Re: Question About Herx Reaction

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> What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

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> I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> sort yet...

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ANYONE?

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what dose?

eric

ryanbabs75 <ryanbabs@...> wrote:

What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

sort yet...

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A herx feels like you have been run over by a truck, hit by a train and then

dropped from about 60k feet *-) My first and worst herx was a dooooozy.

So cold I couldnt get warm, had on sweats, under a couple of comforters and

piled up in front of a blazing fireplace, ached horribly head to toe,

headache, etc, just felt like complete crap Thats about the best

way I can describe it LOL

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> > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

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> > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> > sort yet...

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Put simply, a Herx is a bacterial die-off. When that happens, they

release toxins and you get sicker from the toxins and the bacteria.

Generally, your Lyme symptoms get worse.

The timing of your Herx depends on what you're taking and how much. My

first Herx came about 4 days after starting 400 mg doxy daily.

Jessie

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> What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

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> I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> sort yet...

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I am currently taking 200 mg per day (100 mg twice daily). How long

doesit USUALLY take for a herx?

> What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

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> I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> sort yet...

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[i think]you need to up the dose ryan....200 is to low.....you may not herx on

that dose.... [Ask your doctor first before changing the dose of your

medication!]

eric

ryanbabs75 <ryanbabs@...> wrote:

I am currently taking 200 mg per day (100 mg twice daily). How long

doesit USUALLY take for a herx?

[Guest guest]

> > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

> >

> > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> > sort yet...

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> >RYAN: WHAT ARE YOU TAKING 200MG OF? DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT OF

MEDICINE. ANYWAY, A HERX CAN HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS TO WEEKS. YOU

WILL KNOW. SUDDENLY YOU WILL FEEL WORSE.

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> > > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

> > >

> > > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of any

> > > sort yet...

> > >

> > >

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> > >RYAN: WHAT ARE YOU TAKING 200MG OF? DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT OF

> MEDICINE. ANYWAY, A HERX CAN HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS TO WEEKS. YOU

> WILL KNOW. SUDDENLY YOU WILL FEEL WORSE.

> >

>

OH, I SEE YOU ARE TAKING DOXY. I AGREE 200 ONCE A DAY IS NOT ENOUGH.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I WAS ON 600 A DAY FOR FIVE MONTHS

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Everyone of us respond to treatment differently. Not the answer

that you were probably looking for. A Herx reaction is a response

to the die off of the Lyme in your system. Some people Herx severly

for weeks while others, like myself, never experience a Herx. It's

like the EM rash, some people get them and others don't. Actually

that's an interesting question. I never had an EM rash and I never

Herx'd. How many others in the group never had an EM rash and don't

Herx.

Sometimes it is very difficult to tell the difference between a Herx

and actual Lyme symptoms. It's best to discuss this in detail with

your Primary Lyme Care Provider (PLCP I just invented it :-).

During recovery it is normal to have many ups and downs. Try to do

your best to stay in the middle, when your feeling bad know that you

will feel better, when your feeling GREAT resist going out and

conquering the world. Slow and steedy wins the race to recovery

against Lyme. If you over do it when your feeling GREAT you give

the Lyme an opportunity to gain ground and you may possible suffer a

relapse.

I would recommend learning to listen to your body. Judge your

progress every three months to give your treatment a chance to

work. Write down all of you questions for your PLCP visits so that

you can discuss them in detail with your trusted expert.

IMHO, recovering from Lyme is a holistic process. Requiring a mind,

body and soul sympatic effort!

Be well,

> > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

> >

> > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of

any

> > sort yet...

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> >

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Another thing to remember about a Herx reaction is that if you are

working with a really good PLCP (Primary Lyme Care Provider) they

are sometimes able to track the success of their treatments by the

timing and severity of the Herx reactions. So it's very important

to keep an accurate log of your Herx times and specific symptoms.

Some PLCP's use this information to pulse abx (antibiotics) so that

you are taking the proper abx at the right time to kill the Lyme

when they are vulnerable. Pulsing abx is more effective for two

reasons, first you are killing the Lyme when they are vulnerable and

second you are only taking the abx when necessary. This is

sometimes much better for your body.

Be well,

> > > > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you

do?

> > > >

> > > > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction

of any

> > > > sort yet...

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >RYAN: WHAT ARE YOU TAKING 200MG OF? DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT

OF

> > MEDICINE. ANYWAY, A HERX CAN HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS TO

WEEKS. YOU

> > WILL KNOW. SUDDENLY YOU WILL FEEL WORSE.

> > >

> >

> OH, I SEE YOU ARE TAKING DOXY. I AGREE 200 ONCE A DAY IS NOT

ENOUGH.

> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I WAS ON 600 A DAY FOR FIVE MONTHS

>

[Guest guest]

There's a number of factors which will determine whether you get a

herx. The load of spirchetes that you are carrying, their location in

your body, and the rate at which they die off are all important factors.

I started on 200mg of doxy daily, for a month. I did get a herx which

expressed itself as severe headaches which would last many hours but

my other symptoms tended to decline in severity. When I started on

Ketek and Flagyl, I had an extremely severe herx after 3 days and

again about 5 weeks later. These herxs exprressed them selves as panic

attacks, with visual disturbances, upon waking at night, which were

probably due to a heavy load of spirochetes in my brain. I had a

exacerbation of my joint and back pain as well, which was fairly

constant, along with increased fatigue. Gradually over several months

these symptoms abated somewhat. I am on my third day of IV Rocephin,

but so far have only had a few twinges of pain in my feet, late at

night. No herx with the Rocephin, might mean that the Ketek and Flagyl

destroyed the LD, so my current symptoms might be lingering damage and

may resolve, somewhat, with time. Who knows.

cheers

Duncan

> > > > > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you

> do?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction

> of any

> > > > > sort yet...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >RYAN: WHAT ARE YOU TAKING 200MG OF? DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT

> OF

> > > MEDICINE. ANYWAY, A HERX CAN HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS TO

> WEEKS. YOU

> > > WILL KNOW. SUDDENLY YOU WILL FEEL WORSE.

> > > >

> > >

> > OH, I SEE YOU ARE TAKING DOXY. I AGREE 200 ONCE A DAY IS NOT

> ENOUGH.

> > IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I WAS ON 600 A DAY FOR FIVE MONTHS

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's about half (or less) of the usual dose, so it could take you

a week or more to Herx.

Jessie

> > What exactly is this herx reaction? What does it make you do?

> >

> > I have been taking Doxy for a couple of days and no reaction of

any

> > sort yet...

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