Day Two

August 19, 2010

Hi Folks

I have just passed my second night with LDN 4.5mg.

So far, so good. My sleep has been a little bit disturbed, but it usually is

anyway, so I have temporarily (I hope) gone up to my stronger sleep med which

seems to be helping.

Tonight I will try the weaker med. In a week, I'll try LDN and 5htp alone and

see what happens.

If candida is going to flare up, will it happen right away? I am anticipating

it will and am taking measures like reducing carbs and eating xylitol. I will

get some oregano oil or something later this week.

So far though, the yeast has been quiet.

Does anyone else use xylitol as an anti-candida agent? How do you use it?

Thanks

Jaye

March 2, 2011

That is Halcion... I copied the side effects and warnings for you.. but it's not the Halcion.. IT's the Elavil kid. There are other, much better anti-depressants you can take. I take Celexa and have no issues with it.. There are a ton of anti-d's out there that your doctor can try. Elavil is not the end all be all drug.

Here are the warnings for triazolam/halcion:

During placebo-controlled clinical studies in which 1,003 patients received HALCION Tablets, the most troublesome side effects were extensions of the pharmacologic activity of triazolam, eg, drowsiness, dizziness, or light-headedness.

The figures cited below are estimates of untoward clinical event incidence among subjects who participated in the relatively short duration (i.e., 1 to 42 days) placebo-controlled clinical trials of HALCION. The figures cannot be used to predict precisely the incidence of untoward events in the course of usual medical practice where patient characteristics and other factors often differ from those in clinical trials. These figures cannot be compared with those obtained from other clinical studies involving related drug products and placebo, as each group of drug trials is conducted under a different set of conditions.

Comparison of the cited figures, however, can provide the prescriber with some basis for estimating the relative contributions of drug and nondrug factors to the untoward event incidence rate in the population studied. Even this use must be approached cautiously, as a drug may relieve a symptom in one patient while inducing it in others. (For example, an anticholinergic, anxiolytic drug may relieve dry mouth [a sign of anxiety] in some subjects but induce it [an untoward event] in others.)

HALCION

PLACEBO

Number of Patients

1003

997

% Patients Reporting:

Central Nervous System

Drowsiness

14.0

6.4

Headache

9.7

8.4

Dizziness

7.8

3.1

Nervousness

5.2

4.5

Light-headedness

4.9

0.9

Coordination disorders/ataxia

4.6

0.8

Gastrointestinal

Nausea/vomiting

4.6

3.7

In addition to the relatively common (i.e., 1% or greater) untoward events enumerated above, the following adverse events have been reported less frequently (i.e., 0.9% to0.5%): euphoria, tachycardia, tiredness, confusional states/memory impairment, cramps/pain, depression, visual disturbances.

Rare (i.e., less than 0.5%) adverse reactions included constipation, tastealterations, diarrhea, dry mouth, dermatitis/allergy, dreaming/nightmares,insomnia, paresthesia, tinnitus, dysesthesia, weakness, congestion, death from hepatic failure in a patient also receiving diuretic drugs.

In addition to these untoward events for which estimates of incidence are available, the following adverse events have been reported in association with the use of HALCION and other benzodiazepines: amnestic symptoms (anterograde amnesia with appropriate or inappropriate behavior), confusional states (disorientation, derealization, depersonalization, and/or clouding of consciousness), dystonia, anorexia, fatigue, sedation, slurred speech, jaundice,pruritus, dysarthria, changes in libido, menstrual irregularities, incontinence, and urinary retention. Other factors may contribute to some of these reactions, eg, concomitant intake of alcohol or other drugs, sleep deprivation, an abnormal premorbid state, etc.

Other events reported include: paradoxical reactions such as stimulation, mania, an agitational state (restlessness, irritability, and excitation), increased musclespasticity, sleep disturbances, hallucinations, delusions, aggressiveness, falling,somnambulism, syncope, inappropriate behavior and other adverse behavioral effects. Should these occur, use of the drug should be discontinued.

The following events have also been reported: chest pain, burning tongue/glossitis/stomatitis.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM, trudykinsey@... <trudykinsey@...> wrote:

Ok I am not taking the AM dose of Elavil for this whole week . If it is causing all of this I wonder how llong it will take to get out of my system? My hands are shaking so bad I can't type on here , takes a long time. I broke two cigs just taking out of pack! Glad the outdoor tidying is not anything " small " where inches matter! Quess I will postpone sewing on my current quilt projecft.

Teri could you also research Triazolam . .25 m? You remember how freaked out I was about sleep walking? I switched from Tramadol to this two weeks before I started Elavil. ( I'm just trying anything to make this not be the Elavil. I would rather Fall, shake, jerk all than give ip my Elavil. I know that sounds like emotional addiction. But I really hate being in a constant state of Road Rage and depresion. Life is calmer, and productive when all my energy isn't funneled into the Bad 9Stuff! Thanks for understanding & helping.

" A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae West

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877

--

Teri Gottlieb

MOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.

March 3, 2011

Oh Trudy - take the Celexa!!

That is Halcion... I copied the side effects and warnings for you.. but it's not the Halcion.. IT's the Elavil kid. There are other, much better anti-depressants you can take. I take Celexa and have no issues with it.. There are a ton of anti-d's out there that your doctor can try. Elavil is not the end all be all drug.

Here are the warnings for triazolam/halcion:

During placebo-controlled clinical studies in which 1,003 patients received HALCION Tablets, the most troublesome side effects were extensions of the pharmacologic activity of triazolam, eg, drowsiness, dizziness, or light-headedness.

The figures cited below are estimates of untoward clinical event incidence among subjects who participated in the relatively short duration (i.e., 1 to 42 days) placebo-controlled clinical trials of HALCION. The figures cannot be used to predict precisely the incidence of untoward events in the course of usual medical practice where patient characteristics and other factors often differ from those in clinical trials. These figures cannot be compared with those obtained from other clinical studies involving related drug products and placebo, as each group of drug trials is conducted under a different set of conditions.

Comparison of the cited figures, however, can provide the prescriber with some basis for estimating the relative contributions of drug and nondrug factors to the untoward event incidence rate in the population studied. Even this use must be approached cautiously, as a drug may relieve a symptom in one patient while inducing it in others. (For example, an anticholinergic, anxiolytic drug may relieve dry mouth [a sign of anxiety] in some subjects but induce it [an untoward event] in others.)

HALCION

PLACEBO

Number of Patients

1003

997

% Patients Reporting:

Central Nervous System

Drowsiness

14.0

6.4

Headache

9.7

8.4

Dizziness

7.8

3.1

Nervousness

5.2

4.5

Light-headedness

4.9

0.9

Coordination disorders/ataxia

4.6

0.8

Gastrointestinal

Nausea/vomiting

4.6

3.7

In addition to the relatively common (i.e., 1% or greater) untoward events enumerated above, the following adverse events have been reported less frequently (i.e., 0.9% to0.5%): euphoria, tachycardia, tiredness, confusional states/memory impairment, cramps/pain, depression, visual disturbances.

Rare (i.e., less than 0.5%) adverse reactions included constipation, tastealterations, diarrhea, dry mouth, dermatitis/allergy, dreaming/nightmares,insomnia, paresthesia, tinnitus, dysesthesia, weakness, congestion, death from hepatic failure in a patient also receiving diuretic drugs.

In addition to these untoward events for which estimates of incidence are available, the following adverse events have been reported in association with the use of HALCION and other benzodiazepines: amnestic symptoms (anterograde amnesia with appropriate or inappropriate behavior), confusional states (disorientation, derealization, depersonalization, and/or clouding of consciousness), dystonia, anorexia, fatigue, sedation, slurred speech, jaundice,pruritus, dysarthria, changes in libido, menstrual irregularities, incontinence, and urinary retention. Other factors may contribute to some of these reactions, eg, concomitant intake of alcohol or other drugs, sleep deprivation, an abnormal premorbid state, etc.

Other events reported include: paradoxical reactions such as stimulation, mania, an agitational state (restlessness, irritability, and excitation), increased musclespasticity, sleep disturbances, hallucinations, delusions, aggressiveness, falling,somnambulism, syncope, inappropriate behavior and other adverse

behavioral effects. Should these occur, use of the drug should be discontinued.

The following events have also been reported: chest pain, burning tongue/glossitis/stomatitis.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM, trudykinsey@... <trudykinsey@...> wrote:

Ok I am not taking the AM dose of Elavil for this whole week . If it is causing all of this I wonder how llong it will take to get out of my system? My hands are shaking so bad I can't type on here , takes a long time. I broke two cigs just taking out of pack! Glad the outdoor tidying is not anything " small" where inches matter! Quess I will postpone sewing on my current quilt projecft.

Teri could you also research Triazolam . .25 m? You remember how freaked out I was about sleep walking? I switched from Tramadol to this two weeks before I started Elavil. ( I'm just trying anything to make this not be the Elavil. I would rather Fall, shake, jerk all than give ip my Elavil. I know that sounds like emotional addiction. But I really hate being in a constant state of Road Rage and depresion. Life is calmer, and productive when all my energy isn't funneled into the Bad 9Stuff! Thanks for understanding & helping.

" A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae West

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877

--

Teri Gottlieb

MOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.

March 3, 2011

Wellbutrin is one of those that jacks me up, way too jittery. Not mellow at all." A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae Westhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyI would literally have a break down if my Dr. removed me from the Wellbutrin. I usually don't remember to take the Celexa; but, the Wellbutrin - let's just say, there are about 8 hours in a day that I'll be pretty mellow.However, let someone get on the bad side of me late in the afternoon and it's a whole different story. Right now I'm sooo angry at two of my brothers, that if one of them came into my view - they'd better be running (and neither one of them can hardly walk).It's another whole reason why I love my current style of living. I only started on the anti-d's in between the tx's. However, they were raised and then the Wellbutrin was added

for the last 3 mos of the clinical. For the last 20 odd years, I was usually a fairly happy person!! Sure, the last tx made me a physco bitch; but, it was supposed to be short term. Well, sooo much has happened in my life in the last year that I would go crazy without my anti-d.I was crying so hard in the Dr's office a little after we got the news that my baby brother was terminal. Do you know, she even gave me a script for 5 or 6 valium. Haven't had valium since the 70's when it seemed that it was the Drs favourite prescription.Luv Gloria

Ok I am not taking the AM dose of Elavil for this whole week . If it is causing all of this I wonder how llong it will take to get out of my system? My hands are shaking so bad I can't type on here , takes a long time. I broke two cigs just taking out of pack! Glad the outdoor tidying is not anything " small" where inches matter! Quess I will postpone sewing on my current quilt projecft.

Teri could you also research Triazolam . .25 m? You remember how freaked out I was about sleep walking? I switched from Tramadol to this two weeks before I started Elavil. ( I'm just trying anything to make this not be the Elavil. I would rather Fall, shake, jerk all than give ip my Elavil. I know that sounds like emotional addiction. But I really hate being in a constant state of Road Rage and depresion. Life is calmer, and productive when all my energy isn't funneled into the Bad 9Stuff! Thanks for understanding & helping.

" A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae West

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877

March 3, 2011

Is the celexa one to take at night??I paid 80.00 for the stupid Cymbalta. Took it 8 days." A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae Westhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

Oh Trudy - take the Celexa!!

That is Halcion... I copied the side effects and warnings for you.. but it's not the Halcion.. IT's the Elavil kid. There are other, much better anti-depressants you can take. I take Celexa and have no issues with it.. There are a ton of anti-d's out there that your doctor can try. Elavil is not the end all be all drug.

Here are the warnings for triazolam/halcion:

During placebo-controlled clinical studies in which 1,003 patients received HALCION Tablets, the most troublesome side effects were extensions of the pharmacologic activity of triazolam, eg, drowsiness, dizziness, or light-headedness.

The figures cited below are estimates of untoward clinical event incidence among subjects who participated in the relatively short duration (i.e., 1 to 42 days) placebo-controlled clinical trials of HALCION. The figures cannot be used to predict precisely the incidence of untoward events in the course of usual medical practice where patient characteristics and other factors often differ from those in clinical trials. These figures cannot be compared with those obtained from other clinical studies involving related drug products and placebo, as each group of drug trials is conducted under a different set of conditions.

Comparison of the cited figures, however, can provide the prescriber with some basis for estimating the relative contributions of drug and nondrug factors to the untoward event incidence rate in the population studied. Even this use must be approached cautiously, as a drug may relieve a symptom in one patient while inducing it in others. (For example, an anticholinergic, anxiolytic drug may relieve dry mouth [a sign of anxiety] in some subjects but induce it [an untoward event] in others.)

HALCION

PLACEBO

Number of Patients

1003

997

% Patients Reporting:

Central Nervous System

Drowsiness

14.0

6.4

Headache

9.7

8.4

Dizziness

7.8

3.1

Nervousness

5.2

4.5

Light-headedness

4.9

0.9

Coordination disorders/ataxia

4.6

0.8

Gastrointestinal

Nausea/vomiting

4.6

3.7

In addition to the relatively common (i.e., 1% or greater) untoward events enumerated above, the following adverse events have been reported less frequently (i.e., 0.9% to0.5%): euphoria, tachycardia, tiredness, confusional states/memory impairment, cramps/pain, depression, visual disturbances.

Rare (i.e., less than 0.5%) adverse reactions included constipation, tastealterations, diarrhea, dry mouth, dermatitis/allergy, dreaming/nightmares,insomnia, paresthesia, tinnitus, dysesthesia, weakness, congestion, death from hepatic failure in a patient also receiving diuretic drugs.

In addition to these untoward events for which estimates of incidence are available, the following adverse events have been reported in association with the use of HALCION and other benzodiazepines: amnestic symptoms (anterograde

amnesia with appropriate or inappropriate behavior), confusional states (disorientation, derealization, depersonalization, and/or clouding of consciousness), dystonia, anorexia, fatigue, sedation, slurred speech, jaundice,pruritus, dysarthria, changes in libido, menstrual irregularities, incontinence, and urinary retention. Other factors may contribute to some of these reactions, eg,

concomitant intake of alcohol or other drugs, sleep deprivation, an abnormal premorbid state, etc.

Other events reported include: paradoxical reactions such as stimulation, mania, an agitational state (restlessness, irritability, and excitation), increased musclespasticity, sleep disturbances, hallucinations, delusions, aggressiveness,

falling,somnambulism, syncope, inappropriate behavior and other adverse

behavioral effects. Should these occur, use of the drug should be discontinued.

The following events have also been reported: chest pain, burning tongue/glossitis/stomatitis.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM, trudykinsey@... <trudykinsey@...> wrote:

Ok I am not taking the AM dose of Elavil for this whole week . If it is causing all of this I wonder how llong it will take to get out of my system? My hands are shaking so bad I can't type on here , takes a long time. I broke two cigs just taking out of pack! Glad the outdoor tidying is not anything " small" where inches matter! Quess I will postpone sewing on my current quilt projecft.

Teri could you also research Triazolam . .25 m? You remember how freaked out I was about sleep walking? I switched from Tramadol to this two weeks before I started Elavil. ( I'm just trying anything to make this not be the Elavil. I would rather Fall, shake, jerk all than give ip my Elavil. I know that sounds like emotional addiction. But I really hate being in a constant state of Road Rage and depresion. Life is calmer, and productive when all my energy isn't funneled into the Bad 9Stuff! Thanks for understanding & helping.

" A well-behaved woman never made history " Mae West

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877

--

Teri Gottlieb

MOVE ON. It's just a chapter in the past, but don't close the book. Just turn the page.

March 3, 2011