Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect. Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both. I hope this is helpful. - from Maine Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 sorry to be so blunt, but most docs are wrong. you absolutely must take probiotics with (not at the same exact time) antibiotics to make sure the good flora isn't killed. I don't know who these most docs are, but I have been to many docs in several states and have never heard that from any of them and never read that anywhere. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:42 PM, C. Meader <ryan@...> wrote: I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect. Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both. I hope this is helpful. - from Maine Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 Most antibiotics are broad spectrum and so you must replace beneficial bacteria as the drug will those as well.The idea that beneficial bacteria are ABX resistant and can counter the effects of ABX thereby preventing them from reducing bacterial overgrowth must have been a story made up by someone who does not understand how ABX work.Jackie I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect. Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both. I hope this is helpful. - from Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Thanks but most people on the Antibiotic Protocol do take a probiotic to prevent yeast and other issues, and they are not concerned that it will affect the strength of the antibiotic. My concern is rather the LDN and if I can take it at the same time. > > I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect. > > Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both. > > I hope this is helpful. > > - from Maine > > Sent from my iPad > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 The only substances I am aware of than definitely cannot be taken with LDN are opiates.Have you read somewhere that probiotics are contraindicated with LDN? Is that what has prompted your question? If so, please tell us where you read or heard this. It simply is nottrue.JackieFrom: marlaprendergast <kws11@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re:Can LDN be taken at the same time as a probioticlow dose naltrexone Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 6:06 PMThanks but most people on the Antibiotic Protocol do take a probiotic to prevent yeast and other issues, and they are not concerned that it will affect the strength of the antibiotic. My concern is rather the LDN and if I can take it at the same time.>> I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect.> > Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both.> > I hope this is helpful.> > - from Maine> > Sent from my iPad>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 Nope, never heard or read it. Just checking. > > > > I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect. > > > > Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both. > > > > I hope this is helpful. > > > > - from Maine > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2010 Report Share Posted August 4, 2010 I have taken long term antibiotics for years...which are taken after meals....breakfast and dinner. At night between 9-10 PM, I take my probiotic with my LDN; my LDN is filled with acidophilus. My doctor has always told me if I forget my evening antibiotic on time...I must allow a 2 hour window before taking the probiotic. Also, I take the triple encapsulated pearls which allows the beneficial bacteria to survive the stomach acid...it gets delivered into the intestines at the opportune time. I take double the recommended dosage on the box. I hope this helps. TorreyPresidentNational Tick-Borne Disease Advocates >> I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not, but most docs seem to think that taking a probiotic with an antibiotic will make the antibiotic much less effective -- and that the probiotic will not be nearly effective as it normally would in helping with the digestive problems because the beneficial flora and the antibiotic will cancel each other out, in effect.> > Most will suggest waiting until the antibiotic is finished to begin a probiotic. With long-term antibiotic treatment, I'm not sure how these factors play in.....I could see a probiotic helping somewhat with the digestive side effects, but it could hinder the antibiotic treatment and you'd probably have to take much higher than normal doses of both.> > I hope this is helpful.> > - from Maine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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