Re: Bush has disseminated, active Lyme Disease!

[Guest guest]

I agree with you, Duncan. It's so obvious to those of us who continue to suffer

symptoms. There will come a day when Bush himself will most likely be

self-diagnosing, questioning his treating physicians and insisting that there is

something more going on with him.

I wonder if the docs will continue to say that his vertigo is viral-related

after he's experienced it for several more months. I remember a discussion

either on this group or another one several months ago regarding Lymies'

observations regarding his speech and slow cognitive function. You guys were

right on the money!!

One important note to think about: Why is Wormser the only doctor quoted

in the Washington Post article? He most conveniently had the opportunity to

speak his filthy lies with regard to the President and ultimately to all of us

and the IDSA investigation. Fishy.

I think it's time to flood the White House with copies of the ILADS

Guidelines.

Tina

L.E.A.P. Arizona

Lyme Education Awareness Program

P.O. Box 2654

Mesa, Arizona 85214-2654

480-219-6869 Phone

480-830-2788 Fax

dunmunro1 <dmunro@...> wrote:

Here's what the NT Times has to say:

" Though President Bush has had episodes of mild vertigo in recent

weeks, they have not interfered with his work, and he is in excellent

health, the White House said yesterday in releasing findings from his

annual medical checkup.

The bouts of unsteadiness, which were reported as having improved,

began after Mr. Bush had a viral infection in June at the Group of 8

meeting in Germany, the White House said. Such dizziness often follows

viral infections, usually of the upper respiratory tract, and can last

a few weeks. The symptoms may be continuous or intermittent.

Mr. Bush has sinusitis and has recovered from serous otitis media, an

ear infection, in the last few days, his doctors said. The medical

report said Mr. Bush, 61, was treated last August for a skin rash over

his left shin attributed to Lyme disease.

The White House did not disclose the diagnosis last August because

Lyme disease had not interfered with Mr. Bush's duties, as when he

temporarily turned over the powers of the presidency to Vice President

Dick Cheney when he had a colonoscopy in July. Mr. Bush's doctors

described him as " fit for duty, " a standard military phrase.

M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman, likened Mr. Bush's episodes

of imbalance to the feeling that can occur in someone who has just

gotten off a boat.

" The president goes for lengthy bike rides on narrow trails in the

woods and does not have any problems with his balance, " Mr. Stanzel said.

Mr. Bush rearranged his schedule at the Group of 8 meeting because he

had a head cold and was not feeling well. The periods of unsteadiness

began after that, Mr. Stanzel said.

The doctors attributed the unsteadiness to mild vestibular neuronitis

in the president's left ear. The serous otitis media was in the right

ear and was first detected last Friday, but has since cleared up. The

sinusitis involved the right maxillary sinus.

The findings are consistent with viral illnesses that can be followed

by periods of unsteadiness for several weeks, said Dr. G.

, the chief of ear, nose and throat medicine at

NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. Untreated Lyme disease

can lead to nerve damage, often involving the eighth cranial nerve,

the same one affected by vestibular neuronitis. But Mr. Bush's doctors

said they did not believe the Lyme infection was linked to his

vestibular neuronitis because the skin lesion had not recurred.

The White House doctors evaluated Mr. Bush for Meniere's disease,

another inner ear ailment that can produce vertigo, hearing loss and

ringing in the ears. But the doctors ruled out Meniere's disease

because Mr. Bush did not have some key signs and symptoms, the White

House official said without disclosing what they were.

Dr. J. Tubb, physician to the president, and Dr.

of Dallas oversaw 11 other doctors who examined Mr. Bush in

sessions starting July 17.

Mr. Bush weighed 192 pounds, 4 pounds less than last year, a change he

attributed to " less birthday cake. "

Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

cheers

Duncan

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

>

> Here's what the NT Times has to say:

>

> " Though President Bush has had episodes of mild vertigo in recent

> weeks, they have not interfered with his work, and he is in

excellent

> health, ...

>

> The findings are consistent with viral illnesses that can be

followed

> by periods of unsteadiness for several weeks, said Dr. G.

> , the chief of ear, nose and throat medicine at

> NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. Untreated Lyme disease

> can lead to nerve damage, often involving the eighth cranial nerve,

> the same one affected by vestibular neuronitis. But Mr. Bush's

doctors

> said they did not believe the Lyme infection was linked to his

> vestibular neuronitis because the skin lesion had not recurred.

The findings are also consistent with chronic Lyme disease. A year

and a half ago, nearly 2 years after I was infected with Lyme, I also

had 4-5 " flus " in a row, and had vertigo so bad, I couldn't hold

water down for 2 days. I finally drove myself to the Urgent Care and

they said it was a viral inner ear infection, gave me Anti-Vert for

motion sickness.

It's interesting how they don't need tests to determine " viral "

infections; those they can diagnose based on clinical information.

I think Mr. Bush is in for a long ride.

>

> Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to

realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

>

>

> cheers

>

> Duncan

>

I agree.

Be well,

Connie

[Guest guest]

I am willing to do just that! Who will join me??

I plan on sending a care package of every back issue of the PHA that I have

along with the ILADS guidelines to the whitehouse and the doctor who treated him

in Dallas.

Hopefully he will get the information or at least the doctor will read and

consider more testing...

I really encourage you all to print and send a copy of the ILADS guidelines to

the white house...the numbers alone may make a statement!

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your support for this idea, Dawn! I personally do not agree with the

policies of President Bush and the rest of his administration. However, I

remember the parable of The Good Samaritan and It is important to me to be such

a good Samaritan and pass much-needed information to President Bush for his

future use.

Tina J.

Dawn Irons <gratefulwife2brad@...> wrote:

I am willing to do just that! Who will join me??

I plan on sending a care package of every back issue of the PHA that I have

along with the ILADS guidelines to the whitehouse and the doctor who treated him

in Dallas.

Hopefully he will get the information or at least the doctor will read and

consider more testing...

I really encourage you all to print and send a copy of the ILADS guidelines to

the white house...the numbers alone may make a statement!

Dawn

[Guest guest]

dunmunro1 wrote:

> Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

>

> cheers

>

> Duncan

Hi All,

Someone probably gave Bush 3 weeks of antibiotics

and declared him cured -- faith-based medicine --

more impressive if accompanied by rattle dancing.

To repeat, a " cure " means no spirochetes can be

photographed in blood or other tissues WHEN

STAINED FOR LYME.

Jack

[Guest guest]

dunmunro1 wrote:

> Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

Also, mid-ear problems and sinusitis are symptoms of Lyme Disease. Upper

respiratory symptoms of especially typical of babesiosis. Just ask me, I

know firsthand about those, dang it!

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Duncan said:

" Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

that his Lyme was inadequately treated. "

And...it's kinda scary to think of someone who may have brain fog, as

many of us have had, with his hand on the button of a nuclear attack.

ellen

, " dunmunro1 " <dmunro@...> wrote:

>

> Here's what the NT Times has to say:

>

> " Though President Bush has had episodes of mild vertigo in recent

> weeks, they have not interfered with his work, and he is in excellent

> health, the White House said yesterday in releasing findings from his

> annual medical checkup.

>

> The bouts of unsteadiness, which were reported as having improved,

> began after Mr. Bush had a viral infection in June at the Group of 8

> meeting in Germany, the White House said. Such dizziness often follows

> viral infections, usually of the upper respiratory tract, and can last

> a few weeks. The symptoms may be continuous or intermittent.

>

> Mr. Bush has sinusitis and has recovered from serous otitis media, an

> ear infection, in the last few days, his doctors said. The medical

> report said Mr. Bush, 61, was treated last August for a skin rash over

> his left shin attributed to Lyme disease.

>

> The White House did not disclose the diagnosis last August because

> Lyme disease had not interfered with Mr. Bush's duties, as when he

> temporarily turned over the powers of the presidency to Vice President

> Dick Cheney when he had a colonoscopy in July. Mr. Bush's doctors

> described him as " fit for duty, " a standard military phrase.

>

> M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman, likened Mr. Bush's episodes

> of imbalance to the feeling that can occur in someone who has just

> gotten off a boat.

>

> " The president goes for lengthy bike rides on narrow trails in the

> woods and does not have any problems with his balance, " Mr. Stanzel

said.

>

> Mr. Bush rearranged his schedule at the Group of 8 meeting because he

> had a head cold and was not feeling well. The periods of unsteadiness

> began after that, Mr. Stanzel said.

>

> The doctors attributed the unsteadiness to mild vestibular neuronitis

> in the president's left ear. The serous otitis media was in the right

> ear and was first detected last Friday, but has since cleared up. The

> sinusitis involved the right maxillary sinus.

>

> The findings are consistent with viral illnesses that can be followed

> by periods of unsteadiness for several weeks, said Dr. G.

> , the chief of ear, nose and throat medicine at

> NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. Untreated Lyme disease

> can lead to nerve damage, often involving the eighth cranial nerve,

> the same one affected by vestibular neuronitis. But Mr. Bush's doctors

> said they did not believe the Lyme infection was linked to his

> vestibular neuronitis because the skin lesion had not recurred.

>

> The White House doctors evaluated Mr. Bush for Meniere's disease,

> another inner ear ailment that can produce vertigo, hearing loss and

> ringing in the ears. But the doctors ruled out Meniere's disease

> because Mr. Bush did not have some key signs and symptoms, the White

> House official said without disclosing what they were.

>

> Dr. J. Tubb, physician to the president, and Dr.

> of Dallas oversaw 11 other doctors who examined Mr. Bush in

> sessions starting July 17.

>

> Mr. Bush weighed 192 pounds, 4 pounds less than last year, a change he

> attributed to " less birthday cake. "

>

>

> Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

>

>

> cheers

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

One bit of good news,

on the Huffington Post site,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/09/bush-treated-for-lyme-dis_n_59788.html

where I saw the Bush article, one of the ads was for Rosner's

book, Conventional and alternative options to treat Lyme.

ellen

> >

> > Here's what the NT Times has to say:

> >

> > " Though President Bush has had episodes of mild vertigo in recent

> > weeks, they have not interfered with his work, and he is in excellent

> > health, the White House said yesterday in releasing findings from his

> > annual medical checkup.

> >

> > The bouts of unsteadiness, which were reported as having improved,

> > began after Mr. Bush had a viral infection in June at the Group of 8

> > meeting in Germany, the White House said. Such dizziness often follows

> > viral infections, usually of the upper respiratory tract, and can last

> > a few weeks. The symptoms may be continuous or intermittent.

> >

> > Mr. Bush has sinusitis and has recovered from serous otitis media, an

> > ear infection, in the last few days, his doctors said. The medical

> > report said Mr. Bush, 61, was treated last August for a skin rash over

> > his left shin attributed to Lyme disease.

> >

> > The White House did not disclose the diagnosis last August because

> > Lyme disease had not interfered with Mr. Bush's duties, as when he

> > temporarily turned over the powers of the presidency to Vice President

> > Dick Cheney when he had a colonoscopy in July. Mr. Bush's doctors

> > described him as " fit for duty, " a standard military phrase.

> >

> > M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman, likened Mr. Bush's episodes

> > of imbalance to the feeling that can occur in someone who has just

> > gotten off a boat.

> >

> > " The president goes for lengthy bike rides on narrow trails in the

> > woods and does not have any problems with his balance, " Mr. Stanzel

> said.

> >

> > Mr. Bush rearranged his schedule at the Group of 8 meeting because he

> > had a head cold and was not feeling well. The periods of unsteadiness

> > began after that, Mr. Stanzel said.

> >

> > The doctors attributed the unsteadiness to mild vestibular neuronitis

> > in the president's left ear. The serous otitis media was in the right

> > ear and was first detected last Friday, but has since cleared up. The

> > sinusitis involved the right maxillary sinus.

> >

> > The findings are consistent with viral illnesses that can be followed

> > by periods of unsteadiness for several weeks, said Dr. G.

> > , the chief of ear, nose and throat medicine at

> > NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. Untreated Lyme disease

> > can lead to nerve damage, often involving the eighth cranial nerve,

> > the same one affected by vestibular neuronitis. But Mr. Bush's doctors

> > said they did not believe the Lyme infection was linked to his

> > vestibular neuronitis because the skin lesion had not recurred.

> >

> > The White House doctors evaluated Mr. Bush for Meniere's disease,

> > another inner ear ailment that can produce vertigo, hearing loss and

> > ringing in the ears. But the doctors ruled out Meniere's disease

> > because Mr. Bush did not have some key signs and symptoms, the White

> > House official said without disclosing what they were.

> >

> > Dr. J. Tubb, physician to the president, and Dr.

> > of Dallas oversaw 11 other doctors who examined Mr. Bush in

> > sessions starting July 17.

> >

> > Mr. Bush weighed 192 pounds, 4 pounds less than last year, a change he

> > attributed to " less birthday cake. "

> >

> >

> > Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> > untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> > agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

> > that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

> >

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Let's hope he doesn't go into a LYME RAGE!!! LOL

rasheedaas <rasheedaas@...> wrote: Duncan said:

" Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to realize

that his Lyme was inadequately treated. "

And...it's kinda scary to think of someone who may have brain fog, as

many of us have had, with his hand on the button of a nuclear attack.

ellen

[Guest guest]

Too had several bouts with the “flu” finally winding up in ICU. Couldn’t

figure out the cause.

When I was discharged my discharge diagnosis as “Sepsis” – a blood

infection.

No cause was ever found. Today I am not even sure what they gave me to get

me back to “normal”

Never cared until now. But I know I was on a boat load of oral and IV

antibiotics for the 3 weeks I was there.

Don’t wish that on anyone.

Patty

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Subject: [ ] Re: Bush has disseminated, active Lyme Disease!

>

> Here's what the NT Times has to say:

>

> " Though President Bush has had episodes of mild vertigo in recent

> weeks, they have not interfered with his work, and he is in

excellent

> health, ...

>

> The findings are consistent with viral illnesses that can be

followed

> by periods of unsteadiness for several weeks, said Dr. G.

> , the chief of ear, nose and throat medicine at

> NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital. Untreated Lyme disease

> can lead to nerve damage, often involving the eighth cranial nerve,

> the same one affected by vestibular neuronitis. But Mr. Bush's

doctors

> said they did not believe the Lyme infection was linked to his

> vestibular neuronitis because the skin lesion had not recurred.

The findings are also consistent with chronic Lyme disease. A year

and a half ago, nearly 2 years after I was infected with Lyme, I also

had 4-5 " flus " in a row, and had vertigo so bad, I couldn't hold

water down for 2 days. I finally drove myself to the Urgent Care and

they said it was a viral inner ear infection, gave me Anti-Vert for

motion sickness.

It's interesting how they don't need tests to determine " viral "

infections; those they can diagnose based on clinical information.

I think Mr. Bush is in for a long ride.

>

> Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to

realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated.

>

>

> cheers

>

> Duncan

>

I agree.

Be well,

Connie

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

Yeahhhh! Man, that is scary to think about!!

Duncan said:

> " Vertigo, and recurrent flu like illnesses are typical symptoms of

> untreated or insufficiently treated Lyme Disease. Poor Bush, I don't

> agree with his politics but he's probably not bright enough to

realize

> that his Lyme was inadequately treated. "

>

> And...it's kinda scary to think of someone who may have brain fog, as

> many of us have had, with his hand on the button of a nuclear attack.

>

> ellen

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto! Muriel

[ ] Re: Bush has disseminated, active Lyme Disease!

Ellen,

Yeahhhh! Man, that is scary to think about!!

[Guest guest]

Ellen,

I don't think of him ordering nuclear attacks, but I did have these bad

thoughts come to my mind where Bush is standing there scratching his head

thinking:

" now what was I doing, what is going on? " Okay I should not make fun of him,

I was one of the once who originally voted for him. At least now he can use

his illness as an excuse. I know I always do. Lol

Dagmar

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