Re: Fast Heart Rate Etiology

[Guest guest]

Robin,

Sometimes it is from the vagus nerve somehow being out of synch for some

reason (Lyme disease , other infections). It is in a way like an engine

misfiring. Of course there are many other etiologies.

Have you seen a cardiologist, had an echocardiogram or tilt table test?

Martha A.

[Guest guest]

Dear Robin W.

I read your post about the fast heart rate. I have experienced that too, but

more when I had been less active from not feeling well from the ongoing

Lyme/EBV fatigue and joint pain. I was told by a cardiologist that the fast

heart rate comes from being out of shape. When we just sit around and don't

exercise regularly, (i.e., walking at least 30 minutes a day or doing an

aerobics tape or class 3X a week), we are not getting the cardiac excercise

that we need. As we exercise more, the heart becomes more conditioned,

thereby lowering your heartrate. Now that I am feeling better, I have been

successful in lowering my heartrate by striving to be more active. I too got

a clean bill of health from the cardiologist even with the fast heart rate in

the midst of the Lyme, with the lecture of " Your fast heartrate is coming

from poor conditioning, so lose weight and exercise more. " I walked out

frustrated and insulted, even though I knew he was absolutely right. He just

lacked tact and a bedside manner. Sadly enough, he passed away last year

from Cancer.

I am so happy that now I have found the herbal supplements that give me the

energy to exercise regularly.

Hope this info will relieve some worry.

Sue Rauch

[Guest guest]

I don't know exactly why...but that is my resting heart rate....is that

wonderful....I wish I could answer your questions...I bet they flip when I

do my sleeping test in march...good luck.

Cyntha Landon in Lititz, PA

[ ] Fast Heart Rate Etiology

> I know this issue has been discussed alot and I have read some posts

> about fast heart rate and am being troubled by that greatly as I

> write (HR 105 just sitting), with chest pain, SOB, etc. I was just

> wondering if anyone has ever heard a good explananation of why this

> happens. I know it is from Lyme but what exactly causes it? Is it due

> to heart damage?, the dead spirochaetes getting clogged in there?

> what?

>

> I've been to the ER 2-3 times because of it and then had a treadmill

> stress test with echodardiogram a couple years ago and everything

> was ....drum roll, yep, fine!

>

> Robin W. in California

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robin-

From what I understand, *husband had the rapid heart MANY times, 240

beats/min resting!!!!* the spirochetes get into the sinoatrial node (located

in the upper part of the right atrium) which is where your natural pacemaker

is located.

This has proved to us time and time again that when is treated for lyme and

babesia, this problem COMPLETELY disappears!!! The problem is, he does not

stay on treatment.

I can get more technical if you would like....we saw many cardiologists,

including one at Yale Univ. whom specializes in lyme and the heart.

sue in nj

sue massie

[Guest guest]

I did see a cardiologist and had treadmill with echocardiogram at the smae

time, which were fine but no tilt table test. What would the tilt table show

or not show?

Robin

>From: RMAgricola@...

>Robin,

>

>Sometimes it is from the vagus nerve somehow being out of synch for some

>reason (Lyme disease , other infections). It is in a way like an engine

>misfiring. Of course there are many other etiologies.

>

>Have you seen a cardiologist, had an echocardiogram or tilt table test?

>

>Martha A.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a sporadically fast heart rate for a while. It would suddenly

jump to 135 when I was just sitting around or worse, sleeping. I used

to wear a heart rate watch just to see how it fluctuated. Eventually,

the doctors found a small tumor on my adrenal gland and removed the

gland. The heart rate problems stopped. They did not correlate the

adrenal gland tumor with heart rate, but because the problem ceased,

they figured it was related.

I wonder now if the Lyme bacteria worked its way into the adrenal

gland. Does anyone know if infiltration into organs leads to small

fibrous tumors? Apparently the tissue around my organs is also quite

fibrous, according to the surgeon, which made it difficult to dissect

through.

Lilli

> I don't know exactly why...but that is my resting heart rate....is

that

> wonderful....I wish I could answer your questions...I bet they flip

when I

> do my sleeping test in march...good luck.

>

> Cyntha Landon in Lititz, PA

[Guest guest]

Yes, please get as technical as possible. I'm a biologist and thrive on such

stuff which is why I think I might feel better, more calm, when this is

happening, if I know why it is happening in detail. Wow-240 bpm!! If you

don't want to post it all could you email me privately. Thanks, Robin

>From: Ssadlermas@...

>Reply-

>dclandon@...,

>Subject: Re: [ ] Fast Heart Rate Etiology

>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:19:59 EST

>

>Robin-

>From what I understand, *husband had the rapid heart MANY times, 240

>beats/min resting!!!!* the spirochetes get into the sinoatrial node

>(located

>in the upper part of the right atrium) which is where your natural

>pacemaker

>is located.

>This has proved to us time and time again that when is treated for lyme and

>babesia, this problem COMPLETELY disappears!!! The problem is, he does not

>stay on treatment.

>I can get more technical if you would like....we saw many cardiologists,

>including one at Yale Univ. whom specializes in lyme and the heart.

>

>sue in nj

>sue massie

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[Guest guest]

My first Lyme Problem was cardiac, at 23 and an arobics instructor, I had a

silent heart attack. After nearly 15 yrs, they finally dxed me with 2nd

degree heart block. Luckily , I sonn was dxed with Lyme and after a year or

so of abx, my symptoms slowed. After another year my symptoms were all but

gone. I havent had an arrythmia now in about 8 months.

I had nearly every cardiac test done, from tilt table ( never again on

my live little body LOL) to Cardiac Cintigraphy, holters, event monitors and

still more.

If you have cardiac symptoms, get a thourough cardiac workup. These

hatefull little ketes get into every little nook and cranny and they just

looooooove our hearts.

[Guest guest]

> Yes, please get as technical as possible. I'm a biologist and thrive on

such

> stuff which is why I think I might feel better, more calm, when this is

> happening, if I know why it is happening in detail. Wow-240 bpm!! If you

> don't want to post it all could you email me privately.

Go to lymenet.org and do a search for 'cardiac' or 'heartblock' they

have a lot of links. Also, Art has a great site, which I lost after puter

crashed. Good luck! /Pepi

[Guest guest]

Goodness, at 240 beats per minute, you would be a candidate of cardioversion

immediately...vital organs suffer when they don't get proper perfusion and at

such a rapid tachyarrythmia, this is very serious. I also get occasional

rapid tachy runs but they resolve within a few minutes.

Donna

[Guest guest]

In my case, my heart rate was 120+ sitting. My heart has checked out fine too so

it is concluded that the neurological connections between the brain and the

heart that are screwed up or the autonomic nervous system is or both maybe. This

has improved dramatically as my Lyme treatment has progressed. Check out

http://www.ndrf.org/ for more info.

Jen

I know this issue has been discussed alot and I have read some posts

about fast heart rate and am being troubled by that greatly as I

write (HR 105 just sitting), with chest pain, SOB, etc. I was just

wondering if anyone has ever heard a good explananation of why this

happens. I know it is from Lyme but what exactly causes it? Is it due

to heart damage?, the dead spirochaetes getting clogged in there?

what?

I've been to the ER 2-3 times because of it and then had a treadmill

stress test with echodardiogram a couple years ago and everything

was ....drum roll, yep, fine!

Robin W. in California