Re: LDN and low dose prednisone

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:07:36 -0400, joan.spargo <joan.spargo@...>

wrote:

> I have Crohn's and I started LDN 3 months ago. I was on 10mg of

> prednisone and my Crohn's was flaring. The LDN stopped the flare and I

> have reduced the pred to 7mg. However, I am now getting tummy pains late

> afternoon/evening. I plan to start D-phenyalanine to try to extend the

> endorphin release.

>

> My questions:

> At 7mg will the prednisone be having any positive effect?

> Will the LDN be negating the pred's immunosupressant effects?

> Worse still, will the pred be reducing the effectiveness of the LDN?

Your questions could be answered " yes " -- depending on the person.

For me, 7 mg of prednisone was about the maximum I could tolerate, so it

was not a low dose in terms of its effects.

Therefore, it also would have effected my LDN -- though I didn't take

prednisone and LDN at the same time.

I don't know about prednisone reducing the effectiveness of LDN, but I

suspect it would.

For me, LDN is plenty effective on its own. (I've had Crohn's for 30+

years.)

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> Does anyone have the science or have experience of the combined effect

> of LDN and low dose prednisone?

>

> I have been on steroids for 13 years. This is the lowest dose I have

> been on for over a decade. I'm wondering whether I should try to come

> off completely or perhaps switch to hydrocortisone for adrenal support.

>

> I would appreciate any input.

> Thanks....Joan

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Zahavi. I value your wisdom and have learnt alot from you through these

groups. Thank you.

So you don't think there is any conflict between prednisone at 7mg and LDN? I

have always thought I should do all I can to get off it. Has your wife tried to

lower her prednisone? Maybe I just need to accept that this is as good as it

will get.

Thanks again for all your help....Joan

>

> Dr mccandless is against taking more then 10 mg prednisone.my wife takes

> years 7.5 mg prednisone with the ldn plus good diet plus 3x500

> D-phenylalanine and try to avoid stress and it Works good for AS.

>

[Guest guest]

The use of 7 mg predinsone with ldn is no problem as advised

by dr mccandless.

My wife uses perdnisone already 20 years .first 5 mg because

she did not tolerate nsaids and later 7.5 mg because adrenal fatigue.

If you used prednisone for a long time you might have

to continue to takei t as your adrenal are exhausted, a doctor that Works with

bio-identical hormones can check it.hydro-cortisone is beter.for every mg

prednisone you need 4 mg HC and spread over the day.my wife does not tolerate

it.

To compensate for the damage of prednisone a woman

should use DHEA,at least 15 mg if you can tolerate even more.

You should check also thyroid as he suffers after a long time

adrenal fatigue.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that reassurance Zahavi.Yes, I am on thyroid extract and DHEA; also

biest, progesterone and melatonin. Now that I have reduced the prednisone I

should get the levels of these checked again.

I have been on hydrocortisone in the past. The only reason I switched to

prednisone was that the HC didn't have strong enough anti-inflammatory effect.

Maybe the LDN will allow me to switch back to HC but in the meantime I'll stay

on 7mg pred until the Crohn's fully settles down again.

Thanks again for your advice. I really appreciate it.

Joan

>

> The use of 7 mg predinsone with ldn is no problem as advised by dr

> mccandless.

>

> My wife uses perdnisone already 20 years .first 5 mg because she did not

> tolerate nsaids and later 7.5 mg because adrenal fatigue.

>

> If you used prednisone for a long time you might have to continue to takei

> t as your adrenal are exhausted, a doctor that Works with bio-identical

> hormones can check it.hydro-cortisone is beter.for every mg prednisone you

> need 4 mg HC and spread over the day.my wife does not tolerate it.

>

> To compensate for the damage of prednisone a woman should use DHEA,at least

> 15 mg if you can tolerate even more.

>

> You should check also thyroid as he suffers after a long time adrenal

> fatigue.

>