Dreaming

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,

I'm taking Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, B6, folic acid, B12, and everything

that suggests but to tell you the truth I did not start dreaming until

I started taking the Kombucha tea fifteen minutes before taking the Myoplex

deluxe body building supplement this was to avoid diarrhea not to start

dreaming.

I think I can live with the dreams because I think I'm sleeping deeper

than I have in years. I still sleep for four hours and wake up for two

hours then sleep for another four hours this is normal for me and it lets

me get on the computer when I'm the only one that's awake hear. It is also

easier to find what your looking for when everyone else is asleep and I

also take orders for my business and I get to work a little bit on projects

that need to be done when its peaceful. I also answer my e-mail.

Raven

BU007@... wrote:

Hi Raven and everyone,

There seems to be a connection between dreaming and vitamin B6. B6 seems to

increase dreaming (or the remembering of dreams). There is a condition in

which a chemical, kryptopyrrole or mauve factor, builds up in some people and

binds with B6 making it unavailable. These people don't dream and extra B6 is

needed to enable them to dream.

B6 ties into thyroid diseases because it is involved in the metabolism of

zinc, cysteine, and glutathione. If it's true that hypers don't dream as much

as hypos (we'll have to see), then that would imply that hypers are using up

all of their B6 and hypos have extra B6 which is not being used. We know that

most hypos are deficient in zinc (and maybe cysteine) and therefore may not be

using much B6 to metabolize these two nutrients.

It would be interesting if B6 is the factor that is increasing dreaming in

Raven and others.

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[Guest guest]

: There seems to be a connection between dreaming and vitamin B6.

.........I haven't remembered dreams for years. It started with the -CFS

combo. I had a few dreams couple of weeks ago, it was so neat...

I am just now understanding how much my thyroid problem may have

affected the CFS or even started it. I have learned so much from this

list, thanks to all of you. Shirley

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GAILRONDA@... wrote:

> From: GAILRONDA@...

>

> Judith, a slave and a computer expert should be added to my list, too! And a

> reliable brain....then we'd be unstoppable!

> Gail

Ditto on the above you two! Since we're " wishin " I'd like to add a pile of

money to that list!!!!

Marcia

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Unless her brain has discovered a new way of sleeping, it's doubtful she dreams any more than anyone else. What she may be doing is waking up partially each time she dreams, so she recalls them. That often happens when beta production is problematic. Depending on what her assessment has shown you, you could try some C3/A1 beta and see what happens. (Does she awake feeling tired and have trouble getting up in the morning?)

I'd tell her to get a mini tape recorder or a note pad and write down her dreams (as much as she can recall). Tell her that perhaps her unconscious is trying to give her some information. If she pays attention to them (which she must be doing, if she can characterize them so well), perhaps she won't need to dream so strongly.

Pete

-----Original Message-----From: s [mailto:shellyj@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: dreaming

Hi Pete, many thanks for all your help!! I forgot to ask you a question however about a client of mine, who is doing quite well with the trainings, and she would like help with her dreams. She said that the content of her dreams are less “chaotic” and less “anxiety filled” with the tone training we have been doing, however she believes she dreams “constantly” and would like to dream less. Any ideas would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

There is something that happened to me that I am attributing to lyme but cant

say for sure. I would like to see if anyone else has experienced anything like

it. I was constructing a shed alone. As I was actively working, on my feet,

moving around etc., I started realizing I was slipping into mini dreams (dream

is a good discription of what it felt to me). I must of went in and out of this

state 2 or 3 times when I realized certain things couldn't have happened. For

instance, I *dreamed* the person I was building it for was there, on a ladder at

the other end, and we were discussing something about the roof. When I realized

this was entirely impossible, I sat down and tried to sort my thoughts out,

realizing a couple other scenarios that I *dreamed*. Needless to say I was a

little alarmed. I left and debated on going to the hospital all day, but never

went. That was a couple months ago. It was the first and only time I had

something like that happen. It hasn't happened again. Anyone ever experience

anything close to this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

    I don't doubt that your " dreams " were a result of the lyme. oops. sorry.

never told you who i was. i'm Cortney.

anyway, i have similar experiences like that. every once in a while i'll think

i'm talking to someone and they won't be there. i'll think there's someone

standing next to me, end up starting a converstion with them, and then when i

turn, i realize there's no one there. i realize that they're not even close to

me.

i think it is a result of the lyme because the lyme messes with your head. it

makes you lose concentration, gives you headaches, makes you dizzy, and i also

believes it makes you hallucinate a little. especially if you're having a herx

reaction or your lyme is flaring up.

i don't think that you having these " dreams " are anything unusual with lyme.

don't worry. you're not losing your mind. well, at least we hope the lyme isn't

making that so.

my suggestion is, if it happens again, go ahead and tell your doctor about it.

if it is a result of the lyme they'll tell you so or give you another

prescription for your lovely collection of meds. i think the worst they can do

is tell you to " go see someone " . but i've not had a doctor give me any worse

than that, so i honestly don't know what they'd do. i'm rambling. sorry. i'll

stop now. but that's what'd i'd do if i was you. you don't want to ignore the

brain stuff. its a sensitive part of our bodies and we need that organ.

take care and keep the faith!

Sincerely,

Cortney

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From: gajon12 <gajon12@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:45:25 AM

Subject: [ ] Dreaming

Hi All,

There is something that happened to me that I am attributing to lyme but cant

say for sure. I would like to see if anyone else has experienced anything like

it. I was constructing a shed alone. As I was actively working, on my feet,

moving around etc., I started realizing I was slipping into mini dreams (dream

is a good discription of what it felt to me). I must of went in and out of this

state 2 or 3 times when I realized certain things couldn't have happened. For

instance, I *dreamed* the person I was building it for was there, on a ladder at

the other end, and we were discussing something about the roof. When I realized

this was entirely impossible, I sat down and tried to sort my thoughts out,

realizing a couple other scenarios that I *dreamed*. Needless to say I was a

little alarmed. I left and debated on going to the hospital all day, but never

went. That was a couple months ago. It was the first and only time I had

something like that happen. It

hasn't happened again. Anyone ever experience anything close to this?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

gajon12 wrote:

> I was constructing a shed alone. . . . I *dreamed* the person I was building

> it for was there, on a ladder at the other end, and we were discussing

> something about the roof. . . .I realized this was entirely impossible

Dear ,

I haven't had exactly the kind of experience you describe but over the past

few years other people in online Lyme groups have described the same thing.

I've read some articles the author Amy Tan wrote about having Lyme Disease

and she speaks of hallucinating from Lyme Disease.

In my first year of this infection with Lyme Disease I experienced serious

alteration of my sleeping dreams. I was very familiar with my dreams from

having kept a dream journal for years.

When the Lyme symptoms progressed one of them was that my dreams all became

nightmares, which was not at all typical of my pattern of dreaming. They

also seemed very different from my experience of dreams for several decades,

as though I had started to experience someone else's dreams.

The most frightening thing for a short period of time was that I was not

able to turn off dreams completely when I was awake and walking around in my

active life. While I was engaged in activities in my waking state, part of

my brain was still experiencing bits of the nightmarish dream.

It was a terrifying experience. I thought I was losing my mind.

Back then I was beginning to take a combination of antibiotics that broke up

the cyst form and helped the nervous system symptoms diminish.

Hang in there!

Blue

[Guest guest]

What you describe sounds more like an hallucination than a dream to me -

but still pretty spooky. The only thing like it I've ever had were

actual nightmares. I have Babesia (clinically diagnosed) which used to

cause constant chills - day and night - like I had a fever (but my body

temp was normal). Well, almost every night I would wake up frequently

from scary, awful, " fever dream " nightmares. They were always about

different things, but always scary and upsetting. I imagine that lyme

prob " can " cause hallucinations - it seems able to affect every single

part of the body.

Don

gajon12 wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> There is something that happened to me that I am attributing to lyme but cant

say for sure. I would like to see if anyone else has experienced anything like

it. I was constructing a shed alone. As I was actively working, on my feet,

moving around etc., I started realizing I was slipping into mini dreams (dream

is a good discription of what it felt to me). I must of went in and out of this

state 2 or 3 times when I realized certain things couldn't have happened. For

instance, I *dreamed* the person I was building it for was there, on a ladder at

the other end, and we were discussing something about the roof. When I realized

this was entirely impossible, I sat down and tried to sort my thoughts out,

realizing a couple other scenarios that I *dreamed*. Needless to say I was a

little alarmed. I left and debated on going to the hospital all day, but never

went. That was a couple months ago. It was the first and only time I had

something like that happen. It hasn't happened

> again Anyone ever experience anything close to this?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello and thanks all for the responses to my question about *dreaming* on my

feet. They were helpful.

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[Guest guest]

I have been blessed to have good success with melatonin for sleeping

since 2003. My physician (Dr. Dantini) started me on 9 mg nightly

which I eventually weaned down to my current 3 mg at bedtime. However,

when I added Ultra-Cal Night by Source Naturals (which I order online) I

started dreaming, dreaming in color, and remembering my dreams. If I

have had to take a small dose of hydrocodone and soma for muscle pain

from my job aches, I have weird dreams, but not just from taking the

Ultra-Cal Night.

in La Selva Beach CA

On 4/29/2012 9:49 AM, Subdr wrote:

>

> I have been on 1mg of Klonopin and 5 mg of liquid sinequan (doxepin)

> for years and that has allowed me to sleep for at least the last 12

> years. I remember going for years without any dreaming.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi Group,

> > >

> > > I was thumbing through my last sleep study from 2010 and

> discovered something. This a split study so it took two nights. Both

> nights I showed only stage 1, 2 and 5 (rem) sleep. 3 and 4 never

> happened. I did a little research and found that these are the

> restorative phases of sleep when the immune system is activated and

> growth hormone is released which repairs cells. I am just a little

> (understatement) angry that a minimum of 8 doctors in 3 states have

> seen that study and not noticed that.

> > >

> > > I'm wondering if any of you have had the same result or similar

> when you had your sleep study? And if you did and your doctor actually

> noticed it, how are they treating you to compensate?

> > >

> > > Chardale Irvine

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Does Ultra Cal night make you sleep sounder?

S

On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Schmidt wrote:

> I have been blessed to have good success with melatonin for sleeping

> since 2003. My physician (Dr. Dantini) started me on 9 mg

> nightly

> which I eventually weaned down to my current 3 mg at bedtime. However,

> when I added Ultra-Cal Night by Source Naturals (which I order

> online) I

> started dreaming, dreaming in color, and remembering my dreams. If I

> have had to take a small dose of hydrocodone and soma for muscle pain

> from my job aches, I have weird dreams, but not just from taking the

> Ultra-Cal Night.

>

> in La Selva Beach CA

>

> On 4/29/2012 9:49 AM, Subdr wrote:

> >

> > I have been on 1mg of Klonopin and 5 mg of liquid sinequan (doxepin)

> > for years and that has allowed me to sleep for at least the last 12

> > years. I remember going for years without any dreaming.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >