drinking

[Guest guest]

Hmmmm...I get about 100ozs a day! I get 80ozs through my jtube and drink

about 20ozs a day. I drink 8ozs of Chocolate Soy Milk, 16ozs of Snapple Iced

Tea, or a few juice boxes (lemon aid, grape juice, or strawberry

juice)...Through my tube I get, Tolerex, V8 Splash Juice, water, and Miracle

2000 vitamin. I

have noticed that I drink more since my jtube feedings. I also I don't have

to worry about bathroom breaks because I use diapers. I didn't drink nearly

enough before my jtube and was chronically dehydrated for 5+ years. Thank

goodness for my jtube!!!!!!!

MJ Purk

17, SMA I+

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[Guest guest]

How do you take the Miracle 2000? That stuff is nasty tasting, and

overpowers anything it's mixed with...even the " cherry " flavored.

Jay

Re: Drinking

Hmmmm...I get about 100ozs a day! I get 80ozs through my jtube and

drink

about 20ozs a day. I drink 8ozs of Chocolate Soy Milk, 16ozs of Snapple

Iced

Tea, or a few juice boxes (lemon aid, grape juice, or strawberry

juice)...Through my tube I get, Tolerex, V8 Splash Juice, water, and

Miracle 2000 vitamin. I

have noticed that I drink more since my jtube feedings. I also I don't

have

to worry about bathroom breaks because I use diapers. I didn't drink

nearly

enough before my jtube and was chronically dehydrated for 5+ years.

Thank

goodness for my jtube!!!!!!!

MJ Purk

17, SMA I+

“Be true! Be true! Be true! Show freely to the world, if not your

worst, yet

some trait whereby the worst may be inferred!†~ iel Hawthorne's

“

The Scarlet Letterâ€

http://www.caringbridge.com/ny/mjpurk

<http://www.caringbridge.com/ny/mjpurk> - My Journal

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<http://www.our-sma-angels.com/Margaret/> - My Original Website

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Website

http://www.our-sma-angels.com/b4sma/

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http://www3.caringbridge.org/ny/b4sma/

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Site

[Guest guest]

Hey MJ, I use Tena's when my husband is working a full work day, so I can be a

little more relaxed drinking then. I just started relying on them this past

year. It was hard getting used to the idea that I could " piddle " and not

worry about getting soiled / wet pants! LOL!

Angie

On 2005.04.11 13:06, TWEETYROLL88@... wrote:

> Hmmmm...I get about 100ozs a day! I get 80ozs through my jtube and drink

> about 20ozs a day. I drink 8ozs of Chocolate Soy Milk, 16ozs of Snapple

> Iced Tea, or a few juice boxes (lemon aid, grape juice, or strawberry

> juice)...Through my tube I get, Tolerex, V8 Splash Juice, water, and

> Miracle 2000 vitamin. I have noticed that I drink more since my jtube

> feedings. I also I don't have to worry about bathroom breaks because I use

> diapers. I didn't drink nearly enough before my jtube and was chronically

> dehydrated for 5+ years. Thank goodness for my jtube!!!!!!!

>

> MJ Purk

>

> 17, SMA I+

> “Be true! Be true! Be true! Show freely to the world, if not your worst,

> yet some trait whereby the worst may be inferred!†~ iel

> Hawthorne's “ The Scarlet Letterâ€

>

> http://www.caringbridge.com/ny/mjpurk - My Journal

>

> http://www.our-sma-angels.com/Margaret/ - My Original Website

>

> http://www.mjthesmaqueen.com/ - My New Website

>

> http://www.our-sma-angels.com/b4sma/ - My Organization's Site

>

> http://www3.caringbridge.org/ny/b4sma/ - My Organization's Update Site

[Guest guest]

i drink coke, juices and tea. but mainly coke. usualy liter or 1,5 per day

drinking

All this talk about water had me thinking, what does everybody here

drink...and how much fluid do you get in a day? I struggle to get in 700cc of

fluid,

and at this point its soda. I just can't seem to even tolerate a lot of

fluid,

even thru my g/j tube. It makes me feel full and sick. I go thru phases it

seems. One month its soda, the next tea, etc...but never water.

So I was just curious.

Kimi

[Guest guest]

I put the entire pills inside chewed food and then swallow. I don't even cut

them and still it works great. Like you, liquid just goes around and leaves the

yucky tasting pill in my throat.

Taya

Re: drinking

At 02:23 AM 4/11/2005, you wrote:

>g-tubes who say you drink very little; how do you swallow food? Does it

>just go down? Mine seems to stick in my esophagus unless I wash it down

>with liquid.

food goes down better for me without liquid. in fact, liquid slips past

food and chokes me. when taking pills, i cut them small, chew my food,

then add pill to chewed food before i swallow. liquid just goes around

pills. yuck.

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[Guest guest]

I drink one or two (max) scandishakes (8 ozs whole milk) and maybe a

small can of soda (8 ozs) on a work day .....a little more on the

weekends when I don't have to worry about bathroom access. So, not enough!

I do have some good news....after a long time of not weighting cuz I

kept staying at 65 lbs. I discovered last week that I gained 18 lbs.! I

am now 83 lbs. (the most I've ever been). I was getting nervous that I

was lossing cuz I haven't been eating right....wrong!

L

Ksmile96@... wrote:

> All this talk about water had me thinking, what does everybody here

> drink...and how much fluid do you get in a day? I struggle to get in

> 700cc of fluid,

> and at this point its soda. I just can't seem to even tolerate a lot

> of fluid,

> even thru my g/j tube. It makes me feel full and sick. I go thru

> phases it

> seems. One month its soda, the next tea, etc...but never water.

> So I was just curious.

> Kimi

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

congratulations on the 18 lbs! i'd love to get up to 60.

At 04:20 PM 4/12/2005, you wrote:

>I drink one or two (max) scandishakes (8 ozs whole milk) and maybe a

>small can of soda (8 ozs) on a work day .....a little more on the

>weekends when I don't have to worry about bathroom access. So, not enough!

>

>I do have some good news....after a long time of not weighting cuz I

>kept staying at 65 lbs. I discovered last week that I gained 18 lbs.! I

>am now 83 lbs. (the most I've ever been). I was getting nervous that I

>was lossing cuz I haven't been eating right....wrong!

>

>L

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[Guest guest]

I was trying to gain weight at the end of last year. I gained 9 pounds

before leaving NY. I am still gaining and gained 9 more since January

for a total of 18 lbs gain, also. I'm now 93 pounds, the most I've

been as well. The hard part is maintaining! I can't find the medium

where I'm eating enough to not lose weight but not too much to keep

gaining.

-K

> >I drink one or two (max) scandishakes (8 ozs whole milk) and maybe a

> >small can of soda (8 ozs) on a work day .....a little more on the

> >weekends when I don't have to worry about bathroom access. So, not

enough!

> >

> >I do have some good news....after a long time of not weighting cuz I

> >kept staying at 65 lbs. I discovered last week that I gained 18

lbs.! I

> >am now 83 lbs. (the most I've ever been). I was getting nervous that I

> >was lossing cuz I haven't been eating right....wrong!

> >

> >L

[Guest guest]

Wow to you!

thinks part of my weight gain is bone mass secondary to taking

fosamax for a couple of years. He may be right cuz I don't look that

much heavier.

L

Kendra wrote:

>

> I was trying to gain weight at the end of last year. I gained 9 pounds

> before leaving NY. I am still gaining and gained 9 more since January

> for a total of 18 lbs gain, also. I'm now 93 pounds, the most I've

> been as well. The hard part is maintaining! I can't find the medium

> where I'm eating enough to not lose weight but not too much to keep

> gaining.

>

> -K

>

>

> > >I drink one or two (max) scandishakes (8 ozs whole milk) and maybe a

> > >small can of soda (8 ozs) on a work day .....a little more on the

> > >weekends when I don't have to worry about bathroom access. So, not

> enough!

> > >

> > >I do have some good news....after a long time of not weighting cuz I

> > >kept staying at 65 lbs. I discovered last week that I gained 18

> lbs.! I

> > >am now 83 lbs. (the most I've ever been). I was getting nervous that I

> > >was lossing cuz I haven't been eating right....wrong!

> > >

> > >L

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Hi Deb,

Even most Dr's would say an occassional glass won't hurt you, but don't make a habit of it.

Teri

drinking

what is the verdict on drinking, like wine, with hepc?

[Guest guest]

Yeah, that's a big no no. That was the first thing my liver

specialist said to me. " Do you drink? " I said occasionally. She

said stop, no more. And that was the last I saw of my

s beer. LOL

>

> what is the verdict on drinking, like wine, with hepc?

>

[Guest guest]

This is so true. Alcohol is the worst thing that you can drink , especially if the liver is already at risk. I loved to drink, but I had to put it down when I found out that I had HepC. Aziz <ka227@...> wrote: I don't care what anyone else says, but absolutely do not drink any alcohol at all. There are no studies that show that drinking alcohol when you have hep C is benign. Alcohol is a poison that your liver fights to detoxify and even people without Hep C damage their liver when they drink. There are many, many cases of people who die from drinking because their liver fails. Please do research on this on the Internet or get some books from the library on Hep C. I know not a single one will recommend drinking any amount of alcohol.delynn2211 <delynn2211@...> wrote: what is the verdict on drinking, like wine, with hepc?

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Personally, I was a lush or a piss-tank until I went to those meetings. Then I learned to say my name and proudly identify myself as an alcoholic!!! I could then identify how to put the twelve steps and traditions to use in my life and become much more the person I wanted to be and better than the one in my fantasies at the bottom of a glass. It has also helped me cope with this chronic illness and be able to turn my negative thinking over to my Higher Power. In the end, my life or death is quite simply not up to me...From: "Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th. D." <walter_scheu@...> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:08:50 AMSubject: [ ] Drinking

I personally was not an alcoholic.I was a ""DRUNK"" I did not got to meetngs From our home to your home, we pray and speak blessings, success and prosperity.Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th.D.RCFC

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[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry to hear of your situation. When we change something about

ourselves, for the good or the worse, it affects other people too. You're using

this " drinking " to cope with things the best way you can, but it's to your

detriment, know what I mean? And that's contrary to why you lost the weight in

the first place, to become more healthy. You'll have to decide the best way to

handle this by figuring out what is most important to you. I think you should

probably get some professional support via a therapist. You need to build up

your self-esteem so you'll begin to consider yourself important enough to fight

for. When you get that sorted out, you'll know the right action/direction to

take for your well-being and that of your family. Losing a home is not the worst

that could happen; you'll do whatever you have to for everyone's best interest.

You have to cut the man loose, you know that. So when you're ready, you'll do

it. In the meantime, find a therapist to help you sort all this out.

Prayers and love to you all.

>

> Hi all,

> First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and

> still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot

> 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

> Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking

> (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my

> husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and

> now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for

> Florida and can't get a job with then again.

> Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what  would have said

> before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that

> don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write " just leave " , It's

> not all about me. Thanks,

>

> G

>

[Guest guest]

Just like you needed help with your food addiction maybe you should get help for this addiction.

From: gay hooks <gdwh1@...>Subject: drinking Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 5:24 PM

Hi all,

First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for Florida and can't get a job with then again.

Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write "just leave", It's not all about me. Thanks, G

[Guest guest]

I feel so very bad for you. There are a million things I am think right now and want to say. I want you to know that there are ways for you to feel better about yourself. First find some kind of support group for YOU--not anyone else. It will take you awhile to figure out what you want to do. Right now you think you need him. The truth is you have to get your own head on straight. I understand the need to be able to support yourself.

First drinking is just a form of self medication. I don't know if you have any health insurance, but if you do then go see a doctor and see about some kind of counseling for yourself. You have a million things that you are trying to deal with. The first one is to stop drinking so that you can think with a clear head.

I can only speak for myself and I got to the point where I cared enough about myself and made the ex leave. He had an affair too. I have been down your road. I worked 3 jobs for a lot of years, but I kept my home and I made him pay child support. When I have more time, I will write more. Right now I am in another city moving things out of my Dad's house who passed away last month.

I think maybe there are some things that I can suggest that will help. But, first I want you to get some help for your drinking. You will never get out of this mess while you are drinking. If you want something bad enough you can do it promise you!

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 7/30/2010 1:25:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gdwh1@... writes:

Hi all,

First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for Florida and can't get a job with then again.

Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write "just leave", It's not all about me. Thanks, G

[Guest guest]

Gay,I'm so sorry you are going through this!! How horrible. I know it seems like a simple answer, but go to treatment. Really, truly, go to treatment. My husband went through this 11 years ago. We were able to find an awesome treatment center that "treated" both people in the relationship. If you were married or dating an alcoholic, you were required to come with them. It was amazing and awesome and I can't say enough about this amazing treatment center -Whole Person Recovery in Bismarck, ND. We went to group meetings 2 times a week for 2-3 hrs each time and it changed our lives, my husband was able to see the alcohol for what it was and stop drinking, it has been 11 years now he has been sober. When I attended the classes I learned so much about him and

alcoholism, it was life changing. After treatment we continued to see the counselor for martial issues that would come up, again, life changing! I can't say enough about them. I'm so grateful that I no longer turn to food and he no longer turns to alcohol. I agree, leaving your husband isn't always the "clear" ticket to adultery although it has to seem that way. If you aren't able to go to treatment then start going to AA. Find some kind of support system to help get you out of this. It is hard to find the right AA group, you can't go to one and think "this isn't going to help" and quite. Keep "shopping" for the right group that can help you, and then COMMIT to keep going. I will be praying for your family, for healing to take place, and a way for you to deal with the issues that food used to cover up.Please let us know how you are and how you are dealing with all

this. Cyrena DOBand: 1/19/07240/138/150start/now/goalFrom: gay hooks <gdwh1@...> Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 12:24:12 PMSubject: drinking

Hi all,

First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for Florida and can't get a job with then again.

Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write "just leave", It's not all about me. Thanks, G

[Guest guest]

Here is my experience.

Granger and I had the surgery on the same

day (April 28th 2009). I had loved her so much before the surgery that it

wasn't funny(and still do to this day), but I always felt that I wasn't good

enough. When we both started loosing weight I looked at her in the mornings

like she was going to leave me every day because she was so much better looking

than me. This wasn't improved by some other people that worked with the both of

us constantly telling me that I wasn't good enough for her since she was

loosing weight. I progressively started drinking worse and worse until I had a

break down about my grandfather and grandmother, they were my parents, chewing

my ass out for something unrelated that Granger and I split permanently. I have

since moved away from the city that we lived in. I have since lived sober and

am enjoying life once again, yes I am now taking anti depressants and other

meds, but I don't look at that as wrong. They have kept me from driving myself

into hell. I have also had private counseling since two weeks after our separation,

help from AA didn't help one bit, I don't think that Granger and I will ever be

back together, but I do love her still. Reconciliation is a distant dream. I

think that the surgery separated us more than anything, just because of

jealously! You have to watch out for that! Also drinking affects you so

differently after the surgery that you have to watch it in a huge way!

Be prepared that alcohol does become

addictive for people in our situation! And I mean very addictive!

Cheers!

-Linn

From:

[mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Jackie Bragg

Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:52

PM

To:

Subject: Re: drinking

Just like you needed help with your food addiction

maybe you should get help for this addiction.

From: gay hooks <gdwh1 >

Subject: drinking

Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 5:24 PM

Hi all,

First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and

started at 235 now at 150 and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want

30 more gone)and I am 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

Problem now is with out having food to turn to I

have now turned to drinking (and have had many problems from that). I started

drinking when my husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with

his bosses boss (female)and now has not had a job in 2 years because he is

black balled with the state for Florida and can't get a job with then again.

Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is

what would have said before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not

me and have two children that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't

write " just leave " , It's not all about me.

Thanks,

G

[Guest guest]

Dear G.,

You're right.. Simply leaving ur husband will not fix your issue. In fact, it

may very well aggravate it due to the financial stress and continued unhappiness

that u will likely experience if u do. That said...the issue is much deeper and

change must come from within. I see a couple of big things here.

First... There is no good excuse for your husband to go to college at your

(combined?) expense and then not work for two years. Black balled? He's got a

very inflated opinion of himself if he is convinced that everyone at every

company in the state of Florida that has a job he is qualified to do cares who

he's slept with.. and still two years later they're all still talking about it?

I call BS. If he wants to work, he'll find a job. If he's got a degree, he can

get a decent job. If he's feeling sorry for himself, is lazy, or a coward, he'll

make excuses and create conspiracy theories about being black balled by the

entire state. Don't sell yourself short and don't buy into the hype. He ain't

all that. Get my drift? Forgive my bluntness, but I'm saying this with nothing

but love and compassion for a fellow woman and mother. I'm 32 and a single mom

with two young children. I work full time and I'm almost done with nursing

school. I do it on my own. At 18 I married a cheating man who has never, to this

day, held down any kind of job. For me, divorce was a blessing.

Second thing... My guess is that you are probably depressed. There is most

likely more to the the depression than just the blow of your husband's

infidelity and subsequent economic difficulty. Sure you resent that you put him

through school and he repaid you by screwing around and screwing things up at a

good job. Maybe you feel trapped in your marriage because you don't want your

children to resent you for leaving their dad. No one but you can answer why

you're so unhappy that you are killing yourself. First with food.. now with

alcohol. Get some counseling.. whether it be through your church or a counseling

center or AA or a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist... get it. Be honest with

them and yourself. If you want to make your marriage work, demand that your

husband go and do the same. Stop making excuses for him. If you love him, see

him honestly.. not through beer goggles. If he loves you he will put forth the

effort to save your marriage and possibly your life. On a side note.. if he's

cheated once, he's probably cheated more than once. I'm guessing the reason you

know about the affair with his boss' boss is because he got fired for it. You

know because he had to tell you. I only say that because you should be prepared

to possibly hear that if you get counseling together.

You said you've been married to your husband for 25 years and you don't want

your kids to lose their home. How old are your kids? School age? Teens? Young

Adults? If they're adults and capable of supporting themselves and are beginning

their own families, they really shouldn't be a big factor in what you want. You

shouldn't lay down every night next to a person every night unless that's where

you really want to be. Everybody else be darned. Period. And that's something

you and your husband both probably need to really examine.

>

> Hi all,

> First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and

> still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot

> 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

> Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking

> (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my

> husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and

> now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for

> Florida and can't get a job with then again.

> Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what  would have said

> before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that

> don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write " just leave " , It's

> not all about me. Thanks,

>

> G

>

[Guest guest]

This is what I meant when I said that when we make big life changes (even for

the better) for ourselves, it affects those around us. This is kind of what I

was talking about in your situation. Sometimes it's just time for a change.

People come into our lives for a reason or a season and some to stay throughout.

But we also change as individuals and then as couples. You grow together or you

grow apart. Sorry you had to go through all this, but it was probably for the

best in the end.

>

>

> From: gay hooks <gdwh1@...>

> Subject: drinking

>

> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 5:24 PM

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150

> and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am

> 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

>

> Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking

> (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my husband

> for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and now

> has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for

> Florida and can't get a job with then again.

>

> Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said

> before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children

> that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write " just leave " ,

> It's not all about me.

>

> Thanks,

> G

>

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I never post .. I may write this and delete.. who knows? Here Goes ...

It is WELL known many WLS People regardless of the surgery CROSS ADDICT! If some one brings there concerns here ... THIS IS A SUPPORT PAGE... speaking of there pain.. hurt, needing help... I commend them.. God Bless them! I have seen so many offer kind words and hope and support to a Soul who is scared and hurting.. The "kind" in all of you.. SHOWS ! So many great people here so supportive.

I know a few people that have cross addicted. I have seen and read about it numerous times. I am also a member of ObesityHelp.com for over 10 years. I have witnessed MANY cross addictions there when people have WLS.. It would enlighten many of you and may help you help others by reading about cross addiction.The why's, how's.. and all the medical proof.

Listed are a few articles.When some one is down,hurting and are troubled .. they don't need a kick in the seat.. they need a kind,listening heart with some support and hope..God bless all of you that offered just that on this topic.. and other topics as well.

http://www.weightlosssurgerychannel.com/tag/transfer-addiction/

http://www.helpstartshere.org/mind-and-spirit/addictions/addiction-tip-sheet-addiction-and-weight-loss-surgery-a-social-workers-perspective.html

http://www.azcentral.com/health/diet/articles/0718wsj-addiction-transfer18-ON.html

http://www.obesityaction.org/magazine/ywm20/wlsandeatingdisorders.php

http://www.soberrecovery.com/articles/307.html

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I AGREE so much with everything she said. One last thing "we do teach people how to treat us." So stand up and be a big girl and get some hel

In a message dated 7/31/2010 11:09:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ipani2000@... writes:

Dear G., You're right.. Simply leaving ur husband will not fix your issue. In fact, it may very well aggravate it due to the financial stress and continued unhappiness that u will likely experience if u do. That said...the issue is much deeper and change must come from within. I see a couple of big things here. First... There is no good excuse for your husband to go to college at your (combined?) expense and then not work for two years. Black balled? He's got a very inflated opinion of himself if he is convinced that everyone at every company in the state of Florida that has a job he is qualified to do cares who he's slept with.. and still two years later they're all still talking about it? I call BS. If he wants to work, he'll find a job. If he's got a degree, he can get a decent job. If he's feeling sorry for himself, is lazy, or a coward, he'll make excuses and create conspiracy theories about being black balled by the entire state. Don't sell yourself short and don't buy into the hype. He ain't all that. Get my drift? Forgive my bluntness, but I'm saying this with nothing but love and compassion for a fellow woman and mother. I'm 32 and a single mom with two young children. I work full time and I'm almost done with nursing school. I do it on my own. At 18 I married a cheating man who has never, to this day, held down any kind of job. For me, divorce was a blessing. Second thing... My guess is that you are probably depressed. There is most likely more to the the depression than just the blow of your husband's infidelity and subsequent economic difficulty. Sure you resent that you put him through school and he repaid you by screwing around and screwing things up at a good job. Maybe you feel trapped in your marriage because you don't want your children to resent you for leaving their dad. No one but you can answer why you're so unhappy that you are killing yourself. First with food.. now with alcohol. Get some counseling.. whether it be through your church or a counseling center or AA or a Psychologist or a Psychiatrist... get it. Be honest with them and yourself. If you want to make your marriage work, demand that your husband go and do the same. Stop making excuses for him. If you love him, see him honestly.. not through beer goggles. If he loves you he will put forth the effort to save your marriage and possibly your life. On a side note.. if he's cheated once, he's probably cheated more than once. I'm guessing the reason you know about the affair with his boss' boss is because he got fired for it. You know because he had to tell you. I only say that because you should be prepared to possibly hear that if you get counseling together. You said you've been married to your husband for 25 years and you don't want your kids to lose their home. How old are your kids? School age? Teens? Young Adults? If they're adults and capable of supporting themselves and are beginning their own families, they really shouldn't be a big factor in what you want. You shouldn't lay down every night next to a person every night unless that's where you really want to be. Everybody else be darned. Period. And that's something you and your husband both probably need to really examine. >> Hi all,> First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and > still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot > 5inch's. So that has been a great success!> Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking > (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my > husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and > now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for > Florida and can't get a job with then again.> Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said > before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that > don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write "just leave", It's > not all about me. Thanks, > > G>

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I remember meeting you when you were there. I am so very proud of what you wrote. You are doing something that is amazing right now and it is all about you.! I wish you the very best and there really is a wonderful lady out there waiting just for YOU!

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 7/31/2010 11:11:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lboyd@... writes:

Here is my experience.

Granger and I had the surgery on the same day (April 28th 2009). I had loved her so much before the surgery that it wasn't funny(and still do to this day), but I always felt that I wasn't good enough. When we both started loosing weight I looked at her in the mornings like she was going to leave me every day because she was so much better looking than me. This wasn't improved by some other people that worked with the both of us constantly telling me that I wasn't good enough for her since she was loosing weight. I progressively started drinking worse and worse until I had a break down about my grandfather and grandmother, they were my parents, chewing my ass out for something unrelated that Granger and I split permanently. I have since moved away from the city that we lived in. I have since lived sober and am enjoying life once again, yes I am now taking anti depressants and other meds, but I don't look at that as wrong. They have kept me from driving myself into hell. I have also had private counseling since two weeks after our separation, help from AA didn't help one bit, I don't think that Granger and I will ever be back together, but I do love her still. Reconciliation is a distant dream. I think that the surgery separated us more than anything, just because of jealously! You have to watch out for that! Also drinking affects you so differently after the surgery that you have to watch it in a huge way!

Be prepared that alcohol does become addictive for people in our situation! And I mean very addictive!

Cheers!

-Linn

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Jackie BraggSent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: drinking

Just like you needed help with your food addiction maybe you should get help for this addiction.

From: gay hooks <gdwh1 >Subject: drinking Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 5:24 PM

Hi all,

First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for Florida and can't get a job with then again.

Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what would have said before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write "just leave", It's not all about me.

Thanks, G

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Gay,

I'm sorry to hear that you are going through this.

I have read all of the responses to your situation so far, agree with them all

and I hope that you take each and every one of them to heart. I won't lie and

say that I can relate to anything that you are going through (heck - I'm not

even sleeved yet, so not EVEN that!). What I can tell you is my experience as a

child growing up in a home where my parents stayed together " for the kids " ....

I was 16 when my parents decided to split. They never fought around us - were

never " together " enough to fight really and when they did, it was kept private,

which made it even more of a shock thinking everything was fine. I was upset

and had a hard time dealing with it and was mad at my parents for putting me

through this.

It wasn't until I was about 25 when I finally realized WHY all of my

relationships went south - it was because I never had a good " example " of what a

" good " relationship was. I wasn't being a productive partner in any of my

relationships because " normal " to me was to live seperate lives and spend as

little time together as possible. Then I was upset with my parents for staying

together so long!

When you think about what is best for your children, take this into

consideration as another point of view. Sometimes staying together isn't the

best thing. I was lucky enough to have my " lightbulb moment " early on in my

life and am now married to a wonderful hubby. I have to say, though....I am so

nervous about having this surgery and it changing everything. I've thought a

lot about it and it is scary, almost to the point that if anything would make me

back-out, it would be just that.

Good luck to you,

Krista

>

> Hi all,

> First I want to say I was sleeved August 08 and started at 235 now at 150 and

> still loosing a pound or so a month(still want 30 more gone)and I am 5foot

> 5inch's. So that has been a great success!

> Problem now is with out having food to turn to I have now turned to drinking

> (and have had many problems from that). I started drinking when my

> husband for 25 years told me he had an affair with his bosses boss (female)and

> now has not had a job in 2 years because he is black balled with the state for

> Florida and can't get a job with then again.

> Yes I know most people would say leave him (which is what  would have said

> before it hit home)But I put him Thur school not me and have two children that

> don' t want to loss there home. So please don't write " just leave " , It's

> not all about me. Thanks,

>

> G

>