Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)

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If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHoIn this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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She can give her child distilled water, adding the lost minerals back into it. It's easier than moving to another county.JackieFrom: Elanne Kresser <elanne@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHoIn this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the

water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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It's true for drinking, although we absorb a tremendous amount when we shower or bathe, wash our veggies and fruit, if we want a garden our vegetables absorb a bunch of it. In the end they have moved to another county because the East Bay (of San Francisco) is so heavily fluoridated.On Jun 25, 2010, at 8:54 AM, carcinoidwarrior wrote:She can give her child distilled water, adding the lost minerals back into it. It's easier than moving to another county.JackieFrom: Elanne Kresser <elanne@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHoIn this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the

water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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It's true - I wonder what the cost of a whole house reverse osmosis system costs these days - I think they've come down significantly from ten to twenty years ago. I know they leave some pollutants in but you could distill the drinking and cooking water.Berkeley too is heavily fluoridated? Kind of surprised if that is so. Maybe I shouldn't be.JackieFrom: Elanne Kresser <elanne@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHoIn this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the

water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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yup, the whole East Bay is heavily fluoridated. whole house reverse osmosis sounds good. so does starting a movement to get fluoride out of the water! one of the many movements......On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:56 AM, carcinoidwarrior wrote:It's true - I wonder what the cost of a whole house reverse osmosis system costs these days - I think they've come down significantly from ten to twenty years ago. I know they leave some pollutants in but you could distill the drinking and cooking water.Berkeley too is heavily fluoridated? Kind of surprised if that is so. Maybe I shouldn't be.JackieFrom: Elanne Kresser <elanne@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHoIn this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the

water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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I just installed a whole house filter - it is not reverse osmosis and it removes the majority of fluoride (to 4 ppb) it also removes lead, chloride, bacteria, etc., but I had to have an additional filter installed under my sink to take out the remaining fluoride. The good thing about it is that since it isn't reverse osmosis, the water is alkalai and not acidic which is a benefit for our bodies - it is good to have your body alkalai and not acidic. I also have a shower filter to take out fluoride. It cost me $3200 for everything.

Thanks,

Judy

[low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this:

In this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.

I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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what makes you think RO water is acidic?

pure water is perfectly neutral pH. impurities make it either + or - 7.0 pH. the more impurities removed the closer to 7.0 it gets.

i don't have a pH meter, or test strips, but will get one or the other one day and my guess is my water which reads real close to 0>0 microseimans conductance indication 0.0 TDS total dissolved solids and with the alumina cartridge should be so close to 7.0 as to be essentially there. i don't know what the Concentrace mineral drops that i add to it for drinking and cooking do to it... very curious to find out.

when you talk about your body being alkiline and not acidic just what part of your body are you talking about? do you really know what you're talking about there? that's a rather complex matter. your body tends to regulate pH of blood very closely not matter what it takes and no matter what you ingest or soak in. the meanings of urine and salifa pH are very limited. i'm no expert, but i find it funny & pitiful how people buy into a lot of body pH sales hype without understanding anything about the physiology of what's really going on. i'm NOT saying that all those dietary things that supposedly "make the body more alkaline" aren't a good thing with benefits... but the hoopla about what's going on is rather farcical from what i've learned.

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Bob and JudySent: Friday, June 25, 2010 3:30 PMcarcinoidwarrior; Elanne KresserCc: low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)

I just installed a whole house filter - it is not reverse osmosis and it removes the majority of fluoride (to 4 ppb) it also removes lead, chloride, bacteria, etc., but I had to have an additional filter installed under my sink to take out the remaining fluoride. The good thing about it is that since it isn't reverse osmosis, the water is alkalai and not acidic which is a benefit for our bodies - it is good to have your body alkalai and not acidic. I also have a shower filter to take out fluoride. It cost me $3200 for everything.

Thanks,

Judy

[low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this:

In this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.

I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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I have a system like this installed under my sink, for drinking water. Hope

eventually to have a whole house system. New technologies allow multi-stage

filter systems to remove flouride and then remove the aluminum added in

during that stage. It really works. So RO is no longer the only

option. My brand is Crystal Quest, there are others.

>I just installed a whole house filter - it is not reverse osmosis and it

>removes the majority of fluoride (to 4 ppb) it also removes lead,

>chloride, bacteria, etc., but I had to have an additional filter installed

>under my sink to take out the remaining fluoride. The good thing about it

>is that since it isn't reverse osmosis, the water is alkalai and not

>acidic which is a benefit for our bodies - it is good to have your body

>alkalai and not acidic. I also have a shower filter to take out

>fluoride. It cost me $3200 for everything.

>

>Thanks,

>

>Judy

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Simple, Move out of cities into Far area where we drink well water

having nor Fluoride, chlorine and poisons by government. Then if will

affect nothing you put in your body like LDN. We have lived country

all our lives with well water. Yes we check it every 5 to 8 years. Nary

a problem. We are 112 feet down into an underground River caused by a

fault maybe a million years ago. We can go to a city and smell the

Chlorine in the water and never drink water in a city. Fluoride is the

poisonous by product of Producing Aluminum and Glass. Look it up in a

chem engineering and Process hand book The Lab I worked in for 40

years had well water and filter beds that kept Ph at 7.0 and never

allowed to go below 6.0, gave us deionized and distilled water for lab

work and the drinking fountains were just pure well water.

Big Al

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" The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest

liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them

the truth. " -- H.L. Mencken

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A lot of city areas have well water/spring water available in stores or direct from the source, or you can drive out of town a bit and collect it. This won't alleviate the problem of absorption through the skin or through your vegetables/fruits, but it's a start... and less disruptive to your financial life than moving...~EileenPosted by: "Big Al" bigal123@... manitto27565Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:07 pm (PDT)Simple, Move out of cities into Far area where we drink well water having nor Fluoride, chlorine and poisons by government. Then if will affect nothing you put in your body like LDN. We have lived country all our lives with well water. Yes we check it every 5 to 8 years. Nary a problem. We are 112 feet down into an underground River caused by a fault maybe a million years ago. We can go to a city and smell the Chlorine in the water and never drink water in a city. Fluoride is the poisonous by product of Producing Aluminum and Glass. Look it up in a chem engineering and Process hand book The Lab I worked in for 40 years had well water and filter beds that kept Ph at 7.0 and never allowed to go below 6.0, gave us deionized and distilled water for lab work and the drinking fountains were just pure well water.Big Al-- 3a.

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I tested my RO water with ph test strips (it tested 6.0) so it isn't what I think, it is what my test strips are showing. Additionally, I was advised by my naturopath to not drink RO water because of the acidity. I was also advised by my naturopath to use test strips to test my saliva and urine (which I do on a weekly basis) - since I have stopped using RO water, I have noticed a difference in my saliva and urine test strips - they test between 6.8 and 7.0 vs. 6.0 and 6.2 when I was drinking RO water. Hope that helps clarify things. I am not a doctor, nor am I a scientist, I am just a regular person who was diagnosed with a horrible autoimmune disease and am just trying to get well - I certainly don't proclaim to know everything ) I am just doing the best that I can.

Thanks.

[low dose naltrexone] Re: When LDN stops working (fluoride)low dose naltrexone Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:26 AM

If you want a low down on Fluoride watch this:

In this video, award-winning journalist Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste.

I have a friend who's child's teeth are crumbling from fluorosis, fluoride poisoning. Her doctor told her that her only option is to move to a county without fluoride in the water because fluoride does not filter out of the water with the majority of water filters. According to the CDC in 2005, 1 in 3 children in the US had some level of dental fluorosis. If it does that to teeth it's doing it to other bones.

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I know that rain water is acidic (5.something?) because CO2 dissolves into it to

form carbonic acid. I suppose the same would happen to RO water the longer it

sits around after the RO process. I don't know how long this would take- how

long does it take a raindrop to fall? but I suspect there is never really any

such thing as " pure " 7.0 water in nature.

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> what makes you think RO water is acidic?

> pure water is perfectly neutral pH.

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I drink spring water from County, MO purchased in

gallon jugs costing 88 cents a gallon. It tested out using pH

strips (made for water testing) at a pH of between 9 and 9.5.

Apparently this spring water has a good dose natural minerals

and no added fluoride. It tastes great.

I tested my RO water with ph test strips (it tested 6.0) so it isn't

what I think, it is what my test strips are showing. Additionally, I was

advised by my naturopath to not drink RO water because of the acidity. I

was also advised by my naturopath to use test strips to test my saliva

and urine (which I do on a weekly basis) - since I have stopped using RO

water, I have noticed a difference in my saliva and urine test strips -

they test between 6.8 and 7.0 vs. 6.0 and 6.2 when I was drinking RO

water. Hope that helps clarify things. I am not a doctor, nor am I a

scientist, I am just a regular person who was diagnosed with a horrible

autoimmune disease and am just trying to get well - I certainly don't

proclaim to know everything ) I am just doing the best that I can.

Thanks.

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what makes you think RO water is acidic?

pure water is perfectly neutral pH. impurities make it either + or -

7.0 pH. the more impurities removed the closer to 7.0 it gets.

i don't have a pH meter, or test strips, but will get one or the

other one day and my guess is my water which reads real close to 0>0

microseimans conductance indication 0.0 TDS total dissolved solids

and with the alumina cartridge should be so close to 7.0 as to be

essentially there. i don't know what the Concentrace mineral drops

that i add to it for drinking and cooking do to it... very curious

to find out.

when you talk about your body being alkiline and not acidic just

what part of your body are you talking about? do you really know

what you're talking about there? that's a rather complex matter.

your body tends to regulate pH of blood very closely not matter what

it takes and no matter what you ingest or soak in. the meanings of

urine and salifa pH are very limited. i'm no expert, but i find it

funny & pitiful how people buy into a lot of body pH sales hype

without understanding anything about the physiology of what's really

going on. i'm NOT saying that all those dietary things that

supposedly " make the body more alkaline " aren't a good thing with

benefits... but the hoopla about what's going on is rather farcical

from what i've learned.

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