Re: Shoemaker and CSM treatment

[Guest guest]

Jeannie W wrote:

> I found messages in the archives where people discussed Shoemaker's theories

of using cholestryramine to " cure " lyme, and even some where people had just

started on it. Anybody

> follow through and have either success or lack of success?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> Since one Lyme doc had me do all the R. Showmaker recommened testing through

LabCorp & it showed I could have the worst possible case of CFS + mold

toxicities,

Wow, mold +Lyme+CFS.

Which tests from LabCorp are for mold toxicity? Is it easier for people to get

mold toxicity when they have Lyme? I also worry about that.

mei

> the doc I am seeing now was knew of his protocol & put me on the tiniest dose

of CSM since am so sensitive to everything-even that amount, my symptoms flared

so badly, including the depression, so we had to stop it.

>

> Jeannie

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Shoemaker's test from Laboratory Corporation of America is a genetic

test to determine if one lacks something to help detoxify from the mold

toxins. It isn't an allergy test. I didn't test as having the genetic

defect, but my husband did. Ironically, my husband is not bothered by mold.

He works around mold in attics and basements running network cabling for

computer systems and also remodeled our bathroom, which had these plastic

tiles on the walls, and underneath the tiles it was covered almost solid

with mold on the walls. He was able to do that without having any increase

of problems at all.

Me on the other hand, I didn't test as having the genetic defect, (rather I

tested as having a gene that he says he only sees in chronic Lyme patients)

but I do have major problems with mold. It makes all my symptoms flare up,

and I seem to have a problem reducing the symptoms once they flare, which I

would assume would mean that I'm not getting rid of the toxins very well. I

also break out in hives and have asthma around mold. And I was miserable

when we were tearing out the sheetrock from the bathroom, even though we

have a whole house hepa filter with ultraviolet sterilizing light, and an

oversized hepa filter in my bedroom, where I holed up, and tried to avoid

breathing as much as possible, and wheezed, and coughed, and was miserable

for days afterwards. I have tested as having an allergy to mold, and I've

also been muscle tested for mold by my BioSET practitioner and found to have

a problem with it energetically that we haven't been able to clear

completely. So I think there is a flaw somewhere in Dr. Shoemaker's testing

somehow. My husband, who tested as having a problem with mold, doesn't have

a problem with mold that we can tell. While he is dyslexic, and tested as

having a problem with the VCS test, he otherwise doesn't have any neurotoxic

symptoms at all, and is in generally a very healthy person.

Aside from that, I think that Lyme can cause shifts in immune function,

making one more prone to allergies. And also, the neurotoxins and increased

waste products in the body compete with mold toxins for detoxification. So

even if someone doesn't have the genetic characteristic that Dr. Shoemaker

tests for, it is still possible to have a problem with mold.

My naturopath gave me several different homeopathic products that are

supposed to help improve detoxification from molds, but they didn't do a

thing for me. My BioSET practitioner had me get air samples, and samples of

the mold in my house (before we removed it when we remodeled) and made up a

vibrational energy spray that I can spray around the house to help

neutralize the energy signature of the mold. It does help a little, but I

wish it wasn't water based, because I don't like adding anything to the

environment that might encourage mold.

lindaj@...

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for such thoughtful answers. I really appreciate them. I learned

so much from

this group. It does make sense that Lyme could cause allergies to mold

indirectly.

I am also in the process of evaluating whole house air purification systems. I

heard and read

a lot about ozone air purifier, even from the new book called " Beating Lyme

Disease " . But I

still have some reservation about ozone. I have tried a 5 stage filtering system

including UV

light, it seems to work for my room for a while. But the negative ion generator

from Sharper

Image did not seem to work for me. For the whole house, ozone seems to be

easier, but is it

really safe?

mei

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I do not know if anyone answered you question... but, Dr. Shoemaker

does not think CSM can cure lyme... he thinks that it removes the

neurotoxins from the body... he thinks neurotoxins from diseased

waters and fish can mimic lyme disease and if his patients do not

test positive for lyme he has a test for vision contrast... so then

he has a protocol for the neurotoxins.. I used to have a copy of his

lyme treatment protocol... you take abx...and go on a bread free,

rice free diet with the use a type 2 diabetic med... well, anyway I

have read two of his books...you also have to take some sort of

laxative or high fiber with the CSM... because it does constipate...

I did take the CSM for a while and I think it cut down on my Herx

like symptoms (not sure if it is a herx, so I will say herx like)

but, the constipation was a problem... He does have a website

chronicneurotoxins.com and he will answer emails and send you a copy

of his lyme treatment protocol... Hope this helps,

Take care,

>

> > I found messages in the archives where people discussed . Anybody

> > follow through and have either success or lack of success?

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > Since one Lyme doc had me do all the R. Showmaker recommened

testing through LabCorp & it showed I could have the worst possible

case of CFS + mold toxicities,

>

> Wow, mold +Lyme+CFS.

> Which tests from LabCorp are for mold toxicity? Is it easier for

people to get mold toxicity when they have Lyme? I also worry about

that.

> mei

>

> > the doc I am seeing now was knew of his protocol & put me on the

tiniest dose of CSM since am so sensitive to everything-even that

amount, my symptoms flared so badly, including the depression, so we

had to stop it.

> >

> > Jeannie

> >