Re: high blood sugar

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Hi have experienced this Eve. I have to monitor my glucose levels and alter my

diet. This is a new development for me since I have had lyme and I have talked

to several other people with lyme disease that have the same issue.

christine

[ ] high blood sugar

Has anyone experienced a raise in their blood sugar levels since

getting lyme. I have never had my sugar become high? I appreciate

anyones input...thanks...eve

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,

If you don't mind me asking, how high has yours been, mine is 141, when I am

fasting. Of course that is a test done by quest labs, I don't exactly know how

accurate they are, I have heard some bad things...eve

[Guest guest]

High blood sugar levels is very commong for just about anyone these

days. With our modern diets of processed grains and sugary foods. Diet

is most likely the cause but needs to be addressed no matter what caused

it. Eating a low glycemic diet will help alot.

eve wrote:

> Has anyone experienced a raise in their blood sugar levels since

> getting lyme. I have never had my sugar become high? I appreciate

> anyones input...thanks...eve

>

>

>

>

>

> Que

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[Guest guest]

Hi Eve,

I use a blood glucose monitor to check on my blood sugar levels so it wouldn't

be comparable to your test. My measurements are in mmol/L and I test before I

eat and then after. If you are having a lot of problems with your blood sugar

you may want to look into doing this. There are a great deal of diet changes

you can make as well that could make a huge difference to your blood sugar

levels. I hope this is helpful to you.

best wishes,

Re: [ ] high blood sugar

,

If you don't mind me asking, how high has yours been, mine is 141, when I am

fasting. Of course that is a test done by quest labs, I don't exactly know how

accurate they are, I have heard some bad things...eve

[Guest guest]

yes

eric

--- eve <eveandal@...> wrote:

> Has anyone experienced a raise in their blood sugar

> levels since

> getting lyme. I have never had my sugar become high?

> I appreciate

> anyones input...thanks...eve

>

>

>

>

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<<<If you don't mind me asking, how high has yours been, mine is 141, when I am

fasting.>>>>

A fasting glucose level should not be that high.

I believe it should be below 100.......seems like you might have some sugar

issues.

Conniek

[Guest guest]

I would beware of diabetic meds. The " side effects " can include

kidney failure, heart attack, and liver failure. Many of the

so-called " diabetic complications are really complications arising

from diabetic meds.

I would suggest looking into books on Leptin, looking in to herbs for

blood sugar control, and doing what you can to remove all non-fiber

carbs, all unhealthy oils, all processed meats (hot dogs, balony,

bacon, etc.) and all pre-packaged or canned foods.

My blood sugar is higher when I cannot get grass fed beef, because

omega 3 is better than omega 6 and grain fed animals are very high in

omega 6.

Alobar

On 10/13/08, xenaattorney <xenaattorney@...> wrote:

> I am taking coconut oil every morning, about 3 tablespoons, eating

> low carb (under 40 net carbs per day since 8/14/08) and my fasting

> blood sugar is still too high according to my doc (it was 156 this

> a.m.)

>

> When I see her this week I have a feeling she may want me to go on

> meds.

>

> I am wondering what I should do.

>

> Also, although I have been struggling with my weight and weigh 237

> which is about 45-50 lbs over what I should weigh at 6'1 " tall (and

> I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion and PCOS), I exercise

> regularly, have low blood pressure and good cholesterol and am

> otherwise healthy.

>

> I guess I should go lower carb and maybe up the coconut oil and see

> if that helps the blood sugar. Does anyone have any thoughts on

> this? I would like to stay off prescription meds if at all

> possible.

>

> I am trying to educate myself about diabetes. Heard that Vanadium

> is good to take. Just would love to hear others' experience.

>

> Xena

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you don't feel like I am coming down on you

like a ton of bricks but since I have two out of the

three things you have I am going to speak up !

I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion,

fibromyalgia and silent celiac disease. You weigh

too much, which you already know, but it is

contributing to your cascading health problems.

In this country we have been inundated with

commercials for " fiber " and " good carbs " so

unless you share what your diet is specifically

I don't know for sure whether you are sabotaging

yourself by thinking you are eating healthy when

it may not be good for you. These are the lessons

I have learned... the combination of sugar and

starches are my enemy weight wise. My alternative

Doctor has been helping me with my health issues

but we made a giant leap forward when he suggested

that I deep-six wheat, rye, barley, oats,etc. Take

a look at this site to get a more in depth idea of

which grains are OK. Corn is OK on this list but a

no-go for me because it is a starch/sugar combination.

Rice is on the OK list but unless it is wild it makes

me gain weight.

www.csaceliacs.org/gluten_grains.php

Grains on the celiac " avoid " list I also must avoid

to keep my fibromyalgia pain level down and avoiding

corn and regular rice, even brown rice, keeps my weight

down. What kind of exercise do you do ? If you still

have adrenal exhaustion doing anything more than walking

20 minutes a day will make you worse in the long run...

it's stressful to your adrenals. There are three steps

to Type 2 Diabetes...Glucose Disregulation/hypoglycemia

then Insulin Resistance and then Type 2 Diabetes. You are

a pre-Type 2 Diabetic if you have PCOS... it's part of the syndrome. It

is excellent that you are taking the coconut oil...

but space it out throughout the day. Cook your eggs and

meat in it, add it to your teas, and use it on your skin.

I would suggest that like me you need to avoid all fruit

until your weight comes off. Then just have it as a treat

on special occasions like Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.

and never eat it on an empty stomach, always have it

with a fat like coconut oil, heavy cream with no

thickeners (like carageenan, guar gum, xatham gum,

etc.), butter, etc. No potatoes until the weight comes

off and then only the red new potatoes on special occasions.

I basically just eat non starchy vegetables, meat, fish and

fats and 50 of the excess 75 pounds I have had have melted

off me so far and it still is coming off. I had to do a lot of soul

searching and mourning as I cannot have the foods that others eat so

freely and seemingly without consequences. I have vastly improved the

quality of the food I eat... grass fed beef, free range poultry, wild

fish, cultured butter, cod liver oil, free range eggs, local and

in-season produce as much as possible, learning to cook with all

different spices, etc. Because I am eating such good quality fat I am

satiated so I merely have to fight the psychological lust for things

that will make me gain weight or make my pain levels go up... pretty

good motivation to stay on the straight and narrow ! I hope some of the

things I have shared help you. Do everything you can to not go on the

medications... they will just add to your woes.

>

> I am taking coconut oil every morning, about 3 tablespoons, eating

> low carb (under 40 net carbs per day since 8/14/08) and my fasting

> blood sugar is still too high according to my doc (it was 156 this

> a.m.)

>

> When I see her this week I have a feeling she may want me to go on

> meds.

>

> I am wondering what I should do.

>

> Also, although I have been struggling with my weight and weigh 237

> which is about 45-50 lbs over what I should weigh at 6'1 " tall (and

> I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion and PCOS), I exercise

> regularly, have low blood pressure and good cholesterol and am

> otherwise healthy.

>

> I guess I should go lower carb and maybe up the coconut oil and see

> if that helps the blood sugar. Does anyone have any thoughts on

> this? I would like to stay off prescription meds if at all

> possible.

>

> I am trying to educate myself about diabetes. Heard that Vanadium

> is good to take. Just would love to hear others' experience.

>

> Xena

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree... don't go low calorie... that will

stress your adrenals even more. Try halving your

carbs instead. You are doing so very well with

the quality of your food ! Good for you !!! Where

do your 40 net carbs come from ? Fit day is

great isn't it ? Yes, sounds like wheat is not

your friend either ! They say celiac sufferers

have a high percentage with genes from Ireland,

Italy, Finland, Austria, and Sweden.

> >

> > I am taking coconut oil every morning, about 3 tablespoons, eating

> > low carb (under 40 net carbs per day since 8/14/08) and my fasting

> > blood sugar is still too high according to my doc (it was 156 this

> > a.m.)

> >

> > When I see her this week I have a feeling she may want me to go on

> > meds.

> >

> > I am wondering what I should do.

> >

> > Also, although I have been struggling with my weight and weigh 237

> > which is about 45-50 lbs over what I should weigh at 6'1 " tall (and

> > I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion and PCOS), I exercise

> > regularly, have low blood pressure and good cholesterol and am

> > otherwise healthy.

> >

> > I guess I should go lower carb and maybe up the coconut oil and see

> > if that helps the blood sugar. Does anyone have any thoughts on

> > this? I would like to stay off prescription meds if at all

> > possible.

> >

> > I am trying to educate myself about diabetes. Heard that Vanadium

> > is good to take. Just would love to hear others' experience.

> >

> > Xena

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Metanoiagal,

Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's possible

this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well as other

important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research Labs headed

by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check out this

site: http://www.phpure.com/q_nutrition_products.htm

I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found that adding

the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several things from

Premier Research Labs.

Blessings,

[Guest guest]

I'm half Irish with 1/4 Welsh and 1/4 Mescalero Apache.

 

Will talk to my doc about all this on Tuesday. 

From: barbiec1953 <bcentofante@...>

Subject: Re: High blood sugar

Coconut Oil

Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:37 PM

Yes, I agree... don't go low calorie... that will

stress your adrenals even more. Try halving your

carbs instead. You are doing so very well with

the quality of your food ! Good for you !!! Where

do your 40 net carbs come from ? Fit day is

great isn't it ? Yes, sounds like wheat is not

your friend either ! They say celiac sufferers

have a high percentage with genes from Ireland,

Italy, Finland, Austria, and Sweden.

> >

> > I am taking coconut oil every morning, about 3 tablespoons, eating

> > low carb (under 40 net carbs per day since 8/14/08) and my fasting

> > blood sugar is still too high according to my doc (it was 156 this

> > a.m.)

> >

> > When I see her this week I have a feeling she may want me to go on

> > meds.

> >

> > I am wondering what I should do.

> >

> > Also, although I have been struggling with my weight and weigh 237

> > which is about 45-50 lbs over what I should weigh at 6'1 " tall (and

> > I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion and PCOS), I exercise

> > regularly, have low blood pressure and good cholesterol and am

> > otherwise healthy.

> >

> > I guess I should go lower carb and maybe up the coconut oil and see

> > if that helps the blood sugar. Does anyone have any thoughts on

> > this? I would like to stay off prescription meds if at all

> > possible.

> >

> > I am trying to educate myself about diabetes. Heard that Vanadium

> > is good to take. Just would love to hear others' experience.

> >

> > Xena

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

FYI-My doctor has me on something called Adrenal C and also something called

Adrenal Rebuilder made by Future Formulations.  They have both helped a lot--my

levels are getting better with each test we do, are non-prescription supplements

(no she doesn't sell anything) and you can find them on the internet.

 

Marie

>

>

>

> Metanoiagal,

>

> Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's possible

> this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well as other

> important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research Labs headed

> by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check out this

> site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

>

> I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found that adding

> the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several things from

> Premier Research Labs.

>

> Blessings,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will check into it.  I have 2 friends with it and one went undiagnosed

for years and it ruined his joints.  He has had 5 hip replacements!

> Thanks, I was a vegetarian for about 12 years as a kid and was terribly low

iron and anemic. I took supplements but was tested last year and my iron levels

are now normal. No overload according to the tests.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness... our symptoms are so similar.

How many times had I thought to myself that I

felt like I was 90 ( I am 55 ! ) I also take

Priority One Enzy-Gest which is digestive enzymes

plus Betaine HCL. Lots of people our age experience

lower levels of hydrochloric acid in our stomachs

which lessens our ability to absorb our nutrients.

Maybe getting alkaline may not be the best thing

for you right now. Your body temperature being

that low is not good for so many reasons but now

I understand more of why your weight won't come

off... your body is in emergency mode and is

trying to protect itself from further damage. You

must stop exercising so hard and give yourself

and your body a break. You are pressing the

accelerator and trying to make your vehicle

( your body ) go 55 mph when it can only go

30 mph. You are headed for adrenal depletion

and a severe health crisis. Be more gentle with

yourself until you get better ! This is very serious !

> > > >

> > > > I hope you don't feel like I am coming down on you

> > > > like a ton of bricks but since I have two out of the

> > > > three things you have I am going to speak up !

> > > > I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion,

> > > > fibromyalgia and silent celiac disease. You weigh

> > > > too much, which you already know, but it is

> > > > contributing to your cascading health problems.

> > > > In this country we have been inundated with

> > > > commercials for " fiber " and " good carbs " so

> > > > unless you share what your diet is specifically

> > > > I don't know for sure whether you are sabotaging

> > > > yourself by thinking you are eating healthy when

> > > > it may not be good for you. These are the lessons

> > > > I have learned... the combination of sugar and

> > > > starches are my enemy weight wise. My alternative

> > > > Doctor has been helping me with my health issues

> > > > but we made a giant leap forward when he suggested

> > > > that I deep-six wheat, rye, barley, oats,etc. Take

> > > > a look at this site to get a more in depth idea of

> > > > which grains are OK. Corn is OK on this list but a

> > > > no-go for me because it is a starch/sugar combination.

> > > > Rice is on the OK list but unless it is wild it makes

> > > > me gain weight.

> > > > www.csaceliacs.org/gluten_grains.php

> > > > Grains on the celiac " avoid " list I also must avoid

> > > > to keep my fibromyalgia pain level down and avoiding

> > > > corn and regular rice, even brown rice, keeps my weight

> > > > down. What kind of exercise do you do ? If you still

> > > > have adrenal exhaustion doing anything more than walking

> > > > 20 minutes a day will make you worse in the long run...

> > > > it's stressful to your adrenals. There are three steps

> > > > to Type 2 Diabetes...Glucose Disregulation/hypoglycemia

> > > > then Insulin Resistance and then Type 2 Diabetes. You are

> > > > a pre-Type 2 Diabetic if you have PCOS... it's part of the

syndrome.

> > It

> > > > is excellent that you are taking the coconut oil...

> > > > but space it out throughout the day. Cook your eggs and

> > > > meat in it, add it to your teas, and use it on your skin.

> > > > I would suggest that like me you need to avoid all fruit

> > > > until your weight comes off. Then just have it as a treat

> > > > on special occasions like Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.

> > > > and never eat it on an empty stomach, always have it

> > > > with a fat like coconut oil, heavy cream with no

> > > > thickeners (like carageenan, guar gum, xatham gum,

> > > > etc.), butter, etc. No potatoes until the weight comes

> > > > off and then only the red new potatoes on special occasions.

> > > > I basically just eat non starchy vegetables, meat, fish and

> > > > fats and 50 of the excess 75 pounds I have had have melted

> > > > off me so far and it still is coming off. I had to do a lot of

soul

> > > > searching and mourning as I cannot have the foods that others

eat so

> > > > freely and seemingly without consequences. I have vastly

improved

> > the

> > > > quality of the food I eat... grass fed beef, free range poultry,

> > wild

> > > > fish, cultured butter, cod liver oil, free range eggs, local and

> > > > in-season produce as much as possible, learning to cook with all

> > > > different spices, etc. Because I am eating such good quality fat

I

> > am

> > > > satiated so I merely have to fight the psychological lust for

things

> > > > that will make me gain weight or make my pain levels go up...

pretty

> > > > good motivation to stay on the straight and narrow ! I hope some

of

> > the

> > > > things I have shared help you. Do everything you can to not go

on

> > the

> > > > medications... they will just add to your woes.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I take Future Formulations Adrenal Rebuilder too !

I tried melatonin supplements and they never did a

thing for me... The Pineal Plus and the AdrenaCalm

have been a godsend. When the adrenals suffer

by being on high alert too long everything " downsteam "

suffers... hence the thyroid starting to falter too.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Metanoiagal,

> >

> > Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's

possible

> > this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well as

other

> > important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research Labs

headed

> > by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check out

this

> > site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

> >

> > I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found that

adding

> > the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several things

from

> > Premier Research Labs.

> >

> > Blessings,

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all for recommending so many products. I will check them

out! About a year or so ago I was researching information from

vitality101.com, by Dr. Teitelbaum MD, concerning extreme

fatigue. I tried several of his products but did not notice any

difference. Perhaps I didn't take them long enough or perhaps I am

expecting changes too quickly.

In any case, I stopped taking them. I just recently began taking what

was left those products since the adrenal/thyroid issues have surfaced

again via these wonderful posts! So YES I have been around this

mountain before! Perhaps I shall be circling this mountain until I

finally 'get it' and get victory and success. NEVER GIVE UP, I say!

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Metanoiagal,

> > >

> > > Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's

> possible

> > > this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well as

> other

> > > important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research Labs

> headed

> > > by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check out

> this

> > > site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

> > >

> > > I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found that

> adding

> > > the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several things

> from

> > > Premier Research Labs.

> > >

> > > Blessings,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I think what you two might be looking for is an anti-aging program.

I've done it for a couple of years and I am very vigorous for my age;

at 54 I am in better shape than I was in my early 40's. My wife after

just 10 months on it is mistaken for a 31-year old at 47

Data here; look at the list of benefits most people see, and

especially look into the research that used HGH therapy against " age-

related " and diabetes related diseases:

http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP

Duncan

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't feel like I am coming down on you

> > > > > like a ton of bricks but since I have two out of the

> > > > > three things you have I am going to speak up !

> > > > > I am hypothyroid, have adrenal exhaustion,

> > > > > fibromyalgia and silent celiac disease. You weigh

> > > > > too much, which you already know, but it is

> > > > > contributing to your cascading health problems.

> > > > > In this country we have been inundated with

> > > > > commercials for " fiber " and " good carbs " so

> > > > > unless you share what your diet is specifically

> > > > > I don't know for sure whether you are sabotaging

> > > > > yourself by thinking you are eating healthy when

> > > > > it may not be good for you. These are the lessons

> > > > > I have learned... the combination of sugar and

> > > > > starches are my enemy weight wise. My alternative

> > > > > Doctor has been helping me with my health issues

> > > > > but we made a giant leap forward when he suggested

> > > > > that I deep-six wheat, rye, barley, oats,etc. Take

> > > > > a look at this site to get a more in depth idea of

> > > > > which grains are OK. Corn is OK on this list but a

> > > > > no-go for me because it is a starch/sugar combination.

> > > > > Rice is on the OK list but unless it is wild it makes

> > > > > me gain weight.

> > > > > www.csaceliacs.org/gluten_grains.php

> > > > > Grains on the celiac " avoid " list I also must avoid

> > > > > to keep my fibromyalgia pain level down and avoiding

> > > > > corn and regular rice, even brown rice, keeps my weight

> > > > > down. What kind of exercise do you do ? If you still

> > > > > have adrenal exhaustion doing anything more than walking

> > > > > 20 minutes a day will make you worse in the long run...

> > > > > it's stressful to your adrenals. There are three steps

> > > > > to Type 2 Diabetes...Glucose Disregulation/hypoglycemia

> > > > > then Insulin Resistance and then Type 2 Diabetes. You are

> > > > > a pre-Type 2 Diabetic if you have PCOS... it's part of the

> syndrome.

> > > It

> > > > > is excellent that you are taking the coconut oil...

> > > > > but space it out throughout the day. Cook your eggs and

> > > > > meat in it, add it to your teas, and use it on your skin.

> > > > > I would suggest that like me you need to avoid all fruit

> > > > > until your weight comes off. Then just have it as a treat

> > > > > on special occasions like Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc.

> > > > > and never eat it on an empty stomach, always have it

> > > > > with a fat like coconut oil, heavy cream with no

> > > > > thickeners (like carageenan, guar gum, xatham gum,

> > > > > etc.), butter, etc. No potatoes until the weight comes

> > > > > off and then only the red new potatoes on special occasions.

> > > > > I basically just eat non starchy vegetables, meat, fish and

> > > > > fats and 50 of the excess 75 pounds I have had have melted

> > > > > off me so far and it still is coming off. I had to do a lot

of

> soul

> > > > > searching and mourning as I cannot have the foods that

others

> eat so

> > > > > freely and seemingly without consequences. I have vastly

> improved

> > > the

> > > > > quality of the food I eat... grass fed beef, free range

poultry,

> > > wild

> > > > > fish, cultured butter, cod liver oil, free range eggs,

local and

> > > > > in-season produce as much as possible, learning to cook

with all

> > > > > different spices, etc. Because I am eating such good

quality fat

> I

> > > am

> > > > > satiated so I merely have to fight the psychological lust

for

> things

> > > > > that will make me gain weight or make my pain levels go

up...

> pretty

> > > > > good motivation to stay on the straight and narrow ! I hope

some

> of

> > > the

> > > > > things I have shared help you. Do everything you can to not

go

> on

> > > the

> > > > > medications... they will just add to your woes.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I tried his products for over three months

and they did absolutely nothing for me.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Metanoiagal,

> > > >

> > > > Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's

> > possible

> > > > this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well

as

> > other

> > > > important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research

Labs

> > headed

> > > > by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check

out

> > this

> > > > site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

> > > >

> > > > I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found

that

> > adding

> > > > the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several

things

> > from

> > > > Premier Research Labs.

> > > >

> > > > Blessings,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

So where do you buy the Pineal Plus and AdrenaCalm? I need to find

something that'll work! I would imagine the Future Foundations also

has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find all

three products on one site somewhere?

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Metanoiagal,

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program? It's

> > > possible

> > > > > this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as well

> as

> > > other

> > > > > important functions. I prefer the products by Premier Research

> Labs

> > > headed

> > > > > by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex, check

> out

> > > this

> > > > > site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

> > > > >

> > > > > I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have found

> that

> > > adding

> > > > > the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use several

> things

> > > from

> > > > > Premier Research Labs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Blessings,

> > > > >

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I bought them from my Chiropractor but I just

checked and you can buy them online. The

Atrium Pineal Plus will be about $17 and the

Apex Energetics AdrenaCalm will be about $38,

Adrenal Rebuilder for 150 tablets about $56.

Keep the AdrenaCalm on your bedside. You can

use it as many times you need during the night

if you get any wakefulness. Just roll over, put

a 1/4 teaspoon or fingernail dollop on another

spot on your torso and fall back to sleep. My

daughters' husband calls it " sleepytime cream "

as he knows when she rubs it on that she will be

asleep very soon. Your adrenals did not get stressed

overnight and your healing will take some time. At my

worst, even if someone just startled me I would flush,

get hot and feel like I had electrical shocks coursing

through my body. Now it happens very rarely. I would

not advise that you actively try to lose weight. Let it

come off naturally for the time being. Your body is in

emergency mode and until you get some good quality and

quantity of sleep your body is not going to release any

fat... it's storing it because you are doing things that

are telling your body to hold on and conserve because

you are in danger. Take a nice, steady 20 minute walk...

no race walking !!!... and enjoy the fresh air and sunshine.

Relax !!! Let your adrenals heal !!! Actively cut your

carbs to 20 a day and stop all fruit until you stabilize.

No, you will not heal overnight. Yes, you are expecting

too much. Your healings will come like little whispers,

sometimes so barely perceptible that when they happen

you say to yourself... hey, I just realized I am sleeping

a lot better !, or my thinking is clearer !, etc. You are going

to become a student of the subtle which will be hard for

you because you have been pushing yourself so hard for

so long. I am so proud of you for not giving up ! I hope

you will keep us abreast of your healing... because it

can happen if you let it... but it won't come without some

sacrifice. I had to give up on having an immaculate house...

I have to keep on a schedule... I have to stop when I feel stressed...

no more " pushing through it " because my thyroid usually swells and makes

me feel like I am choking if I've

done anything physical for too long...those sort of things.

Only my best to you !!!

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> > > > > > Have you added any Adrenal support to your daily program?

It's

> > > > possible

> > > > > > this is the missing link that can help you sleep better as

well

> > as

> > > > other

> > > > > > important functions. I prefer the products by Premier

Research

> > Labs

> > > > headed

> > > > > > by Dr. Bob Marshall. To read about their Adrenal Complex,

check

> > out

> > > > this

> > > > > > site: http://www.phpure. com/q_nutrition_ products. htm

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> > > > > > I have thyroid as well as several other issues and have

found

> > that

> > > > adding

> > > > > > the adrenal support has made a huge difference. I use

several

> > things

> > > > from

> > > > > > Premier Research Labs.

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> > > > > > Blessings,

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[Guest guest]

Wow, thanks so much for all that information AND for the

encouragement, guidance and HOPE! Do you think I should try these

products all at once or do one for awhile then add another? I was

thinking of trying the cream first. I also do progesterone cream and

have done that for years.

I agree with what you said. The excess fat is a SYMPTOM of overall

unhealth so my focus should be on overall restoration of complete

health, THEN the weight will balance out again. At least that's my

theory and only time will prove it true or not. Yes, I believe the

excess fat is a PROTECTIVE thing that my body is doing. What

amazingly designed creatures we are!

I'm am also beginning to believe it's tied to emotional/mental balance

too. The brain fog, memory loss, emotional outbursts, over reacting

to things, irritability, depression, etc., have to be the result of

overall poor health! I mean, the brain IS part of the body! It could

be others things too, but overall, a healthy person, it seems to me,

should be able to 'roll with the punches' of life and 'deal with

problems' in a healthy manner. Before I began my quest for health and

balance, I 'coped' with life with smokes, drugs, relationships, booze,

sweets, etc., for over 30 years! I am hoping a healthy body will also

mean a healthy mind too. It is sure worth the effort!

Not sure why I went down that rabbit trail, but for some reason, it's

been on my mind lately and I guess I wanted feedback. Trying to solve

the puzzle, as it were. Thanks again! You are a dear!

Bless you!

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> > So where do you buy the Pineal Plus and AdrenaCalm? I need to find

> > something that'll work! I would imagine the Future Foundations also

> > has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find all

> > three products on one site somewhere?

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness !!! It has been my privilege

and pleasure ! I am coming out of such a dark

hole myself that when I see someone I think

might be sinking with a millstone around their

neck I cannot do anything but put my hand out

and tell them hold on... let me help you take

the millstone from around your neck... I 've

been where you are heading and I can't bear

to see you go there ! Yes, I do think you

should do all that I have suggested at once

as the things I have shared with you are

mainly glandulars as opposed to supplements,

per se. Stay on the progesterone. The more I

have learned about nutrition the more I have

learned that the body is an amazing and intricate

and community sort of entity. The Bible says that

the body ( community ) of Christ is like the body

and there is not one part that is not needed...

even the unseemly and hidden parts of our body !

That is so beautiful to me !!! When one organ or

gland is unable to do it's job other organs or

glands will come in, slow down all the bodys'

processes, reroute and make do... for a time .

But it can't do that long term without dire

consequences. So, back to you and how you

are doing... with what you have decided to do

you are not going to be almost bedridden like

I was. You need to realize that and be thankful.

Again, you're going to have to be patient but as

they say " Patience is a virtue " so you are going to

end up being virtuous too !!! You have made a very

important discovery about the physical, emotional

and spiritual components of our being and life.

When the time comes and your body starts shedding

fat you will go through some more " unexplained "

issues because there are not only toxins in your

fat but there are stuck emotions in there too...

but to be forewarned is to be forearmed. If you

know it's coming you won't be taken by surprise or

alarmed ! It's just part of detoxing the old and

bringing in the positive new ! You have not gone

down a rabbit hole at all... you are making some

new discoveries about yourself ! I heard someone

say that denial is a thief and rationalization is his

partner in crime... you are beginning to do some

deep soul searching and realizing some of the things

you did to yourself were hurtful and detrimental in

a lot of ways. It's not the end of the world, though !

It's the beginning of a bright new future !!! You can't

change the past... you can only live in the present and

do the best you can to try and insure that tomorrow

will be better and you are doing just that !!! I am

SO excited for you !!!

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> > > So where do you buy the Pineal Plus and AdrenaCalm? I need to

find

> > > something that'll work! I would imagine the Future Foundations

also

> > > has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find

all

> > > three products on one site somewhere?

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[Guest guest]

You are SO helpful to me and it's exactly the time when I needed the

information AND the encouragement! Gotta be a God thing!

Well, yesterday I ordered the Adrenal Calm and Adrenal Rebuilder. I

found them both at a company in WI so it should be here quickly. I

hope it helps! It was hard to find. Last night I tried two melatonin

instead of my xanax and it didn't help at all. Sometimes it works,

sometimes it doesn't. Even at it's best, I wake up often during the

night. The xanax is only slightly better tho, and so much worse for

the body. But lack of sleep is worse than all that!

I agree totally with your analogy of our bodies to the body of Christ.

I would say that is probably why we are created and designed the way

we are. All of creation reflects the glory of God to His creations if

we only have eyes to see it.

I am still considering your suggestion about going to 20 carbs and no

fruit. Reminds me of Phase 1 Atkins. It was VERY tough to do! But I

will continue to think it over. I suppose I could try it for a week

or two if I can stand it that long! HA.

Thanks for being such a blessing!!

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> > > > So where do you buy the Pineal Plus and AdrenaCalm? I need to

> find

> > > > something that'll work! I would imagine the Future Foundations

> also

> > > > has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find

> all

> > > > three products on one site somewhere?

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[Guest guest]

Have you ever tried valerian for sleep....I tried melatonin once and felt

like my head was in a fog til 2pm...valerian works good for me!!!

ANN

Re: High blood sugar

You are SO helpful to me and it's exactly the time when I needed the

information AND the encouragement! Gotta be a God thing!

Well, yesterday I ordered the Adrenal Calm and Adrenal Rebuilder. I found

them both at a company in WI so it should be here quickly. I hope it helps!

It was hard to find. Last night I tried two melatonin instead of my xanax

and it didn't help at all. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Even at

it's best, I wake up often during the night. The xanax is only slightly

better tho, and so much worse for the body. But lack of sleep is worse than

all that!

I agree totally with your analogy of our bodies to the body of Christ.

I would say that is probably why we are created and designed the way we are.

All of creation reflects the glory of God to His creations if we only have

eyes to see it.

I am still considering your suggestion about going to 20 carbs and no fruit.

Reminds me of Phase 1 Atkins. It was VERY tough to do! But I will continue

to think it over. I suppose I could try it for a week or two if I can stand

it that long! HA.

Thanks for being such a blessing!!

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> > > > has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find

> all

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[Guest guest]

Yes Ann I have. Also have tried 5 HTP, lemon balm, hops, Bach's

flower remedy, Calm's forte, teas, drugs, lavender, calcium/magnesium,

EFT, eye mask, soft music, etc. Melatonin never had THAT much effect

either on me, but it worked better than the rest did. I also have to

have a fan blowing on me all night otherwise I get too hot, even in

the winter with the window open! Must be the 100 lbs of extra padding

on me! ha.

Two years ago I had to fly from Indiana to Washington after my dad

died and I HATE to fly. Since I had given up alcohol in 1997, I

decided I'd take some valerian root instead as I had a layover in

Denver. It was in Oct. and a snow storm was moving in behind us in

Denver so the ride IN and OUT was very bumpy! By the time I landed in

Seattle, I had taken about 40 valerian root and it didn't even make a

dent. I took the TRAIN home!

My doc did give me Ambien once but after reading the side effects I

never took it. Didn't like the idea of driving or eating while

asleep!! EEEKKK!!

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> > > > > So where do you buy the Pineal Plus and AdrenaCalm? I need to

> > find

> > > > > something that'll work! I would imagine the Future Foundations

> > also

> > > > > has a site you can purchase their products from? Or can you find

> > all

> > > > > three products on one site somewhere?

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