Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Dear Amy, Thanks for the info. I love green tea but have not had it since this has happened. I will ask Dr. Goldman. She is very conservative and would tell me if she thinks it’s alright. [ ] Re: Green tea Again, there are different positions on this I'm sure! But the transplant clinic I go to said " no " to green tea and milk thistle, but I'm not sure if that is because I am on the list already or not. I can't remember the 'why " since I'd never had any before but I do remember them being quite adamant. Amy Group Rules 1. Please no religious, political, race or sexual preference discussions. 2. NO slamming of other members, advertising or vulgarity. Thank you! To UNsubscribe send a blank e-mail to -unsubscribeegroups Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 The tx clinic that I am going to says NO to green tea. Now, I'm not sure if that just when you are in the tx system or not. I believe I recall that the tea could be toxic but I can't remember how it is since I didn't drink it, I let that info slide by. Each dr. probably has their own opinion so they are the best ones to check with. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Does anyone have any experience with green tea extract? It's supposedly wonderful. Lynne _____________________________________________________________ Conserve wilderness with a click (free!) and get your own EcologyFund.net email (free!) at http://www.ecologyfund.com. _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@... w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I swear by it! Mine is caffeine-free and also has added red clover extract. I feel much better when I'm taking it, especially when in combination with other detoxifiers. Ali At 08:25 a.m. 4/02/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Does anyone have any experience with green tea extract? It's supposedly >wonderful. >Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Tony, You wrote: > You have wrote in the past that one should not drink green tea if Hypo. > Please explain the reason why. > Mostly the other way around. Green tea concentrates sodium fluoride, which is known to be toxic to the thyroid gland. They once used small doses of fluoride to treat hyperthyroidism, especially Grave's disease, 2.3-4.5 mg per day. There is more than this in some of our water supplies, and up to 8 mg in a typical cup of green tea. Thus, I would suggest that non-hypothyroid folks avoid it, especially regular or daily use. There is also some evidence that fluoride interferes with T4-T3 conversion, which is why I stopped using it. My doc has been a little stingy with the dosing lately, so I need every bit of effectiveness I can get. More info at: http://www.fluoridealert.org/galletti.htm http://www.worldwidehealth.com/Library/article.php/barbeegreentea5-11-03.html Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 In a message dated 01/28/2005 10:00:30 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cblatchl@... writes: > You have wrote in the past that one should not drink green tea if Hypo. > Please explain the reason why. > Mostly the other way around. Green tea concentrates sodium fluoride, which is known to be toxic to the thyroid gland Would that also be true for black tea also? I drink tea daily instead of coffee. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Wow, I drink about 4 cups of green tea a day. Yikes! What about other teas? Re: Re: Green Tea > > > In a message dated 01/28/2005 10:00:30 AM US > Mountain Standard Time, > cblatchl@... writes: > >> You have wrote in the past that one should not >> drink green tea if Hypo. >> Please explain the reason why. >> > > Mostly the other way around. Green tea > concentrates sodium fluoride, > which is known to be toxic to the thyroid gland > > > Would that also be true for black tea also? > I drink tea daily instead of coffee. > Tony > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 Tony, You wrote: > > Would that also be true for black tea also? > I drink tea daily instead of coffee. Yes, although not nearly as high a concentration of fluoride. They both come from the same plant, but the curing process must remove some of the soluble salts. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 --- > Tony wrote, > > > > > You have wrote in the past that one should not drink green tea if Hypo. > > Please explain the reason why. > > ......then Chuck writes.... > > Mostly the other way around. Green tea concentrates .... So now, I write: Which makes it confusing, are you saying that it is " the other way around " from what Tony wrote, which would be, Hypothyroids need to drink green tea.. ...or did you get confused? Should hypothyroid people drink tea? or they should not drink tea? Also, since fluoride seems to act against the thyroid gland, but since Hashimotos's sufferers have already a bad thyroid, useless and unproductive, getting their thyroid needs from Synthetic or Natural thyroid , then, it would not matter for a hashimoto sufferer, because the thyroid gland is not the provider, but the medicine, so, hashimoto sufferers can drink tea any day (assuming you meant at the begining that normal people or pituitary induced hypothyroidism should not drink tea due to the effects of fluoride on the gland, and tea's aid in concentrating fluoride). Unless fluoride has a direct effect on T3 and T4, fluoride is no risk for a hashimoto under treatment, only pituitary induced hypothyroidism(defective pituitary signal to thyroid gland, thyroid gland is perfect) and normal(normal pituitary and thyroid gland, people w/o thyroid problems)...should be affraid of fluoride, right? or wrong? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Schulte wrote: > > Wow, I drink about 4 cups of green tea a day. > Yikes! What about other teas? All the fermented versions of Camellia Sinensis (oolong and black) will have the same risk but at lower concentrations. One reason you may not find many studies connecting green tea directly to thyroid problems is that the heaviest consumers, in Japan, also have the highest intake of iodine from the fish and kelp in their diets. This can cause many of the same problems and confuses the studies. I suspect there might be a threshold effect, so the total dose is what is critical. If your water supply and toothpaste, etc. do not have much fluoride in them, you may be safe with a little tea now and then. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 , You wrote: > Which makes it confusing, are you saying that it is " the other > way around " from what Tony wrote, which would be, Hypothyroids need > to drink green tea.. > ...or did you get confused? No, I meant that people with _healthy_ thyroid glands should avoid it to prevent becoming hypothyroid. Euthyroids rather than hypothyroids should avoid it. I was not so much confused as confusing. Sorry for the imprecise wording. I said " mostly, " because there is some suggestion that fluoride also interferes with T4-T3 conversion, which means people taking replacement medications should also probably avoid it or use it sparingly. I figure that once the thyroid is completely gone, goitrogens may be considered neutral. That may not be the case here. Hashimoto's patients may or may not have partial thyroid function. I suppose one could argue that the condition would be easier to treat once the thyroid is destroyed and replaced by medications. I personally would have rather that happened on its own, although my own thyroid is completely gone already. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 --- Hy, I understand, too bad I am going to have to quit drinking green tea, I've been doing it for a while, since I learnt it is an excelent source of antioxidants. I read the longevity of japanesse people is largely attributed to the consumption of green tea, same as the chinesse and korean cultures. Gone is the tea, I replaced coffe for tea, now, I got to look for something else..... . ------------------- In hypothyroidism , Chuck B <cblatchl@p...> wrote: > , > > You wrote: > > > Which makes it confusing, are you saying that it is " the other > > way around " from what Tony wrote, which would be, Hypothyroids need > > to drink green tea.. > > ...or did you get confused? > > No, I meant that people with _healthy_ thyroid glands should avoid it to > prevent becoming hypothyroid. Euthyroids rather than hypothyroids should > avoid it. I was not so much confused as confusing. Sorry for the > imprecise wording. > > I said " mostly, " because there is some suggestion that fluoride also > interferes with T4-T3 conversion, which means people taking replacement > medications should also probably avoid it or use it sparingly. I figure > that once the thyroid is completely gone, goitrogens may be considered > neutral. That may not be the case here. > > Hashimoto's patients may or may not have partial thyroid function. I > suppose one could argue that the condition would be easier to treat once > the thyroid is destroyed and replaced by medications. I personally would > have rather that happened on its own, although my own thyroid is > completely gone already. > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 This is interesting because if you read about adrenal fatigue... Dr 's book in particular, it recommends that you dring Green tea with honey. He says this type of tea is good for thyroid patients and adrenal issues. LaCretia > > >Wow, I drink about 4 cups of green tea a day. >Yikes! What about other teas? > > > > Re: Re: Green Tea > > > > > > > > In a message dated 01/28/2005 10:00:30 AM US > > Mountain Standard Time, > > cblatchl@... writes: > > > >> You have wrote in the past that one should not > >> drink green tea if Hypo. > >> Please explain the reason why. > >> > > > > Mostly the other way around. Green tea > > concentrates sodium fluoride, > > which is known to be toxic to the thyroid gland > > > > > > Would that also be true for black tea also? > > I drink tea daily instead of coffee. > > Tony > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 LaCretia Mozingo wrote: > This is interesting because if you read about adrenal fatigue... Dr 's > book in particular, it recommends that you dring Green tea with honey. He > says this type of tea is good for thyroid patients and adrenal issues. Perhaps compared to coffee. The rationale of green tea for adrenal fatigue is that the caffeine is mostly in the form of Xanthines, which slowly metabolize into caffeine. This produces a slower build up and a more gradual decline than with coffee, which mostly has straight caffeine. Since caffeine triggers the release of glucose from the liver, gradual caffeination means gradual blood glucose changes. Honey derives about half of its sweetness from fructose, which similarly puts glucose into the blood more slowly than sucrose in table sugar. When your blood sugar changes are gradual, insulin should stay relatively lower, which should keep the adrenals quiet. At least that is the theory. However, caffeine in any dose or dose rate is effectively an adrenaline substitute, an artificial stressor. It should be used in moderation, since it will exhaust the corticosteroids, creating adrenal fatigue otherwise. In fact, before I started reading about the connection between adrenal fatigue and hypoT, my impression had been that the primary cause of adrenal fatigue WAS caffeine. Since hypoT is also commonly associated with insulin resistance, I would think the glycemic index of honey is too high. So, if you are going to have some tea anyway, leave out the sweetener. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 > Please let us know if you perceive a difference. As I said, the effect of fluoride on a healthy thyroid gland is well documented. I will... I've not started any medication at all yet (my doctor is still in " hmmmmm " mode), but based on everything I've read etc everything makes sense to me regarding the connection between green tea and hypothyroidism (which my first tests concluded I have). I'm a usually healthy and active person who indulges in no other toxic habits than the occasional beer. Unless of course you just get hypothyroidism for 'no real reason', then green tea shines out as the culprit due to the amount I consume. Starting this week I have cut it out completely so I'm treating it as an experiment. I also like the challenge of curing myself before my doctor has come to any definite conclussions regarding my illness. S It is not > nearly as clear that it makes any difference for those of us who have > completely replaced thyroid functions with medications. > > Which are you on, BTW? > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 From what I have read, green tea is good for the liver. Check out the following site: http://www.liverdoctor.com/Section3/12_vital_principles.asp I'm still learning too. cherielynngree <keypit-smpl@...> wrote: Hi everyone. I'm not quite sure where I read that Green Tea is not good for the Liver. Can any one confirm or give me any information about this? It seems like there is so much to know and learn once you've been diagnosed with cirrhosis. In April my Liver specialist gave me rave reviews and told me not to see him until November. Now here in June I'm suffering with anemia and I'm back at the lab giving all my blood for the tests to figure out whats going on. (No wonder why I'm anemic.) ha, ha ;-)Oh well....the joys and ups & downs of disease.Peace to all.Cherie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 > I wouldn't worry about drinking Green Tea! The docs all still reccomend it..it is a healthy tea.aside from being very refreshing..so read JoLynne articles and go get some. Joanne C. Thanks Joanne. The reason I'm so leary about taking anything (other than what my Doc prescribes) is because I took supplements and medication in the past that were reported to be beneficial to my health and found out later, that they weren't. And of course, you can't believe everything that you read. I just don't know what and who to trust. I have so much to unlearn and relearn it seems like. Take care, I'm here, Cherie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 > > Is it alright to drink green tea. ==>Yes, but it is better for you to drink Pau D'Arco tea or even clove tea instead - see recipes on my website. > what about sprouting . is it okay to eat sprouts. ==>If you eat them freshly grown and don't keep them too long because they tend to grow moulds very easily. Do not eat alfalfa sprouts. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 There are several kinds of green tea. I would think it is the sweetener that is the problem. Wil ________________________________ From: guitarnola <guitarnola@...> candidiasis Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 11:29:48 AM Subject: Green tea I have read conflicting reports. Is green tea OK on a candida diet? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I would think green tea is ok. Just watch what you sweeten it with. I use stevia only.If anyone has heard any difference, I may be wrong. DM In a message dated 10/31/2009 10:12:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, guitarnola@... writes: Is green tea acceptable on an anti-candida diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Teddyberen@... wrote: > I would think green tea is ok. Just watch what you sweeten it with. I use > stevia only.If anyone has heard any difference, I may be wrong. > DM Green, black, and white tea all are high in fluoride (so is rooibos tea, which is not a camellia sp.?). The reason is that tea (camellia sinensis) only grows in high fluoride soils. Aside from the fluoride issue, caffeine is a problem for some people. And decaf teas can be even higher in fluoride than non-decafs, if the water used in the caffeine removal is fluoridated. I would guess the same applies to water process decaf coffee if the water used is fluoridated. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 > > Can we have green tea? I tried doing a seach but I am still a biy confused. > +++Hi Suzanne. Yes it is okay, but don't have very much since it is diuretic like other teas and greens, which means it makes the body lose water along with important minerals. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 M_lou2000 wrote: >>I just found your site and am going to try the diet for my rosacea troubles.<< Welcome! Will you share your first name with us, please? I will encourage you on this program for cea. I have been following Bee's pgm since March and my face is 95% better! , began 03/09/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 > > >>I just found your site and am going to try the diet for my rosacea > troubles.<< > > Welcome! Will you share your first name with us, please? > > I will encourage you on this program for cea. I have been following > Bee's pgm since March and my face is 95% better! > > , began 03/09/10 > Thank You ...that is encouraging! I'm hoping I finally found my new improved life! Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 > > >>I just found your site and am going to try the diet for my rosacea > troubles.<< > > Welcome! Will you share your first name with us, please? > > I will encourage you on this program for cea. I have been following > Bee's pgm since March and my face is 95% better! > > , began 03/09/10 > I'm also curious about ginger root. Is that acceptable for the diet? Thanks Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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