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RE: body temperature - probably at least two things are impacting...one is

that Bb (Lyme) messes with the brain and changes the " set points " for lots

of things....temp, sleep, heart beat, etc. Then the second thing is that

Bb causes inflammation wherever it is-including blood vessels so it's harder

for toasty warm blood to get to the places it needs to go. On many if not

most Lymies, you can tell by putting a thumb print into your palm. It

shouldn't take more that 1-2 seconds for capillary refill to happen in

" normal " people.

In my daugher's case, she was on her IV rocephin for a few short weeks and

feeling cold started changing for the better. Amazing. Elaine

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This is an old post - but this brings up something I have been

wondering about;

I have a low basal temp ( 96.8 ) thus - when I get my 'fevers' -

should I just be riding out the rise in temp ( (99 - 102. F )

without any Tylenol or Advil? In other words, by treating the

shivering, sweating, delerium and dehydration I am preventing these

little suckers from dying?

I always wondered why my body was constantly switching itself 'on

high' - thought there must have been a good reason for it.

Or maybe there is no reason at all.

Have any of you done the 'chilly' fever thing, completely cold -

without any meds? For me that feelings amounts to near death - I may

aswell be in hospital at that point because I would be too

incapacitaed to look after myself for long.

Carmen

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> > Another testimony to the low temp.... I have a fever at 97.6!

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> Hi All,

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> My temperature runs just above 97 F. This

> probably makes life much more comfortable

> for the Lyme spirochetes, since the only known

> cure, offered (I've heard) by a clinic in

> Switzerland, involves raising body temperature

> for several days. I think a doctor in the

> early 20th century received a Nobel Prize

> for curing syphilis by infecting his patients

> with malaria to induce a high temperature fever.

>

> But I always feel warm.

>

> Jack

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> I wonder if this is something common to Lyme patients? As a

child, I remember having a 98.6 normal temperature. For the past

several years, my " normal " is 97 - 97.7. If my temp is up to 98.6,

it's comparable to 100 for a so-called normal person. I've been

telling doctors this for several years, and for the most part, they

and their nurses just give me an odd look. It's scary when you seem

to know more than the doctors and nurses treating you.

>

My doctor almost refuses to take my temp anymore because he simply

believes me. He was the first to tell me that some body temps are

just higher for some - and lower for others ergo that I could have

core temp probs if I go over 99. it would feel like I have a fever

or 102 or higher.....so I guess some docs DO know :) I am so

greatful my MD is so good at pain management, and just taking my

direction.

If only there were some 'fever specialists' out there....reading

this group is very informative. I can basically steer my MD almost

anyway I want to. He just agreed I should be seeing a Lyme

specialist....( which I hope to find in Vancouver )

TY _ Carmen

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The body responds to any invader by raising temperature. But not all

creatures die from raised temps. For example, plantar warts caused

by a virus on the feet, die from freezing, not heat.

I have found that the malaria therapy success is not from fever, but

from quinine in the malaria remedy. When I take quinine 1 gram

daily, my bladder and kidney symptoms from lyme go away. Ive had

those problems since I was 17, 20 years ago, starting with the lyme

tick bite. When I stop, my incontinence, bladder infection symptoms,

and kidney pain return. Quinine is doing something to help it. Maybe

just a longer term on it? So far Ive tried 2 months straight, but

always forget days here and there. Its easy to see on the forgetful

quinine days, that the symptoms return.

Quinine is available without prescription and also by mail order.

Its an herb. Its the main ingredient of Tonic Water in the soda

section.

I used to feel cold ALL the time, sans 90 degree days. Now that I

take SALT to make up for all the salts lost during sweating, I feel

warm at night, which is quite a switch. SALT is crucial to life, and

lyme makes you salt-low.

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> > > Another testimony to the low temp.... I have a fever at 97.6!

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > My temperature runs just above 97 F. This

> > probably makes life much more comfortable

> > for the Lyme spirochetes, since the only known

> > cure, offered (I've heard) by a clinic in

> > Switzerland, involves raising body temperature

> > for several days. I think a doctor in the

> > early 20th century received a Nobel Prize

> > for curing syphilis by infecting his patients

> > with malaria to induce a high temperature fever.

> >

> > But I always feel warm.

> >

> > Jack

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Annoyingly enough, I have good thyroid function. But I would love to

TRY synthroid, to see if it would work. My mother was bitten too -

and now was thyroid AND vision problems.

But the docs wont take that into account because on Vancouver Island

a doctor over prescribed thyroid meds and lost his license.

Carmen

> > > >

> > > > Another testimony to the low temp.... I have a fever at

97.6!

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > My temperature runs just above 97 F. This

> > > probably makes life much more comfortable

> > > for the Lyme spirochetes, since the only known

> > > cure, offered (I've heard) by a clinic in

> > > Switzerland, involves raising body temperature

> > > for several days. I think a doctor in the

> > > early 20th century received a Nobel Prize

> > > for curing syphilis by infecting his patients

> > > with malaria to induce a high temperature fever.

> > >

> > > But I always feel warm.

> > >

> > > Jack

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