium.

> I have fruit smoothies for dessert or even for breakfast with

Nuplus, fresh

> fruit and soy or rice milk. Nuplus is the key to getting rid of any

auto

> immune disease. I also use chocolate and strawberry Vitashake,

which is a Sunrider

> meal replacement and that holds me for about four hours and gives me

a lot of

> energy. It contains Nuplus and probiotics.

> These are just a few ideas to get you started.

>

> Good luck with your new adventures in eating.

>

> Sue

> my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

>

I make my own suger free yougart! You can purchase on online for

$30.00. Taste real good too!

[Guest guest]

Kat,

I hear ya. There is no way to remove stress, but there are ways to

miniize it. For me it was telling myself to focus on recovering from

Lyme and on nothing else that wasn't really critical. So when family

members have problems I had to let it go, when money issues came up I

only focused on the critical ones and I stopped spending all that I

could, when work was an issue I decided it was better to lose my job

then loose my health... I learned simple breathing techniques to

deal with my panic and anxiety attacks.

I also had to stop smoking to win the battle against Lyme. Either of

these are tough to beat, but you can beat them both! I stopped

smoking on September 7th, 2004 and haven't smoked since. The reason

is simple, I was scared straight! With all of my severe Lyme

symptoms I first thought I had Lung Cancer because I had Pnuemonia

that wouldn't go away, later I thought I was having major heart

attacks, then I thought I had MS. So I came to the conclusion that

no matter how good smoking made me feel, and it does let you forget

your problems and feel good for a short period, it was one thing that

I needed to stop. I know it isn't easy. I KNOW IT ISN'T EASY, but

please try to stop smoking. It will speed up your recovery and help

your overall heath and well being.

I had a real tough time quiting so please let me know if there is

anything I can do to help.

Be well,

>

>

> In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:19:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> chadtrumpower@h... writes:

>

> and NO STRESS.

>

>

>

> ha ! is it me or did this crack anyone else up ? I'll be here ..in

my BUBBLE

> !!! haaahaa ! Just teasing you liz ...but its VERY hard NOT to

have stress

> when you have it ! ITS CALLED KIDS ...ITS CALLED BILLS, ITS CALLED

TREES

> GROWING OUT OF MY GUTTERS, ITS CALLED MOM, DO I NEED TO SAY MORE ?

heehee ! I am

> also trying to cut out stress ...but now I am stressed about what I

eat ! I

> suppose I have to quit smoking right in the middle of all of this ?

hmmmmm? I

> still love ya , but we need to be realistic ...one thing at a time

here !

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:11:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

@... writes:

I had a real tough time quiting so please let me know if there is

anything I can do to help.

Be well,

You are killing me Kev !!! JUST killing me one day at a time !!! lol ...just

teasing you hon ....I KNOW ...I KNOW ..I KNOW ..but geez ...can't we take

just one hurdle at a time ? Last week I was putting international french

vanilla AND sugar in my coffee ....now I have cut that out and am working on

the

coffee .....and I am herxing bad from the doxy and cats claw ...AND my son

burned down his garage building a new harley for some guy ....I get him back

from

Iraq to have him almost kill himself with a fuel line ......so .......I

promise I will do anything and everything you all suggest ....YOU are my doctor

in disguise ..I JUST KNOW IT !!!! SHOW YOURSELF ~!!! hahahaha !!!! Just

teasing ! I'll type more later ...I must go eat something HEALTHY and gag down

some

water with my doxy !

Ya know ..I love ya all ...really ....I do ...that's not a joke ...I do and

I respect each and every one of you...don't know how I even lived this past

year without you ..but lets pick on someone else for just tonight ?

hmmmmmm...whos it gonna be ? xoox Kat

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 5:01:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Poeticsue@... writes:

KAT,

You have a great sense of humor!!! The funniest part of this is that I

don't

have to move to NJ to cook for you because I already live there. What would

be even funnier is if we lived in the same county. I know a healthfood

store

in Manalapan, NJ with people who look like " living dead characters " and have

a

very high and mighty attitude. I hardly ever shop there. I love Wegman's

healthfood section although my husband has banned me from the store because

I

spend way to much money there. I live in ville, NJ. (Monmouth

County

- the home of Lyme disease). Where in NJ are you?

SUE

HA ! Hi Sue !

I live in Manasquan BUT ...lived in Colts Neck as a kid ..married a

ville boy .....ok ...I have a test ..what family (BIG) grew up on Brown

Road in

ville ! I'll give you a hint ...my last name begins with La

.....this is so much fun ! AND yup ...I do have a sense of humor ..I have to or

this bunch of stiffs who wont' eat a candy will kill me !!! lol ! Just kidding

guys ! ;-) Kat

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:18:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

@... writes:

Ha! You've got me rolling in my chair ;-)

LOL !!!! ME TOO !!!! Don't you just love a good belly laugh ! I do swear it

helps !!! Funny thing is ...3 hours from now I will picture YOU laughing in

your chair ..and I will crack up all over again !!! GOOD !!!! 'WE' all need a

good laugh !

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 8:02:07 PM, KATL1957@... writes:

>HA ! Hi Sue !

>I live in Manasquan BUT ...lived in Colts Neck as a kid ..married a

>ville boy .....ok ...I have a test ..what family (BIG) grew up on

>Brown Road in

>ville ! I'll give you a hint ...my last name begins with La

>

>....this is so much fun ! AND yup ...I do have a sense of humor ..I have

>to or

>this bunch of stiffs who wont' eat a candy will kill me !!! lol ! Just

>kidding

>guys ! ;-) Kat

>

KAT,

I love Manasquan. I live right near Brown Road. I live right off Conover

Road in a small development. My kids used to walk to Marlboro Airport when they

were teens and eat in the airport restaurant. They loved fine dining. No

more Airport. Kids moved to NYC. So sad. but empty nest has its merits. I

don't know the names of the families on Brown Road, but my son was friends with

a couple of kids on Brown. One was a really amazing drummer. Is your husband

part of that family. What is the last name. I might recognize it. I live

right around the corner from where the Stafflinger family lived. They all had

Lyme too. A very sad story.

All the sugar and white flour aside, the first step towards regaining our

health is to have a good sense of humor, to enjoy laughing at comedy movies and

to find the humor even in this miserable disease. When my daughter was being

home schooled on I.V. and in a hospital bed in my family room, I rented comedy

movies because it releases endorphins in the brain which improve the immune

system. That along with the Sunrider herbal food is what got her well. I gave

up on my arsenal of drugs and went totally holistic. Sunrider is just

concentrated vegetables and with the nutrition in concentrated vegetables, we

can

regenerate from any illness. As I said and I can't recommend this strongly

enough, Nuplus is the key to getting healthy. It's concentrated nutrition with

no work to prepare, cut and vegs, and that's for me.

Sue

my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

Sue Rauch

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:11:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Poeticsue@... writes:

KAT,

I love Manasquan. I live right near Brown Road. I live right off Conover

Road in a small development. My kids used to walk to Marlboro Airport when

they

were teens and eat in the airport restaurant. They loved fine dining. No

more Airport. Kids moved to NYC. So sad. but empty nest has its merits. I

don't know the names of the families on Brown Road, but my son was friends

with

a couple of kids on Brown. One was a really amazing drummer. Is your

husband

part of that family. What is the last name. I might recognize it. I live

right around the corner from where the Stafflinger family lived. They all

had

Lyme too. A very sad story.

All the sugar and white flour aside, the first step towards regaining our

health is to have a good sense of humor, to enjoy laughing at comedy movies

and

to find the humor even in this miserable disease. When my daughter was

being

home schooled on I.V. and in a hospital bed in my family room, I rented

comedy

movies because it releases endorphins in the brain which improve the immune

system. That along with the Sunrider herbal food is what got her well. I

gave

up on my arsenal of drugs and went totally holistic. Sunrider is just

concentrated vegetables and with the nutrition in concentrated vegetables,

we can

regenerate from any illness. As I said and I can't recommend this strongly

enough, Nuplus is the key to getting healthy. It's concentrated nutrition

with

no work to prepare, cut and vegs, and that's for me.

Sue

my.sunrider.com/susanrauch

Sue Rauch

Hi Sue ...

I have to get to bed ..appt with my doc in the morning ...I was married to a

LaMura ...all the uncles built house on that same road ..some on 79 and

others on Brown ...not many left now ...my inlaws moved to Fla and many of them

retired down there. I went to MHS ..class of 75. My ex husband was class of 72

! Isnt' it a small world ! I love Manasquan also , lots of people from up

there have moved down here. My family was always from here ..my Mom a Manasquan

hs grad ....shes back here now also. I bought my home from my great Aunt

when I was first married and pregnant with my son Chris. He will be 27 next

month, just finished an 8 year tour with the USArmy. I also have a daughter that

is 23. AND ..a little grandaughter So , I have lived in this house for 27

years , and I'll most likely croak here ! Its a wonderful place to raise

kids ..such a nice community, nice beach ....its just nice. Anyway ..so funny !

If I were to start a lyme group would you be interested ? Think about it and

take care ! Email if you'd like ! Kat

[Guest guest]

Kat,

Ha! You've got me rolling in my chair ;-)

I hear ya. Life's too short to worry about every little thing. I

love it when those health fanatics end up getting hit by a bus (he

says with a playfull sarcastic grin :->

Keep it up. Your zest for life and for laughter is the best

medicine!

Keep 'em coming.

Be well,

>

>

> In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:11:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> @M... writes:

>

>

> I had a real tough time quiting so please let me know if there is

> anything I can do to help.

>

> Be well,

>

>

>

>

>

> You are killing me Kev !!! JUST killing me one day at a time !!!

lol ...just

> teasing you hon ....I KNOW ...I KNOW ..I KNOW ..but geez ...can't

we take

> just one hurdle at a time ? Last week I was putting international

french

> vanilla AND sugar in my coffee ....now I have cut that out and am

working on the

> coffee .....and I am herxing bad from the doxy and cats

claw ...AND my son

> burned down his garage building a new harley for some guy ....I

get him back from

> Iraq to have him almost kill himself with a fuel

line ......so .......I

> promise I will do anything and everything you all suggest ....YOU

are my doctor

> in disguise ..I JUST KNOW IT !!!! SHOW YOURSELF ~!!!

hahahaha !!!! Just

> teasing ! I'll type more later ...I must go eat something HEALTHY

and gag down some

> water with my doxy !

> Ya know ..I love ya all ...really ....I do ...that's not a

joke ...I do and

> I respect each and every one of you...don't know how I even lived

this past

> year without you ..but lets pick on someone else for just

tonight ?

> hmmmmmm...whos it gonna be ? xoox Kat

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/29/2005 12:15:47 AM, KATL1957@... writes:

>Hi Sue ...

>I have to get to bed ..appt with my doc in the morning ...I was married

>to a LaMura ...all the uncles built house on that same road ..some on 79 and

>others on Brown ...not many left now ...my inlaws moved to Fla and many

>of them retired down there. I went to MHS ..class of 75. My ex husband was

class

>of 72 ! Isnt' it a small world ! I love Manasquan also , lots of people from

>up there have moved down here. My family was always from here ..my Mom a

>Manasquan hs grad ....shes back here now also. I bought my home from my

great Aunt

>when I was first married and pregnant with my son Chris. He will be 27

>next month, just finished an 8 year tour with the USArmy. I also have a

daughter

>that is 23. AND ..a little grandaughter So , I have lived in this house

>for 27 years , and I'll most likely croak here ! Its a wonderful place to

raise

>kids ..such a nice community, nice beach ....its just nice. Anyway ..so

> funny ! If I were to start a lyme group would you be interested ? Think

about it

> and take care ! Email if you'd like ! Kat

>

Hi Kat,

It is a small world. Don't really know that family name, but my son might.

Our children are around the same age. My son is 28 and my daughter is 25,

both Marlboro H.S. graduates. They both live in Manhattan now, and my husband

world there and I commute there to go to school. Don't know why I just don't

move there, but if I did, my kids would probably move to L.A. I love NJ, even

though I am originally a New Yorker, born in Brooklyn and grew up in Far

Rockaway, NY. Lucky you - to be a grandma. How wonderful.

Years ago, I did belong to a few Lyme groups and was very active. Now I just

donate money when we can. For some people it's great to have a Lyme group

and share health issues and experiences, and I think you should do it. I have

shifted my energy in a different direction over the past five years and

regained my health with the help of my dear friend who is moving on Thursday

from

ville to California. She taught me everything about the Sunrider food and

I am going to miss her more than anything. She hs helped a lot of people with

their health issues and California is lucky to get her. She is only a phone

call away for any of us who need her help. She will always be the Sunrider

guru of Monmouth County.

Anyway, about your group. If you would like, I would be happy to come in as

a guest speaker at some point and explain what I did to regain my health. I

could even make some herbal smoothies for everyone to taste. I told you I

would cook for you.;-) Just say the word and I'll be there,

Take care,

Sue

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/30/2005 2:06:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Poeticsue@... writes:

Hi Kat,

It is a small world. Don't really know that family name, but my son might.

Our children are around the same age. My son is 28 and my daughter is 25,

both Marlboro H.S. graduates. They both live in Manhattan now, and my

husband

world there and I commute there to go to school. Don't know why I just

don't

move there, but if I did, my kids would probably move to L.A. I love NJ,

even

though I am originally a New Yorker, born in Brooklyn and grew up in Far

Rockaway, NY. Lucky you - to be a grandma. How wonderful.

Years ago, I did belong to a few Lyme groups and was very active. Now I

just

donate money when we can. For some people it's great to have a Lyme group

and share health issues and experiences, and I think you should do it. I

have

shifted my energy in a different direction over the past five years and

regained my health with the help of my dear friend who is moving on Thursday

from

ville to California. She taught me everything about the Sunrider food

and

I am going to miss her more than anything. She hs helped a lot of people

with

their health issues and California is lucky to get her. She is only a phone

call away for any of us who need her help. She will always be the Sunrider

guru of Monmouth County.

Anyway, about your group. If you would like, I would be happy to come in as

a guest speaker at some point and explain what I did to regain my health.

I

could even make some herbal smoothies for everyone to taste. I told you I

would cook for you.;-) Just say the word and I'll be there,

Take care,

Sue

I too love the city ! But , would still have to have my Squan house !

When I am really sick , I watch HGTV all day ....they make some of those

little lofts look oh so sweet ! It is so nice, BUT ....on the other hand, I

need

space ....lots of it ! I sure would move to Cali if I didn't have my

children and my Mom here ... AND yes ..the best thing in my life is my little

grandaughter !!! SHE IS THE GREATEST ....5 now and just so funny , the things

that

come out of her mouth ! Anyway ...YES it sure is a small world ! As I said,

most of the LaMura family has gone south. Most of my inlaws grandchildren went

to Catholic school , the ones that lived up there on 79 and Brown ..not many

left now. My kids went to Manasquan. I am so glad to hear that for now you

have concurred lyme ! That is just wonderful ! I hope someday I will be

telling all of you about my recovery ! For now , I am starting to have herx

reactions from the diflucan ..but that is my fault. I forgot the directions and

just

took what was written on the bottle. Didn't titrate up as I was supposed to

do ! If I do get some people for a support group I sure will call on you to

speak of your products. People get so busy , who knows if anyone would even

want a group once a month. I would , but lots of people aren't into that sort

of

thing. ME ...I'll take all the support and information I can get my sore

little hands on ! Have a nice day ! Sure did rain last night huh ? Take care,

Kat