Re: Governor Vetoes OPMC Bill

[Guest guest]

He is a Republican he must help cover-up the horrible things they are

doing to America and Americans despite anything else. It would have been

a true miracle if he had not vetoed it. Surely, he is still angry at us

for losing the NY world headquarters for Galxco-Wellcome because he

could not control our doctors and us to allow fellow Republicans to

become rich off of the dangerous LymeRix Vaccine.

I am so grateful for your work and dedication and wish this nightmare

was over and we were not living under tyranny. Holocaust survivors have

been telling us online and trying to get into the corporate controlled

media to warn us we are doing the same wrong things for the same wrong

reasons as Germany in the middle 1930's and unless we can get our fellow

Americans blinders off there is going to be unbelievable suffering and

death.Their words, not mine.

The handling of Lyme Disease hints that this time they won't need

concentration camps to kill " undesirables " . They need only release

another germ that targets certain genetic populations and then withhold

treatment..

May God and those that love him, our fellow man, and life make sure that

doesn't happen.

Lynn in St

[ ] 7:30PM- GOVERNOR VETOES OPMC BILL

Dear Lyme friends,

I'm sorry to have to tell you that Governor Pataki did

just veto the OPMC Reform bill.

Thank you so much to all of you who worked so hard and

so long on this bill. For sick people to have shown

this kind of valor is amazing.

It ain't over until we have protected our doctors. I

will be talking to people who have been working behind

the scenes to see what steps we can take next.

When you've been this sick for as long as many of us

have been you sort of learn to become like one of

those Shmoo dolls that I used to have as a kid. Do

you remember those large weighted balloons that you

would sock and it would fall down , but no matter how

many times you knocked it down, it would bounce up

again.

Maybe the image of the Phoenix rising from the ashes

is more heroic, but somehow the Shmoo is more like how

I feel now.

So tonight we're down, but we will pop-up in our old

Shmoo-like way soon enough.

Anyone who still has energy to call and let the

Governor know that he has betrayed some very sick

people, please do call.

Keep it polite, because it will have more effect that

way - not because I am feeling particularly polite

to him at the moment.

What we have gotten in the last few years is a state

legislature that has become sympathetic to Lyme

patients .

We could not get the Governor to sign our bill because

of other pressures brought to bear on him. But we

have at least gotten him to hear the Lyme issues -

unlike when we started.

So there's a lot of work to do. I suspect that the

Governor will start again next session (January) on

his own OPMC Reform bill and we will get involved with

that.. This is just going by what i had heard

previously and I won't know this for sure for a few

days.

So please spread the word about the veto. Cry, scream,

throw things. Do whatever you need to do to deal with

this disgusting treatment we have gotten from the

Governor.

But please let's keep united. We will certainly

ultimately win. It's just gonna take longer than we

thought.

Much love to all,

Ellen

[Guest guest]

I can understand the anger and frustration as I feel it, too. But,

misplaced anger won't get us anywhere. I'm not a Republican (I'm

independent) and my perspective is that there's enough blame in this deal to

go around--regardless of party. For those who have read Carroll's

Lab 257 (great book for Lymies to read if you want a chance to release your

anger!!!), you'll see that both parties have been " a party to " setting us up

for the controversies we're experiencing now. I'm in Oregon--a VERY

Democratic state (and adjacent to Washington which is, too) and we are said

to be the WORST states at acknowledging Lyme. I really don't believe it's

just one party--but political interests (and lobbying) on both sides.

Elaine

Re: [ ] Governor Vetoes OPMC Bill

He is a Republican he must help cover-up the horrible things they are

doing to America and Americans despite anything else. It would have been

a true miracle if he had not vetoed it. Surely, he is still angry at us

for losing the NY world headquarters for Galxco-Wellcome because he

could not control our doctors and us to allow fellow Republicans to

become rich off of the dangerous LymeRix Vaccine.

I am so grateful for your work and dedication and wish this nightmare

was over and we were not living under tyranny. Holocaust survivors have

been telling us online and trying to get into the corporate controlled

media to warn us we are doing the same wrong things for the same wrong

reasons as Germany in the middle 1930's and unless we can get our fellow

Americans blinders off there is going to be unbelievable suffering and

death.Their words, not mine.

The handling of Lyme Disease hints that this time they won't need

concentration camps to kill " undesirables " . They need only release

another germ that targets certain genetic populations and then withhold

treatment..

May God and those that love him, our fellow man, and life make sure that

doesn't happen.

Lynn in St

[ ] 7:30PM- GOVERNOR VETOES OPMC BILL

Dear Lyme friends,

I'm sorry to have to tell you that Governor Pataki did

just veto the OPMC Reform bill.

Thank you so much to all of you who worked so hard and

so long on this bill. For sick people to have shown

this kind of valor is amazing.

It ain't over until we have protected our doctors. I

will be talking to people who have been working behind

the scenes to see what steps we can take next.

When you've been this sick for as long as many of us

have been you sort of learn to become like one of

those Shmoo dolls that I used to have as a kid. Do

you remember those large weighted balloons that you

would sock and it would fall down , but no matter how

many times you knocked it down, it would bounce up

again.

Maybe the image of the Phoenix rising from the ashes

is more heroic, but somehow the Shmoo is more like how

I feel now.

So tonight we're down, but we will pop-up in our old

Shmoo-like way soon enough.

Anyone who still has energy to call and let the

Governor know that he has betrayed some very sick

people, please do call.

Keep it polite, because it will have more effect that

way - not because I am feeling particularly polite

to him at the moment.

What we have gotten in the last few years is a state

legislature that has become sympathetic to Lyme

patients .

We could not get the Governor to sign our bill because

of other pressures brought to bear on him. But we

have at least gotten him to hear the Lyme issues -

unlike when we started.

So there's a lot of work to do. I suspect that the

Governor will start again next session (January) on

his own OPMC Reform bill and we will get involved with

that.. This is just going by what i had heard

previously and I won't know this for sure for a few

days.

So please spread the word about the veto. Cry, scream,

throw things. Do whatever you need to do to deal with

this disgusting treatment we have gotten from the

Governor.

But please let's keep united. We will certainly

ultimately win. It's just gonna take longer than we

thought.

Much love to all,

Ellen

Questions and/or comments can be directed to the list owner at

-Owner

[Guest guest]

I'm in Ohio and our medical professionals do not believe Lyme is here

either. The best friend a person could ever have continues her 30 year

battle with Lyme; and as there are no LLMD's in Ohio, we travel to Dr. B.

We grow so very weary of controlling politics, but sadly, politics do

control. My friend and I certainly applaud everyone's effort and dedication

and will support the next step in any way we can.

Blessings,

Sandy Tusing

Trenton, OH

[ ] 7:30PM- GOVERNOR VETOES OPMC BILL

>

>

>

>

> Dear Lyme friends,

> I'm sorry to have to tell you that Governor Pataki did

> just veto the OPMC Reform bill.

>

> Thank you so much to all of you who worked so hard and

> so long on this bill. For sick people to have shown

> this kind of valor is amazing.

>

> It ain't over until we have protected our doctors. I

> will be talking to people who have been working behind

> the scenes to see what steps we can take next.

>

> When you've been this sick for as long as many of us

> have been you sort of learn to become like one of

> those Shmoo dolls that I used to have as a kid. Do

> you remember those large weighted balloons that you

> would sock and it would fall down , but no matter how

> many times you knocked it down, it would bounce up

> again.

>

> Maybe the image of the Phoenix rising from the ashes

> is more heroic, but somehow the Shmoo is more like how

> I feel now.

>

> So tonight we're down, but we will pop-up in our old

> Shmoo-like way soon enough.

>

> Anyone who still has energy to call and let the

> Governor know that he has betrayed some very sick

> people, please do call.

>

> Keep it polite, because it will have more effect that

> way - not because I am feeling particularly polite

> to him at the moment.

>

> What we have gotten in the last few years is a state

> legislature that has become sympathetic to Lyme

> patients .

>

> We could not get the Governor to sign our bill because

> of other pressures brought to bear on him. But we

> have at least gotten him to hear the Lyme issues -

> unlike when we started.

>

> So there's a lot of work to do. I suspect that the

> Governor will start again next session (January) on

> his own OPMC Reform bill and we will get involved with

> that.. This is just going by what i had heard

> previously and I won't know this for sure for a few

> days.

>

> So please spread the word about the veto. Cry, scream,

> throw things. Do whatever you need to do to deal with

> this disgusting treatment we have gotten from the

> Governor.

>

> But please let's keep united. We will certainly

> ultimately win. It's just gonna take longer than we

> thought.

> Much love to all,

> Ellen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Questions and/or comments can be directed to the list owner at

> -Owner

>

>

[Guest guest]

Moderator,

Why must I read this? Why is this on the Lyme board? I am sick of

politics. Is this support group for LYME patients who are sick &

tired of being sick & tired? I want to learn how to get better.

Now I am more sick & tired from politics.

I made calls. I hope the bill passes. I don't want to be nagged

from now until it happens. I don't want to hear about the

Holocaust. Please tell me what board I can read for support only.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but one harsh email gets another.

Angie

>

> He is a Republican he must help cover-up the horrible things they

are

> doing to America and Americans despite anything else. It would

have been

> a true miracle if he had not vetoed it. Surely, he is still angry

at us

> for losing the NY world headquarters for Galxco-Wellcome because he

> could not control our doctors and us to allow fellow Republicans to

> become rich off of the dangerous LymeRix Vaccine.

>

> I am so grateful for your work and dedication and wish this

nightmare

> was over and we were not living under tyranny. Holocaust survivors

have

> been telling us online and trying to get into the corporate

controlled

> media to warn us we are doing the same wrong things for the same

wrong

> reasons as Germany in the middle 1930's and unless we can get our

fellow

> Americans blinders off there is going to be unbelievable suffering

and

> death.Their words, not mine.

>

> The handling of Lyme Disease hints that this time they won't need

> concentration camps to kill " undesirables " . They need only release

> another germ that targets certain genetic populations and then

withhold

> treatment..

>

> May God and those that love him, our fellow man, and life make

sure that

> doesn't happen.

>

> Lynn in St

>

> [ ] 7:30PM- GOVERNOR VETOES OPMC BILL

>

>

>

>

> Dear Lyme friends,

> I'm sorry to have to tell you that Governor Pataki did

> just veto the OPMC Reform bill.

>

> Thank you so much to all of you who worked so hard and

> so long on this bill. For sick people to have shown

> this kind of valor is amazing.

>

> It ain't over until we have protected our doctors. I

> will be talking to people who have been working behind

> the scenes to see what steps we can take next.

>

> When you've been this sick for as long as many of us

> have been you sort of learn to become like one of

> those Shmoo dolls that I used to have as a kid. Do

> you remember those large weighted balloons that you

> would sock and it would fall down , but no matter how

> many times you knocked it down, it would bounce up

> again.

>

> Maybe the image of the Phoenix rising from the ashes

> is more heroic, but somehow the Shmoo is more like how

> I feel now.

>

> So tonight we're down, but we will pop-up in our old

> Shmoo-like way soon enough.

>

> Anyone who still has energy to call and let the

> Governor know that he has betrayed some very sick

> people, please do call.

>

> Keep it polite, because it will have more effect that

> way - not because I am feeling particularly polite

> to him at the moment.

>

> What we have gotten in the last few years is a state

> legislature that has become sympathetic to Lyme

> patients .

>

> We could not get the Governor to sign our bill because

> of other pressures brought to bear on him. But we

> have at least gotten him to hear the Lyme issues -

> unlike when we started.

>

> So there's a lot of work to do. I suspect that the

> Governor will start again next session (January) on

> his own OPMC Reform bill and we will get involved with

> that.. This is just going by what i had heard

> previously and I won't know this for sure for a few

> days.

>

> So please spread the word about the veto. Cry, scream,

> throw things. Do whatever you need to do to deal with

> this disgusting treatment we have gotten from the

> Governor.

>

> But please let's keep united. We will certainly

> ultimately win. It's just gonna take longer than we

> thought.

> Much love to all,

> Ellen

[Guest guest]

Angie,

Sometimes part of feeling bad is venting those negative feelings. Most of

the time folks vent about how they hate being in pain, or they hate the fact

they can't find a doctor or they hate the times when they can't remember how

to drive to the grocery store. At other times, especially when a political

issue has been in the forefront, folks will vent about the negative

political results. This actually does create support because other members

can say, " I understand how you feel. "

I'm sorry you were offended by a message. Unfortunately this will happen

from time to time. There are almost 1000 members on this list and we don't

all share the same opinions on most things. When an offensive message comes

through, you're best defense against it is to delete it and ignore it. If

it really bothers you, and that's ok, then bring it to my attention,

preferably off list. I can usually explain the situation to a member's

satisfaction or explain what I am doing to correct the problem.

There are no Lyme lists that I am aware of that do not discuss politics on

some level. Unfortunately this disease has become political and we will

continue to hear of political battles from time to time.

Since you've been a member of this list for many years you should be well

aware that this list has no specific political agenda concerning the two

dominant political parties. This list has never been used to solicit votes

based upon political party, though on occasion members have posted that they

think a vote for a particular candidate may get the Lyme disease community

more support. This is certainly a legitimate part of support.

Lyme disease support is not just about emotional pick me ups. Support comes

in all forms including information and opinions (negative and positive). It

is up to each of us to use the support offered in the way we best see fit.

Not everything that comes through this list will be something we agree with,

but it may provide support to another.

And please keep in mind - I DO NOT moderate every message. Long time

members who have a reputation for posting messages that are neither hateful

or hurtful have their messages sent to the list without any interference

from me. And once a message goes to the list I cannot get it back. As I

said previously, from time to time an offensive message will get through.

Unless the message develops into a dialogue between multiple members, there

is usually no reason to doubt that I have already dealt with the situation

behind the scenes.

=)

Robynn

-Owner

[ ] Re: Governor Vetoes OPMC Bill

Moderator,

Why must I read this? Why is this on the Lyme board? I am sick of

politics. Is this support group for LYME patients who are sick &

tired of being sick & tired? I want to learn how to get better.

Now I am more sick & tired from politics.

I made calls. I hope the bill passes. I don't want to be nagged

from now until it happens. I don't want to hear about the

Holocaust. Please tell me what board I can read for support only.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but one harsh email gets another.

Angie

[Guest guest]

There's a button on your PC named 'delete' for email messages you do not care to

read.

[ ] 7:30PM- GOVERNOR VETOES OPMC BILL

>

>

>

>

> Dear Lyme friends,

> I'm sorry to have to tell you that Governor Pataki did

> just veto the OPMC Reform bill.

>

> Thank you so much to all of you who worked so hard and

> so long on this bill. For sick people to have shown

> this kind of valor is amazing.

>

> It ain't over until we have protected our doctors. I

> will be talking to people who have been working behind

> the scenes to see what steps we can take next.

>

> When you've been this sick for as long as many of us

> have been you sort of learn to become like one of

> those Shmoo dolls that I used to have as a kid. Do

> you remember those large weighted balloons that you

> would sock and it would fall down , but no matter how

> many times you knocked it down, it would bounce up

> again.

>

> Maybe the image of the Phoenix rising from the ashes

> is more heroic, but somehow the Shmoo is more like how

> I feel now.

>

> So tonight we're down, but we will pop-up in our old

> Shmoo-like way soon enough.

>

> Anyone who still has energy to call and let the

> Governor know that he has betrayed some very sick

> people, please do call.

>

> Keep it polite, because it will have more effect that

> way - not because I am feeling particularly polite

> to him at the moment.

>

> What we have gotten in the last few years is a state

> legislature that has become sympathetic to Lyme

> patients .

>

> We could not get the Governor to sign our bill because

> of other pressures brought to bear on him. But we

> have at least gotten him to hear the Lyme issues -

> unlike when we started.

>

> So there's a lot of work to do. I suspect that the

> Governor will start again next session (January) on

> his own OPMC Reform bill and we will get involved with

> that.. This is just going by what i had heard

> previously and I won't know this for sure for a few

> days.

>

> So please spread the word about the veto. Cry, scream,

> throw things. Do whatever you need to do to deal with

> this disgusting treatment we have gotten from the

> Governor.

>

> But please let's keep united. We will certainly

> ultimately win. It's just gonna take longer than we

> thought.

> Much love to all,

> Ellen

Questions and/or comments can be directed to the list owner at

-Owner

[Guest guest]

Tom, I can't know if it should be read until I read it. The

subject did not say Holocaust. I thought this was a support group

that was going to stay on topic but I was wrong. Angie

> There's a button on your PC named 'delete' for email messages you

do not care to read.

>