Alpha Lipoic Acid

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Jane-

This is where I go too. And I can go online and request they hold a

book for me. Then I just run down at lunch and pick it up.

Judi

>

> Hi Jax,

>

> Recently I found this really great place. It's called

the " library " !

> Seriously, it was like I completely forgot about it, and it felt

> really good being there.

>

> Take care,

> Jane

>

> Re: Alpha Lipoic Acid

>

>

> There is a book called " The Antioxidant Miracle " by Lester

Packer,,

> I DO advise reading that one, its excellent and is in paperback so

its

> not very expensive,

> jax

>

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I take selenium also. Supposed to guard against cancer, among other

benefits. Are you using the sustained release ALA? The regular goes through

the system in less than 2 hours, and would have to take more every hour to

have optimal benefits. Its not worth the money, I think. I use Source

Naturals sustained release. I get it from iHerb.com.

Sal

Alpha Lipoic Acid

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>

> For those of you that take the ALA, how much are you guys taking?

My

> Holistic dr said I should be on 600mg a day. Seems like a lot!!

>

> She's alos suggested I start selenium, 200mg a day. Do you all

take

> these?

>

> Thanks,

> Judi

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>

>

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> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

have found

> the support you need with us.

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Sally-

Not sure, I get most of my vitamins from puritanspride.com and my

HD says this is a reputable place to buy them. They are cheap. And

between myself and my two dogs, we take a lot of vitamins, which can

get pricey.

Judi

> >

> > I'm taking 6 x 300mg per day of sustained release. I stagger the

> doses as

> > the sustained release is good for about 8 to 12 hours.

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > Alpha Lipoic Acid

> >

> >

> > For those of you that take the ALA, how much are you guys taking?

> My

> > Holistic dr said I should be on 600mg a day. Seems like a lot!!

> >

> > She's alos suggested I start selenium, 200mg a day. Do you all

> take

> > these?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Judi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

> have found

> > the support you need with us.

> >

> > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

> group, just

> > click the link--

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I forget about the library too cuz most of the books I have to buy for classes,, but I still highly recommend this particular book,,

jaxjudi <judirachel@...> wrote:

Jane-This is where I go too. And I can go online and request they hold a book for me. Then I just run down at lunch and pick it up.Judi>> Hi Jax,> > Recently I found this really great place. It's called the "library"!> Seriously, it was like I completely forgot about it, and it felt> really good being there. > > Take care,> Jane> > Re: Alpha Lipoic Acid> > > There is a book called "The

Antioxidant Miracle" by Lester Packer,,> I DO advise reading that one, its excellent and is in paperback so its> not very expensive,> jax>Jackie

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You are very welcome Judi.. Ill be an ND soon,, I hope, lol,, still got about a year,, just hope I can remember what Im learning, I have such a bad memory, didnt use to tho,, Interferon killed several million brain cells, loljudi <judirachel@...> wrote:

Thanks Jax-Yes, this is what my Holistic DR recommends.Judi> For those of you that take the ALA, how much are you guys taking? My

> Holistic dr said I should be on 600mg a day. Seems like a lot!!> > She's alos suggested I start selenium, 200mg a day. Do you all take > these?> > Thanks,> Judi> > > > > > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- Hepatitis C/> > Happy Posting > > > >

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>

> I finished cruising the archives on this. You say ALA (not to be

confused with Alpha Linoleic Acid, by the way)is naturally found in the

foods of your diet. How about for people who also need to detox heavy

metals. Is this one better, safer than the DMSA, EDTA?

> I understand ALA is a combo of synthetic and natural r-lipoic acid.

==>Sorry, would you please provide the reference in which I wrote the

information about ALA?

Bee

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>

> I finished cruising the archives on this.

>

> You say ALA (not to be confused with Alpha Linoleic Acid, by the

> way)is naturally found in the foods of your diet.

==>Alpha Lipoic Acid is a vitamin-like antioxidant manufacturered in

the body and it is also found in red meats and particularly in organ

meats like heart and liver as well as many green vegetables.

==>Alpha-Linolenic Acid is also referred to as ALA or Omega-3 is an

essential fatty acid found in cod liver oil and fish oil.

>

> How about for people who also need to detox heavy metals. Is this

one better, safer than the DMSA, EDTA? I understand ALA is a combo of

synthetic and natural r-lipoic acid.

==>ALA (Omega 3) found in cod liver oil and fish oil is not synthetic.

>

> Do you believe this is toxic to the body? I started taking it to

> prevent glycation in my system (cross-linking of proteins with sugar

> molecules). Took it whenever I would eat the sugary foods I craved.

==>It isn't toxic if it is derived from cod liver oil or fish oil. I

wouldn't recommend any other type of supplement to obtain omega 3.

>

> So. Is ALA okay to add to chelate heavy metals? And, if God forbid,

we might slip, is it okay to use ALA to counteract the 124 Ways Sugar

Can Ruin Your Health?

==>No, do not use to counteract slips or cheats with sugar. Instead

in order to alleviate your symptoms do the following:

• Drink clove or ginger tea – 4 to 5 cups within 5-6 hours.

• Take an epsom salt bath.

• Take these all at once, except for 2,000 mgs of vitamin C, which is

taken every hour (in addition to normal daily supplements):

a. 2 capsules of hydrochloric acid (preferably Betaine HCl with

pepsin).

b. 4,000 mgs vitamin C is taken immediately, and take 2,000 mgs

every hour until symptoms subside, or until you reach bowel tolerance

(loose stools) and then cut back on the amount taken.

c. Vitamin B complex 100 mgs, in addition your daily amount.

d. 500 mgs of niacin (if you can stand the flush; if you cannot

stand the flush take at least 50 mgs every hour)

e. 10,000 IUs vitamin A.

f. 400 IUs vitamin D.

Note: Vitamins A and D are available in cod liver or halibut liver

oil capsules.

Bee

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Hi to all,

Two days ago i took 1 capsule of alpha lipoic acid at

600 mg. Then i took all my usual vitamins and

minerals and also my glucovance (combo of metformin

and glyburide). Also took my usual medley of tea of

moringa oleifera), turmeric, cinnamon, ginger (brings

down bp and bglucose and cholesterol).

Lo and behold, all day i was having chest pains. All

the while i thought it was because i could not breathe

due to my allergies. My bp was also elevated due to

this.

When we were in bed, i really felt weird like as if if

was going to have a heart attack. I told my husband

if i get cardiac arrest, don't panic. Just call 911.

I could see from his face he was afraid.

I checked my sugar it was 80. I asked for a can of

pineapple juice, i felt a bit better, but then again

felt bad, checked sugar again it was 78...going

down...Then my hubby remembered, i bought carbohydrate

tablets from CVS that was flavored. This huge pill

like carbs jacks up blood sugar. I chewed on one and

then drank water. Felt much better. Meanwhile i did

not realize that all this is because i should not

combine alpha lipoic acid with diabetic medicines.

Today when i woke up, my blood sugar was 150! So all

i took was lipoic acid no diabetic pills. Also took

my usual medley of tea in the morning. After three

hours My blood sugar is just perfect for me, 120. It

looks like i might not need my diabetic pills anymore.

I have read (can't remember where, old age) alpha

lipoic acid aids in diabetic neuropathy, and blood

sugar control for diabetics, and MIGHT even reverse

diabetes. Look at that....will try this for a few

more days and will let you know if it really works.

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I am a 64 year old male diabetic taking no diabetic meds. I find the

combo of Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl L-Carnitine, and Benfotiamine to be

good for me, along with my other supplements. Not sure which herbs

or supplements work best, but I have far more feeling in my hands and

feet than I did 5 years ago. My BP ranges between 96 and 103 over

60 to 65.

Alobar

On 5/10/08, melly banagale <@...> wrote:

> Hi to all,

>

> Two days ago i took 1 capsule of alpha lipoic acid at

> 600 mg. Then i took all my usual vitamins and

> minerals and also my glucovance (combo of metformin

> and glyburide). Also took my usual medley of tea of

> moringa oleifera), turmeric, cinnamon, ginger (brings

> down bp and bglucose and cholesterol).

>

> Lo and behold, all day i was having chest pains. All

> the while i thought it was because i could not breathe

> due to my allergies. My bp was also elevated due to

> this.

>

> When we were in bed, i really felt weird like as if if

> was going to have a heart attack. I told my husband

> if i get cardiac arrest, don't panic. Just call 911.

> I could see from his face he was afraid.

> I checked my sugar it was 80. I asked for a can of

> pineapple juice, i felt a bit better, but then again

> felt bad, checked sugar again it was 78...going

> down...Then my hubby remembered, i bought carbohydrate

> tablets from CVS that was flavored. This huge pill

> like carbs jacks up blood sugar. I chewed on one and

> then drank water. Felt much better. Meanwhile i did

> not realize that all this is because i should not

> combine alpha lipoic acid with diabetic medicines.

>

> Today when i woke up, my blood sugar was 150! So all

> i took was lipoic acid no diabetic pills. Also took

> my usual medley of tea in the morning. After three

> hours My blood sugar is just perfect for me, 120. It

> looks like i might not need my diabetic pills anymore.

>

> I have read (can't remember where, old age) alpha

> lipoic acid aids in diabetic neuropathy, and blood

> sugar control for diabetics, and MIGHT even reverse

> diabetes. Look at that....will try this for a few

> more days and will let you know if it really works.

>

>

>

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We buy the Standard Process line of Vitamins..

Their webstite explains a lot about what the vitamins are for..

http://www.standardprocess.com/

>

> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid

> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects?

> Thanks, Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

We buy the Standard Process line of Vitamins..

Their webstite explains a lot about what the vitamins are for..

http://www.standardprocess.com/

>

> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid

> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects?

> Thanks, Laurie

>

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Laurie--I used it religiously and under a medical doctor's care for eliminating the side effects of extremely painful diabetic neuropathy, until I simply could not afford it any more. For more details, please contact me off the forum. ~~Ruth/REU

Alpha Lipoic Acid

How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acidto support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? Thanks, Laurie

[Guest guest]

Laurie--I used it religiously and under a medical doctor's care for eliminating the side effects of extremely painful diabetic neuropathy, until I simply could not afford it any more. For more details, please contact me off the forum. ~~Ruth/REU

Alpha Lipoic Acid

How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acidto support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? Thanks, Laurie

[Guest guest]

This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellent

combination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Quality

of it definitely matters.

Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats many

age-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes and

cataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical to

the mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foods

contain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as an

antioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkably

wide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helps

protect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, of

cell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondria

function is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E and

some other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them much

more effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increase

performance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improve

strength and muscularity.

In Health,

Liz

>

> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid

> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects?

> Thanks, Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellent

combination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Quality

of it definitely matters.

Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats many

age-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes and

cataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical to

the mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foods

contain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as an

antioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkably

wide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helps

protect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, of

cell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondria

function is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E and

some other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them much

more effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increase

performance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improve

strength and muscularity.

In Health,

Liz

>

> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid

> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects?

> Thanks, Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

ALA for mercury removal and other metal chelation should be taken in a certain protocol. 3 days on/4 days off and frequent dosing so that the metals do not redeposit themselves.Full details and Andy Cutler's protocol hereautism treatment/ I love that group and have learned so much. My daughter is not autistic, but has very high levels of some metals, and a lot of physical issues. I'm almost ready to start chelation with her.Liora Pearlman Moderator, Beijing Organic Consumers' Association (BOCA) beijing_organic_consumersNO CODEX! Look up on YouTube & Educate yourself! NO NAU (North American Union)NO Trilateral Commission!

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ALA for mercury removal and other metal chelation should be taken in a certain protocol. 3 days on/4 days off and frequent dosing so that the metals do not redeposit themselves.Full details and Andy Cutler's protocol hereautism treatment/ I love that group and have learned so much. My daughter is not autistic, but has very high levels of some metals, and a lot of physical issues. I'm almost ready to start chelation with her.Liora Pearlman Moderator, Beijing Organic Consumers' Association (BOCA) beijing_organic_consumersNO CODEX! Look up on YouTube & Educate yourself! NO NAU (North American Union)NO Trilateral Commission!

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More info about Hall Cutler Ph.D's ALA and DMSA protocolshttp://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=3,76 & q=102He also has a book for those who want to know all the "whys" or have multiple metals. The group I posted earlier he will give personalized advice for your situation.The first thing is to get a Doctor's Data Hair analysis test ("Hair Elements" test, not the "Toxic Elements" test) We did this through Dr. Janet Starr Hull and also got an excellent analysis of the results (though her metal removal via French Green Clay is not the metal removal protocol I chose in the long run). All of her nutritional advice was RIGHT ON and in and of themselves have already helped our daughter immensely. www.hairanalysisprogram.com and www.janethull.com Liora Pearlman Moderator, Beijing Organic Consumers' Association (BOCA) beijing_organic_consumersNO CODEX! Look up on YouTube & Educate yourself! NO NAU (North American Union)NO Trilateral Commission!

[Guest guest]

More info about Hall Cutler Ph.D's ALA and DMSA protocolshttp://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=3,76 & q=102He also has a book for those who want to know all the "whys" or have multiple metals. The group I posted earlier he will give personalized advice for your situation.The first thing is to get a Doctor's Data Hair analysis test ("Hair Elements" test, not the "Toxic Elements" test) We did this through Dr. Janet Starr Hull and also got an excellent analysis of the results (though her metal removal via French Green Clay is not the metal removal protocol I chose in the long run). All of her nutritional advice was RIGHT ON and in and of themselves have already helped our daughter immensely. www.hairanalysisprogram.com and www.janethull.com Liora Pearlman Moderator, Beijing Organic Consumers' Association (BOCA) beijing_organic_consumersNO CODEX! Look up on YouTube & Educate yourself! NO NAU (North American Union)NO Trilateral Commission!

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Liz; thanks for your info;    i am not using ALA for detox support, though I have been taking it for a fewyears, and find it does add to my general health and resistance to dis-ease    I am 69 years old and find that for me, a daily regime of  these has been beneficial:Alpha Lipoic AcidESTER C capsCo Q10 caps  - there is a whole book written about its uses in heart related          problems, lung support,  anywhere anti-oxidant is needed.Policosanol - cholesterol aidCalcium with magnesium  capsCarlson  Norwegian Salmon OIl  soft gelsPB 8 Probiotics (does not need refridgeration,  + is enteric coated)B Complex 100   capsAged Garlic   capsNordic Naturals - Omegas 3,6,9Artichoke extract - a wonderful way to aid in cholesterol issuesVitamin E 400 gelcapsVitamin D3  gelcapsL Carnitine fumarate 500   - an amino acid found in heart and        liver tissue, it aids in metabolizing fatty acids and carbs into        energy. Works well with Co Q10 as antioxidant.Pomagranite juice (w/no sugar) or Cayenne, or Zyflamend (anti       inflammatory) or glucosamine & chondroitin. These are great       in relieving inflammatory processes of arthritis.Gingko Biloba (Gingkold brand)  I find it helps with senior moments.I Always Keep on hand:* L  Lysine    I use no more than two or three days at a time. Also as a                   supplement for my cat when he has outbreak of feline herpes.* Pro Biotics by Ecclectic Institute - An amazing  balance of  supplements that                 works so well i wish everyone could experience what our immune                 systems are capable of when supported by certain ratios of                 supplements. A friend with pneumonia took tw,o three times a day,                 and next day her fever of 102 was down to normal, her lungs had                  started to clear,                 I've used the same thing when i had a bad infection in a cat scratch,                 and another time for a sore throat.                 I use this as a preventative, pre dental-work, instead of anti - bio - tics.                 This is one supplement I would never be without.leta in So-Cal            On Jul 27, 2551 BE, at 2:01 PM, Brandegee wrote:This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellentcombination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Qualityof it definitely matters.Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats manyage-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes andcataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical tothe mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foodscontain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as anantioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkablywide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helpsprotect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, ofcell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondriafunction is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E andsome other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them muchmore effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increaseperformance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improvestrength and muscularity.In Health,Liz>> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? > Thanks, Laurie>

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Liz; thanks for your info;    i am not using ALA for detox support, though I have been taking it for a fewyears, and find it does add to my general health and resistance to dis-ease    I am 69 years old and find that for me, a daily regime of  these has been beneficial:Alpha Lipoic AcidESTER C capsCo Q10 caps  - there is a whole book written about its uses in heart related          problems, lung support,  anywhere anti-oxidant is needed.Policosanol - cholesterol aidCalcium with magnesium  capsCarlson  Norwegian Salmon OIl  soft gelsPB 8 Probiotics (does not need refridgeration,  + is enteric coated)B Complex 100   capsAged Garlic   capsNordic Naturals - Omegas 3,6,9Artichoke extract - a wonderful way to aid in cholesterol issuesVitamin E 400 gelcapsVitamin D3  gelcapsL Carnitine fumarate 500   - an amino acid found in heart and        liver tissue, it aids in metabolizing fatty acids and carbs into        energy. Works well with Co Q10 as antioxidant.Pomagranite juice (w/no sugar) or Cayenne, or Zyflamend (anti       inflammatory) or glucosamine & chondroitin. These are great       in relieving inflammatory processes of arthritis.Gingko Biloba (Gingkold brand)  I find it helps with senior moments.I Always Keep on hand:* L  Lysine    I use no more than two or three days at a time. Also as a                   supplement for my cat when he has outbreak of feline herpes.* Pro Biotics by Ecclectic Institute - An amazing  balance of  supplements that                 works so well i wish everyone could experience what our immune                 systems are capable of when supported by certain ratios of                 supplements. A friend with pneumonia took tw,o three times a day,                 and next day her fever of 102 was down to normal, her lungs had                  started to clear,                 I've used the same thing when i had a bad infection in a cat scratch,                 and another time for a sore throat.                 I use this as a preventative, pre dental-work, instead of anti - bio - tics.                 This is one supplement I would never be without.leta in So-Cal            On Jul 27, 2551 BE, at 2:01 PM, Brandegee wrote:This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellentcombination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Qualityof it definitely matters.Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats manyage-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes andcataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical tothe mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foodscontain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as anantioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkablywide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helpsprotect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, ofcell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondriafunction is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E andsome other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them muchmore effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increaseperformance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improvestrength and muscularity.In Health,Liz>> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? > Thanks, Laurie>

[Guest guest]

Liz; thanks for your info;    i am not using ALA for detox support, though I have been taking it for a fewyears, and find it does add to my general health and resistance to dis-ease    I am 69 years old and find that for me, a daily regime of  these has been beneficial:Alpha Lipoic AcidESTER C capsCo Q10 caps  - there is a whole book written about its uses in heart related          problems, lung support,  anywhere anti-oxidant is needed.Policosanol - cholesterol aidCalcium with magnesium  capsCarlson  Norwegian Salmon OIl  soft gelsPB 8 Probiotics (does not need refridgeration,  + is enteric coated)B Complex 100   capsAged Garlic   capsNordic Naturals - Omegas 3,6,9Artichoke extract - a wonderful way to aid in cholesterol issuesVitamin E 400 gelcapsVitamin D3  gelcapsL Carnitine fumarate 500   - an amino acid found in heart and        liver tissue, it aids in metabolizing fatty acids and carbs into        energy. Works well with Co Q10 as antioxidant.Pomagranite juice (w/no sugar) or Cayenne, or Zyflamend (anti       inflammatory) or glucosamine & chondroitin. These are great       in relieving inflammatory processes of arthritis.Gingko Biloba (Gingkold brand)  I find it helps with senior moments.I Always Keep on hand:* L  Lysine    I use no more than two or three days at a time. Also as a                   supplement for my cat when he has outbreak of feline herpes.* Pro Biotics by Ecclectic Institute - An amazing  balance of  supplements that                 works so well i wish everyone could experience what our immune                 systems are capable of when supported by certain ratios of                 supplements. A friend with pneumonia took tw,o three times a day,                 and next day her fever of 102 was down to normal, her lungs had                  started to clear,                 I've used the same thing when i had a bad infection in a cat scratch,                 and another time for a sore throat.                 I use this as a preventative, pre dental-work, instead of anti - bio - tics.                 This is one supplement I would never be without.leta in So-Cal            On Jul 27, 2551 BE, at 2:01 PM, Brandegee wrote:This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellentcombination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Qualityof it definitely matters.Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats manyage-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes andcataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical tothe mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foodscontain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as anantioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkablywide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helpsprotect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, ofcell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondriafunction is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E andsome other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them muchmore effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increaseperformance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improvestrength and muscularity.In Health,Liz>> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? > Thanks, Laurie>

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Liz; thanks for your info;    i am not using ALA for detox support, though I have been taking it for a fewyears, and find it does add to my general health and resistance to dis-ease    I am 69 years old and find that for me, a daily regime of  these has been beneficial:Alpha Lipoic AcidESTER C capsCo Q10 caps  - there is a whole book written about its uses in heart related          problems, lung support,  anywhere anti-oxidant is needed.Policosanol - cholesterol aidCalcium with magnesium  capsCarlson  Norwegian Salmon OIl  soft gelsPB 8 Probiotics (does not need refridgeration,  + is enteric coated)B Complex 100   capsAged Garlic   capsNordic Naturals - Omegas 3,6,9Artichoke extract - a wonderful way to aid in cholesterol issuesVitamin E 400 gelcapsVitamin D3  gelcapsL Carnitine fumarate 500   - an amino acid found in heart and        liver tissue, it aids in metabolizing fatty acids and carbs into        energy. Works well with Co Q10 as antioxidant.Pomagranite juice (w/no sugar) or Cayenne, or Zyflamend (anti       inflammatory) or glucosamine & chondroitin. These are great       in relieving inflammatory processes of arthritis.Gingko Biloba (Gingkold brand)  I find it helps with senior moments.I Always Keep on hand:* L  Lysine    I use no more than two or three days at a time. Also as a                   supplement for my cat when he has outbreak of feline herpes.* Pro Biotics by Ecclectic Institute - An amazing  balance of  supplements that                 works so well i wish everyone could experience what our immune                 systems are capable of when supported by certain ratios of                 supplements. A friend with pneumonia took tw,o three times a day,                 and next day her fever of 102 was down to normal, her lungs had                  started to clear,                 I've used the same thing when i had a bad infection in a cat scratch,                 and another time for a sore throat.                 I use this as a preventative, pre dental-work, instead of anti - bio - tics.                 This is one supplement I would never be without.leta in So-Cal            On Jul 27, 2551 BE, at 2:01 PM, Brandegee wrote:This is an important substance, yes. I use it in a an excellentcombination product with other antioxidant-type substances. Qualityof it definitely matters.Claims/benefits: Powerful antioxidant. Prevents or treats manyage-related diseases, from heart disease and stroke to diabetes andcataracts. The body needs ALA to produce energy. It is critical tothe mitochondria, the energy-producing structures in cells. Foodscontain only tiny amounts of it. What makes ALA special as anantioxidant is that is so versatile - it helps deactivate a remarkablywide array of cell-damaging free radicals in the body. ALA helpsprotect the mitochondria and the genetic material, DNA, ofcell-damaging free radicals in the body. As we age, mitochondriafunction is impaired. ALA also works closely with Vitamin C and E andsome other antioxidants, 'recycling' them and thus making them muchmore effective. Taking ALA before and during a work out can increaseperformance, help take nutrients to your muscles faster and improvestrength and muscularity.In Health,Liz>> How many out there are using Alpha Lipoic Acid> to support their detox? What is the purpose? Any side effects? > Thanks, Laurie>

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I have not experienced this problem, but I suspect that the problem is oxidation

of your anti-oxidant. If you were to put your cream into an airless pump

dispenser I think the problem would disappear. Also, it will keep your product

fresher longer.

HTH

Christie S.

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For me, carnitine was thyroid-suppressive. I felt awful when I took it.

See http://www.mythyroid.com/vitamins.html

Look about 2/3 down the page.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Kabrna

Has anyone considered taking supplement alongisde spiro to help

maintain a safe blood pressure. Research at Boston University, funded

by the National Institutes of Health findings may be of interest.

Quote: " The results showed that treatment with alpha lipoic acid and

acetyl-L-carnitine improved brachial artery diameter by 2.3%. It also

reduced systolic blood pressure by an average of 9 points in people who

started out with the highest blood pressure, and by 9 points in people

with metabolic syndrome. This large reduction in blood pressure could

have a major effect on people's cardiovascular risk, say researchers.

Best of all: no side effects " . (McMackin, CJ, et al. J Clin Hypertens

2007;9:249-255.)