Re: Lyme flushing and rosacea

[Guest guest]

My son's only lyme symptom......the crescent markings

in his throat......yet I had him tested because of his

slapped cheek look and red ears (sometimes) and.... so

many family members have lyme.

His test (Igenex positive) showed an exposure in the

past. The llmd is having him do the urine challenge

test now.

The llmd also does not know what is going on with his

slapped cheeks but she talked of rosecea as a

possibility.

Anyway when I googled rosecea I went on sites and

looked at natural alternatives. I read there is a

depletion of B vitamins. There were a number of

products to try, also.

If you can't find the website - email me and I will

look again because I did not bookmark it.

--- bluesky <bluesky@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> Can anyone point me in the direction of an article

> or website that describes

> Lyme flushing? I've only recently heard about it

> and don't know anything

> about it.

>

> On a related topic, I've been having lots of skin

> problems with the cold dry

> weather. This happens every year, but this year

> seems worse. When this

> started I also got some bright red spots on my face

> that looked different

> than the typical dryness, chapping, and reaction to

> the cold.

>

> A dermatologist gave a tentative diagnosis of

> rosacea. Doing some initial

> reading and seeing pictures of it online, I believe

> that's what I have.

>

> I'm trying to learn about both the Lyme flushing and

> rosacea. And I wonder

> if there's a connection. Should anyone be able to

> help me with some info or

> some resources for research I'd appreciate it. I

> would really like to avoid

> having a nose like W.C. Fields.

> http://www.skinema.com/Act5cea.html

>

> My searching so far shows almost nothing in the way

> of natural treatment for

> the rosacea. Only chemicals and antibiotics. With

> my chemical

> sensitivities and lack of tolerance for antibiotics

> after using them for

> four years, I really want to find a better way to

> heal.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Be well,

> Deanna

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Janis

On Autism Enzymes (or other way around)a group, they talk

about problems with phenols (certain foods contain this) causing the

red ears. It's a very knowledgable group about supplements, but not

Lyme. THey use digestive enzymes with many positives for this. My

son also has this most all of the time, but I don't have control

over his eating habits- he is positive for Lyme and has the diag for

Attention Deficit Disorder. He tested low in Biotin and B6, but

don't know if this is the direct reason. Take care Rose Marie

>

> > Hello all,

> >

> > Can anyone point me in the direction of an article

> > or website that describes

> > Lyme flushing? I've only recently heard about it

> > and don't know anything

> > about it.

> >

> > On a related topic, I've been having lots of skin

> > problems with the cold dry

> > weather. This happens every year, but this year

> > seems worse. When this

> > started I also got some bright red spots on my face

> > that looked different

> > than the typical dryness, chapping, and reaction to

> > the cold.

> >

> > A dermatologist gave a tentative diagnosis of

> > rosacea. Doing some initial

> > reading and seeing pictures of it online, I believe

> > that's what I have.

> >

> > I'm trying to learn about both the Lyme flushing and

> > rosacea. And I wonder

> > if there's a connection. Should anyone be able to

> > help me with some info or

> > some resources for research I'd appreciate it. I

> > would really like to avoid

> > having a nose like W.C. Fields.

> > http://www.skinema.com/Act5cea.html

> >

> > My searching so far shows almost nothing in the way

> > of natural treatment for

> > the rosacea. Only chemicals and antibiotics. With

> > my chemical

> > sensitivities and lack of tolerance for antibiotics

> > after using them for

> > four years, I really want to find a better way to

> > heal.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Be well,

> > Deanna

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Deanna,

I have all kinds of strange skin things going on since lyme. I too

have been diagnosed with cea. I also have red scabby places on

my face from what is diagnosed as seborrhetic keratosis that

eventually turn brown. Then I have small pimples which dry up all

over my body and make a minute scab. My doc prescribed Differin for

the scabby places on my face and Nortate for the cea, but I quit

using them because I am on soooo many other meds now.

cooky

>

> Hello all,

>

> Can anyone point me in the direction of an article or website that

describes

> Lyme flushing? I've only recently heard about it and don't know

anything

> about it.

>

> On a related topic, I've been having lots of skin problems with

the cold dry

> weather. This happens every year, but this year seems worse. When

this

> started I also got some bright red spots on my face that looked

different

> than the typical dryness, chapping, and reaction to the cold.

>

> A dermatologist gave a tentative diagnosis of rosacea. Doing some

initial

> reading and seeing pictures of it online, I believe that's what I

have.

>

> I'm trying to learn about both the Lyme flushing and rosacea. And

I wonder

> if there's a connection. Should anyone be able to help me with

some info or

> some resources for research I'd appreciate it. I would really

like to avoid

> having a nose like W.C. Fields.

http://www.skinema.com/Act5cea.html

>

> My searching so far shows almost nothing in the way of natural

treatment for

> the rosacea. Only chemicals and antibiotics. With my chemical

> sensitivities and lack of tolerance for antibiotics after using

them for

> four years, I really want to find a better way to heal.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Be well,

> Deanna

>

[Guest guest]

Rose Marie

My son is 26 and I too don't have much influence over

his food choices even though he lives at home while

finishing college.

So what do I plug in for that website?

I wonder if my son should have muscle testing to see

what all would benefit him. He is angry to think he

might also have lyme like the rest of us. He was out

of state for two years but his g'friend who grew up in

Poughkeepsi had lyme as an elementary student. (I

digress with all this info you don't need.) He also

only has student insurance. Yikes! His very ill

brother who sees Dr. B., thank God, is cobra(d) with

our very fine insurance.

Thank you and I will try finding the autismenzyme

site. Is there something you do differently to find a

group? I don't remember how I found this

lyme group.

Janis

--- fancy1413 <fancy1413@...> wrote:

> Janis

> On Autism Enzymes (or other way around)a

> group, they talk

> about problems with phenols (certain foods contain

> this) causing the

> red ears. It's a very knowledgable group about

> supplements, but not

> Lyme. THey use digestive enzymes with many positives

> for this. My

> son also has this most all of the time, but I don't

> have control

> over his eating habits- he is positive for Lyme and

> has the diag for

> Attention Deficit Disorder. He tested low in Biotin

> and B6, but

> don't know if this is the direct reason. Take care

> Rose Marie

>

>

> >

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > Can anyone point me in the direction of an

> article

> > > or website that describes

> > > Lyme flushing? I've only recently heard about

> it

> > > and don't know anything

> > > about it.

> > >

> > > On a related topic, I've been having lots of

> skin

> > > problems with the cold dry

> > > weather. This happens every year, but this year

> > > seems worse. When this

> > > started I also got some bright red spots on my

> face

> > > that looked different

> > > than the typical dryness, chapping, and reaction

> to

> > > the cold.

> > >

> > > A dermatologist gave a tentative diagnosis of

> > > rosacea. Doing some initial

> > > reading and seeing pictures of it online, I

> believe

> > > that's what I have.

> > >

> > > I'm trying to learn about both the Lyme flushing

> and

> > > rosacea. And I wonder

> > > if there's a connection. Should anyone be able

> to

> > > help me with some info or

> > > some resources for research I'd appreciate it.

> I

> > > would really like to avoid

> > > having a nose like W.C. Fields.

> > > http://www.skinema.com/Act5cea.html

> > >

> > > My searching so far shows almost nothing in the

> way

> > > of natural treatment for

> > > the rosacea. Only chemicals and antibiotics.

> With

> > > my chemical

> > > sensitivities and lack of tolerance for

> antibiotics

> > > after using them for

> > > four years, I really want to find a better way

> to

> > > heal.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Be well,

> > > Deanna

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Janis

Would you believe I don't know how to find their address to paste it

in here- I'm sorry. It's called Enzymesandautism I

think you search and then write this one in. I don't

remember how to do it. Am sorry.

Yes mine's 19 and angry also about all the supplements, lyme, the

world sometimes.Tonight again is the same problems.

You coud also google phenols too to read more. If you can't control

the diet he probably won't do it unless he sees it helping. It's the

pits. THey have to try this for awhile and then they'll see

postives, but they won't.

The probiotics, if you can get him to take them from what I've read

will help to produce some B vits and it'll help some with the yeast

too. We take CP1 from Custom Probiotics. I give son 4 a day and I

and husband take 3. The fellow we get them from said you could go up

to 6 without a problem, esp since husband and I are on antibiotics

for lyme. I also take Candex, Nystatin, and Diflucan for this.

Take care

Rose Marie

>

> Rose Marie

>

> My son is 26 and I too don't have much influence over

> his food choices even though he lives at home while

> finishing college.

>

> So what do I plug in for that website?

>

> I wonder if my son should have muscle testing to see

> what all would benefit him. He is angry to think he

> might also have lyme like the rest of us. He was out

> of state for two years but his g'friend who grew up in

> Poughkeepsi had lyme as an elementary student. (I

> digress with all this info you don't need.) He also

> only has student insurance. Yikes! His very ill

> brother who sees Dr. B., thank God, is cobra(d) with

> our very fine insurance.

>

> Thank you and I will try finding the autismenzyme

> site. Is there something you do differently to find a

> group? I don't remember how I found this

> lyme group.

>

> Janis

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rose Marie

I did get to the thousands of . didn't

find it but I did not think to type it in......I did

not look on the page for a search. I will go back to

the page again.

I also have a 19 and 23 year old with lyme - one son

has been very ill for 6 years & the other for a year.

So my 26 year old does not want to go thru what they

are going thru.

--- fancy1413 <fancy1413@...> wrote:

> Janis

> Would you believe I don't know how to find their

> address to paste it

> in here- I'm sorry. It's called

> Enzymesandautism I

> think you search and then write this

> one in. I don't

> remember how to do it. Am sorry.

> Yes mine's 19 and angry also about all the

> supplements, lyme, the

> world sometimes.Tonight again is the same problems.

> You coud also google phenols too to read more. If

> you can't control

> the diet he probably won't do it unless he sees it

> helping. It's the

> pits. THey have to try this for awhile and then

> they'll see

> postives, but they won't.

> The probiotics, if you can get him to take them from

> what I've read

> will help to produce some B vits and it'll help some

> with the yeast

> too. We take CP1 from Custom Probiotics. I give son

> 4 a day and I

> and husband take 3. The fellow we get them from said

> you could go up

> to 6 without a problem, esp since husband and I are

> on antibiotics

> for lyme. I also take Candex, Nystatin, and Diflucan

> for this.

> Take care

> Rose Marie

>

>

> >

> > Rose Marie

> >

> > My son is 26 and I too don't have much influence

> over

> > his food choices even though he lives at home

> while

> > finishing college.

> >

> > So what do I plug in for that website?

> >

> > I wonder if my son should have muscle testing to

> see

> > what all would benefit him. He is angry to think

> he

> > might also have lyme like the rest of us. He was

> out

> > of state for two years but his g'friend who grew

> up in

> > Poughkeepsi had lyme as an elementary student. (I

> > digress with all this info you don't need.) He

> also

> > only has student insurance. Yikes! His very ill

> > brother who sees Dr. B., thank God, is cobra(d)

> with

> > our very fine insurance.

> >

> > Thank you and I will try finding the autismenzyme

> > site. Is there something you do differently to

> find a

> > group? I don't remember how I found this

>

> > lyme group.

> >

> > Janis

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Janis

I just got done reading a book called Mold Warriors by Ritchie

Shoemaker he's a dr out in land. It makes so much sense!! He

talks about Lyme releasing toxins also, same way that mold does. I

would highly reccommend getting this book and reading it. I'm going

to ask our LLMD about it and being checked for some of the markers,

am hoping to do all of us. It would answer so many questions and

then we'd be able hopefully to follow this dr's protocol and see. I

bought it off of his website- $21 it was very well worth it to me.

www.chronicneurotoxins.com I would think that yeast die-of would

also create toxins. Yep son is 19, daughter is 24 and she's reading

more, but I think it's just too much for him to get his mind around.

If only he'd get to eating healthy and drinking more water, but...

Oh I go onto the groups site to read the messages and I noticed

that the enzyme addy in the message I wrote you can just click on.

You would have to join the group I think, esp to post, wonderful

group of people tho.

Take care Rose Marie

>

> Thanks Rose Marie

>

> I did get to the thousands of . didn't

> find it but I did not think to type it in......I did

> not look on the page for a search. I will go back to

> the page again.

>

> I also have a 19 and 23 year old with lyme - one son

> has been very ill for 6 years & the other for a year.

> So my 26 year old does not want to go thru what they

> are going thru.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I attended a lyme monthly meeting in D.C. recently and

a fellow in the audience is only following Shoemaker's

protocol and having success. Dr. Burrascano had my

son detox with cholestyramine (sp) before he put my

son on abx.

Do you feel that my son with rosecea could benefit

from Shoemaker's suggestions?

I purchased the Rife book and the Healing Lyme with

herbs book that is recommended on the lymenet forum.

Do you post there? My user name is valymemom.

Just recently 6 of us in the northern VA area started

meeting for lunch and to exchange ideas about the

protocols and docs our kids are seeing. Three other

women have lyme like me.

It's been nice talking with you.

--- fancy1413 <fancy1413@...> wrote:

> Janis

> I just got done reading a book called Mold Warriors

> by Ritchie

> Shoemaker he's a dr out in land. It makes so

> much sense!! He

> talks about Lyme releasing toxins also, same way

> that mold does. I

> would highly reccommend getting this book and

> reading it. I'm going

> to ask our LLMD about it and being checked for some

> of the markers,

> am hoping to do all of us. It would answer so many

> questions and

> then we'd be able hopefully to follow this dr's

> protocol and see. I

> bought it off of his website- $21 it was very well

> worth it to me.

> www.chronicneurotoxins.com I would think that yeast

> die-of would

> also create toxins. Yep son is 19, daughter is 24

> and she's reading

> more, but I think it's just too much for him to get

> his mind around.

> If only he'd get to eating healthy and drinking more

> water, but...

> Oh I go onto the groups site to read the

> messages and I noticed

> that the enzyme addy in the message I wrote you can

> just click on.

> You would have to join the group I think, esp to

> post, wonderful

> group of people tho.

> Take care Rose Marie

>

>

> >

> > Thanks Rose Marie

> >

> > I did get to the thousands of .

> didn't

> > find it but I did not think to type it in......I

> did

> > not look on the page for a search. I will go back

> to

> > the page again.

> >

> > I also have a 19 and 23 year old with lyme - one

> son

> > has been very ill for 6 years & the other for a

> year.

> > So my 26 year old does not want to go thru what

> they

> > are going thru.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Janis

I don't know I assume so, but this is something I want to talk with

our LLMD about. The rosecea I've seen posted about on the autism

enzyme group, but I can't remember specifically what was said. I

know I'm glad I got the book and read it.

Gosh Dr B! Have you asked him? He's like the father of healing folks-

I would think he may have an idea.

No I've not been on Lymenet, what's the addy?

This is wonderful to get together with others! Others many times can

see/think of things that we can't cos we're so close to the problem.

There's also a book Herbal antibiotics by Buhner- I got it,but

haven't started anything from it as we're doing reg antibiotics and

frankly I don't know how to fit everything else in and I've reached

my max for detox with the Flagyl 1/4 tab every other day at the

moment. I'm looking/thinking/trying to get up the courage to try

Detox max from our LLMD, but haven't yet.

Same here- maybe post what you do find out.

Take care Rose Marie

>

> I attended a lyme monthly meeting in D.C. recently and

> a fellow in the audience is only following Shoemaker's

> protocol and having success. Dr. Burrascano had my

> son detox with cholestyramine (sp) before he put my

> son on abx.

>

> Do you feel that my son with rosecea could benefit

> from Shoemaker's suggestions?

>

> I purchased the Rife book and the Healing Lyme with

> herbs book that is recommended on the lymenet forum.

> Do you post there? My user name is valymemom.

>

> Just recently 6 of us in the northern VA area started

> meeting for lunch and to exchange ideas about the

> protocols and docs our kids are seeing. Three other

> women have lyme like me.

>

> It's been nice talking with you.

>

>