Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 ugh. my home nurse thinks i have it. anyone familiar? thanks! Jeni G. Flock President, The ine E. Drake Scholars Spelman College 404 870 0873 - please leave a message! )) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 > > Hi, > > I was wondering what is recommended for Clostridium Difficile. From what I have read so far, diet alone will not kill this infection. Has anybody here had this problem and if so, what did you do about it? ==>Hi a. Clostridium Difficile is a type of fungus that is a normal inhabitant of the intestinal flora just like candida. Like candida, it changes into a monster when the intestinal flora becomes imbalanced or wiped out by antibiotics and/or toxins. Killing it off doesn't work, just like it doesn't work to " kill off " candida. The immune system must become strong enough to " make " it change back to the friendly bacteria it is supposed to be in the body. The flora needs to be re-established the same as for candida, but diet and supplements alone will do that. All of the antifungals I recommend also work on Clostridium Difficile the same as they do on candida. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Yeah, like Bee said, you can't just kill off C. Diff. Many people incorrectly assume that they 'catch' things like candida or C. Diff., but this is not correct. It is a compromised immune system and altered intestinal flora that cause the difficile to get out of control. If the circumstances that created its overgrowth to begin with aren't removed, then killing it off will do no good because it will simply come back as it was before you attempted to kill it off. Many people incorrectly assume that an anti-candida program revolves around complete removal of candida from the body, but this is not correct. Candida will ALWAYS be present, it is just a matter of whether it is overgrowing or not, which primarily revolves around whether it is being significantly fed or not. Just wanted to share my thoughts. Thanks and regards, > > Hi, > I was wondering what is recommended for Clostridium Difficile. From what I > have read so far, diet alone will not kill this infection. Has anybody here > had this problem and if so, what did you do about it? > Thanks, > > a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 > > Yeah, like Bee said, you can't just kill off C. Diff. Many people > incorrectly assume that they 'catch' things like candida or C. Diff., > but this is not correct. It is a compromised immune system and altered > intestinal flora that cause the difficile to get out of control. If > the circumstances that created its overgrowth to begin with aren't > removed, then killing it off will do no good because it will simply > come back as it was before you attempted to kill it off. > > Many people incorrectly assume that an anti-candida program revolves > around complete removal of candida from the body, but this is not > correct. Candida will ALWAYS be present, it is just a matter of > whether it is overgrowing or not, which primarily revolves around > whether it is being significantly fed or not. ==>, that is correct too. If the immune system is up to par, there is no reason for the body to " make " candida or c. diff. to change in order to clean itself up. It's like my analogy of the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the poor condition of the body/immune system. The manure pile cannot be affected by killing off the flies. The condition of the body must be improved in order for the " bugs " to revert back to what they are supposed to be. In other words, the condition of the body (manure pile) is the " cause, " and the bugs are the " result " and the bugs are simply doing their job as nature intended. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 C diff is a specific bacterium (clostridium difficile) that lives in the intestinal tract and is generally benign. In some people, when antibiotics devastate their healthy gut flora, C. diff causes severe diarrhea and even colitis. It is usually diagnosed through a stool test. Sounds like a test might be a good idea for you. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/c-difficile/DS00736 Caughman (New York) Re: [ ] stomach problems I have a question about a discussion a couple of weeks ago. Several people mentioned a stomach problem created by taking antibiotics - c diff. What is c diff, and how did you get it diagnosed? A poop test? What bacteria are they looking for? I was taking clarithromyacin and have been having really bad indigestion, so that I have to take Zantac all the time, even though I have been off of it now for 2 weeks. Thank you, Cathleen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I am being treated by an Integrative Medicine LLMD and he stressed the importance of taking probiotics along with the antibiotics. I was on three high dose abx and never had any intestinal problems whatsoever from any of them, taking probiotics with them, religiously. yvonne _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Caughman Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 6:32 AM Subject: RE: [ ] C. Diff. C diff is a specific bacterium (clostridium difficile) that lives in the intestinal tract and is generally benign. In some people, when antibiotics devastate their healthy gut flora, C. diff causes severe diarrhea and even colitis. It is usually diagnosed through a stool test. Sounds like a test might be a good idea for you. http://www.mayoclin <http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/c-difficile/DS00736> ic.com/health/c-difficile/DS00736 Caughman (New York) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Let me just add a " me, too " here. Probiotics are critical to keeping the gut flora happy. This, in turn, will prevent not only c. diff and organ damage, but also holds off additional immune problems due to leaky gut syndrome. And it has to be the kind that live in the refrigerator: the ones you buy off the shelf aren't nearly as effective. Whole Foods has a nice selection, including one that's specifically for c.diff. I take 3-5 capsules a day (more if my tummy gets queasy); plus a little pot of Activia or other probiotic yogurt for breakfast every morning. Sara On Dec 6, 2008, at 11:00 AM, creistyt wrote: > I am being treated by an Integrative Medicine LLMD and he stressed the > importance of taking probiotics along with the antibiotics. I was > on three > high dose abx and never had any intestinal problems whatsoever from > any of > them, taking probiotics with them, religiously. > > yvonne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Sara, Do you have the name of the one at Whole Foods that is for c diff? Thank you, Cathleen Sara wrote: > > Let me just add a " me, too " here. Probiotics are critical to keeping > the gut flora happy. This, in turn, will prevent not only c. diff and > organ damage, but also holds off additional immune problems due to > leaky gut syndrome. > > And it has to be the kind that live in the refrigerator: the ones you > buy off the shelf aren't nearly as effective. Whole Foods has a nice > selection, including one that's specifically for c.diff. > > I take 3-5 capsules a day (more if my tummy gets queasy); plus a > little pot of Activia or other probiotic yogurt for breakfast every > morning. > > Sara > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 11:00 AM, creistyt wrote: > > > I am being treated by an Integrative Medicine LLMD and he stressed the > > importance of taking probiotics along with the antibiotics. I was > > on three > > high dose abx and never had any intestinal problems whatsoever from > > any of > > them, taking probiotics with them, religiously. > > > > yvonne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Hi Sara - Can you please provide more information on the probiotic capsules that you take? I consume Activia and DanActiv every day, despite that I now have candida in my esophagus and stomach, thanks to the abx. I'm on meds to clear up the candida, but I would like to find more probiotics to take to avoid this as I continue forward. Thank you! Anne > > > I am being treated by an Integrative Medicine LLMD and he stressed the > > importance of taking probiotics along with the antibiotics. I was > > on three > > high dose abx and never had any intestinal problems whatsoever from > > any of > > them, taking probiotics with them, religiously. > > > > yvonne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Gang, I'm pretty sure the stuff I find in my Whole Paycheck here in Canada is different than what's found in other regions of North America. But any Whole Foods (or other organic grocery) will have a refrigerator case in the supplements section with a shelf full of probiotics. I was delighted to notice that at least a couple of those in my local store were specific for C.diff -- said so right on the label in big black letters. I bought one general probiotic from that shelf, and also the specific C.Diff formula. I take one of each morning and night, or whenever my tummy's bothered. All my life, I've always gotten FIERCE candida whenever I take abx. My LLMD was smart about this: he put me on two months of antifungals (one month each nystatin, then diflucan) to clear out any existing candida before starting the Biaxin. I'm astonished at how small the yeast problems have been, and suspect that keeping up with the probiotics has had a lot to do with the fact the beasties don't seem to be coming back. Anne, if you're getting candida, is your LLMD willing to give you 2-4 weeks of nystatin to clear it? Mine has already given me a back-up prescription to have on hand in case I have a candida resurgence. So far as I know, there's no reason you can't take these antifungals alongside antibiotics. Sara On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:37 AM, anniepmm wrote: > Hi Sara - > > Can you please provide more information on the probiotic capsules > that you take? I consume Activia and DanActiv every day, despite that > I now have candida in my esophagus and stomach, thanks to the abx. > I'm on meds to clear up the candida, but I would like to find more > probiotics to take to avoid this as I continue forward. > > Thank you! > > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 All those yogurts have too much sugar in them because of the milk............use probioitcs from the health food store. I use Florajen now.......used Primadophalus for years, but the new one seems t o work better, I also only use refrigerated ones. hugs, Connnie, MI [ ] Re: C. Diff. > Hi Sara - > > Can you please provide more information on the probiotic capsules > that you take? I consume Activia and DanActiv every day, despite that > I now have candida in my esophagus and stomach, thanks to the abx. > I'm on meds to clear up the candida, but I would like to find more > probiotics to take to avoid this as I continue forward. > > Thank you! > > Anne > > >> >> > I am being treated by an Integrative Medicine LLMD and he > stressed the >> > importance of taking probiotics along with the antibiotics. I > was >> > on three >> > high dose abx and never had any intestinal problems whatsoever > from >> > any of >> > them, taking probiotics with them, religiously. >> > >> > yvonne >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > The book, Cure Unknown: Inside the Lyme Epidemic by Pamela Weintraub is > now > available for purchase. Please visit the official website at > http://cureunknown.com/index.html for more information. > > For free up to date information about Lyme disease and the known > co-infections delivered to your email address see: > Robynns_Lyme_List/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Another probiotic of sorts that is good with antibiotics is Florastor (saccharomyces boulardii lyo). This is not precisely the same as most probiotics. It is a helpful yeast that protects the gut and helps the system keep the bad yeast down. Because it is a yeast and not a probiotic that is killed by antibiotics you can take it at the exact same time as the antibiotics. My son has been on antibiotics for 2 1/2 years and despite my constant nagging, (he is 20 and away at college), he does not take probiotics. He has, however, taken the Florastor twice a day with his antibiotics and so far, so good. I buy my Florastor on line, 4 bottles at a time, from www.OrganicPharmacy.org, but most naturopathic physicians will have it also. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Thanks for the additional information, Sara. I am on Fluconazole (generic Diflucan) for two weeks to try and clear up the candida. My gastro discovered it when I had an upper endoscopy a few weeks back and gave me the prescription. Hopefully that with additional probiotics will do the trick for me. Thanks again! Anne > > > Hi Sara - > > > > Can you please provide more information on the probiotic capsules > > that you take? I consume Activia and DanActiv every day, despite that > > I now have candida in my esophagus and stomach, thanks to the abx. > > I'm on meds to clear up the candida, but I would like to find more > > probiotics to take to avoid this as I continue forward. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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