Please help!

[Guest guest]

Well, OK. First of all, changing the Lex dose time only works if it's the Lex

making you feel tired. You're taking it at night. Does it help you sleep or keep

you awake?

I take Atarax (Vistaril) as well. When I first started taking it it would knock

me on my butt. Two days type of knock me on my butt and I only take 20mgs at the

most usually only 10. If you've been taking the Vistaril for a year now I

wouldn't think it would still be doing that. Course I could be wrong. Have you

been feeling tired since you started these drugs? Or which one if you noticed it

and associated it with one of them. Vistaril is an older antihistamine. One of

the sides is going to be sleepiness.

The question is....do you have anything else going on that could possibly be

causing you to be tired? When did the tiredness start? How's your iron? Once you

rule out other causes then it's time to look at the Lex as the culprit. If it is

there are things that can be done. There's a drug they give to people with

narcolepsy to keep them awake and alert during the day. There's also Wellbutrin.

That's been known to counteract the sleepy/groggy effect of different and

various AD's. If you were given the Vistaril for anxiety and anxiety is still a

problem then Wellbutrin *may* not be the best solution. Then again it might be.

I don't know cause we're all so individual when it comes to how we each react to

each kind of AD.

Best thing I can tell you is to talk to your doc about this. I empathize with

you....when I was on Celexa that's all I wanted to do was sleep. If I sat still

for more than 10 minutes I was out! Effexor didn't do that to me. So there are

options if it *is* the Lex. :-)

Barbara

Please Help!

I have been on Lexapro for one year 20mg. I have also been taking 25mg of

vistrial along with it. I stay so tired I quick taking the vistrail hoping

that would help. It has only been one week since I have quit the vistrail. I

love the lexapro it has totally change my life. I can handle so many

situations and not freak out. I was put on lexapro for GAD. I am a worrier.

I also take the Lexapro at night. I realize it is on a time release. Should

I change and take it in the morning or go back to 10mg. I want more energy.

What do all of you do?

Thanks,

, Kentucky

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Please Help!

Group,

My friends, and Hay, have a little 6 month old girl who is scheduled for open heart surgery at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston tomorrow. was born with a congenital heart problem that can only be corrected with open heart surgery. They were in the process of having her admitted today, and the doctors discovered that hasn't been vaccinated. They are putting pressure on the Hays to vaccinate before they will perform the surgery. and are in between a rock and a hard place right now and aren't sure what rights/options they have in this situation. Please help! If you know of anything they can do, please let me know. Please pray for wisdom in this situation for and .

Thanks,

Holly

P.S.: The doctors were talking like they would let them sign a waiver, but now they're talking like they won't allow it.

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Please Help!

Group,

My friends, and Hay, have a little 6 month old girl who is scheduled for open heart surgery at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston tomorrow. was born with a congenital heart problem that can only be corrected with open heart surgery. They were in the process of having her admitted today, and the doctors discovered that hasn't been vaccinated. They are putting pressure on the Hays to vaccinate before they will perform the surgery. and are in between a rock and a hard place right now and aren't sure what rights/options they have in this situation. Please help! If you know of anything they can do, please let me know. Please pray for wisdom in this situation for and .

Thanks,

Holly

P.S.: The doctors were talking like they would let them sign a waiver, but now they're talking like they won't allow it.

[Guest guest]

Hullo Holly. It is unethical to not do surgery on an unvaccinated person. To withhold a needed surgery would be criminal, and most definately sueable. Wag their legal rights in the right places, immediately. To Force a Vaccine on a weakened child is abominal. To give idiotic vaccines prior to a surgery, would more than likely weaken the immune system even more, or worse, and lessen the chances of a good outcome. Tell them to get a lawyer right away, and look over any such waiver offered, ASAP, They are still within their rights not to vaccinate, no matter the pressure. Do tell us how this all unfolds. Tell them to not be afraid of that so-so authority. And to not give into any vaccines at all, Ever! The child certainly is in full rights of a medical exeption, at least, and esp. at this time, Much prayers to that baby and her parents and family, and your, their friend. I feel a good

vaccine/malpractice/medical lawyer is in order, pronto! Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

Hullo Holly. It is unethical to not do surgery on an unvaccinated person. To withhold a needed surgery would be criminal, and most definately sueable. Wag their legal rights in the right places, immediately. To Force a Vaccine on a weakened child is abominal. To give idiotic vaccines prior to a surgery, would more than likely weaken the immune system even more, or worse, and lessen the chances of a good outcome. Tell them to get a lawyer right away, and look over any such waiver offered, ASAP, They are still within their rights not to vaccinate, no matter the pressure. Do tell us how this all unfolds. Tell them to not be afraid of that so-so authority. And to not give into any vaccines at all, Ever! The child certainly is in full rights of a medical exeption, at least, and esp. at this time, Much prayers to that baby and her parents and family, and your, their friend. I feel a good

vaccine/malpractice/medical lawyer is in order, pronto! Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

Religous beleifs, use religion, that does In not allow vacines.

Peace-Love-Oneness

Dona-forced-vaccination , Holly

<holly12079@...> wrote:

>

> Group,

>

> My friends, and Hay, have a little 6 month old girl

who is scheduled for open heart surgery at Texas Children's Hospital

in Houston tomorrow. was born with a congenital heart

problem that can only be corrected with open heart surgery. They

were in the process of having her admitted today, and the doctors

discovered that hasn't been vaccinated. They are putting

pressure on the Hays to vaccinate before they will

perform the surgery. and are in between a rock and a

hard place right now and aren't sure what rights/options they have in

this situation. Please help! If you know of anything they can do,

please let me know. Please pray for wisdom in this situation for

and .

>

> Thanks,

> Holly

>

> P.S.: The doctors were talking like they would let them sign a

waiver, but now they're talking like they won't allow it.

>

[Guest guest]

Please tell them NOT to give in. Her poor immune system is already fighting an uphill and dangerous battle. She'll need all her strength and natural immunities she has to stay strong. Go with religion! Immediately!

Re: Please Help!

Religous beleifs, use religion, that does In not allow vacines.Peace-Love-OnenessDona-forced- vaccination, Holly <holly12079@ ...> wrote:>> Group,> > My friends, and Hay, have a little 6 month old girl who is scheduled for open heart surgery at Texas Children's Hospital in Houston tomorrow. was born with a congenital heart problem that can only be corrected with open heart surgery. They were in the process of having her admitted today, and the doctors discovered that hasn't been vaccinated. They are putting pressure on the Hays to vaccinate before they will perform the surgery. and are in between a rock and a hard place right now and

aren't sure what rights/options they have in this situation. Please help! If you know of anything they can do, please let me know. Please pray for wisdom in this situation for and .> > Thanks,> Holly > > P.S.: The doctors were talking like they would let them sign a waiver, but now they're talking like they won't allow it.>

[Guest guest]

Malfeasance is a legal term that refers to an individual intentionally performing an act that is illegal. Malfeasance is related to two other legal concepts: misfeasance and nonfeasance. Misfeasance, is a legal act performed wrongfully. That is, a public official or a lawyer may do something that is not illegal but is mistaken or erroneous. Nonfeasance

, which is closely related to misfeasance, is the failure to act even though a duty to act existed. I learned these three terms in medical assisting school, applied, of course to the medical profession. They are definately worth looking into in your case, Holly. I really wish you could tell them to shut up about the vaccines and do the surgery! I wish the medical community would just get off the vaccine kkick. It is like they are blind and deaf!! And brainless puppets! Enough for now. I will keep you in my prayers. I hope your child is Okay! Trinakarla walsh <faerie1952@...> wrote: Hullo Holly. It is unethical to not do surgery on an unvaccinated person. To withhold a needed surgery would be criminal, and most definately sueable. Wag their legal rights in the right places, immediately. To Force a Vaccine on a weakened child is abominal. To give idiotic vaccines prior to a surgery, would more than likely weaken the immune system even more, or worse, and lessen the chances of a good outcome. Tell them to get a lawyer right away, and look over any such waiver offered, ASAP, They are still within their rights not to vaccinate, no matter the pressure. Do tell us how this all unfolds. Tell them to not be afraid of that so-so authority. And to not give into any vaccines at all, Ever! The child certainly is in full rights of a medical exeption, at least,

and esp. at this time, Much prayers to that baby and her parents and family, and your, their friend. I feel a good vaccine/malpractice/medical lawyer is in order, pronto! Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Trina

[Guest guest]

>

> Group,

>

> My friends, and Hay, have a little 6 month old girl

who is scheduled for open heart surgery at Texas Children's Hospital

in Houston tomorrow. was born with a congenital heart

problem that can only be corrected with open heart surgery. They

were in the process of having her admitted today, and the doctors

discovered that hasn't been vaccinated. They are putting

pressure on the Hays to vaccinate before they will

perform the surgery. and are in between a rock and a

hard place right now and aren't sure what rights/options they have in

this situation. Please help! If you know of anything they can do,

please let me know. Please pray for wisdom in this situation for

and .

>

> Thanks,

> Holly

>

> P.S.: The doctors were talking like they would let them sign a

waiver, but now they're talking like they won't allow it.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cassie, I will try, though I am not medically qualified, and if you are not able to see your GP until September, I would telephone him as soon as possible. There should be another doctor in your surgery who should be able to help if he is not available. If not, you should see your Practice Manager.

First, we need to know whether or not you are on any form of thyroid hormone replacement. It depends on whether you are or not as to the interpretation of these results. Also, if you go to the website http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk/understanding/analytes/lh/test.html - and you can get an interpretation of each of your individual tests and learn what the results actually mean. This should put your mind at rest.

However, on the assumption that you ARE taking L-thyroxine, and depending how long you have been taking this, your recent TSH is still far too high, which could be an indication you are not taking sufficient T4 and need an increase. Your Free T4 has increased, but it is hard to know whether this inactive hormone is converting to T3 or not. It is the T3 that is the active hormone in the body and has to get into every cell to make it function. I don't know enough about the other results, so hopefully, somebody else who does will come along, but you could phone your doctor, or you could telephone your local pathologoy laboratory where your blood was tested and ask them if they could explain what these mean.

luv - Sheila

Last blood test JulyTSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)latest results (very comprehensive)TSH 6.07FT4 13.7Anti nuclear factor >5000COMA fine speckled pattern: seen in SLE, subacute lupus, Sjongrenssyndrome and scleroderma. Mitotic spindle seen.Thyroid peroxidase antibody >3000 (0.0 - 60.0)Erythrocyte sedimentation rate 41mm (1.0 - 19.o)Serum C 9mg (0.0 - 5.0)Red blood cell count 4.89 10*12/L (3.8 - 4.8)I cannot get to see my GP until September, my Endo appointment is in 2weeks.Help, please...No virus found in this incoming message.

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Hi

Well with my limited knowledge your TSH looks a bit high, well a lot

high and your T4 is a bit on the low side. Ask Bob to give you some

help he is good with this sort of thing.

Luv

>

> Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!

>

> Last blood test July

> TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)

> FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)

>

> latest results (very comprehensive)

> TSH 6.07

> FT4 13.7

> Anti nuclear factor >5000

> COMA fine speckled pattern: seen in SLE, subacute lupus, Sjongrens

> syndrome and scleroderma. Mitotic spindle seen.

> Thyroid peroxidase antibody >3000 (0.0 - 60.0)

> Erythrocyte sedimentation rate 41mm (1.0 - 19.o)

> Serum C 9mg (0.0 - 5.0)

> Red blood cell count 4.89 10*12/L (3.8 - 4.8)

>

> I cannot get to see my GP until September, my Endo appointment is in 2

> weeks.

>

> Help, please...

>

[Guest guest]

I am posting the message that sent to me privately. , please can you check that you are sending messages to the TPA-UK message board and not to me privately please.

Luv - Sheila

Re: Please HELP!

hi

this remind me alot of my resuts but not as high see your endo if no luck there but with these results action is needed asap but looks like you have hashimotos and other autoimmune diseses going on at same time good luck can try seeing private dr recommended email sheila privately about this who are usually better than most nhs drs. anyone know what coma stands for was it under the antinuclear test results for your autoimmune profile

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[Guest guest]

I had my Levo increased 4 weeks ago fron 75 to 125mcg. Managed to get

hold of the surgery this morning and have been told to up my dose to 150.

Am more bothered by these other results though.

> >

> > Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!

> >

> > Last blood test July

> > TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)

> > FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)

> >

> > latest results (very comprehensive)

> > TSH 6.07

> > FT4 13.7

> > Anti nuclear factor >5000

> > COMA fine speckled pattern: seen in SLE, subacute lupus, Sjongrens

> > syndrome and scleroderma. Mitotic spindle seen.

> > Thyroid peroxidase antibody >3000 (0.0 - 60.0)

> > Erythrocyte sedimentation rate 41mm (1.0 - 19.o)

> > Serum C 9mg (0.0 - 5.0)

> > Red blood cell count 4.89 10*12/L (3.8 - 4.8)

> >

> > I cannot get to see my GP until September, my Endo appointment is in 2

> > weeks.

> >

> > Help, please...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think this was meant for me. I cannot afford private this and that

unfortunately. COMA was under ANA TITRE on test results. Thanks.

>

> I am posting the message that sent to me privately. ,

please can you check that you are sending messages to the TPA-UK

message board and not to me privately please.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> Re: Please HELP!

>

>

> hi

> this remind me alot of my resuts but not as high see your endo if no

luck there but with these results action is needed asap but looks like

you have hashimotos and other autoimmune diseses going on at same time

good luck can try seeing private dr recommended email sheila privately

about this who are usually better than most nhs drs. anyone know what

coma stands for was it under the antinuclear test results for your

autoimmune profile

> julie

> No virus found in this incoming message.

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> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date:

11/08/2008 16:59

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Hi Cassie,

http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ana/test.html

from LabTestsOnline:-

ANA shows up on indirect immunofluorescence as fluorescent patterns in cells that are fixed to a slide that is evaluated under a microscope. Different patterns are associated with a variety of autoimmune disorders. Some of the more common patterns include:

Homogenous (diffuse) - associated with SLE and mixed connective tissue disease Speckled - associated with SLE, Sjogren's syndrome, scleroderma, polymyositis, rheumatoid arthritis, and mixed connective tissue disease Nucleolar - associated with scleroderma and polymyositis Outline pattern (peripheral) -associated with SLE

there is also a test for antibodies to the structure that shows up when cells are dividing ( the mitotic spindle).

The COMA pattern of light around an object ( when microscope is slightly out of focus) shows up a fine speckled pattern with the fluorescence arising from the test. ie, the points of light in the speckle pattern are due to the localisation of the antibodies onto discrete samll bodies within the cell/nucleus ~ in fluorescent light, it's otherwise difficult to see them, hence the microscope is made slighly 'out-of-focus' ~ producing what's known as a 'coma' effect.

if the mitotic spindle is seen, it means the antibodies are also attaching to that structure in the cell during cell division and the fluorescence shows it up ~ and is typical of 'Limited' form of Scleroderma; that's a suggestion ~ not a diagnosis.

Thyroid disease can exacerbate or cause many of these autoimmune problems.

If your treatment with thyroxine is restoring some of the main test results to their 'usual' range, other symptoms may begin to improve with the passage of time ~ and that's the big variable ~ just hgow long it takes can depend on how long you've been ill with all those symtoms......it may be weeks, months or longer.

Be patient and persevere with the treatment....and you may need encouragement when you find things going too slowly.

There is light at the end of the tunnel

best wishes

Bob

One important item that won't cost a fortune is a single supplement of selenium ~ from someone like Boots (about £2-3) ~ selenium (50-100 mcg) can help with autoimmune problems. It looks like you have developed at least one autoimmune problem, maybe more.

mcg ~ is micrograms

>> Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!> > Last blood test July> TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)> FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)

[Guest guest]

Test

Reference Ranges (nmol/L)

Salivary Cortisol

8.00am

12 Noon

4.00pm

Midnight

12.0 to 33.0

10.0 to 28.0

6.0 to 11.8

1.0 to 5.0

10.3*

9.4*

3.9*

6.8*

Salivary DHEA Sulphate

8.00am

12 Noon

4.00pm

Midnight

8.0 to 24.0

5.0 to 10.8

3.5 to 7.5

2.0 to 5.0

FEMALE

Age Range 35-44 years

4.1*

2.3*

2.4*

2.8

DHEA-s reference range stated is age and gender related

Comments:

Salivary Cortisol profile:

All values are either borderline or below reference range indicating poor/compromised hormone output on the cortisol pathway

Salivary DHEA-s profile:

All values are either borderline or below reference range indicating poor/compromised hormone output on the DHEA pathway

Overall comment

Suggest repeat profile in 3 to 4 months following medical consultation to monitor progress

Hi Bob These are my salivary profile results from the beginning of July, fairly obvious I need some help with the cortisol output dont you think and that HC will not harm me? Guess i am looking for reasurrance here! Signature:

NB: Tests are undertaken on the understanding that the results will be forwarded to and discussed with a medical practitioner.

From: bob.m9uk <Bob.m9uk@...>Subject: Re: Please HELP!thyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 12:53 PM

Hi Cassie, http://labtestsonli ne.org/understan ding/analytes/ ana/test. html from LabTestsOnline: - ANA shows up on indirect immunofluorescence as fluorescent patterns in cells that are fixed to a slide that is evaluated under a microscope. Different patterns are associated with a variety of autoimmune disorders. Some of the more common patterns include:

Homogenous (diffuse) - associated with SLE and mixed connective tissue disease Speckled - associated with SLE, Sjogren's syndrome, scleroderma, polymyositis, rheumatoid arthritis, and mixed connective tissue disease Nucleolar - associated with scleroderma and polymyositis

Bob

One important item that won't cost a fortune is a single supplement of selenium ~ from someone like Boots (about £2-3) ~ selenium (50-100 mcg) can help with autoimmune problems. It looks like you have developed at least one autoimmune problem, maybe more.

mcg ~ is micrograms

>> Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!> > Last blood test July> TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)> FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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I sent those results for bob to look at but dont think I copied and pasted it right! the last bit is missing, never mind, just after some reasurrance than HC is what I need

From: bob.m9uk <Bob.m9uk (DOT) co.uk>Subject: [thyroidpatientadvo cacy] Re: Please HELP!thyroidpatientadvoc acygroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 12:53 PM

Hi Cassie, http://labtestsonli ne.org/understan ding/analytes/ ana/test. html from LabTestsOnline: - ANA shows up on indirect immunofluorescence as fluorescent patterns in cells that are fixed to a slide that is evaluated under a microscope. Different patterns are associated with a variety of autoimmune disorders. Some of the more common patterns include:

Homogenous (diffuse) - associated with SLE and mixed connective tissue disease Speckled - associated with SLE, Sjogren's syndrome, scleroderma, polymyositis, rheumatoid arthritis, and mixed connective tissue disease Nucleolar - associated with scleroderma and polymyositis

Bob

One important item that won't cost a fortune is a single supplement of selenium ~ from someone like Boots (about £2-3) ~ selenium (50-100 mcg) can help with autoimmune problems. It looks like you have developed at least one autoimmune problem, maybe more.

mcg ~ is micrograms

>> Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!> > Last blood test July> TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)> FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger . Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for that, it certainly makes things a bit clearer.

I was trying to work out what the other stuff was all about until i

realised someone else is posting their stuff im my thread.

>

> Thyroid disease can exacerbate or cause many of these autoimmune

> problems.

>

> If your treatment with thyroxine is restoring some of the main test

> results to their 'usual' range, other symptoms may begin to improve with

> the passage of time ~ and that's the big variable ~ just hgow long it

> takes can depend on how long you've been ill with all those

> symtoms......it may be weeks, months or longer.

>

> Be patient and persevere with the treatment....and you may need

> encouragement when you find things going too slowly.

>

> There is light at the end of the tunnel

>

> best wishes

>

> Bob

>

> One important item that won't cost a fortune is a single supplement of

> selenium ~ from someone like Boots (about £2-3) ~ selenium (50-100

> mcg) can help with autoimmune problems. It looks like you have developed

> at least one autoimmune problem, maybe more.

>

> mcg ~ is micrograms

>

>

> >

> > Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!

> >

> > Last blood test July

> > TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)

> > FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)

>

[Guest guest]

That may be me, sorry

From: cassiecfc <cassiecfc@...>Subject: Re: Please HELP!thyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 4:05 PM

Thank you so much for that, it certainly makes things a bit clearer.I was trying to work out what the other stuff was all about until irealised someone else is posting their stuff im my thread.> > Thyroid disease can exacerbate or cause many of these autoimmune> problems.> > If your treatment with thyroxine is restoring some of the main test> results to their 'usual' range, other symptoms may begin to improve with> the passage of time ~ and that's the big variable ~ just hgow long it> takes can depend on how long you've been ill with all those> symtoms..... .it may be weeks, months or longer.> > Be patient and persevere with the treatment... .and you may need> encouragement when you find things going too slowly.> > There is light at the end of the tunnel> > best wishes> > Bob> > One important

item that won't cost a fortune is a single supplement of> selenium ~ from someone like Boots (about £2-3) ~ selenium (50-100> mcg) can help with autoimmune problems. It looks like you have developed> at least one autoimmune problem, maybe more.> > mcg ~ is micrograms> > > >> > Can anyone put this into plain english for me please!> >> > Last blood test July> > TSH 14.72 (o.3 - 5.6)> > FT4 9.7 (7.5 - 21.1)>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.

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The antibotics can cause yeast can slow things upSent via BlackBerry from T-MobileFrom: "stacysue12" <stacysue12@...>Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:24:58 -0000< >Subject: please help! i have been on the hcg diet for 5 days now and i have not lost that much weight a total of 3.5 pounds i dont know if i am doing something wrong i am following the protocol to a T. any advice on what to do. Also i have to take a round of antibiotics does anyone know how that will effect my weight lose i have not started taking them yet but any advice would be helpful thanks

[Guest guest]

, the average weight loss for women on this protocol is ½ pound

a day and a pound for men. So you are still doing better than the average….Be

patient, it will kick in for you Ruth

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of stacysue12

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:25 PM

Subject: please help!

i have been on the hcg diet for 5 days now and

i have not lost that

much weight a total of 3.5 pounds i dont know if i am doing something

wrong i am following the protocol to a T. any advice on what to do.

Also i have to take a round of antibiotics does anyone know how that

will effect my weight lose i have not started taking them yet but any

advice would be helpful thanks

[Guest guest]

, the average weight loss for women on this protocol is ½ pound

a day and a pound for men. So you are still doing better than the average….Be

patient, it will kick in for you Ruth

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf

Of stacysue12

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:25 PM

Subject: please help!

i have been on the hcg diet for 5 days now and

i have not lost that

much weight a total of 3.5 pounds i dont know if i am doing something

wrong i am following the protocol to a T. any advice on what to do.

Also i have to take a round of antibiotics does anyone know how that

will effect my weight lose i have not started taking them yet but any

advice would be helpful thanks

[Guest guest]

There is something wrong. Do you have a copy of the real protocol?

Pounds and Inches. You can find a copy in the Files section. The food

list is on p60 or so. Are you going to a clinic? Many people get bad

advice from clinic who want you to keep coming back. I only ask

because many people think they are following the protocl but when they

tell us what that it turns out not to be the real one. You could also

post a couple of days menus and we will see what we can discover.

>

> i have been on the hcg diet for 5 days now and i have not lost that

> much weight a total of 3.5 pounds i dont know if i am doing something

> wrong i am following the protocol to a T. any advice on what to do.

> Also i have to take a round of antibiotics does anyone know how that

> will effect my weight lose i have not started taking them yet but any

> advice would be helpful thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> So here's my word of warning. If you are willing to risk (actually your

husband) what other organs it will damage then go for it and believe the Dr's

but if you want to make sure it is safe then tell your husband to take his time

and research. Papillary thyroid cancer is very slow growing and if you are on a

suppressive dose of thyroid meds it doesn't grow / if at all quickly. Don't

just listen to the doctors or others experiences.

I'm so new to this that I don't know what a suppressive dose of thyroid meds is?

Is that the thyroid replacement or something else?

Pamela

[Guest guest]

Yes it is what they do with thyroid cancer patients. It is keeping the TSH to .1 or below. That is the recommended treatment. That being said, using Armour thyroid to the correct dose will do this easily. Synthetics like Synthroid and Levoxyl (which most Dr's prescribe and don't work well) is more difficult while keeping people from feeling bad.

Steph

Re: Please help!

> So here's my word of warning. If you are willing to risk (actually your husband) what other organs it will damage then go for it and believe the Dr's but if you want to make sure it is safe then tell your husband to take his time and research. Papillary thyroid cancer is very slow growing and if you are on a suppressive dose of thyroid meds it doesn't grow / if at all quickly. Don't just listen to the doctors or others experiences. I'm so new to this that I don't know what a suppressive dose of thyroid meds is? Is that the thyroid replacement or something else?Pamela