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That website is now not accessible for some reason. Here is another site with

the info on this fluoride cancer link.

http://fluoridealert.org/fox-transcript.html

--- Murray <doublaswalter@...> wrote:

> Link will not open . tried a dozen times over an hour.

> Cheerss, Doug

> > " Harvard: Prof Did Not " Intentionally " Suppress Fluoride-Cancer Study

> > Showing Strong Link Between Fluoride and Bone Cancer in Boys "

> >

> > " It is a sad day for Harvard when such a blatant financial conflict of

> > interest is acceptable, particularly when the health of children is at

stake, "

> >

> > http://www.ewg.org/issues/fluoride/20060816/index.php

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Tea???

-- Fluoride

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Chuck, do you use flouride toothpaste? What do you tell the dentist?

Yes, I do. Studies have shown that absorption from brushing is too small

to detect. The " varnish " that the dentist applies does cause a small but

detectable pulse in absorption, but this only lasts about 24 hours. You

get much more fluoride internally than either of these from drinking

water or especially from tea.

Chuck

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yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my water but

then I

drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Crystal " <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

>

> Tea???

>

> -- Fluoride

>

> Crystal,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> > Chuck, do you use flouride toothpaste? What do you tell the dentist?

>

> Yes, I do. Studies have shown that absorption from brushing is too small

> to detect. The " varnish " that the dentist applies does cause a small but

> detectable pulse in absorption, but this only lasts about 24 hours. You

> get much more fluoride internally than either of these from drinking

> water or especially from tea.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Chuck! I drink one cup of pure Senna tea once a week for my IBS. Are you

saying that Senna tea has fluoride in it???? Thank You, D999

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Chuck, do you use flouride toothpaste? What do you tell the dentist?

Yes, I do. Studies have shown that absorption from brushing is too small

to detect. The " varnish " that the dentist applies does cause a small but

detectable pulse in absorption, but this only lasts about 24 hours. You

get much more fluoride internally than either of these from drinking

water or especially from tea.

Chuck

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Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Tea???

Yes. Camellia sinensis concentrates fluoride from the soil. When

fermented, this concentrates it even further. Consequently, green tea

has only a fraction of the fluoride of Earl Grey, but it still has much

more than you get from brushing your teeth. Herbal teas are mostly OK on

this score.

Chuck

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Dauphine:

You wrote:

>

>

> Hi Chuck! I drink one cup of pure Senna tea once a week for my IBS. Are

> you saying that Senna tea has fluoride in it????

Nope. Senna (cassia angustifolia) is different from tea (camellia

sinensis). Both are very ancient, though.

Chuck

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This is really bad news for me. Tell me again why flouride is soooo bad? :}

-- Re: Fluoride

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Tea???

Yes. Camellia sinensis concentrates fluoride from the soil. When

fermented, this concentrates it even further. Consequently, green tea

has only a fraction of the fluoride of Earl Grey, but it still has much

more than you get from brushing your teeth. Herbal teas are mostly OK on

this score.

Chuck

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Crystal wrote:

>

>

> This is really bad news for me. Tell me again why flouride is soooo bad? :}

It attacks the thyroid gland and destroys thyroxine in serum. This is

not such a big deal, if your thyroid is already nonfunctioning and you

are medicated. If you still have some function left, though, fluoride

will reduce the output and eventually destroy it.

Chuck

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What's that you say? Tea promotes my thyroid gland and improves the

thyroxine in serum? :]

-- Re: Fluoride

Crystal wrote:

>

>

> This is really bad news for me. Tell me again why flouride is soooo bad?

:}

It attacks the thyroid gland and destroys thyroxine in serum. This is

not such a big deal, if your thyroid is already nonfunctioning and you

are medicated. If you still have some function left, though, fluoride

will reduce the output and eventually destroy it.

Chuck

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Vanizia-

Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact thing. I really want to give up

this fluoride crap. What brands of water DEFFINITELY don't have any fluoride

in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this before ... I've been

pretty out of it these past two weeks and haven't kept up with these posts

either.

I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in the emergency room a couple

times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on my feet and stitch them up. I

was walking around NYC in slippers for like a week and a half lol. Things

have been pretty rough for me lately.

In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM, nelsonck@... writes:

>

> yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my water

> but then I

> drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

>

> Venizia

>

>

>

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Oh ! That's sounds very painful. Is everything ok? Do you know why you

broke out

in hives? I breakout in hives among other symptoms when I have food or drink or

meds

with sulfites in them....do you have a sulfite sensitivity? Were the hives on

your feet or is

that not related? Sorry for all the questions. I just feel really bad for

you....you sound like

such a sweet person.

I guess if I have herbal tea, I am ok....according to Chuck's post but yeh this

fluoride is not

good stuff for anyone. Do you get Dr Mercola's newsletter? He has a lot of

info on this.

Hang in there and take care,

Venizia

>

> Vanizia-

>

> Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact thing. I really want to give up

> this fluoride crap. What brands of water DEFFINITELY don't have any fluoride

> in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this before ... I've been

> pretty out of it these past two weeks and haven't kept up with these posts

either.

> I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in the emergency room a couple

> times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on my feet and stitch them up. I

> was walking around NYC in slippers for like a week and a half lol. Things

> have been pretty rough for me lately.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM, nelsonck@... writes:

> >

> > yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my water

> > but then I

> > drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

> >

> > Venizia

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Venizia-

I always love that caffiene kick in the morning so perhaps I'll give up my

earl grey and go back to coffee. This last breakout was pretty bad. I say

hives because it is quick and easy (i'm so lazy, lol) but I went to the ER each

time because they really didn't seem like typical hives to me. The

dermatologists all thought it was dermatitis herpetiformous (a result of celiac

disease -

gluten intolerance), but all the biopsies came back negative, their only

answer was it was a sensitivity thing. It started on my knees and elbows, which

=

dermatitis herpetiformous, but then I tested positive for that dermagraphic

stuff so it spread all over my hands, forearms, feet, and all along the soles of

my feet because there is pressure <<haha>> (nervous laughter). Thanks for

your concern, I hope you are doing well!

In a message dated 10/10/07 3:18:03 PM, nelsonck@... writes:

>

> Oh ! That's sounds very painful. Is everything ok? Do you know why you

> broke out

> in hives? I breakout in hives among other symptoms when I have food or drink

> or meds

> with sulfites in them....do you have a sulfite sensitivity? Were the hives

> on your feet or is

> that not related? Sorry for all the questions. I just feel really bad for

> you....you sound like

> such a sweet person.

>

> I guess if I have herbal tea, I am ok....according to Chuck's post but yeh

> this fluoride is not

> good stuff for anyone. Do you get Dr Mercola's newsletter? He has a lot of

> info on this.

>

> Hang in there and take care,

> Venizia

>

> --- In hypothyroidism@hypothyroidihyp, bear339@, be

> >

> > Vanizia-

> >

> > Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact thing. I really want to give up

> > this fluoride crap. What brands of water DEFFINITELY don't have any

> fluoride

> > in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this before ... I've been

> > pretty out of it these past two weeks and haven't kept up with these posts

> either.

> > I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in the emergency room a

> couple

> > times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on my feet and stitch them up.

> I

> > was walking around NYC in slippers for like a week and a half lol. Things

> > have been pretty rough for me lately.

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM, nelsonck@... writes:

> > >

> > > yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my

> water

> > > but then I

> > > drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

> > >

> > > Venizia

>

>

>

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how much Iodoral are you taking? or is it just iodine? Oftentimes ppl get

rashes/hives from bromide detox. you should be on enough iodine/iodide and do

the detox protocol on http://www.breastcancerchoices.org

Gracia

Venizia-

I always love that caffiene kick in the morning so perhaps I'll give up my

earl grey and go back to coffee. This last breakout was pretty bad. I say

hives because it is quick and easy (i'm so lazy, lol) but I went to the ER

each

time because they really didn't seem like typical hives to me. The

dermatologists all thought it was dermatitis herpetiformous (a result of

celiac disease -

gluten intolerance), but all the biopsies came back negative, their only

answer was it was a sensitivity thing. It started on my knees and elbows,

which =

dermatitis herpetiformous, but then I tested positive for that dermagraphic

stuff so it spread all over my hands, forearms, feet, and all along the soles

of

my feet because there is pressure <<haha>> (nervous laughter). Thanks for

your concern, I hope you are doing well!

In a message dated 10/10/07 3:18:03 PM, nelsonck@... writes:

>

> Oh ! That's sounds very painful. Is everything ok? Do you know why you

> broke out

> in hives? I breakout in hives among other symptoms when I have food or drink

> or meds

> with sulfites in them....do you have a sulfite sensitivity? Were the hives

> on your feet or is

> that not related? Sorry for all the questions. I just feel really bad for

> you....you sound like

> such a sweet person.

>

> I guess if I have herbal tea, I am ok....according to Chuck's post but yeh

> this fluoride is not

> good stuff for anyone. Do you get Dr Mercola's newsletter? He has a lot of

> info on this.

>

> Hang in there and take care,

> Venizia

>

> --- In hypothyroidism@hypothyroidihyp, bear339@, be

> >

> > Vanizia-

> >

> > Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact thing. I really want to give up

> > this fluoride crap. What brands of water DEFFINITELY don't have any

> fluoride

> > in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this before ... I've been

> > pretty out of it these past two weeks and haven't kept up with these posts

> either.

> > I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in the emergency room a

> couple

> > times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on my feet and stitch them up.

> I

> > was walking around NYC in slippers for like a week and a half lol. Things

> > have been pretty rough for me lately.

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM, nelsonck@... writes:

> > >

> > > yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my

> water

> > > but then I

> > > drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

> > >

> > > Venizia

>

>

>

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Hi ! I had the same thing skin rash. Mine itched so much. I went to the

hospital with it and they said it was an allergic reaction but didn't say to

what. My eyes had yellow fluid coming out of them. I told them that my dog had

the same thing as I did. They only disregarded what I said. My Dog died from

this and I almost did also. Then they said that I was Hypothyroid. They gave me

..75mcg Levothyroxine. I then lost 35 lbs in one month, Adema and rash went away

in less than a few days. I am still on the Levothyroxine and almost OK. I cut

out the gluten and bread. Sometimes I eat bread or cake that is gluten free and

Wheat free. Arrowhead Mills Gluten Free Pancake & Baking Mix and Gluten-Free

Pantry Sandwitch bread mix are 2 of the products I use to make my own bread.

They are sold in A & P stores across the country. I hope you feel better. I know

what you went through. Be Well, Dauphine999

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

how much Iodoral are you taking? or is it just iodine? Oftentimes ppl get

rashes/hives from bromide detox. you should be on enough iodine/iodide and do

the detox protocol on http://www.breastcancerchoices.org

Gracia

Venizia-

I always love that caffiene kick in the morning so perhaps I'll give up my

earl grey and go back to coffee. This last breakout was pretty bad. I say

hives because it is quick and easy (i'm so lazy, lol) but I went to the ER each

time because they really didn't seem like typical hives to me. The

dermatologists all thought it was dermatitis herpetiformous (a result of celiac

disease -

gluten intolerance), but all the biopsies came back negative, their only

answer was it was a sensitivity thing. It started on my knees and elbows, which

=

dermatitis herpetiformous, but then I tested positive for that dermagraphic

stuff so it spread all over my hands, forearms, feet, and all along the soles of

my feet because there is pressure <<haha>> (nervous laughter). Thanks for

your concern, I hope you are doing well!

In a message dated 10/10/07 3:18:03 PM, nelsonck@... writes:

>

> Oh ! That's sounds very painful. Is everything ok? Do you know why you

> broke out

> in hives? I breakout in hives among other symptoms when I have food or drink

> or meds

> with sulfites in them....do you have a sulfite sensitivity? Were the hives

> on your feet or is

> that not related? Sorry for all the questions. I just feel really bad for

> you....you sound like

> such a sweet person.

>

> I guess if I have herbal tea, I am ok....according to Chuck's post but yeh

> this fluoride is not

> good stuff for anyone. Do you get Dr Mercola's newsletter? He has a lot of

> info on this.

>

> Hang in there and take care,

> Venizia

>

> --- In hypothyroidism@hypothyroidihyp, bear339@, be

> >

> > Vanizia-

> >

> > Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact thing. I really want to give up

> > this fluoride crap. What brands of water DEFFINITELY don't have any

> fluoride

> > in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this before ... I've been

> > pretty out of it these past two weeks and haven't kept up with these posts

> either.

> > I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in the emergency room a

> couple

> > times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on my feet and stitch them up.

> I

> > was walking around NYC in slippers for like a week and a half lol. Things

> > have been pretty rough for me lately.

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM, nelsonck@... writes:

> > >

> > > yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I am worrying about my

> water

> > > but then I

> > > drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

> > >

> > > Venizia

>

>

>

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I didn't state that the fluoride was naturally occurring. In fact the town's water supply is supplemented with fluoride. Thus it is not natural.. Either way fluoride is fluoride. Natural or not it's getting into products that we consume everyday.

Re: What is new at the conference?

.. Fluoride is in the water that is put on our food in the fields. So unless you eat organic you run a risk.

I just want to state something here, I work for an organic dairy product manufacturer and the water they used was right from the fluoridated town water supply. Yes, it was filtered in the plant but what exactly was filtered? As a matter of fact the filtration system didn't work very good all the time. Believe me. I saw a few things I wish I hadn't. Anyway, just a thought. and my .02..

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Stay away from nuts of all kinds while the hives are active. Even if you

are not allergic to them, they can aggravate the histamine response.

Also, if you start getting swollen lips or hives on the face, ask your

doctor for an epi pen. If the hives reach your windpipe, they can kill.

Chuck

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Coffee actually has more caffeine than tea.

Roni

--- bear339@... wrote:

> Venizia-

>

> I always love that caffiene kick in the morning so

> perhaps I'll give up my

> earl grey and go back to coffee. This last

> breakout was pretty bad. I say

> hives because it is quick and easy (i'm so lazy,

> lol) but I went to the ER each

> time because they really didn't seem like typical

> hives to me. The

> dermatologists all thought it was dermatitis

> herpetiformous (a result of celiac disease -

> gluten intolerance), but all the biopsies came back

> negative, their only

> answer was it was a sensitivity thing. It started on

> my knees and elbows, which =

> dermatitis herpetiformous, but then I tested

> positive for that dermagraphic

> stuff so it spread all over my hands, forearms,

> feet, and all along the soles of

> my feet because there is pressure <<haha>> (nervous

> laughter). Thanks for

> your concern, I hope you are doing well!

>

>

>

> In a message dated 10/10/07 3:18:03 PM,

> nelsonck@... writes:

> >

> > Oh ! That's sounds very painful. Is

> everything ok? Do you know why you

> > broke out

> > in hives? I breakout in hives among other symptoms

> when I have food or drink

> > or meds

> > with sulfites in them....do you have a sulfite

> sensitivity? Were the hives

> > on your feet or is

> > that not related? Sorry for all the questions. I

> just feel really bad for

> > you....you sound like

> > such a sweet person.

> >

> > I guess if I have herbal tea, I am ok....according

> to Chuck's post but yeh

> > this fluoride is not

> > good stuff for anyone. Do you get Dr Mercola's

> newsletter? He has a lot of

> > info on this.

> >

> > Hang in there and take care,

> > Venizia

> >

> > --- In hypothyroidism@hypothyroidihyp,

> bear339@, be

> > >

> > > Vanizia-

> > >

> > > Hahaha, I was just thinking the SAME exact

> thing. I really want to give up

> > > this fluoride crap. What brands of water

> DEFFINITELY don't have any

> > fluoride

> > > in them? Sorry I know everyone talked about this

> before ... I've been

> > > pretty out of it these past two weeks and

> haven't kept up with these posts

> > either.

> > > I had a super bad hive breakout and ended up in

> the emergency room a

> > couple

> > > times. They had to take a bunch of biopsies on

> my feet and stitch them up.

> > I

> > > was walking around NYC in slippers for like a

> week and a half lol. Things

> > > have been pretty rough for me lately.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 10/4/07 11:39:39 AM,

> nelsonck@... writes:

> > > >

> > > > yeh, I am worried about that one too!!! Here I

> am worrying about my

> > water

> > > > but then I

> > > > drink a cup of tea EVERY morning!!!

> > > >

> > > > Venizia

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/11/07 11:23:40 AM, circe@... writes:

Gracia-

I am not taking any iodine right now and I hadn't been for a while before

" the plague " oh my mistake, I mean " the rash " occured. I was taking the standard

process stuff but was concerned with how much calcium was in it. There are so

many things I want to try (iodoral, etc.) but I am in negative money right now

and just don't have any time :-( How have you been though Gracia? How is

everything?

Take care!

>

>

> how much Iodoral are you taking? or is it just iodine? Oftentimes ppl get

> rashes/hives from bromide detox. you should be on enough iodine/iodide and do

> the detox protocol on http://www.breastcahttp://www.bhtt

> Gracia

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Wow that is really fascinating! Were you ever diagnosed with celiac disease?

I have been mostly okay with this skin stuff but have these terrible outbreaks

every now and then. I want to give up gluten but want a celiac diagnosis

first if it's there. Keep me posted on how everything is with you!

In a message dated 10/11/07 12:57:14 PM, dauphine999@... writes:

>

> Hi ! I had the same thing skin rash. Mine itched so much. I went to

> the hospital with it and they said it was an allergic reaction but didn't say

> to what. My eyes had yellow fluid coming out of them. I told them that my dog

> had the same thing as I did. They only disregarded what I said. My Dog died

> from this and I almost did also. Then they said that I was Hypothyroid. They

> gave me .75mcg Levothyroxine. I then lost 35 lbs in one month, Adema and rash

> went away in less than a few days. I am still on the Levothyroxine and almost

> OK. I cut out the gluten and bread. Sometimes I eat bread or cake that is

> gluten free and Wheat free. Arrowhead Mills Gluten Free Pancake & Baking Mix

> and Gluten-Free Pantry Sandwitch bread mix are 2 of the products I use to make

> my own bread. They are sold in A & P stores across the country. I hope you feel

> better. I know what you went through. Be Well, Dauphine999

>

>

>

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Chuck-

Thanks so much for the advice! I had no idea nuts can still be an issue even

if you aren't allergic. It's like an art trying to work with the breakouts -

cold showers, anti-histamines as soon as possible, steroids if the swelling

gets too bad. Thanks for the reminder about the epi-pens. The first time I

was introduced to them was when I got diagnosed with hashi's and this stuff

spread across half my face causing one of my eyes to toally swell shut. Good

times. Super attractive too lol. Thanks for your help Chuck!

Take care!

In a message dated 10/11/07 6:11:00 PM, gumboyaya@... writes:

>

> ,

>

> Stay away from nuts of all kinds while the hives are active. Even if you

> are not allergic to them, they can aggravate the histamine response.

> Also, if you start getting swollen lips or hives on the face, ask your

> doctor for an epi pen. If the hives reach your windpipe, they can kill.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

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oh I think the Iodoral is crucial, as important as thyroid meds. it is the

cure for the breakouts and " celiac " etc. with Iodoral I think you would need

less Armour too.

I have been OK, just working all the time, but fall in Maine is beautiful.

Gracia

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Gracia-

I am not taking any iodine right now and I hadn't been for a while before

" the plague " oh my mistake, I mean " the rash " occured. I was taking the

standard

process stuff but was concerned with how much calcium was in it. There are so

many things I want to try (iodoral, etc.) but I am in negative money right now

and just don't have any time :-( How have you been though Gracia? How is

everything?

Take care!

>

>

> how much Iodoral are you taking? or is it just iodine? Oftentimes ppl get

> rashes/hives from bromide detox. you should be on enough iodine/iodide and

do

> the detox protocol on http://www.breastcahttp://www.bhtt

> Gracia

>

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Hazel wrote:

> what may help if you do have a lot of fluoride in your system/environment.

>

> Can you recommend any sites that would be good to read?

>

Somewhere I found a site that listed what types of tea (regular teas,

camellia sinensis) had the most/least fluoride, maybe a google would

find it for you.

Sorry I don't have any sites, just what I've read on email lists, and

from google searches on fluoride and thyroid.

I've cut back my tea drinking. Painful. I love tea. And what tea I do

still drink, I drink far weaker nowadays.

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In this day and age, what responsible website tries to say that

fluoride in any form is not harmful?

Tea is also the plant which tends to be drenched the most with toxins.

One can obtain organic tea, but it is expensive and hard to find.

Alobar

On 5/28/08, Hazel <hazelalexander@...> wrote:

> Sol

> after reading your post I was very concerned as I drink a lot of tea and a

couple of years ago swapped to green tea instead of black because I 'thought' it

was better for me.

>

> I've now read several articles some saying fluoride is harmful, some saying

it's not, but none of them are particulary helpful in saying what may help if

you do have a lot of fluoride in your system/environment.

>

> Can you recommend any sites that would be good to read?

>

> Many thanks

>

> Hazel

>

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So, does organic tea not have flouride? I love Zhena's Gypsy Tea, Coconut Chai,

and it's been a primary way for me to get my coconut oil in (since it solidifies

on salad, even when I mix it with olive oil). Without tea, I don't know how I'll

get it in. But I don't want flouride. I don't use flouride toothpaste, and don't

drink my flouridated tap water. I do supplement with iodine/iodide. I lost my

thyroid to cancer in 2006.

---- Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

> In this day and age, what responsible website tries to say that

> fluoride in any form is not harmful?

>

> Tea is also the plant which tends to be drenched the most with toxins.

> One can obtain organic tea, but it is expensive and hard to find.

>

> Alobar

>

> On 5/28/08, Hazel <hazelalexander@...> wrote:

> > Sol

> > after reading your post I was very concerned as I drink a lot of tea and a

couple of years ago swapped to green tea instead of black because I 'thought' it

was better for me.

> >

> > I've now read several articles some saying fluoride is harmful, some saying

it's not, but none of them are particulary helpful in saying what may help if

you do have a lot of fluoride in your system/environment.

> >

> > Can you recommend any sites that would be good to read?

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Hazel

> >

> >

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