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No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people just to

let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something does

happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for the mom's

with 5-9 mon olds because we hs and if my son was not there for these " after

preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been exposed. I am having a

hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate their kids, we are the

only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I still would not get my

kids the shot anyway.

Thank you!!

>From: " Mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...>

>Reply-Vaccinations

><Vaccinations >

>Subject: RE: Help?

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:04:02 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>In theory, yes. Check out this link

>http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068701/ to give you details of

>incubation, methods of transmission, etc. The prodromal period is anything

>up to 20 days, and child is infectious for roughly five or six days after

>spots erupt. My dd has just had it and I kept her off school for a week

>to

>be sure.

>

>Given the infectious nature of CP and that the boy who your son played with

>has probably already been in contact with loads more folk, I really

>wouldn't

>give yourself the extra stress of phoning all your contacts. If your son

>has contracted it and has already passed it on, there's nothing you can do

>about it and it's only going to make folk worry if you start making special

>calls to tell them. If they're susceptible they'll get it, if not, then

>there's no risk anyway. It's only really a potential problem for

>immunocompromised folk, so unless your son has been in contact with

>someone

>who has a very weak immune system (e.g. having cancer treatment, had a

>transplanted organ) then there's no need for concern.

>

>I'm assuming that your son has not already had CP? If so, then most likely

>he'll already have immunity.

>

>HTH.

>

>Love, light and peace,

>

>Sue

>

> " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

>that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

>laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

>

>MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting non-vaccinating

>UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

>touch with each other

>Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for all

>imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

>

> > Help?

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I know that there has been a thread on this topic but I am

> > panicked. I have

> > just learned tonight that another boy my son played cards with on

> > Thursday

> > has the chicken pox. I am curious as to whether my son could have

> > caught it

> > from just " sitting " there. We went to a home of one of the moms

> > in a French

> > preschool (my daughter attends) to have lunch and play on mon. as

> > the class

> > does each week. My son came because we homeschool. I am NOT

> > worried for my

> > kids, however what I AM worried about is all of the moms who have little

> > ones and babies. One of the mom just had twins(who were not there) and

>my

> > daughter played with the nine month old. I feel that the right

> > thing to do

> > is find out how it is transmitted and then to phone these parents so

>that

> > they know my child played with someone who has it. Is there

> > anyway to know

> > if my son was exposed from just playing cards? I think that regardless

>we

> > have to " lay low " for a week or two in case they come down with

> > it. Right?

> > Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.........

> > Thank you very much!

> > , CA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people just to

let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something does

happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for the mom's

with 5-9 mos olds, because we hs and if my son was not there for these

" after preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been exposed. I am

having a hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate their kids,

we are the only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I still would

not get my kids the shot anyway.

Thank you!!

>From: " Mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...>

>Reply-Vaccinations

><Vaccinations >

>Subject: RE: Help?

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:04:02 -0000

>

>Hi ,

>

>In theory, yes. Check out this link

>http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068701/ to give you details of

>incubation, methods of transmission, etc. The prodromal period is anything

>up to 20 days, and child is infectious for roughly five or six days after

>spots erupt. My dd has just had it and I kept her off school for a week

>to

>be sure.

>

>Given the infectious nature of CP and that the boy who your son played with

>has probably already been in contact with loads more folk, I really

>wouldn't

>give yourself the extra stress of phoning all your contacts. If your son

>has contracted it and has already passed it on, there's nothing you can do

>about it and it's only going to make folk worry if you start making special

>calls to tell them. If they're susceptible they'll get it, if not, then

>there's no risk anyway. It's only really a potential problem for

>immunocompromised folk, so unless your son has been in contact with

>someone

>who has a very weak immune system (e.g. having cancer treatment, had a

>transplanted organ) then there's no need for concern.

>

>I'm assuming that your son has not already had CP? If so, then most likely

>he'll already have immunity.

>

>HTH.

>

>Love, light and peace,

>

>Sue

>

> " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

>that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

>laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

>

>MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting non-vaccinating

>UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

>touch with each other

>Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for all

>imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

>

> > Help?

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > I know that there has been a thread on this topic but I am

> > panicked. I have

> > just learned tonight that another boy my son played cards with on

> > Thursday

> > has the chicken pox. I am curious as to whether my son could have

> > caught it

> > from just " sitting " there. We went to a home of one of the moms

> > in a French

> > preschool (my daughter attends) to have lunch and play on mon. as

> > the class

> > does each week. My son came because we homeschool. I am NOT

> > worried for my

> > kids, however what I AM worried about is all of the moms who have little

> > ones and babies. One of the mom just had twins(who were not there) and

>my

> > daughter played with the nine month old. I feel that the right

> > thing to do

> > is find out how it is transmitted and then to phone these parents so

>that

> > they know my child played with someone who has it. Is there

> > anyway to know

> > if my son was exposed from just playing cards? I think that regardless

>we

> > have to " lay low " for a week or two in case they come down with

> > it. Right?

> > Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.........

> > Thank you very much!

> > , CA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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But having been exposed, your son could unknowingly have infected your

daughter who would still have probably passed it on at this group because

she could have been infectious before spots appeared.

Don't put yourself on a guilt trip, . If these other kids have all been

vaxed, then the mums have nothing to fear.

And neither your son nor daughter may prove to be susceptible. So you may

be beating yourself up for nothing! Out of curiosity, where would the

original little chap have got it from? Is he vaxed?

Sue

>

> No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people just to

> let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something does

> happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for

> the mom's

> with 5-9 mos olds, because we hs and if my son was not there for these

> " after preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been exposed. I am

> having a hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate

> their kids,

> we are the only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I

> still would

> not get my kids the shot anyway.

> Thank you!!

>

>

> >From: " Mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinations

> ><Vaccinations >

> >Subject: RE: Help?

> >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:04:02 -0000

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >In theory, yes. Check out this link

> >http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068701/ to give you details of

> >incubation, methods of transmission, etc. The prodromal period

> is anything

> >up to 20 days, and child is infectious for roughly five or six days after

> >spots erupt. My dd has just had it and I kept her off school

> for a week

> >to

> >be sure.

> >

> >Given the infectious nature of CP and that the boy who your son

> played with

> >has probably already been in contact with loads more folk, I really

> >wouldn't

> >give yourself the extra stress of phoning all your contacts. If your son

> >has contracted it and has already passed it on, there's nothing

> you can do

> >about it and it's only going to make folk worry if you start

> making special

> >calls to tell them. If they're susceptible they'll get it, if not, then

> >there's no risk anyway. It's only really a potential problem for

> >immunocompromised folk, so unless your son has been in contact with

> >someone

> >who has a very weak immune system (e.g. having cancer treatment, had a

> >transplanted organ) then there's no need for concern.

> >

> >I'm assuming that your son has not already had CP? If so, then

> most likely

> >he'll already have immunity.

> >

> >HTH.

> >

> >Love, light and peace,

> >

> >Sue

> >

> > " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

> >that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

> >laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

> >

> >MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting

> non-vaccinating

> >UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

> >touch with each other

> >Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for all

> >imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

> >

> > > Help?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > I know that there has been a thread on this topic but I am

> > > panicked. I have

> > > just learned tonight that another boy my son played cards with on

> > > Thursday

> > > has the chicken pox. I am curious as to whether my son could have

> > > caught it

> > > from just " sitting " there. We went to a home of one of the moms

> > > in a French

> > > preschool (my daughter attends) to have lunch and play on mon. as

> > > the class

> > > does each week. My son came because we homeschool. I am NOT

> > > worried for my

> > > kids, however what I AM worried about is all of the moms who

> have little

> > > ones and babies. One of the mom just had twins(who were not

> there) and

> >my

> > > daughter played with the nine month old. I feel that the right

> > > thing to do

> > > is find out how it is transmitted and then to phone these parents so

> >that

> > > they know my child played with someone who has it. Is there

> > > anyway to know

> > > if my son was exposed from just playing cards? I think that

> regardless

> >we

> > > have to " lay low " for a week or two in case they come down with

> > > it. Right?

> > > Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.........

> > > Thank you very much!

> > > , CA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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No, he is not vaccinated. Neither is the sister. I just learned that if you

do not have a fever and/or sores that you are not contagious. I feel much

better because that means that my kids did not possibly infect anyone if

they are incubating it. It has been seven days today since they played. I

guess the fever occurs before the actual eruption. I am not beating myself

up now because neither of my kids had a fever monday, or any other day. They

are never sick, so chances are they may not even get it. I have heard of

kids who are exposed and never come down with it. Of course I would prefer

for them to get when they are young, I just wanted to be sure that if they

would get it that we would knowingly expose them and keep them properly away

from places like my daughter's playgroup, where there are small babies.

Thank you for the feedback!

>From: " Mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...>

>Reply-Vaccinations

><Vaccinations >

>Subject: RE: Help?

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:17:03 -0000

>

>But having been exposed, your son could unknowingly have infected your

>daughter who would still have probably passed it on at this group because

>she could have been infectious before spots appeared.

>

>Don't put yourself on a guilt trip, . If these other kids have all

>been

>vaxed, then the mums have nothing to fear.

>

>And neither your son nor daughter may prove to be susceptible. So you may

>be beating yourself up for nothing! Out of curiosity, where would the

>original little chap have got it from? Is he vaxed?

>

>Sue

>

> >

> > No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people just

>to

> > let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something does

> > happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for

> > the mom's

> > with 5-9 mos olds, because we hs and if my son was not there for these

> > " after preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been exposed. I

>am

> > having a hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate

> > their kids,

> > we are the only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I

> > still would

> > not get my kids the shot anyway.

> > Thank you!!

> >

> >

> > >From: " Mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...>

> > >Reply-Vaccinations

> > ><Vaccinations >

> > >Subject: RE: Help?

> > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:04:02 -0000

> > >

> > >Hi ,

> > >

> > >In theory, yes. Check out this link

> > >http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/23068701/ to give you details of

> > >incubation, methods of transmission, etc. The prodromal period

> > is anything

> > >up to 20 days, and child is infectious for roughly five or six days

>after

> > >spots erupt. My dd has just had it and I kept her off school

> > for a week

> > >to

> > >be sure.

> > >

> > >Given the infectious nature of CP and that the boy who your son

> > played with

> > >has probably already been in contact with loads more folk, I really

> > >wouldn't

> > >give yourself the extra stress of phoning all your contacts. If your

>son

> > >has contracted it and has already passed it on, there's nothing

> > you can do

> > >about it and it's only going to make folk worry if you start

> > making special

> > >calls to tell them. If they're susceptible they'll get it, if not,

>then

> > >there's no risk anyway. It's only really a potential problem for

> > >immunocompromised folk, so unless your son has been in contact with

> > >someone

> > >who has a very weak immune system (e.g. having cancer treatment, had a

> > >transplanted organ) then there's no need for concern.

> > >

> > >I'm assuming that your son has not already had CP? If so, then

> > most likely

> > >he'll already have immunity.

> > >

> > >HTH.

> > >

> > >Love, light and peace,

> > >

> > >Sue

> > >

> > > " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of

>science

> > >that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than

>on

> > >laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of

>Homoeopathy " .

> > >

> > >MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting

> > non-vaccinating

> > >UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children

>in

> > >touch with each other

> > >Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for all

> > >imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

> > >

> > > > Help?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > I know that there has been a thread on this topic but I am

> > > > panicked. I have

> > > > just learned tonight that another boy my son played cards with on

> > > > Thursday

> > > > has the chicken pox. I am curious as to whether my son could have

> > > > caught it

> > > > from just " sitting " there. We went to a home of one of the moms

> > > > in a French

> > > > preschool (my daughter attends) to have lunch and play on mon. as

> > > > the class

> > > > does each week. My son came because we homeschool. I am NOT

> > > > worried for my

> > > > kids, however what I AM worried about is all of the moms who

> > have little

> > > > ones and babies. One of the mom just had twins(who were not

> > there) and

> > >my

> > > > daughter played with the nine month old. I feel that the right

> > > > thing to do

> > > > is find out how it is transmitted and then to phone these parents so

> > >that

> > > > they know my child played with someone who has it. Is there

> > > > anyway to know

> > > > if my son was exposed from just playing cards? I think that

> > regardless

> > >we

> > > > have to " lay low " for a week or two in case they come down with

> > > > it. Right?

> > > > Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.........

> > > > Thank you very much!

> > > > , CA

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi ,

I just wanted to add, there is no point worrying about this. Despite

the hype, chicken pox is no big deal. It's a vaccine I wouldn't

consider for a second. Kids are supposed to get it.

I'd be so happy to know that my child had been exposed to chicken pox

- especially if I was still breastfeeding (5-9 mo).

Be proud of your stance on vaccines - and don't fear these childhood

diseases. Keep your children in good health, and I'm sure you do -

and don't let the fear mongers win!

Cheers

Naomi, refusing to be frightened by the fear mongers

NSW, Australia

> No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people

just to

> let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something

does

> happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for

the mom's

> with 5-9 mos olds, because we hs and if my son was not there for

these

> " after preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been

exposed. I am

> having a hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate

their kids,

> we are the only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I

still would

> not get my kids the shot anyway.

> Thank you!!

>

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Hi,

I am not worried at all by this disease. I had it, my siblings had it.

There are mothers with three kids under 21/2 and I cannot imagine how I

would handle three small little ones sick at once. I now understand that by

not being feverish or having lesions that it is not transmissable. My kids

did not have a fever when playing with these little ones, so as far as I

know we did not transmit anything, even if they did get it. On the other

hand if we do not get it, then I can try and expose them and take the proper

means to keep them away from babies who could catch it from them. I really

appreciate all of the feedback!

, ca

>From: galah_1@...

>Reply-Vaccinations

>Vaccinations

>Subject: Re: Help?

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:11:26 -0000

>

>

>Hi ,

>

>I just wanted to add, there is no point worrying about this. Despite

>the hype, chicken pox is no big deal. It's a vaccine I wouldn't

>consider for a second. Kids are supposed to get it.

>

>I'd be so happy to know that my child had been exposed to chicken pox

>- especially if I was still breastfeeding (5-9 mo).

>

>Be proud of your stance on vaccines - and don't fear these childhood

>diseases. Keep your children in good health, and I'm sure you do -

>and don't let the fear mongers win!

>

>Cheers

>

>Naomi, refusing to be frightened by the fear mongers

>NSW, Australia

>

>

>

>

> > No, my son has not had it yet. I feel like I need to phone people

>just to

> > let them know he was around someone who had it so that if something

>does

> > happen to their kids they are not surprised. I just feel bad for

>the mom's

> > with 5-9 mos olds, because we hs and if my son was not there for

>these

> > " after preschool gatherings " the kids never would have been

>exposed. I am

> > having a hard time with that one. I am sure they all vaccinate

>their kids,

> > we are the only ones who don't and I have never made it known. I

>still would

> > not get my kids the shot anyway.

> > Thank you!!

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

> I am wondering if someone can help me out here....

>

> I know I have not been here in ages....haven't read email in a

> longgggg time, as I am currently in woodcutting mode. (firewood)

>

> So, here is my question.

>

> I am trying to make a little project and I need a (silicone) mold.

> Now, tell me if I am hallucinting...

> Did someone (NOT on this list that I know of) say that you can buy

> silicone to make molds at like Home Depot? Is this something I

> THOUGHT I saw, but did not?

>

> Would appreciate a response greatly...dumb me, trying to do

projects

> on a Sunday afternoon w/o the PROPER supplies!!!!

>

> Kae...when will I ever learn?

oh yes you can. Your not going crazy. I have some actually. get it at

Micheals. there is two kinds. One is at joanns forgot where think in

the plaster and fimo dough section. But that you mix part a with b

and stick in in something like a shoe box and then stick your think

you want to mold it. Personally it sounds like ALOT of waist to me.

The kind I got I got from Micheals. It is in a white plastic 16oz

sized jar. All you do is take it and brush it onto what ever you want

to mold. Apply at least 3 layers. and then peel it away. I used it

on a glass unicorn I had to make unicorn soaps. The only down fall is

that It has a fairly strong Amonia smell. But you can use it for all

kinds of stuff. Its fun.And a little jar goes a LONG way.

Good luck.

>

> <=========================>

> Olive Tree Soaps

> Web Site: http://olivetreesoaps.com

> Email: kae@o...

> <=========================>

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In a message dated 5/22/2005 9:27:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Koalas_boutique@... writes:

The kind I got I got from Micheals. It is in a white plastic 16oz

sized jar. All you do is take it and brush it onto what ever you want

to mold. Apply at least 3 layers. and then peel it away

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here's my question about making one's own molds. If I use, say, a figurine

to make a mold, am I violating a copyright?

Beth

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Would one be able to do this with a wooden log mold to

make a silicone liner?

Debbie S.

The kind I got I got from Micheals. It is in a

white plastic 16oz sized jar. All you do is take it

and brush it onto what ever you want to mold. Apply at

least 3 layers. and then peel it away

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* oh yes you can. Your not going crazy. I have some actually. get it at

Micheals. there is two kinds. One is at joanns forgot where think in

the plaster and fimo dough section. But that you mix part a with b

and stick in in something like a shoe box and then stick your think

you want to mold it. Personally it sounds like ALOT of waist to me.

The kind I got I got from Micheals. It is in a white plastic 16oz

sized jar. All you do is take it and brush it onto what ever you want

to mold. Apply at least 3 layers. and then peel it away. I used it

on a glass unicorn I had to make unicorn soaps. The only down fall is

that It has a fairly strong Amonia smell. But you can use it for all

kinds of stuff. Its fun.And a little jar goes a LONG way.

Good luck.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

As anyone who knows me knows, I love ie dogs! And so, I am on a

couple of ie lists. Three of my cyber friends have lost a pup

this year, and I wanted to let them know I was thinking about them.

I made a little ie dog head, then formed " wings " behind it

(ie Angel) out of Sculpey clay. I then made a smallish bar-

shaped rectangle to mount it on so I could make my own mold. I am

soooo anxious to make this into a bar of soap!!!!

I have gotten " Oomoo " from Smooth-on, (thank you so much for the

info,Shaye!!!!) but I ran out and am wanting to expedite this thing!

Yes, I AM impatient! The Oomoo must be similar to the components sold

at JoAnn's, as you must mix two different compounds to form each

mold. These molds do turn out to be VERY rugged and reusable. I do

know that if these soaps turn out as cute as I think they will, I

will probably need to order LOTS of Oomoo and made a multi-mold!!!

Thanks again!

Kae

<=========================>

Olive Tree Soaps

Web Site: http://olivetreesoaps.com

Email: kae@...

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Kae, did you find the stuf at Joanns? What is it called there?

Shaye

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As anyone who knows me knows, I love ie dogs! And so, I am on a

couple of ie lists. Three of my cyber friends have lost a pup

this year, and I wanted to let them know I was thinking about them.

I made a little ie dog head, then formed " wings " behind it

(ie Angel) out of Sculpey clay. I then made a smallish bar-

shaped rectangle to mount it on so I could make my own mold. I am

soooo anxious to make this into a bar of soap!!!!

I have gotten " Oomoo " from Smooth-on, (thank you so much for the

info,Shaye!!!!) but I ran out and am wanting to expedite this thing!

Yes, I AM impatient! The Oomoo must be similar to the components sold

at JoAnn's, as you must mix two different compounds to form each

mold. These molds do turn out to be VERY rugged and reusable. I do

know that if these soaps turn out as cute as I think they will, I

will probably need to order LOTS of Oomoo and made a multi-mold!!!

Thanks again!

Kae

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Shaye,

Nope...am waiting a little for them to open. I am anxious to see if

their stuff is the smooth-on stuff! Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

I actually was not able to read email again til this morning, as Mark

had promised the kids to look at bikes, and we left shortly after I

posted yesterday.

I am sooooo anxious to make this mold!!!!

Kae

On 23 May 2005 at 8:19, Shaye wrote:

Kae, did you find the stuf at Joanns? What is it called there?

Shaye

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As anyone who knows me knows, I love ie dogs! And so, I am on a

couple of ie lists. Three of my cyber friends have lost a pup

this year, and I wanted to let them know I was thinking about them.

I made a little ie dog head, then formed " wings " behind it

(ie Angel) out of Sculpey clay. I then made a smallish bar-

shaped rectangle to mount it on so I could make my own mold. I am

soooo anxious to make this into a bar of soap!!!!

I have gotten " Oomoo " from Smooth-on, (thank you so much for the

info,Shaye!!!!) but I ran out and am wanting to expedite this thing!

Yes, I AM impatient! The Oomoo must be similar to the components sold

at JoAnn's, as you must mix two different compounds to form each

mold. These molds do turn out to be VERY rugged and reusable. I do

know that if these soaps turn out as cute as I think they will, I

will probably need to order LOTS of Oomoo and made a multi-mold!!!

Thanks again!

Kae

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> Here's my question about making one's own molds. If I use, say, a

figurine

> to make a mold, am I violating a copyright?

>

> Beth

>

Well It depends as to what you do with the item you are molding and

probably the company of the item you are using. When I did my first

mold project in college we had to take an object and make a plaster

mold out of it and then make at least 3 duplicates of the item. We

then had to do things with the molded object in order to make the

items appear differant. To me that was the fun part.

I knew I wanted to do an animal but the only thing I found was a

Plastic Pluto baby toy. I brought it in and we discused that

Technically making a mold out of a DISNEY caracter was in fact a

problem. However since i wasn't selling the duplicates then it was

safe. Also since I was modifying the items and that the finished

product didn't look like pluto all the better. Which was true I ended

up carving off the droopy ears making them short or turning them into

horns and making him a vampire holding a pumpkin or adding extra

plaster to the face turning him into a boxer dog(boxer shorts and

mitts included)Or covering it with fur and making it a funky looking

poodle. Can we say I had a whole series going I think i ended up

having a basket ful of 12 puppies total. I definatly got an A on that

project and it was so fun as well.

So if you do plan on selling the item then you need to modify the

item to be molded somehow and modifying it somehow is the best thing

to do either way. but i think that if the item is old. think vintage

or somehow unrecognisable somehow and the company doesn't make the

item anymore i think you might be safe. Though a slight modification

is best. Think about all those companies who make look alike products

(vases, lamps, cleansers, so on)

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In a message dated 5/23/2005 8:00:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kae@... writes:

I made a little ie dog head, then formed " wings " behind it

(ie Angel) out of Sculpey clay. I then made a smallish bar-

shaped rectangle to mount it on so I could make my own mold. I am

soooo anxious to make this into a bar of soap!!!!

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That sounds so cute, Kae! I'll bet you'll sell a lot of them.

Beth

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, Welcome. I'm new also. If you find out let me know, and, I will look also. My friend also has these and no one thought anything about it. He has 3, in the same area as you do, and, he was diagnosed over a year ago. I'll let you knwo if I find anything. Take care Blessings Grace

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lemme do some research to see if I can find out anything for you . But my instincts tell me its your lymph nodes and inflamation could mean any number of things .

Help?

Hello everyone I am new to this message Board but I have new symptoms that concern me and having a hard time finding the answers I need. I was diagnosed with Hep C in 1994, until recently I've been fine, I am having some problems with lumps in my neck there are about 4 of them all the way down the back side of my neck on both sides they cause head aches in the back of my head and stiffness in my neck, I am also extremely tired all the time, sometimes I have problems catching my breath, my question is anyone else experience this and know if these symptoms are hep c related? any help would be great I can't afford to go the doctor right now since I've been laid off from work. Thanks

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Here is something about hepatitis and it mentions lumps in the neck

Hepatitis

Alcohol can damage the liver even in moderate quantities. Alcohol is a concentrated sugar which causes fat to be deposited in the liver. For those who drink only occasionally, the damage is temporary and the liver can usually 'bounce back' to normal after several days of rest and clean living. Those who drink more often don't give the liver a chance to recuperate from the alcohol poisoning and more serious damage to the live can result. In some cases alcohol abuse can lead to alcoholic hepatitis or cirrhosis. As mentioned before, the liver is one organ which has the amazing ability to regenerate itself. Cirrhosis is a condition in which a liver damaged by disease, alcohol or drugs doesn't grow back 'good as new.' In cirrhosis, the liver forms fibrous scar tissue and lumpy irregular nodules as it regenerates. In advanced cases the liver becomes so badly scarred by cirrhosis that it can no longer do its work, and the afflicted person dies of liver failure.

The liver as we know has well over 500 functions in the human body. Below are some functions of this amazing organ:

Metabolizes proteins, fats, and carbohydrates, thus providing energy and nutrients

Stores vitamins, minerals, and sugars

Filters the blood and helps remove harmful chemicals and bacteria

Creates bile which breaks down fats

Helps to assimilate and store fat soluble vitamins (A,E,D,K)

Stores extra blood which can be quickly released when needed

Creates serum proteins which maintain fluid balance and act as carriers

Helps maintain electrolyte and water balance

Creates immune substances such as gamma globulin

Breaks down and eliminates excess hormones

Vascular (blood management)

Provides blood clotting factors

Breaks down ammonia (and other toxins) created in the colon by bacteria; thus preventing death

Helps to maintain blood pressure

Constructs cholesterol and estrogen, reconstructs hormones

Humanizes nutrients, metabolizes protein, carbohydrates, fat for energy

Synthesizes urea, constructs blood protein, interconverts amino acids

Constructs 50,000 systems of enzymes to govern metabolic activity throughout the body

Removes damaged red blood cells

Liver WeaknessSigns and Symptoms

Depression, Anger, Frustration, Lumps in neck, breast, etc., Poor digestion

Dizziness, Eye problems, Red or flushed face, Irritability, Ringing in the ears, Warm palms and soles

Hypertension, Migraines and other types of headaches, Dizziness, Insomnia, Violent anger, Bitter taste in mouth

Weak tendons and ligaments, Chronic menstrual problems, Scanty menstruation

Rigid body, Vertigo, Extreme dizziness, Severe pain, Convulsions, Spasm. Tremors

Constipation, Sinus congestion, Allergies, Hemorrhoids, Excessive Mucus

Difficulty in breathing, Fatigue, Respiratory distress, Gas, Bloating, Cholesterol problems, Skin problems.

Chronic degenerative diseases, Cancer, Diabetes, Arthritis, Osteoporosis

Unfortunately blood testing has no real way of telling us the health of our liver or our biological age. But we have discovered that by the time you have reached the age of 30 your liver is probably functioning at 75% of its ability at best.

The health and vitality of all body systems depend to a large extent on the health and vitality of the liver. Because we are constantly bombarded by toxins in our air, water and food, it is a good idea once or twice a year to renew the health of a clogged and overworked liver with a detoxification regimen. Also if you have been using prescription drugs (antibiotics and/or tranquilizers), for any length of time, your immune system may be exhausted, and it's essential to rejuvenate and flush your liver to release stored toxins.

As you learn more about your body, always remember how vital your liver is to maintaining good health. It's not something we think about all the time, but the common problems of an abused or toxic liver will speak to you with many symptoms. You know your body better than anyone else.. listen to it.

Hepatitis A, B

Pathological Considerations: An inflammatory disease of the liver caused by viral or bacterial infections or a variety of toxic agents characterized by jaundice, fever or enlargement of the liver, often resulting in fatty degeneration and cirrhosis of the liver.

Physiological Considerations: Damage to the liver with fatty degeneration and scar formation may cause accumulation of ammonia in the blood which comes from the breakdown of body proteins and is accelerated by stress.

Hepatitis C, D, E

Pathological Considerations: An inflammatory disease of the liver caused by viral or bacterial infections or a variety of toxic agents characterized by jaundice, fever or enlargement of the liver, often resulting in fatty degeneration and cirrhosis of the liver.

Here is one article about lumps in the neck and possible causes http://www.drkoop.com/ency/1/003098.html

Help?

Hello everyone I am new to this message Board but I have new symptoms that concern me and having a hard time finding the answers I need. I was diagnosed with Hep C in 1994, until recently I've been fine, I am having some problems with lumps in my neck there are about 4 of them all the way down the back side of my neck on both sides they cause head aches in the back of my head and stiffness in my neck, I am also extremely tired all the time, sometimes I have problems catching my breath, my question is anyone else experience this and know if these symptoms are hep c related? any help would be great I can't afford to go the doctor right now since I've been laid off from work. Thanks

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Shaye

Not to make light of your husband's misfortune, but after I read your

first sentence I had to recheck who sent the email because I was SURE it

was going to have Colleen's name on it. Can you afford to hire a woman

to come in and take your place as his wife for a month or so? (lol)

Seriously , how did he manage to break his leg anyway? It must have

been a pretty serious break for them to keep him in the hospital. It

wasn't a compound fracture was it? My first husband had a bad

motorcycle accident when we were in our mid twenties and my daughter was

2 yrs old. They had to operate and put pins in his leg and he had a

cast on right up to his crotch for months. I remember for the first

month or so before they could put a knee hinge in the case, if he had to

go anyplace I had to put the back seats down in the car, open the

backhatch and he'd have to lay down and inch himself inside and ride

laying down the whole way to our destination. Needless to say we didn't

go very far for the first month. Our house had all the bedrooms on the

2nd floor and the only bathroom was upstairs, too. So we had to turn

our livingroom into a bedroom by renting a hospital bed and a portable

toilet chair from the pharmacy. What made things worse was that the day

he had the accident he had just been given permission by his doctor to

return to work as a fireman after having surgery for testicular cancer

and had gone through weeks of radiation treatments. I came real close to

having a nervous breakdown!! Boy, those were some tough times.

Good luck to you both and no matter what......keep your sense of humor

or you'll go nuts.

Help?

Hey guys. My hubby broke his leg yesterday. This is a first for us

after all these years. First bone break (well, major bone anyway),

first hospital stay (for him), first time he has ever been

incompacitated or whatever. He is in a full leg cast and I think I can

pick him up from the hospital today. Ok what Im asking is does anyone

have any advice taking care of this man with a full leg cast on for the

next weeks? Im sure he will be staying on the sofa bed for a while so

he dosnt have to do the stairs. You can prive email me if you feel like

that. Thanks! Shaye

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Thanks and thanks everyone that prive emailed me. Its been a real

rough weekend for him. And of course we are only on day 3.

It was a pretty bad break in his leg but not compound. He had a sprial type

of fracture on his tibea starting about mid way up and going around to the

side and down to the ankle and I guess there were shards. Thats the best I

can describe how the dr described it. He had taken friday off and went

skiing with his freind from work. This was was his first time downhil, he

usualy does cross country. And at the end of the day he fell in a freaky

way and it broke. I guess whatever conditions that would make pins

possible were not there and a rod was iffy. Actually the dr thinks he can

still put a rod in which hubby seems to be considering because this cast

(toe to upper thigh) is really making him mad. He has to go see this dr

again this week. But anyway Yes we do have a bathroom downstairs and he

has taken over the sofa so we are managing that, and he could even probably

do some work for work if he could get to his computer but right now its too

painfull to go upstairs. Oh well. What you gonna do. Sorry to be kinda

graphic about the break, I know that bothers some folk.

LOL yea it wou ld be a good time to do a wife swap. LOL He actually has

been ok with me thought, not too grumpy. Oor maybe this is just his natural

state anyway . LOL ohh Im kidding.

Shaye

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> ... I had to recheck who sent the email because I was SURE it was

going to have Colleen's name on it.

ROFL! Yeah, I had to make sure I hadn't written it too!

Don't jinx us though cause I'm pretty sure dh is due for something

else to happen to him. I mean, it has been a month since his last

injury so he's probably due for another. :)

Colleen

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Oh Shaye!!!

I have been having problems with my email lately and somehow I missed

this...I am reading from the ey site now, and I read your later

post....POOR FRED!!!!

You are not going to BELIEVE this, but I have my radio on Family Life

Network (a Christian station that broadcasts across NY and PA) AND,

they said that a 17 yo was killed at Holiday Valley this weekend, and

there were three OTHER serious skiing accidents at Holiday Valley and

Peak N' Peak this weekend!!! (people running into trees)

Now..I suppose this happened at Bristol Mountain? BM is known across

the state for being quite dangeous. Ugh!

All of this aside, I cannot give you advice from the standpoint of

living with a huge cast, but I do know that a hubby that cannot WALK

needs a LOT of attention! ( " Honey, can you grab that insurance

paperwork for me? Oh, and while you are at it, could you get me an

icewater....with lots of ice? And, by the way, did you notice that the

wastepaper basket here is kind of full, and I can't see out of the

window cause of the smudge? And, when you get a minute, could you make

me a sandwich? And, the cat seems to want to go outside! "

YOU, my dear, will need to develop a GOOD sense of humor!!! heheheeheh

I pray that the healing process is speedy and Fred's recovery is a

realy great one! I can't imagine trying to live with a big cast

myself!!! It always helps if we put ourselves into THEIR shoes, cause

it becomes REAL easy to feel sorry for ourselves as caregivers!

Did the DR say how long the big cast needs to remain on? Well, my best

advice is this: try to think of some cool things you can do together

and enjoy...watch videos...plan a romantic Valentine's dinner with

just a little bit of a twist to it! Have Fred look at cookbooks and

see if anything sounds really good. I know how hard it is to live with

a disability! And, I know that if we do not think creatively, life

gets to be a real drag quickly.

Perhaps now would be a good time to buy a laptop and a network so Mr

Fred could do some puter time!

Please take care, and try to enjoy this time together. It may seem

like it is taking forever, but in the grand scheme of things, this

will be but a small drop in the bucket!

Hugs to you, the girls, and Fred!

Kae

>

>

> Hey guys. My hubby broke his leg yesterday. This is a first for us

after

> all these years.

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I mean, it has been a month since his last

> injury so he's probably due for another. :)

>

oooooooooooooo, Colleen!!! Bite your tongue!!!!!

You know, maybe he is just like those little boys that seem to have a dark

cloud of " doom " following them...then, suddenly, one day, all is well and

the junk STOPS!!! Let's hope this is the case!!!

Kae...who is mom to Ben who seems to CONSTANTLY be saying, " it was an

ACCIDENT, mom!!! "

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> You know, maybe he is just like those little boys that seem to have

a dark cloud of " doom " following them...then, suddenly, one day, all

is well and the junk STOPS!!!

Oh he does have a cloud of doom hanging over him. It's been there his

entire life. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen to .

That's one thing we can count on. We're still waiting for that " one

day " to come along when things turn around, and waiting, and

waiting. :)

Colleen

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Oh Kae, how right you are!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, a 17 yo died and a few other serious skiing accidents in the past week.

They (those in the know) are blaming 'no helmets' .

Jeanine

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>

>

> Hey guys. My hubby broke his leg yesterday. This is a first for us

after

> all these years.

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Thanks Kae, Yep it he was at Bristol. Ohh we are getting along pretty

good. Not too grumpy so far but today he treid to get up and do too much

like get around or sit at my computer which IS downstairs and stuf like tht

for a while but then his toes started swelling so he has been back down all

afternoon. A laptop would be ideal for him but its not going to happen. He

just isnt comfortable after a while laying there but we are figuring that

out too. The Dr said in cast for 12 weeks. He has a dr appointment on

thursday to see how everything is going so far. So... Im not whining or

anything like that. As long as he has a good sence of humor, I will too.

Thanks

Shaye

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