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Based on your multiple diagnoses of ME (?) and Fibromyalgia PLUS the pain,

diarrhea, shivering, and weight loss (my symptoms also), I would consider

investigating the possibility of Lyme disease.

My sickness " voyage " started out with optic neuritis, then multiple sclerosis

(MS). The only constant in life was a loss of physical and mental strength.

My time on LDN, and especially with this LDN support group, I was able to move

away from the traditional MS treatments and even able to consider Lyme disease.

Eventually, I figured out that my sickness might be Lyme disease and hired a

Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD) to determine f my sickness was Lyme disease.

I was diagnosed with Lyme and started treatment in March 2008. I'm still quite

puny, but, I am more confident with my new diagnosis and treatment. I am now

taking MANY antibiotics and MANY supplements.

NONE of the Lyme tests are accurate, especially the standard test most

physicians use. Lyme is a CLINICAL diagnosis of an extensive history, physical

exam, and maybe a test prescription of an antibiotic like doxycycline looking

for a Herxheimer, aka " herx " reaction. These herx reactions are like being run

over with a Mack truck and left on the road dead. There is no " I THINK I had a

herx " .

I know a fellow " Lymie " that is using LDN, along with her antibiotics, for her

Lyme, and is reporting some positive results. I am currently investigating a new

source for LDN for me.

Here are a few Lyme internet links. There are MANY Lyme videos on Youtube also.

Symptoms:

www.CanLyme.com

Internet link with a story of on patient going from MS to Lyme, PLUS a second

video on LDN

http://vimeo.com/2354218

Trailer for the Lyme disease documentary " Under Our Skin "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSsnMQHIJZk

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> I've been on LDN for over 2 months now, for ME and FM. I had huge problems at

the start (see my first message below), which are sadly continuing.

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> I managed to increase the dose to 1 mg and then 1.5 mg after having a couple

of breaks of a few days, but now after a continuous spell of 10 days on 1.5 mg I

feel so ill I can hardly eat or walk. The pain is like nothing I've ever

experienced before - a severe cramp-like pain all over my body and I'm so dizzy

I stagger even with just a few steps. I'm losing weight fast, have intermittent

diarrhea, am shivering and sweating and have been almost completely bed-bound

for 4 weeks. .....

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Are you on any other medications/supplements? Dietary restrictions?

Jaxi

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:49 AM, jnnfr_kdd <j.kidd@...> wrote:

> I posted this message nearly 2 days ago as a follow up to a previous one but

it hasn't appeared yet - perhaps it got lost somehow.

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> Here it is again:

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> I've been on LDN for over 2 months now, for ME and FM. I had huge problems at

the start (see my first message below), which are sadly continuing.

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> I managed to increase the dose to 1 mg and then 1.5 mg after having a couple

of breaks of a few days, but now after a continuous spell of 10 days on 1.5 mg I

feel so ill I can hardly eat or walk. The pain is like nothing I've ever

experienced before - a severe cramp-like pain all over my body and I'm so dizzy

I stagger even with just a few steps. I'm losing weight fast, have intermittent

diarrhea, am shivering and sweating and have been almost completely bed-bound

for 4 weeks.

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> I still have the questions about TH1 and TH2 immunity - Art suggested I email

Dr McCandless with these, but I got no reply.

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> Has anyone any suggestions? Should I reduce the dose again, stop completely

for a while, or try to carry on. Has anyone else had these problems?

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>> Hi all

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>> Could anyone help me understand the theory behind how LDN works please? I've

read quite a lot of material, but am puzzled by something in a paper by Brown

and Pankkrepp - LDN for disease prevention and quality of life, published in

Medical Hypotheses, 2009.

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>> They cite research that suggests that beta-endorphins suppress TH1 and

augment TH2 cells. But other work suggests the opposite, and surely most

conditions that people take LDN for involve a damaging shift to TH2 immunity.

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>> I started LDN two and a half weeks ago for ME and Fibromyalgia (which I've

had for 28 years), taking 1.1 mg at first, then 1.5 mg for a few days. After one

week my pain and flu-like symptoms had got so much worse I decreased to 0.5 mg.

After 10 days on this dose I'm still in extreme pain, feeling very ill, sweating

and shivering, and haven't been able to eat anything much for all this time. So

I'm stopping today for a few days at least.

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>> Are these extreme reactions common at such a low dose?

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>> Many thanks for your help.

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