Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 I am in a lot of pain and I have been off IV Ceftriaxone. My doctor wants me to put off going on meds because she wants me to have my gallbladder removed. She claims a lot of my syptoms are related to my gallbladder. Am I going to have to let her operate on me so I can get treatment for Late Lyme. CNS is not far behind. Been under a lot of stress maybe I'll be better. Maybe just a hyrexhimer. Boy am I scared. I live alone and am totally isolated. Sorry for this scarry cry but I am alone. Isolated and alone. Lane <hollywood_dreams67@...> wrote: Hello Everyone: Finally got rid of email again Too much advertizements> I love entering contest but they end up sending my email everywhere . I cant send out email. I go to my primary care giver. She needs to retest me before she decides if I have thyroid problem/ She didn't tell me much about it. But I notice I am almost comotose when my I have my period. More headacks and hurting from head to toe. I heard this thyroid thing is hormonal too. So any one eles experience this or know what it means. Does the thyroid also regulate sleep. I really feel like I am going into or have just come out of a comma Anyone have thoughts on this. and it reminds of also of the feeling like I am dying But I have had that feeling for so many years (And I am still sucking air LOL) I am not getting any treatment after having a baby and lack of caring doctor and nurse midwifes with this disease . dont want any more babies. And Dont trust doctors to do any operations so wont get tubes tided. Birth control needs to work and antibotics prevent that. Still in need of LD as I cannot travel far so sick and caring for children and no one helping with chores. So I am going to try Morrie Porvich Show With my mind the way it is may not get to it> Tryed to do Operah Winfry couldn't. Someone else try Morrie Ty Holly. Darren D Landon <dclando1@...> wrote: In 1998 I was diagnosed with Hoshimoto's thyroiditist....It was most of the time very low..... then it leveled out on its own and didn't have any problems that I know of (tests I know aren't always right...lol...but when are they?) and I was taken of medication and had it tested frequently. In April I got Pneumonia and was in the hospital for that...that was when I was in Pennsylvania...I miss it in a lot of ways...they found the hyperthyroid there before I moved to Idaho. I am on antibiotics frequently for infections such as urine, sinus, eye infections, bronchitis, pneumonia....But through all of that I have still felt better than I have in a long time...strange huh... The test they did for Graves come back negative...but this doctor knows it too isn't always accurate...he diagnosed me with it because of excessive dry skin, pin point rashes, sand feeling in my eyes and some others...LOL...but that could also be symptoms for Lyme... I am so sorry I have been so gone for so long..I didn't have access to the Internet much...but now we have a place of our own. We moved in with Darren's parents because I seemed to be getting worse...but I think the different environment is helping, a lot less humidity. I love Idaho and this will always be my real home but I miss it back east.... I hope things are going well for everyone...I know that is a big hope and wish..... Cyntha, Myesha, Celeste, Rigby, Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Hello, MY best friend's doc wanted her gallbladder... she decided to do the cleanse first... she was able to get rid of most of her stones and is doing great now... the cleanse was nixed by her doc but, she did it anyway and so I tried it... I was shocked... I did the organic applecider with epsom salt,then drank the olive oil and fresh sqeezed grapefruit... I was up at 4 am stones were coming out like crazy... it was shocking... thanks, angela You can look up the Dr.Hulde cleanse online > In 1998 I was diagnosed with Hoshimoto's thyroiditist....It was most of > the time very low..... then it leveled out on its own and didn't have any > problems that I know of (tests I know aren't always right...lol...but > when are they?) and I was taken of medication and had it tested > frequently. In April I got Pneumonia and was in the hospital for > that...that was when I was in Pennsylvania...I miss it in a lot of > ways...they found the hyperthyroid there before I moved to Idaho. I am > on antibiotics frequently for infections such as urine, sinus, eye > infections, bronchitis, pneumonia....But through all of that I have still > felt better than I have in a long time...strange huh... > > The test they did for Graves come back negative...but this doctor knows > it too isn't always accurate...he diagnosed me with it because of > excessive dry skin, pin point rashes, sand feeling in my eyes and some > others...LOL...but that could also be symptoms for Lyme... > > I am so sorry I have been so gone for so long..I didn't have access to > the Internet much...but now we have a place of our own. We moved in with > Darren's parents because I seemed to be getting worse...but I think the > different environment is helping, a lot less humidity. I love Idaho and > this will always be my real home but I miss it back east.... > > I hope things are going well for everyone...I know that is a big hope and > wish..... > > Cyntha, Myesha, Celeste, > Rigby, Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 GALLBLADDER NEWS..... Please, please, please..... before considering going under the knife.... consider what is going on. When one does IV abx and does not take precaution by cleansing the liver/biliary tree/gallbladder, sludge is going to accumulate and you can experience a gallbladder atttack. The gallbladder is the storage area for bile and the liver/bile ducts and gallbladder together form the system that helps your body digest fats. It is logical then that if you remove the gallbladder, you are only treating part of the problem. Gallbladder disease is a digestion problem that can be fixed NATURALLY. Rx drugs, sedentary lifestyle and poor diet can contribute. The bile that is produced in the liver and flowing thru the bile ducts and gallbladder becomes too thick, the pathways can be obstructed, small bile crystals, gravel or stones can gather along the ducts and linings and the entire system can be clogged. One can become nauseous, feel sick, have abdominal pain. If one eats a fatty meal, these symptoms will only intensify. If one has their gallbladder removed, one can experience relief BUT you have not solved the underlying problem. There is a product by Standard Process - <A HREF= " www.standardprocess.com " >www.standardprocess.com</A> called AF Betafood, ALL NATURAL, made from beet juice (which contains betaine) and is one of the best cleansers of bile; thins it and keeps it flowing. You can also drink beet juice (can be mixed with tomato juice for taste) per meal and it has been shown to stop gallbladder attacks in 48 hrs. Drink PLENTY of water and take 2-3 AF Betafood per meal. Exercise, plenty of water, better diet, ALL contribute to better health. It is a known fact that lymies have a hard time digesting fats!!! That is where enzymes come in and the particular enzyme is called lipase. Ask your local health food store or I have these as well. You can only get Standard Process products from a doctor (of course I have them but PLEASE don't anyone write me a nasty e-mail about me soliciting products!) This is an alternative idea to surgery. Remember, surgeons sell surgery and most allopathic drs. (medical) 'prescribe' Rx, surgery, because they don't understand nutrition. When one feeds the body what it needs, it works beautifully. Remember, I have survived ALS-like, late-stage lyme disease, was paralyzed from the neck down, had EVERY symptom except testicular pain. Five out of 6 of my kids were chronic and husband nearly died from lyme. We are doing great. This is what lead me to a career in Natural Health Care. It is YOUR health and each person should take the responsibility of their decisions about what to do with their health. Research and make good, sound decisions. sue massie, CNHP Nature's Garden of Health 723 933-4011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 I'm in the same boat Millie! Hang in there! My gallbladder must come out also. I sure hope it helps with the pain too! My e-mail is uaw_union_girl@... Please keep in touch. Carol aka dizz Re: [ ] Need IV meds. Doc wants my gallbladder. Help????????//// I am in a lot of pain and I have been off IV Ceftriaxone. My doctor wants me to put off going on meds because she wants me to have my gallbladder removed. She claims a lot of my syptoms are related to my gallbladder. Am I going to have to let her operate on me so I can get treatment for Late Lyme. CNS is not far behind. Been under a lot of stress maybe I'll be better. Maybe just a hyrexhimer. Boy am I scared. I live alone and am totally isolated. Sorry for this scarry cry but I am alone. Isolated and alone. Lane <hollywood_dreams67@...> wrote: Hello Everyone: Finally got rid of email again Too much advertizements> I love entering contest but they end up sending my email everywhere . I cant send out email. I go to my primary care giver. She needs to retest me before she decides if I have thyroid problem/ She didn't tell me much about it. But I notice I am almost comotose when my I have my period. More headacks and hurting from head to toe. I heard this thyroid thing is hormonal too. So any one eles experience this or know what it means. Does the thyroid also regulate sleep. I really feel like I am going into or have just come out of a comma Anyone have thoughts on this. and it reminds of also of the feeling like I am dying But I have had that feeling for so many years (And I am still sucking air LOL) I am not getting any treatment after having a baby and lack of caring doctor and nurse midwifes with this disease . dont want any more babies. And Dont trust doctors to do any operations so wont get tubes tided. Birth control needs to work and antibotics prevent that. Still in need of LD as I cannot travel far so sick and caring for children and no one helping with chores. So I am going to try Morrie Porvich Show With my mind the way it is may not get to it> Tryed to do Operah Winfry couldn't. Someone else try Morrie Ty Holly. Darren D Landon <dclando1@...> wrote: In 1998 I was diagnosed with Hoshimoto's thyroiditist....It was most of the time very low..... then it leveled out on its own and didn't have any problems that I know of (tests I know aren't always right...lol...but when are they?) and I was taken of medication and had it tested frequently. In April I got Pneumonia and was in the hospital for that...that was when I was in Pennsylvania...I miss it in a lot of ways...they found the hyperthyroid there before I moved to Idaho. I am on antibiotics frequently for infections such as urine, sinus, eye infections, bronchitis, pneumonia....But through all of that I have still felt better than I have in a long time...strange huh... The test they did for Graves come back negative...but this doctor knows it too isn't always accurate...he diagnosed me with it because of excessive dry skin, pin point rashes, sand feeling in my eyes and some others...LOL...but that could also be symptoms for Lyme... I am so sorry I have been so gone for so long..I didn't have access to the Internet much...but now we have a place of our own. We moved in with Darren's parents because I seemed to be getting worse...but I think the different environment is helping, a lot less humidity. I love Idaho and this will always be my real home but I miss it back east.... I hope things are going well for everyone...I know that is a big hope and wish..... Cyntha, Myesha, Celeste, Rigby, Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hello Carol Kerr I have no pain I could possible attribute to my gallbladder please let me know what you are experiencing. Thanks Millie. Carol Kerr <CarolKerr@...> wrote: I'm in the same boat Millie! Hang in there! My gallbladder must come out also. I sure hope it helps with the pain too! My e-mail is uaw_union_girl@... Please keep in touch. Carol aka dizz Re: [ ] Need IV meds. Doc wants my gallbladder. Help????????//// I am in a lot of pain and I have been off IV Ceftriaxone. My doctor wants me to put off going on meds because she wants me to have my gallbladder removed. She claims a lot of my syptoms are related to my gallbladder. Am I going to have to let her operate on me so I can get treatment for Late Lyme. CNS is not far behind. Been under a lot of stress maybe I'll be better. Maybe just a hyrexhimer. Boy am I scared. I live alone and am totally isolated. Sorry for this scarry cry but I am alone. Isolated and alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 My ribcage under my right breast hurts like the devil 80% of the day. I do milk thistle and stuff, but my gallbladder hurt before I started long before I started abx treatment for lyme. When it's really out of control it hurts up into my shoulder and right arm. Lucky you, no pain! Take care, carol Re: [ ] Need IV meds. Doc wants my gallbladder. Help????????//// I am in a lot of pain and I have been off IV Ceftriaxone. My doctor wants me to put off going on meds because she wants me to have my gallbladder removed. She claims a lot of my syptoms are related to my gallbladder. Am I going to have to let her operate on me so I can get treatment for Late Lyme. CNS is not far behind. Been under a lot of stress maybe I'll be better. Maybe just a hyrexhimer. Boy am I scared. I live alone and am totally isolated. Sorry for this scarry cry but I am alone. Isolated and alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Sue: What a GREAT response you have provided!!! I can testify from experience that a large part of my continued recovery from Lyme/Ehlicheosis/Babesia is exactly a good diet, exercise and all natural products giving my body the optimum conditions to do what it was designed to do to. The inner cleansing along with the outer activity are essential. It all works together along with the mind and Spirit. Bravo!! for a great piece of information. Thank you: -Glen Wolfsen: burg, New Jersey. At 08:33 AM 12/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >GALLBLADDER NEWS..... >Please, please, please..... before considering going under the knife.... >consider what is going on. >When one does IV abx and does not take precaution by cleansing the >liver/biliary tree/gallbladder, sludge is going to accumulate and you can >experience a >gallbladder atttack. >The gallbladder is the storage area for bile and the liver/bile ducts and >gallbladder together form the system that helps your body digest fats. It is >logical then that if you remove the gallbladder, you are only treating >part of the >problem. Gallbladder disease is a digestion problem that can be fixed >NATURALLY. Rx drugs, sedentary lifestyle and poor diet can contribute. The >bile that >is produced in the liver and flowing thru the bile ducts and gallbladder >becomes too thick, the pathways can be obstructed, small bile crystals, >gravel or >stones can gather along the ducts and linings and the entire system can be >clogged. One can become nauseous, feel sick, have abdominal pain. If one >eats a >fatty meal, these symptoms will only intensify. If one has their gallbladder >removed, one can experience relief BUT you have not solved the underlying >problem. >There is a product by Standard Process - <A >HREF= " www.standardprocess.com " >www.standardprocess.com</A> called AF >Betafood, ALL NATURAL, made from beet juice (which contains betaine) and is >one of the best cleansers of bile; thins it and keeps it flowing. You can >also >drink beet juice (can be mixed with tomato juice for taste) per meal and it >has been shown to stop gallbladder attacks in 48 hrs. Drink PLENTY of >water and >take 2-3 AF Betafood per meal. >Exercise, plenty of water, better diet, ALL contribute to better health. It >is a known fact that lymies have a hard time digesting fats!!! That is where >enzymes come in and the particular enzyme is called lipase. Ask your local >health food store or I have these as well. >You can only get Standard Process products from a doctor (of course I have >them but PLEASE don't anyone write me a nasty e-mail about me soliciting >products!) > >This is an alternative idea to surgery. Remember, surgeons sell surgery and >most allopathic drs. (medical) 'prescribe' Rx, surgery, because they don't >understand nutrition. When one feeds the body what it needs, it works >beautifully. > >Remember, I have survived ALS-like, late-stage lyme disease, was paralyzed >from the neck down, had EVERY symptom except testicular pain. Five out of >6 of >my kids were chronic and husband nearly died from lyme. We are doing great. >This is what lead me to a career in Natural Health Care. > >It is YOUR health and each person should take the responsibility of their >decisions about what to do with their health. Research and make good, sound >decisions. > >sue massie, CNHP >Nature's Garden of Health >723 933-4011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Boy that sounds rough. Thanks for writing back. Carol Kerr <CarolKerr@...> wrote:My ribcage under my right breast hurts like the devil 80% of the day. I do milk thistle and stuff, but my gallbladder hurt before I started long before I started abx treatment for lyme. When it's really out of control it hurts up into my shoulder and right arm. Lucky you, no pain! Take care, carol Re: [ ] Need IV meds. Doc wants my gallbladder. Help????????//// Hello Carol Kerr I have no pain I could possible attribute to my gallbladder please let me know what you are experiencing. Thanks Millie. Carol Kerr <CarolKerr@...> wrote: I'm in the same boat Millie! Hang in there! My gallbladder must come out also. I sure hope it helps with the pain too! My e-mail is uaw_union_girl@... Please keep in touch. Carol aka dizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Thanks for your reply. I have absolutely non of the symptoms you describe. Thank you my MD never shared symptoms with me. I firmly believe she is going for the money it can generate here at the end of the year. She says she wants me to have it removed before she wil put me back on IV/ I need the IV now. I think. This is my first bout with IV meds. Dont know when to insist its time to go back on, DR Nick is the Doctor who diagnosed my lyme. 12 years after initial bite. Glen Wolfsen <wolfsen@...> wrote: Sue: What a GREAT response you have provided!!! I can testify from experience that a large part of my continued recovery from Lyme/Ehlicheosis/Babesia is exactly a good diet, exercise and all natural products giving my body the optimum conditions to do what it was designed to do to. The inner cleansing along with the outer activity are essential. It all works together along with the mind and Spirit. Bravo!! for a great piece of information. Thank you: -Glen Wolfsen: burg, New Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Thanks for heads up. Ssadlermas@... wrote:GALLBLADDER NEWS..... Please, please, please..... before considering going under the knife.... consider what is going on. When one does IV abx and does not take precaution by cleansing the liver/biliary tree/gallbladder, sludge is going to accumulate and you can experience a gallbladder atttack. The gallbladder is the storage area for bile and the liver/bile ducts and gallbladder together form the system that helps your body digest fats. It is logical then that if you remove the gallbladder, you are only treating part of the problem. Gallbladder disease is a digestion problem that can be fixed NATURALLY. Rx drugs, sedentary lifestyle and poor diet can contribute. The bile that is produced in the liver and flowing thru the bile ducts and gallbladder becomes too thick, the pathways can be obstructed, small bile crystals, gravel or stones can gather along the ducts and linings and the entire system can be clogged. One can become nauseous, feel sick, have abdominal pain. If one eats a fatty meal, these symptoms will only intensify. If one has their gallbladder removed, one can experience relief BUT you have not solved the underlying problem. There is a product by Standard Process - <A HREF= " www.standardprocess.com " >www.standardprocess.com</A> called AF Betafood, ALL NATURAL, made from beet juice (which contains betaine) and is one of the best cleansers of bile; thins it and keeps it flowing. You can also drink beet juice (can be mixed with tomato juice for taste) per meal and it has been shown to stop gallbladder attacks in 48 hrs. Drink PLENTY of water and take 2-3 AF Betafood per meal. Exercise, plenty of water, better diet, ALL contribute to better health. It is a known fact that lymies have a hard time digesting fats!!! That is where enzymes come in and the particular enzyme is called lipase. Ask your local health food store or I have these as well. You can only get Standard Process products from a doctor (of course I have them but PLEASE don't anyone write me a nasty e-mail about me soliciting products!) This is an alternative idea to surgery. Remember, surgeons sell surgery and most allopathic drs. (medical) 'prescribe' Rx, surgery, because they don't understand nutrition. When one feeds the body what it needs, it works beautifully. Remember, I have survived ALS-like, late-stage lyme disease, was paralyzed from the neck down, had EVERY symptom except testicular pain. Five out of 6 of my kids were chronic and husband nearly died from lyme. We are doing great. This is what lead me to a career in Natural Health Care. It is YOUR health and each person should take the responsibility of their decisions about what to do with their health. Research and make good, sound decisions. sue massie, CNHP Nature's Garden of Health 723 933-4011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 In a message dated 12/6/2003 11:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, suelymer97@... writes: > Sue Massie.....we are putting together links and other vital info for our > state's DOH site. They asked for help getting the LD info on there. Do you > have a site that with your approval could be listed? > > Thanks........SueV. > Just saw this..... Haven't been online in a few days. No, I don't have a website per se. I AM in the process of posting alot of info on a NEW lyme website that is not only me but many, many lyme-literate drs, researchers, etc. I will post the name shortly. Please contact me personally if I can help in any way. suemassie45@... or 732 933-4011, Nature's Garden of Health. Thank you sue massie, CNHP Nature's Garden of Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 SueV...what state are you located?? Hugs, Sandy Re: [ ] Need IV meds. Doc wants my gallbladder. Help????????//// In a message dated 12/6/2003 11:17:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, suelymer97@... writes: > Sue Massie.....we are putting together links and other vital info for our > state's DOH site. They asked for help getting the LD info on there. Do you > have a site that with your approval could be listed? > > Thanks........SueV. > Just saw this..... Haven't been online in a few days. No, I don't have a website per se. I AM in the process of posting alot of info on a NEW lyme website that is not only me but many, many lyme-literate drs, researchers, etc. I will post the name shortly. Please contact me personally if I can help in any way. suemassie45@... or 732 933-4011, Nature's Garden of Health. Thank you sue massie, CNHP Nature's Garden of Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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