low blood sugar

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You're funny !

Would you please trim your messages. This is a very active group and it

saves precious space. Thanks.

Shirley

>From: " lkpetrolino " <lkpetrolino@...>

>I'm just curious on thoughts, but please don't think I'm some sort of

>banana shooting, fruit-a-holic

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I am thinking of someone else, sorry. I'm

assuming when you say UC that you are referring to

Ulcerative Colitis? If that is the case, this is also

caused by candida and/or a weakened immune system.

I do not believe you will cure your candida with

fruits in your diet. The fact that your weight hasn't

normalized and you still have UC makes me believe that

you still have candida and/or a weakened immune

system.

Regardless of your weight, I would cut out the fruit,

and then I would suggest you have high quantities of

oil, especially oils like olive oil which tends to put

on weight in some people, and lots of protein and fat.

Continue to eat more meat and fat. Do not worry about

your calorie level or ratios. If you are still

hungry, then you should still be eating. When your

blood sugar gets low, eat some more.

If you are adding fruit to gain weight and to avoid

hunger, that is the wrong thing to add. Protein will

add the right kind of weight to you, like muscle, and

is used for repairing tissues, and only in great

excess is converted to glucose.

You say you are eating fruit because it helps you eat

less protein and fat, but clearly your body wants more

protein and fat if you are still hungry.

Your body wants calories, your blood sugar is low, and

you are giving it a food that is going to make your

blood sugar sky rocket, then plummet, and feed your

candida and make the issue worse. Your blood sugar is

on a rollercoaster with that fruit.

Does that make sense? If you are underweight, I would

not recommend limiting calories, I would recommend you

eat as much as you can stuff into your face,

especially protein and fat. I do believe you are

keeping your body from healing big time with the

fruit.

I also have issues with blood sugar, it's just that

the symptoms are the exact opposite for me and I gain

lots of weight. But the blood sugar issues are the

flip side of the same coin. I can tell you that I was

ravenous morning noon and night before I got into low

carb 12 years ago.

A typical lunch for me would be 2 foot-long subway

sandwiches, 2 large cookies, 2 bags of chips, 2

containers of orange juice, and then after that meal I

wouldn't really feel full, and I'd eat again after a

few hours. I ate more than any person I'd met. I

could easilly eat 4 or 5 snickers bars in a sitting.

I was 310 pounds at the time, not even at my highest.

The hunger was just insatiable and unquenchable.

Thanks goodness I found out about low carb. But then

I kept eating junk low carb food that would leave my

blood sugar sporadic. When I would eat fruit I would

be thrown off my even keel every time. The last time

I tried fruit was in July, with some strawberries.

It threw my blood sugar for a big loop and I was

ravenous again. Had to eat tons of meat and fat to

get through that. Even a little cheat will take me

weeks to get over and feel back to normal. But now

I'm able to stop at a normal time with my eating (well

almost normal - normal for my size I suppose).

I often forget to eat, because hunger is not an issue.

When I do get hungry, I can tell it's real hunger as

opposed to my blood sugar is low, must eat to spike it

again.

Good luck, hope that helps some.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- lkpetrolino <lkpetrolino@...> wrote:

>

> no,no, you must be thinking of someone else, I am

> already very slim

> 75# on a muscular 5'4'' frame, I have uc so have had

> to work to get

> to this weight, hard for me to keep on weight. I

> eat alot of protien

> and fat and this was actually what the discussion

> was to start with

> for me. I can't just eat 3 meals a day, first and

> foremost because I

> am so small and need so much protien and fat to keep

> me going that I

> simply can't eat enough in three meals and it will

> flat out make me

> sick. I eat a bit of fruit because it helps me need

> a little bit

> less protien and fat. of course, biochemically you

> know why.....I am

> sure the UC puts me at a disadvatage here since my

> body is constantly

> fighting a catabolic state. So part of the reason I

> eat often in

> because of fear of my blood sugar dropping and part

> of it is because

> my stomach is small and I seem to be not able to eat

> enough if I

> don't.

>

> Does this make sense? I worry that it is preventing

> me from fully

> healing but am a little confused how to deal with

> it, without starving

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

I eat four small meals a day and if I'm hungry, I eat more. Bee recommends

fewer meals so your digestive tract isn't constantly working (and has a

chance to rest) among other things. I usually stay within the recommended

ratios without even trying but if I do go over I don't feel like it's that

big of a deal. I'm in this for the long haul and I do my best.

I'm curious , do you use olive oil? Because if you are having a hard

time keeping weight on olive oil will help with this.

Shirley

>From: " lkpetrolino " <lkpetrolino@...>

>Regardless of the fruit issue, what I am asking

>is that I find it interesting that everyone eats three meals a day

>and doesn't have a problem with this, since actually when I haven't

>eaten fruit I have had to eat more often than I do with just a bit.

>I simply cannot eat enough in three meals, hunger is less of an issue

>than needing fuel, even when following this exact diet with these

>exact recommended ratios?

>

>

[Guest guest]

ok, that makes me feel better, I do use small amounts of olive oil,

frankly I do much better with saturated fats so perfer to use them.

I only really use olive oil when I make my homemade mayo, I think I

need the lethicin in the egg yolk to digest it properly. I really do

well with ghee

>

> I eat four small meals a day and if I'm hungry, I eat more. Bee

recommends

> fewer meals so your digestive tract isn't constantly working (and

has a

> chance to rest) among other things. I usually stay within the

recommended

> ratios without even trying but if I do go over I don't feel like

it's that

> big of a deal. I'm in this for the long haul and I do my best.

>

> I'm curious , do you use olive oil? Because if you are having

a hard

> time keeping weight on olive oil will help with this.

>

> Shirley

>

> >From: " lkpetrolino " <lkpetrolino@...>

> >Regardless of the fruit issue, what I am asking

> >is that I find it interesting that everyone eats three meals a day

> >and doesn't have a problem with this, since actually when I haven't

> >eaten fruit I have had to eat more often than I do with just a bit.

> >I simply cannot eat enough in three meals, hunger is less of an

issue

> >than needing fuel, even when following this exact diet with these

> >exact recommended ratios?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Hi ,

I am a lurker on the Healing Crow site so I recognize you. Maybe you could

mention the SCD diet. Elaine Gottschall's diet from her book " Breaking the

Vicious Cycle "

I've actually been curious to hear if Bee has heard of it and what she

thinks. Since I heard about her on that list, I assumed that people here

would have heard about her and her diet.

I followed that diet last year along with taking Sporonox for 12 weeks. I

honestly haven't felt so good in 25 years as I felt during that time. I

felt that the only issue was not staying on it long enough since I've been

sick since my early 20's (I'm now 46). I 've been searching for the magic

bullet almost all this time.

I've explored lyme disease as one reason why I don't seem to be able to

sustain good health, as well as heavy metal toxicity, thyroid disease etc.

If I have Lyme disease, for instance, will this diet cure me or do I still

need to go on the massive a ABX regimen that they follow?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

of course I have candida everyone with IBD does that is not a

question. UC is not just something you get rid of though so that is

not an issue.

One thing I am not a 'newbie' per say even though I haven't been on

this website for long so..............just so you know......

I actually am on a low carb diet, when I eat fruit I eat such a small

amount it would be equal to the amount of veggies I eat at a meal. for

example today I ate 1/4 of a small grapefruit about 4-5 gram carb, I

probably still eat around the reccommended carb level for this diet.

Are you recommending I go even lower carb, less than 20 gram a day

perhaps?

Thanks for all of your help on this

[Guest guest]

I don't really follow scd though, I actually think scd advocates too

many nuts and way too much fruit and carbs. But it would be helpful if

the basic diet was outlined would you mind doing it

[Guest guest]

Having a hard time finding the adrenal fatigue article and the Fructose

article

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Would you please sign your name to the end of your posts? Not only

does it let us know who you are, but we have a blind group member who

" hears " the posts and your name would indicate to her that the post

has concluded. Thanks in advance.

Now to your qeustions: The adrenal info is the first article in the

" Treatments " folder. I'm not sure which one you mean when you say the

" Fructose " article. There are articles in the Files about the dangers

of sugar. Fructose info could be in an article about Fruit. If you go

to the Files section of the group website, the second folder has a

handy list of all of the files. Just use your web browsers Edit=>Find

function to search through the list.

hope that helps,

jackie

>

> Having a hard time finding the adrenal fatigue article and the Fructose

> article

>

[Guest guest]

>

> no problem I'm asking for assistance and people are trying to give

me

> answers, just wanting to clarify, my position. Just so you know I

> have only been on your forum for a short time, yet the diet I have

> followed is exactly like this one, using exactly the same fats,

good quality meats, ect.

==>I find it hard to believe you've been on exactly the same diet

unless you've been eating The Optimal Diet at:

http://homodiet.netfirms.com/ by Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, because this

diet is very high in fats (about 66%), and that is what may be

causing you problems with needing fruit. See my article How to

Successfully Overcome Candida for the ratios of protein to fats to

carbs, and the Candida Diet Folder for more details on how to

calculate your ratios on a spreadsheet, using www.fitday.com as a

source.

==>Members here are taking spoonfuls of good fats, i.e. butter,

coconut oil, etc. when they flag or feel they need a boost in energy,

etc. Most candida sufferers have low or malfunctioning adrenals

which are mistaken as low blood sugar and/or thyroid issues because

candida toxins make all of the body's cells go rigid and this

interferes with nutrients, hormones, etc. getting into the cells

where they are needed, and also means the cells cannot get rid of

waste like they should. Maybe review my article so you will

understand how this works.

==>To increase adrenal function see the Adrenal Malfunction Folder,

or it may be in the Treatment Folder. I don't have time to check.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All, Hi ,

==>Hi . Welcome to our group.

>

> I am a lurker on the Healing Crow site so I recognize you. Maybe

you could mention the SCD diet. Elaine Gottschall's diet from her

book " Breaking the Vicious Cycle "

>

> I've actually been curious to hear if Bee has heard of it and what

shethinks. Since I heard about her on that list, I assumed that

people here would have heard about her and her diet.

==>I am very familiar with SCD Diet, and that's why many people from

that group have joined here. That is because the SCD diet allows

foods that feed candida, and they don't know how damaging many foods

are.

>

> I followed that diet last year along with taking Sporonox for 12

weeks. I honestly haven't felt so good in 25 years as I felt during

that time. I felt that the only issue was not staying on it long

enough since I've been sick since my early 20's (I'm now 46). I 've

been searching for the magic bullet almost all this time.

==>As you've probably discovered there is no magic bullet,

unfortunately. It takes hard work, consistency and time to cure

candida and many other diseases. My diet is actually a healing diet,

that's why I'm setting up my own website about healing naturally

using this diet.

>

> I've explored lyme disease as one reason why I don't seem to be

able to sustain good health, as well as heavy metal toxicity, thyroid

disease etc.

==>Lyme disease can only occur if you have a depressed immune system,

and that's why this program is so good for it because it builds up

the immune system. Thyroid disease goes hand in hand with candida

and other diseases. Candida toxins actually make all of the body's

cells go rigid so it interferes with hormones getting into them,

along with nutrients, etc., and it also interferes with the body

making hormones. But I recommend treating the cause and not the

symptoms, which is a depressed immune system.

==>Also this diet chelates out heavy metals quite nicely, mainly

because of the high nature-made fats.

>

> If I have Lyme disease, for instance, will this diet cure me or do

I still need to go on the massive a ABX regimen that they follow?

==>This program will definitely help if you follow it long enough and

consistently enough. Please ensure you read my main article

thoroughly first " How to Successfully Overcome Candida. "

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

> ok, that makes me feel better, I do use small amounts of olive oil,

> frankly I do much better with saturated fats so perfer to use them.

==>Please review my article where it discussed good and bad fats,

because you should be eliminating all man-made fats except extra virgin

olive oil.

> I only really use olive oil when I make my homemade mayo, I think I

> need the lethicin in the egg yolk to digest it properly. I really do

well with ghee.

==>What do you mean you " need the lethicin in the egg yolk to digest it

properly? "

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

> of course I have candida everyone with IBD does that is not a

> question. UC is not just something you get rid of though so that is

not an issue.

==>What is UC?

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Having a hard time finding the adrenal fatigue article and the

Fructose article

==>Hi. The Fructose articles are on Dr. Mercola's website: go to

www.mercola.com - and using his search engine search using " fructose " -

there are many many articles about the dangers of it and how it goes

so quickly into the system it spikes up insulin production, etc.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have suffered with low blood sugar for many years and also had to eat

every 2-3 hours. After following this diet strictly for about one month

I was able to cut back to 3 meals a day.

First, it is very important not to eat any fruit. I also found I had to

eat less protein than I used to eat and up the fat big time! I don't

use olive oil, only virgin coconut oil and a good organic butter.

It really helps to use the formula in the files to figure out what

amounts of protein, carbs, fats to consumer and than use fitday.com to

make sure you are staying in the limits. That is how I found I was

consuming too much protein.

I, too, work out daily (lifting weights and cardio) and found that my

energy did decrease for a while during the major die off phase, but it

is way up there now. Also, I have Bee's Egg Drink every morning an hour

or so before going to the Gym.

Hope this helps and I wish you the best of luck getting your blood sugar

under control.

[Guest guest]

I believe a diet like this one actually can heal UC although I can understand if

you don't believe that. I'm not recommending you go lower carb, actually the

opposite. There is a huge difference between many veggies and fruits and I'm

suggesting you choose wisely with them. I eat a huge amount of veggies each

day.

BUT, The veggies I choose are very high fiber, low sugar, high nutrition, and

they also have properties that heal candida. I do not believe all veggies and

fruits are equal. Fruits are high in sugar and low in fiber and nutritional

value when compared to many veggies.

The veggies I like the most are asparagus, cabbage, broccoli, kale, spinach,

garlic, lettuce, etc. These are high in nutritional content and fiber, very

filling, but not carby enough to cause problems with candida. They also contain

substances that actually kill candida.

With the fruit, its not just that it is a small amount or it is low carb. It

causes you to cotinue to crave sweets, and it continues to feed the candida. In

order to starve the candida, you need to take out ALL of the foods that feed

them.

Even if you are just having a little each day, that small amount is like

giving a treat to a rat each day and expecting your house to be pest free. Well

anyways that is my advice for what it's worth. I understand you have to make

your own decisions with this.

Just keep in mind that this is not your typical low carb diet for weight

loss.. this is a diet for curing candida and quality does count.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

lkpetrolino <lkpetrolino@...> wrote:

of course I have candida everyone with IBD does that is not a

question. UC is not just something you get rid of though so that is

not an issue.

I actually am on a low carb diet, when I eat fruit I eat such a small

amount it would be equal to the amount of veggies I eat at a meal. for

example today I ate 1/4 of a small grapefruit about 4-5 gram carb, I

probably still eat around the reccommended carb level for this diet.

Are you recommending I go even lower carb, less than 20 gram a day

perhaps?

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

i believe 2 common blood tests to see if the pancreas is sick are

amylase and lipase.

these wont show how well the pancreas helps regulate blood sugar

though. but some other blood tests can. for instance blood sugar level

(taken either randomly, fasting or after a sugar load is given).

the cbc measures red and white blood cell and platelet levels so only

will help assess pancreas function in indirect ways.

just my opinion,

hth,

cfsguy

>

> How do you find out if your pancreas is not working right? What

kind of

> test will you have to have?

>

> Dagmar

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is a lab test called " C-Peptide " . It is used to monitor insulin

production by the beta cells in the pancreas and to help determine the cause

of hypoglycemia. It can determine how much insulin your pancreas is still

producing.

Patty

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of cfsguy

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:29 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: low blood sugar

i believe 2 common blood tests to see if the pancreas is sick are

amylase and lipase.

these wont show how well the pancreas helps regulate blood sugar

though. but some other blood tests can. for instance blood sugar level

(taken either randomly, fasting or after a sugar load is given).

the cbc measures red and white blood cell and platelet levels so only

will help assess pancreas function in indirect ways.

just my opinion,

hth,

cfsguy

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the help.

I have been eating peanut butter every few hours and i leave a jar right next

to the bed so i can take it when i feel sick. Fortunately, i have not

experienced any more severe attacks.

The endocrinologist i went to said it was just panic attacks and wanted me to

go get a second opinion on Lyme disease. when my LLMD found out about this from

the results he sent to her, she went ballistic and she wrote him a very nasty

but truthful letter. he never wrote back. the other day when i went to visit the

LLMD i asked if i could read the report from the endocrinologist. she gave me a

copy and i could not believe what he wrote. its like he didn't even listen to

me, he just wrote what he wanted. he wanted my case to fall under panic attacks

so he wrote symptoms that would pertain to that. however it was all lies. i wish

i could write a letter to this man or call him because i am very upset by his

report. he wrote that i never had sweating or shakiness. which is crazy because

right before i went to the doctor, i had a severe attack(written in my last post

June 1st) in which i was very shaky, sweaty, and pale. i could not believe the

doctor would dismiss me like

that. but i know it happens too often.

The other thing is, my mother really liked this doctor. i had a feeling right

away and i did not like him.(I've had bad feelings about the other doctors who

later dismissed my symptoms) After the doctor visit he drew blood, but said he

believed it was a panic attack and to start eating (sugar and flour) normally

again. i didn't listen but my mother believed him. she started to not believe my

complaints and it upset me so much. i was in pain, and no one would believe me.

the thing is when other doctors said it was all in my head or that i didn't have

Lyme disease, she believed the doctors instead of me. and she would start

dismissing my symptoms. i don't know how she will ever believe me, and i know

this is tough on her as well. i was so happy to get the letter from my LLMD

saying she did not believe the endocrinologist and she did not appreciate him

bringing confusion in the family. i couldn't wait for her to write back to my

mother because i knew she would not believe

the doctor. and my mother would then believe my symptoms again.

I know most Lyme patients have had to deal with people not believing them and

people thinking lymies are just complaining. but it is so hard because i feel

like i am fighting this disease alone.

Any words of advice would help a lot. Thank you again.

-Katy

[Guest guest]

Although those symptoms can be symptoms of many different things, she did check

her blood glucose & it was low. Also of note, if your doctor checks your blood

glucose (labs), it will more than likely be normal if you have been fasting as

you should have been w/ that type of lab. The drop in glucose is just related to

your body's reaction to something that you ate or drank that triggered an

over-reaction in insulin production.