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I'm on Ketek but have not bought it privately. My receipt says the price is $297

for a month's supply. It certainly giving me the worst herx ever;now into my

third month.

Phil

[ ] Ketek..price

If anyone has used ketek, and has privately bought it, please let me know

how expensive it is and if you have found a reasonably priced place to buy

it.

It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme. I don't have

prescription coverage.

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Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it didn't help me. Check to see

if your doctor can get you samples to try for a while to see if it will help you

with out you wasting your money.

bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek, and has privately bought it,

please let me know

how expensive it is and if you have found a reasonably priced place to buy it.

It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme. I don't have

prescription coverage.

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Again, Ketek is a dangerous antibiotic (you can read all about it on

worstpills.org) and it is not a good choice for lyme because the

erythromycins work much better and are less expensive. Ketek is just a new

generation of erythromycin that the drug company is trying to profit from by

altering the molecule ever so slightly so they can obtain a different

patent, while the other erythromycins are available as generics (excluding

Zithromax). Erythromycins in general are 4th line choices for lyme in

patients who are allergic to penicillins and cephalasporins, and they are

not as effective. Ketek is very expensive, is not worth the price, and is

not safe to take on a long-term basis.

Greg

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Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it didn't help me. Check to

see if your doctor can get you samples to try for a while to see if it will

help you with out you wasting your money.

bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek, and has privately bought

it, please let me know

how expensive it is and if you have found a reasonably priced place to buy

it.

It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme. I don't have

prescription coverage.

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greg ketek is not the same as the others and it is the

only drug in the macrolide class that crosses the bbb.

it has worked well for myself and others...it is the

same difference between doxy and mino however they are

very differant drugs,i dont think you understand

that..I am not trying to pick a fight with you but I

think that you are confusing the lyme aid group when

you say things about an antibiotic, you are confusing

people and they may push the drug away when they

really need it..ketek has a property that is very

usefull and that is why it is used..all antibiotics

have side effects...also I believe that the group has

to be able to trust there doctor and follow treatment

without bieng scared by others views that may not make

a difference in the whole thing anyway..

eric

--- Greg Guillot <guillot@...> wrote:

> Again, Ketek is a dangerous antibiotic (you can read

> all about it on

> worstpills.org) and it is not a good choice for lyme

> because the

> erythromycins work much better and are less

> expensive. Ketek is just a new

> generation of erythromycin that the drug company is

> trying to profit from by

> altering the molecule ever so slightly so they can

> obtain a different

> patent, while the other erythromycins are available

> as generics (excluding

> Zithromax). Erythromycins in general are 4th line

> choices for lyme in

> patients who are allergic to penicillins and

> cephalasporins, and they are

> not as effective. Ketek is very expensive, is not

> worth the price, and is

> not safe to take on a long-term basis.

>

>

> Greg

>

> Re: [ ] Ketek..price

>

> Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it

> didn't help me. Check to

> see if your doctor can get you samples to try for a

> while to see if it will

> help you with out you wasting your money.

>

> bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek,

> and has privately bought

> it, please let me know

> how expensive it is and if you have found a

> reasonably priced place to buy

> it.

> It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme.

> I don't have

> prescription coverage.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I trust worstpills.org in pharmaceutical matters, as they are a

well-respected organization concerning drug efficacy and safety. Minocin

and doxycycline are slightly different of course, and this accounts for

their different side-effects profile. Doxy has some penetration, but not

very much, into the blood brain barrier, and minocin has more. Both drugs

are synthetic versions of tetracycline and have many of the same properties.

However, Minocin causes lupus and serum sickness and doxy does not. Doxy is

older and has a more established safety profile.

Here's an article about Ketek, which recommends that it not be taken.

Please read this carefully , before you get mad at me, OK? All of the

macrolides have been found to cause irregular heartbeats, and to increase

the risk of heart attacks several fold. Ketek is worse. There is more --

please read on -- this is accurate scientific information, based on

published studies, and the shaky FDA approval process Ketek had to undergo

(it was barely approved). It is no more effective than other antibiotics

and has already caused at least one verified death.

Greg

Do Not Use Do Not Use

Generic drug name: telithromycin (tel ith roe MYE sin) View the drug label

using Adobe Acrobat Reader

Brand name(s): KETEK (Aventis Pharmaceuticals Inc.)

FAMILY: Ketolides

Alternative Treatment: [top]

See erythromycin, azithromycin, and clarithromycin. These are safer

antibiotics approved to treat the same infections as this drug.

Facts About This Drug: [top]

Telithromycin was approved by the FDA in April 2004 for the treatment of

mild to moderate community-acquired pneumonia, acute bacterial exacerbation

of chronic bronchitis, and acute bacterial sinusitis. The chemical structure

of telithromycin, which is classed as a ketolide, is similar to the

macrolide drug family, which includes erythromycin, clarithromycin, and

azithromycin.

Telithromycin is approved by the FDA for treatment of community-acquired

pneumonia due to multidrug-resistant Streptococcus pneumoniae (MDRSP). MDRSP

includes penicillin-resistant S. pneumoniae and those bacteria that are also

resistant to two or more of the following antibiotics: penicillin,

second-generation cephalosporins, the macrolides mentioned above,

tetracyclines, and trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole. Levofloxacin, a

fluoroquinolone, is currently approved for treatment against S. pneumoniae

resistant to penicillin; however, at this time there is no agent other than

telithromycin approved for treatment against S. pneumoniae resistant to

erythromycin or to any other macrolide in the United States.

Telithromycin has undergone a long drug approval process with the FDA. The

makers of telithromycin, Aventis Pharmaceuticals, submitted the new drug

application (NDA) in March of 2000. The drug went through two advisory

committee reviews because of efficacy and safety issues before it was

approved in April of 2004. Since 2001, telithromycin has been marketed in

Germany, Spain, Italy, Brazil, and Mexico.1 It is also marketed in Canada

and the UK.

In the original application, Aventis requested approval to market for four

indications: tonsillopharyngitis (tonsillitis), acute worsening of

bronchitis, sinusitis, and community-acquired pneumonia. Tonsillopharyngitis

was not approved by the FDA based on the agency's guidelines for the

efficacy of first-line claims for antibiotics. The clinical success rate

must be at least 85%, according to the FDA's guidelines, for a first-line

claim. Telithromycin failed to show the 85% success rate for the treatment

of tonsillopharyngitis. Interestingly, the rule of thumb did not apply to

the other three indications, which were later approved.2 3

The Anti-infective Drug Advisory Committee was unable to make a unanimous

decision about the efficacy and safety of telithromycin. Some members

believed there was insufficient evidence to prove the efficacy of

telithromycin for the treatment of acute worsening of chronic bronchitis,

since one of the leading causes of the illness, the bacteria Haemophilus

influenzae, was only 60 to 77% eradicated by the drug.4 5 Furthermore, one

member even questioned the efficacy of the other drugs compared to

telithromycin in clinical studies, which led to her disapproval for all

three indications: " The data at hand does not establish the efficacy of the

comparators [drug being compared to telithromycin]...without data in front

of us establishing the efficacy of the comparators, the data in front of us

does not establish efficacy of this drug [telithromycin]. " 6

The committee was also split in its decision about the effectiveness of

telithromycin against MDRSP. Telithromcyin cure rates were 90% for

erythromycin-resistant S. pneumoniae, 70% for penicillin-resistant S.

pneumoniae, and 68.8% for penicillin plus erythromycin-resistant S.

pneumoniae.7 The evidence of its efficacy for patients with MDRSP and severe

infection was based on a small number of patients and demands further

evaluation.7 Drug-resistant S. pneumoniae frequently respond to drugs they

are supposedly resistant to, even cases of bacteremic pneumonia.

Most of the adverse effects for telithromycin are similar to those for other

macrolides, mainly headache, dizziness, nausea, and diarrhea. But

telithromycin also has a risk for heart, liver, and eye toxicity. Data from

a large U.S. safety study, number 3014, was submitted to the FDA following

the first approvable letter. However, the major weakness of the trial was

its design, which may have led to an underestimation of reported adverse

events and limited the collection and completeness of information about each

adverse drug reaction.8

Telithromycin causes QT prolongation, and the prolongation increases with

increasing doses of the drug. QT prolongation may develop into a

life-threatening heart rhythm disturbance known as torsades de pointes. Two

cases of torsades de pointes were reported at the Anti-infective Drug

Advisory Committee meeting, and the events were suspected to be drug

related.9 10 QT prolongation is also reported with some other macrolides,

fluoroquinolones, and cephalosporin antibiotics.

Another concern with telithromycin, liver toxicity, is reported with

macrolides as well. At the time of the January 8, 2003, advisory committee

meeting, the FDA had received 54 reports of liver adverse event reports with

telithromycin from countries in which the drug had been marketed, of which

19 were categorized as serious.11

Blurred vision that significantly impaired patients' ability to perform

daily activities was reported during clinical trials.12 The visual

disturbances mainly occurred in women and the young. Visual side effects

occurred 1 to 3 hours after a dose and the effect lasted up to 20 hours.12

From countries in which the drug was first marketed, the FDA has received

reports of 167 visual adverse events, of which 42 were categorized as

serious. Telithromycin appears to cause more visual disturbances compared to

macrolides already on the market.

Other concerns with telithromycin include vasculitis (inflammation of blood

vessels) and worsening of myasthenia gravis, which has resulted in one

fatality.13 14

Telithromycin has been shown to be no more effective than other antibiotics:

amoxicillin, cefuroxime, clarithromycin, or trovafloxacin. Furthermore, the

adverse-effect profile is no better than for macrolides already on the

market, it is possibly less safe, and there is a higher risk for drug

interactions. The only factor that sets telithromycin apart from the rest is

the FDA-approved use for treatment against macrolide-resistant S.

pneumoniae. The clinical importance of macrolide resistance is up for

debate. Although there is an increase in macrolide-resistant pneumococci in

the United States, the number of clinical failures has not risen.15

Research has found no difference in deaths for pneumonia patients infected

with drug-sensitive or -resistant bacteria after controlling for other risk

factors, except patients with resistant bacteria have a more prolonged

hospital stay.16 The guidelines established by the Infectious Diseases

Society of America states: " A macrolide plus a beta lactam is recommended

for initial empiric treatment of outpatients in whom resistance is an issue

and for hospitalized patients. " 15 In addition, experts believe the type of

macrolide resistance found in the United States may be overcome by

increasing the dose of the drug.

Some may feel very excited at the development of a " new " antibiotic and a

" new " drug class and may argue that there is a need for more drugs. We would

argue that we do not need more drugs, we need better drugs, and

telithromycin is a drug that should not have been approved by the FDA.

We agree with the editors of the highly respected French drug journal

Prescrire International who stated that " telithromycin is a needless

addition to the other macrolides. " 17

last reviewed December 15, 2004

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Thanks Greg for the Ketek info, I sent the link to my lyme friend who was

taking for lyme. She also has MG and she had been getting weaker, breathing more

labored, etc. The link you sent mentioned that someone with MG died while

taking Ketek, made the MG fatal.

Thanks for the info/heads up. Everyone is different, what works for one may not

work for others.

eric schulman <eric_s11050@...> wrote:

greg ketek is not the same as the others and it is the

only drug in the macrolide class that crosses the bbb.

it has worked well for myself and others...it is the

same difference between doxy and mino however they are

very differant drugs,i dont think you understand

that..I am not trying to pick a fight with you but I

think that you are confusing the lyme aid group when

you say things about an antibiotic, you are confusing

people and they may push the drug away when they

really need it..ketek has a property that is very

usefull and that is why it is used..all antibiotics

have side effects...also I believe that the group has

to be able to trust there doctor and follow treatment

without bieng scared by others views that may not make

a difference in the whole thing anyway..

eric

--- Greg Guillot wrote:

> Again, Ketek is a dangerous antibiotic (you can read

> all about it on

> worstpills.org) and it is not a good choice for lyme

> because the

> erythromycins work much better and are less

> expensive. Ketek is just a new

> generation of erythromycin that the drug company is

> trying to profit from by

> altering the molecule ever so slightly so they can

> obtain a different

> patent, while the other erythromycins are available

> as generics (excluding

> Zithromax). Erythromycins in general are 4th line

> choices for lyme in

> patients who are allergic to penicillins and

> cephalasporins, and they are

> not as effective. Ketek is very expensive, is not

> worth the price, and is

> not safe to take on a long-term basis.

>

>

> Greg

>

> Re: [ ] Ketek..price

>

> Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it

> didn't help me. Check to

> see if your doctor can get you samples to try for a

> while to see if it will

> help you with out you wasting your money.

>

> bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek,

> and has privately bought

> it, please let me know

> how expensive it is and if you have found a

> reasonably priced place to buy

> it.

> It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme.

> I don't have

> prescription coverage.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Whats MG?

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> >

> > Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it

> > didn't help me. Check to

> > see if your doctor can get you samples to try for a

> > while to see if it will

> > help you with out you wasting your money.

> >

> > bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek,

> > and has privately bought

> > it, please let me know

> > how expensive it is and if you have found a

> > reasonably priced place to buy

> > it.

> > It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme.

> > I don't have

> > prescription coverage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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MG is myasthenia gravis.

Also, I found another article on Ketek, as well as the black box monogram in

the PDR, which indicates it reacts terribly to statin drugs and

cannot/should not be taken by people on such cholesterol drugs as lipitor,

prevachol, mevacor,etc. Also, early studies indicated that Ketek causes

retinal damage and there are reports of blindness.

Sorry to be a worry wort, but we have learned here in the era of Vioxx,

Baycol, Bextra, etc., that the FDA approval process is largely political,

and the dangers of new drugs are seldom fully known until 7 years after

they've hit the market. Of course, by then it's too late. See Viagra as

well, which has now been implicated in spontaneous blindness that is

irreversible. The FDA does not conduct a single study on drugs - all

studies are performed and financed by the drug manufacturers, who formulate

the studies with a view towards getting FDA approval. After that, the

dangers do not become known until the drugs are in the field, and the safety

of Ketek has been very " iffy " since it went to market.

Greg

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Here's some info re: MG

http://disability.ucdavis.edu/resources/diseases/list/disease.asp?id=22

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> >

> > Hi, My doctor gave me samples for a while but, it

> > didn't help me. Check to

> > see if your doctor can get you samples to try for a

> > while to see if it will

> > help you with out you wasting your money.

> >

> > bailieboy@... wrote:If anyone has used ketek,

> > and has privately bought

> > it, please let me know

> > how expensive it is and if you have found a

> > reasonably priced place to buy

> > it.

> > It is a fairly new antibiotic being used for Lyme.

> > I don't have

> > prescription coverage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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