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, I think of us are still in the cave with you. Desperate people do

desperate things but Arsenic... Let us know if anyone goes into remission while

keeping in mind that Lyme waxes and wanes without treatment. Rita

[ ] about.com U.K

Okay,

Now I just have one more thing to share... I was told to check out

the about.com thyroid forum for the United Kingdom...about Borrelia..

so anyway there is a few people who have finally come to the

conclusion maybe instead of Hypothyroidism( meds never worked on)

weight gain(even while dieting and exercising ) complete fatigue,

muscle aches maybe it is not just the phantom fibromyalgia(hey go

take a paxil and don't call me in the morning) Hey!! Maybe we have

Lyme... well the doc they are all seeing is treating it with

Arsenic... has anyone heard of this...not in the doses you hear about

when Bill Curtis is telling us of a Cold case file.... but, none the

less arsenic...The doc believes you just have to cleanse the

bloodstream or something like that... I am waiting for updates or at

least more of an explanation from my new lymie pals in the U.K... I

can't believe it. Oh, and his test for lyme is done with a few drops

of blood on a little glass slide...

Of course this is probably something everyone else has already heard

of and I am just now coming out of cave...

Thanks,

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On Monday, September 08, 2003 3:56 AM [GMT+1=CET],

aurora22565 <ANGELABUCHANAN921@...> sprinkled letters onto the

page, saying:

>

> Okay,

> Now I just have one more thing to share... I was told to check out

> the about.com thyroid forum for the United Kingdom...about Borrelia..

> so anyway there is a few people who have finally come to the

> conclusion maybe instead of Hypothyroidism( meds never worked on)

> weight gain(even while dieting and exercising ) complete fatigue,

> muscle aches maybe it is not just the phantom fibromyalgia(hey go

> take a paxil and don't call me in the morning) Hey!! Maybe we have

> Lyme... well the doc they are all seeing is treating it with

> Arsenic... has anyone heard of this...not in the doses you hear about

> when Bill Curtis is telling us of a Cold case file.... but, none the

> less arsenic...The doc believes you just have to cleanse the

> bloodstream or something like that... I am waiting for updates or at

> least more of an explanation from my new lymie pals in the U.K... I

> can't believe it. Oh, and his test for lyme is done with a few drops

> of blood on a little glass slide...

> Of course this is probably something everyone else has already heard

> of and I am just now coming out of cave...

> Thanks,

>

Hi,

apologies if you already received this. I could have sworn it was in my

Inbox - and then it wasn't...! My memory gets worse daily. Maybe I did

something wrong :) Seriously, memory tricks like this are a daily occurrence

and frustrating to say the least. You should see the notes I have to write

throughout the day so that I know where I am! I'm peering through most of

them now just to see the monitor...

A quick introduction: my name is Kezzi (the kid'z nickname for me), I'm

male, married, 45, living in the UK Lake District. I have had a progressive

axonal neuropathy since 1976 and was supected of having LD then. It probably

did me no favours living in the UK at that time and after being subjected to

various diagnoses, many of them autoimmune, I was labelled as acute motor

and sensory axonal neuropathy, probably the CIDP variant of Guillain-Barré

syndrome. Thta's about up-to-date without all the crap in between '76 and

'03...

, it sounds like you've been listening to my mom, Sheila T., on the

ABThyroid group!!!! She has Hashimoto's and I have just been dxed with a

Borrelia infection. Not certain which yet. I was suspected of Hypothyroidism

due to symptomatic relevances in recent months and have had a progressive

axonal neuropathy for 27 years. Lyme was suspected at first but I have been

treated symptomatically as a Guillain-Barré patient until recently when I

had the Bradford microscopy in Bolton, UK, confirming the Borreliosis.

I am to be treated with a ten day course of arsenic injections (self

administered unless my squeamish wife can stand looking at my butt).

Apparently painful but have been assured they will be mixed with lidnocaine

(sp.) to lessen the blow - then a blockbuster of antibiotics and then see

how things go from there. Things have been getting desperate as I'm 45 have

already had a serious heart attack and lost my short-term memory - possibly

due to Borrelia.

Blessings,

Kezzi. . . Cumbria, UK.

http://gbs.ukweb.nu/

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Dear ,

Good that sunlight may be penetrating all our caves at last. The

arsenic you speak of is a long tried and trusted remedy for bacterial

infections. Long before they had antibiotics (late 1930s) arsenic

was one of the few things there was. Actually its a compound of

arsenic or technically an arsenical. Potassium arsenide being one of

the more common. The man doing lots of work on arsenic and LYme or

Staph is Walter Tarrello - he's published lots and a search on Google

should come up with some good stuff.

Both Walter and his wife (both vets) became ill with ME (what we call

CFIDS in the UK) or an ME like illness. He monitored his illness

under a microscope over the months and years and eventually

discovered Micrococci type organisms - tons of them. Probably in his

case Staphylococcus of some sort. He was used, in his practice to

treating animals with Arsenicals (arsenic compounds) for Animal

Chronic Fatige syndome and he and his wife took a ten day course of

injections. They were both cured pretty quickly.

Arsenicals in the right doses are really very safe. Sure arsenic is a

poison but then so is pepper. Its all about quantity. All my

current info is that after about 6 months of treatment the body

starts to store the arsenic and problems would occur. But 2 weeks of

treatment is a level of toxicity that is really very fine.

I'm probably about to try the arsenicals in the next month or so. My

doctor diagnosed Lyme on the basis of classic symptoms and also a few

drops of blood on a slide under a microscope. Blood is very alive, a

veritable living zoo. When you put the blood on the slide and leave

it a few hours, all the micro-organisms will increase and grow and

come out of hiding. Then under the right magnification and lighting

(dark field microscopy) it is possible to see what's really living in

there. My doc actually saw the little spirochetes swimming around

and then sent me a CD-ROM of what he had found in me and other

patients.

Just mind blowing. Hope some of this helps. Please post any

questions you might have and I'll do my best. I am absolutely no

authority or medical expert but this stuff - arsenicals and LYme plus

diagnosis via microscope slide - is what I've been learning about

recently.

Big smiles to everyone,

Nuala (Oxford, England)

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