Re: Re: Does anyone get well?

November 26, 2002

Thank you all for your responses to my question " does anyone get

well " . I feel much better knowing that there is a network of

knowledgeable Lyme victims out there who care so much about each other.

I'm truly grateful for the hard work of those who keep this going, since

clearly it's a labor of love.

I'm still searching for a way to uinderstand all the political problems

with this disease and the $$$$/healthcare realtionship, where doctors

are compelled by insurance companies to leave us hurting. I had no idea

that getting sick would be so complicated and that doctors would take

illogical positions and politicians would back them up.

I have heard some talk of a class action suit against Kaiser in

California, does anyone know about it, who might be organizing it?

It does seem from talking to you all that thanks to my dear Dr. D that I

am doing most of the right things. I've gotten much more rigorous with

my supplements, since perhaps a lot of my neck pain is due to magnesium

deficiency.

Leana

November 27, 2002

In response to your comments about soliciting, why don't you comment on all

of the other people on this list who are promoting products that are

multi-level marketing. There are quite a few if you really look hard. No

one is asking you to try it if you don't want to, but there are many people

so badly suffering with Lyme that may want my help. I don't know why you

have taken such a dislike to me. I am just someone who knows that I can help

others and because I have the tenacity to do so, I am happy to say that there

are a number of people who are glad that they gave Sunrider a shot. I have

gained a great deal of knowledge because I have been through almost

everything that each and every one of you are currently going through and my

advice is as good or better than most, with or without the Sunrider. Please

note, I am the one who has been in remission and anti-biotic/ medication

free along with my whole family since 1995 because of a dear friend who was

persistent in sharing her knowledge with me. Maybe if you'd stop being so

judgmental and angry, you might see the forest for the trees.

Sue Rauch

November 28, 2002

Sue wrote:

There are many people so badly suffering

with Lyme that may want my help.

Hi Sue,

I appreciate your efforts. It's important

to be aware of supplements, medications, devices,

tests, etc. which may help us, including the stories

that describe how and under what circumstances

they are used. I'm sure I'm not alone in desiring

this kind of information.

As far as the question " Does anyone get well? "

is concerned, I have resigned myself to being infested

with spirochetes and other bacteria, viruses, malaria-sized

parasites, and mites. I think I can successfully combat

ticks, worms, fleas, and lice. I don't like to think

about prions. My strategy regarding my unwelcome guests

is to strengthen my immune system so that they are on the

defensive in reduced numbers and, perhaps, in less harmful

forms. I remind myself of one of the participants in

the Tuskeegee study of men, whose syphilis was deliberately

untreated, who died a few years ago at the age of 102.

Jack

November 29, 2002

Something I want to share.....

NATUREâ€™S GARDEN OF HEALTH

Basic Nutrition

Digestion is the reason that nutrition works. Without proper digestion, the

best of food is wasted. Digestion begins in the mouth.

* One job of the mouth is to break down food into smaller pieces.

* Starch begins the digestive process in the mouth, where enzymes break

it down into

sugars.

* Stress, drinking with meals (especially iced drinks) and improper

chewing impede

proper digestion.

The next step is the Stomach.

* Proteins and fats begin their digestion in the stomach.

* Starches continue to be digested here if the conditions are proper.

* Minerals in foods are being prepared for absorption in the small

intestines. It is the

hydrochloric acid in the stomach that does this job.

On to the Small Intestine.

* Pancreatic enzymes make protein and minerals available here.

* Most nutrient absorption occurs here, provided that the proper

chemical reactions have

occurred in previous steps.

* Bile from the liver and gallbladder enters here to digest fats.

Off to the Large Intestine.

* The large intestines are thought of most frequently as the waste

collection area. How-

ever, the large intestine has the job of holding waste until enough

water is reabsorbed

to hydrate the body. Constipation is often a sign of dehydration.

(Most headaches

are a result of dehydration too).

Elimination of waste makes room for absorption of nutrients.

* The body has four exit doors for waste which include the bowel,

kidneys, lungs and

skin. (the skin is known as the 3rd kidney)

* All route of elimination of waste need proper hydration to function at

peak performance.

Foods to limit or avoid for BEST health.

* Refined foods- white flour, white rice, refined grains of any sort.

* Refined sugars- This can include refined sugar (Dominoâ€™s), fructose,

honey or any

other processed sweetener. Check health food stores for NEW product-

Steevia--

natural sweetener.

* Artificial sweeteners- Aspartameâ€™s (Nutri-Sweet) list of possible

consequences include

behavioral changes in children, headaches, dizziness, epileptic-like

seizures, menstrual

problems and increased risk of cancer.

* Over cooked foods- Enzymes that help digest foods are destroyed when

the food

reaches high temperatures.

* Carbonated drinks- The hydrogen gas in soda as well as the increase

phosphates

leach minerals from the body, especially calcium.

* Caffeinated beverages- The caffeine is a major stress on the glandular

system. It also

makes the body acid and promotes disease growth.

* Foods not labeled as CERTIFIED organic.

Foods that benefit your body.

* Raw fruits and vegetables-- ideally lunch and dinner should be 1/2

veggies!

* Whole grains

* Cold-pressed vegetable oils, especially Extra Virgin, cold-pressed

olive oil

* Fresh juices-- not to be confused with canned, frozen or

reconstituted.

* High fiber foods

* Meats from certified, chemical-free growers. Proper protein portion

is the size of

the palm of your hand, 1â€ thick.

Donâ€™t forget the water!!!

* It is imperative to drink enough water to hydrate your system and the

rule is--

1/2 of your body weight in ounces. For example: a 100-lb. woman

should consume

50 ozs. of water/day. When one consumes coffee, tea, soda, etc.,

or if one does

strenuous exercise, the need could be higher. Distilled or

reverse osmosis water is

recommended. Tap water is usually very high in all kinds of

chemicals, especially

chlorine. Mineral water is not recommended either because we are

not meant to

consume minerals; they develop into stones.

It is best to keep meals simple, minus the sauces, gravies, etc. The stomach

has a hard time dealing with a large variety of foods at the same time. Best

to eat fruit alone and save rich sauces for the holidays and special

occasions.

I wish you the best of health!!!

Sue Massie

Natureâ€™s Garden of Health

8 Place

Red Bank, NJ 07701

(732) 933-4011

November 29, 2002

Sue,

Thanks for this great listing of what's good, what's to be avoided. So glad

to have you back on this list...your postings are genuinely helpful. We can

all benefit from your knowledge, gained the hard way along the way!

Thanks for sharing ~ wishing you the best!

Judie

November 29, 2002

Judie,

Thank you for your kind words. I have such empathy for you as we had

discussed the whole scenario with the chickenpox being the catalyst for the

onset of the Lyme with our children. I feel that there is always so much

that we can learn from each other. I appreciated your postings about the

gammaglobulin treatments. (I think you were the one who talked about it).

My 10 year old cousin in Texas may have to have those treatments because he

has an extremely low white count and his doctors were talking about it. He's

been sick for almost two years and they're not quite sure what's wrong with

him. They are waiting because the Sunrider, which they are finally seriously

trying, seems to be working. Within two weeks of taking the Nuplus, his

white count went up 20 points. I spoke with his dad tonight, and he thinks

he is more stable and is beginning to be able to have the home instructor

again and go outside a for short periods of time. His parents are finally

seeing a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel and are pretty amazed.

I always thought he had Lyme because he has been sick for as long a I can

remember, and no doctor in Texas could give him a diagnosis. Do you know of

anyone who has gotten a really low white count (like 150) from Lyme Disease.

Anyway, how are your children doing? Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Sue Rauch

November 29, 2002

SUE,

GREAT INFO! THANKS.

SUE RAUCH

November 30, 2002

Thanks, Sue, for sharing your excellent tips for healthy digestion. FOod is our

best source of healing, and our bodies cannot always process what we eat

properly. These tips can help us derive maximum benefit from what we eat.

Love ya,

Rose in Texas

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December 2, 2002

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<< do you sell ledum >>

No, i do not but some pharmacies do. My local one does carry it. If you need

help, plz let me know.